Discontinued herbalAire

[OF]

OF, I'm wondering, have you ever tried to finish a load quickly? Perhaps you ALWAYS leave it idle for long times, and that is why you're not noticing the efficiency difference.

I'll say again, because of the large amount of conduction going on when this great convection vape is idling, it is a bad idea to leave product in there if you care about efficiency.

Yes I have. In fact that's exactly what I did, loaded a small enough load so I could 'wolf it down' in a few minutes (after letting it idle first) as the most accurate measure of THC content I can think of off hand. As best I can estimate first hit taste is all that suffers, THC content is the same. The medicinal effect is basically the same as with a similar load that didn't idle.

Where is it you think the THC escapes to and is never recovered?

I believe there's a very small loss (if any) involved, same as has been reported with stem vapes overnight. I believe I've done objective testing and confirmed that.

And no, as I said before, I don't habitually let it idle. It does happen sometimes, I noticed no subjective difference (the 'shoot, I forgot it again' thought is followed by 'this is still working') which is what lead to testing the effect. Several times now. I think the test is valid, and the results clear. I don't recommend the process, but don't fear it either.

OF

 

[ugobo]

I really love my HA! Must be the world's most versatile vaporizer!

I thought i would'nt use the whip delivery much but i find myself using it,along with the direct inhalation,more than often. But i just don't like the whip that HA includes in the kit. I would like to upgrade it to a MFLB whip style.

Does anyone have the diameter of the HA whip? I looked into vaporpedia's MFLB and HA pages without success...

 

[OF]

I really love my HA! Must be the world's most versatile vaporizer!

Does anyone have the diameter of the HA whip? I looked into vaporpedia's MFLB and HA pages without success...

Yup, it's a neat machine for sure. I also find it neat in that you can just hold it upside down with it's little nose in your GonG fitting on your WP (either size) and hit away.

Anyway, I use 1/4 ID Silicone tube over the stem. Much better. I also use half inch ID directly over the cap, draws easier, but IMO not enough better than the 1/4 to merit the trouble.

OF

 

[ugobo]

Yup, it's a neat machine for sure. I also find it neat in that you can just hold it upside down with it's little nose in your GonG fitting on your WP (either size) and hit away.

Anyway, I use 1/4 ID Silicone tube over the stem. Much better. I also use half inch ID directly over the cap, draws easier, but IMO not enough better than the 1/4 to merit the trouble.

OF

Many thanks for the info OF! The tubes that comes with the HA are so rigid and make them hard to work with. Need to get some silicone ones from Planet Vape right now.

Apart from the tubing cheapnis i have nothing else negative to say about the HA. I even got used to the mouthpiece and it's strange mounting joint! I think it's the one vape i would recommend to anyone new to the vaporization world and unsure about spending the well earned $$ for this kind of device. The price is so right (i got it for $199 at vaporizers.ca) that you just can't go wrong with the HA.

 

[OF]

Many thanks for the info OF!

Apart from the tubing cheapnis i have nothing else negative to say about the HA.

I think it's the one vape i would recommend to anyone new to the vaporization world and unsure about spending the well earned $$ for this kind of device.

You're welcome. I fully agree, it's the right size (I guess) but doesn't 'fit' the rest. Too small and stiff. Coupled with the light unit, it kept wanting to fall over on me because the tube pulled on it.

I agree. HA is on my 'short list' of recommended vapes for new guys. Sometimes, though, there's no place to plug it in making MFLB or VG a better idea. Or we're on the cheap, in which case a stem vape is the call?

And I also think HA is nice for guys with several others in that it does so many things fairly well. Who wants to keep a Volcano around for when the rare urge to blow a bag overtakes you? The other night I got the Jones for a couple WP hits, HA to the rescue! I'll have to do that again, soon.

OF

 

[CentiZen]

I've fallen in love with the Arizer stem method of using the herbalaire... massive, massive clouds. I got some teflon tape and it works perfect as a seal.

 

[notmyrealUSERname]

^ which style of stem are you using - straight, bent, turbo, 2 or 4 hole, gong?

Do you use a water pipe with your solo stem, or simply directly inhale from the stem? I am wondering if the Teflon tape is enough to keep the stem seated in he ha when it's upside down, or will the tape keep the glass cool enough so the you don't burn your finger while you hold the stem in during a bong hit.

 

[CentiZen]

I am using a normal straight stem. I have a glass on glass stem I use when I am running with a water pipe, but usually I just inhale right off of the stem because the flavor is so good. The tape will be good enough to keep it in the crucible, because you can put on a little more than needed and then push it in to get a good seal. The tape is only 79 cents a roll at a hardware store so it's not like it's in short supply.

 

[GratefulVapor]

I am using a normal straight stem. I have a glass on glass stem I use when I am running with a water pipe, but usually I just inhale right off of the stem because the flavor is so good. The tape will be good enough to keep it in the crucible, because you can put on a little more than needed and then push it in to get a good seal. The tape is only 79 cents a roll at a hardware store so it's not like it's in short supply.

Exactly what kind of tape are you using & where should I look for it? Home Depot perhaps. Also, do you need to 'wrap' the Stem+Crucible each time you pack a new load? I have wanted to try out this mod for a while(I already got the Arizer Stem), but am having trouble figuring out a way to use it with a GonG joint. Any suggestions? I want some of this tape you speak of!

 

[CentiZen]

The brand I am using is 3M PTFE Plumbing Tape. It goes by all sorts of names and brands like Thread Sealing tape, plumbers tape, PTFE tape, or illegitimately called Teflon tape even though it's not part of the teflon brand. It's not so much a tape as it a bandage type of material. Plumbers put it around the threads on pipes to ensure no leaks. Once it's on the stem it's good for a while. It might need additional tape after 12 or so sessions but that's just a little piece to make sure everything stays tight.

Most hardware store employees will know exactly what you are talking about if you say Teflon tape or plumbing tape. The rolls are color coded by