Vapor Brownies (ABV Cannaoil)

trouble ethyl · Oct 25, 2009

thanks for recipe and pictures.
i made a batch of theses, but they didn't turn out as well as I would hope.
i think it was either the low grade material or that I over vape my herb.

jeffp · Oct 25, 2009

for me the key was keeping an eye on the simmering canola oil, turning up the heat ever so slightly to maintain a slight "sizzle" sound and minor bubbles, throughout the hour.
prior to that i ran the material through the electric coffee grinder and i did not strain the oil at the end but rather just dumped it all into the brownie mix. the results were very successful and tasty.
keep at it - this is a great recipe, hope you're more successful next go round...

Don Vossol · Nov 3, 2009

Another update on the ABV food front, just made some last weekend in tandem with a friend we had 6 ounces of dirt to pitch for the cooking. We made, cookies, brownies, cake, and an entire meal made from ABV oil. I'm taking a good break from MJ for a while, the food we made mangled me too hard my tolerance is through the roof now.

jeffp · Nov 3, 2009

Wow...

Jordan45 · Nov 4, 2009

Hi I'm planning on taking my vaped bud and making brownies this Friday. I plan on using 5gs of vaped bud and mixing in about 2gs of fresh bud, northern light and some purp. Anyways, how potent do you think these brownies will be? Would more fresh bud be better?

And if I did the oil process tonight and saved it till Friday would it be fine? If so should I refrigerrate or just keep the jar of oil in my room.

thanks.

jeffp · Nov 4, 2009

i think there might be a slight degeneration of the oil but it's probably marginal.
the brownies should be very potent, especially topped off with a touch of fresh bud.
i think the key is watching the oil while it's simmering - turning up the heat slightly through the hour to maintain a slight sizzle and slight bubbling.
good luck..

Jordan45 · Nov 4, 2009

Thanks, and is there really any difference between straining the herb or just throwing it in? I know its gonna be a hassle id like to avoid.

jeffp · Nov 4, 2009

i strained out the oil once, then I decided it was a waste of time and a waste of thc, and I never did it again.
just throw the whole thing in the brownie mix. yes, there will probably be a slightly more pronounced herb flavor but it blends well with the brownie.
everyone who ate them this way told me that they tasted great and one batch got about ten people fully fully blasted.

in the old days when we didn't know what we were doing, we used to just dump weed into the brownie mix - no oil preparation, and no grinding.
what did we know? there wasn't any internet or fuckcombustion; just word of mouth.
however we got quite buzzed that way...

by the way i understand that liquid lecthin works very well as a transport agent. next time i do brownies i'm going to mix some in to the mix.

choding · Nov 5, 2009

SometimesY said:
Incidentally, firecrackers made with green and a 1/2 gram or so of kief work wonderfully, and taste pretty darn good, too. I just can't justiify cooking too much with $500/oz material. The duff is "free".

When someone buys weed, that person is usually purchasing the active ingredients of that herb.
Any cannabinoids that is left in the vaped herbs, still have a proportional value from its original purchase.
Therefore - duff is not free.

smoking / vaping / eating - different methods for transporting the active ingredients of the herb to our body.

Therefore cooking with the $500/oz material does not need justification, any more than vaping or smoking.

----------Changing subject------------

People say different methods will result in different "highs"

and even among the same general methods: joint / blunt / bong / pipe / bubbler
stem / whip / bag / water filter / conduction / convection
fat / alcohol
etc...

Depending on the person's priorities/preferences one will choose whatever method of utilizing the cannabis.

People of FC chose vaping, and I presume the priorities are health / taste / efficiency, in varying orders.

For me, my priorities are more skewed towards "getting my money's worth"
(in the field of efficiency I suppose).

After reading,

jeffp said:
i strained out the oil once, then I decided it was a waste of time and a waste of thc, and I never did it again.

I just wanted give jeffp a shout out for using all of the goodness in his materials.

/salute

jeffp · Nov 5, 2009

actually if straining is a waste of THC it has to be very marginal (the bud itself). i think you waste more THC by straining in the lost oil that's in the bud.
plus the straining is the only hassle in the entire process.
i just think dumping the whole thing in is the way to go; it's more better.

owin · Nov 7, 2009

jeffp said:
actually if straining is a waste of THC it has to be very marginal (the bud itself). i think you waste more THC by straining in the lost oil that's in the bud.
plus the straining is the only hassle in the entire process.
i just think dumping the whole thing in is the way to go; it's more better.

more better is good!

vape4health · Nov 8, 2009

You guys think it would be better to store your abv as just dry abv or would it store longer if it was in canna oil form . I keep my ABV in a zip lock and can see how it would be better in oil ( not as much oxygen to get at the abv )

SpiralArchitect · Nov 8, 2009

I got a fridge full of brownies. :brow:

They are too strong for me...

I have no clue how much ABV and stems/leafs/shake I tossed in there, but they are really potent. Spiral eats one and he is content just listening to the warbling in his mind. Content as in I don't want to do anything. Everything is a chore. My friends eat one and they go to sleep.

vape4health,
on this last batch, I had kept the abv in a dark shelf, in a tightly sealed ziplock for at least 5 months.... I made the oil and didn't actually make the brownies until about a week after!

It sat in my fridge covered up with saran wrap with the brownie box on top of it (to block fridge light). They turned out fine, but storing it in oil form for long periods of time might not be recommended. Mine kind of congealed and became a green viscous gelatin which was a bitch to mix into the brownies. :lol:

vape4health · Nov 8, 2009

Thanks spiral .

King Kong · Nov 15, 2009

i saw this video on youtube and was wondering if it actually works? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNEnwwDleHc

he just adds the vaped bud to the brownie mix, without simmering it in oil..

Lo · Nov 15, 2009

LMAO!! Brought back some memories!! Decades ago that was how we did it with reg weed, not abv. I didn't learn about making butter/oils until early 80's. It does work but am not sure that it uses the full potential.

Back in the stone age whilst in school someone who shall remain unamed fed such brownies to a teacher along with the rest of the class... Everyone thought that teacher was such fun that day

King Kong · Nov 19, 2009

so its worth a shot to try to make brownies just by adding the abv to the mix and adding extra oil? or would it be better to make into oil first?

Lo · Nov 19, 2009

Well it is a personal preference I think. If you want the most out of your abv I would say make the oil/butter and then make your brownies. You can then choose to strain or go old school and not strain the abv out at all.

I personally prefer the butter/oil - strain then cook with stuff method but... personal preference.

Since the ABV has already been cooked it also doesn't taste wonderful, let's say... Dumping direct in the brownie mix will compromise the taste a bit but... maybe stop you from od'ing on them

jeffp · Nov 19, 2009

i think you'll find that the "dumping direct in the brownie mix" (after simmering ABV with oil) system will not compromise the taste any more than straining out the dark ABV infused oil will - maybe just a slight tad more if at all. considering that this method is less work, less mess and definitely less waste, I would at least try it once to see if you like.

And yes, I highly recommend that you don't just toss bud in the brownie mix without any preparation: grind to a powder, then follow the original simmering recipe in this thread to the letter.
Make sure you monitor the simmering because you'll be increasing heat incrementally to maintain a light sizzle and light bubbling...this is important.

Also, before you start grinding, throw in some fresh, never been vaped bud for good measure...

King Kong · Nov 20, 2009

my vapor brownies are in the oven right now, i simmered the abv bud for about 45 mins and i used a cooking thermometer to keep it simmering between 350F to 375F with it going to 385F a few times..

choding · Nov 20, 2009

Dont know much about cooking with cannabis but,

simmering at vaporizing temperature sounds a bit risky.

King Kong · Nov 20, 2009

choding said:
Dont know much about cooking with cannabis but,

simmering at vaporizing temperature sounds a bit risky.

it was on Low 1 to 2, i never went past 2 on my stove

and it had a slight bubble at those temps to, just as the original post says..

and i just ate a half peice, 24g worth of abv bud into 1/4th cup canola oil(started with a little bit over 1/4th cup before the simmer), into 9 brownies, so about 2.5g in each..

taggs · Nov 26, 2009

I tried making firecrackers with ABV following this recipe:

INGREDIENTS:
Graham crackers
Peanut butter (organic is said to be best) (or nutella)
Butter Knife
An oven (I prefer large ovens over small.)
and last but not least, 5 grams of ground up ABV per person at least.

Instructions:Get your graham crackers, and break them into two square pieces per cracker. Now get your butter knife and dip it in your fatty substance. Slather a decent amount on one square, and then the other which will go ontop of the first square. Weigh your good out to 1 gram, per cracker. More if you want. Now put the weed on top of the buttered crackers. Repeat all steps until you've used up all 5 or more grams. Sandwitch them together now.! What you'll want to do now is wrap your firecrackers in aluminum, from bottom to top. This keeps any vapors from escaping the cracker, and instead keeping it in the cracker while being baked.

Preheat your oven to 305-10 degrees and once ready, put your crackers in for 22 minutes.
Afterwords, you should have some *tasty* crackers that have HIGH potential! I recommend eating them hot, quickly after being taken out of the oven. But it's not that bad eating a couple day old, cold ones either.

These do work! If anyone tries it, please tell us all how it went.

It didn't work AT ALL. Just a heads up for anyone out there wondering :-)

Qbit · Nov 26, 2009

taggs said:
It didn't work AT ALL. Just a heads up for anyone out there wondering :-)

Well it depends on how spent your ABV is. But, anyway, firecrackers aren't the most effective method for edibles, just a very quick and easy one.

jeffp · Nov 27, 2009

firecrackers aren't the way to go with spent vaporizables - they are great with fresh bud though.
try it again....
for spent bud save up and make brownies and throw in a bit of fresh for seeing god in colors.

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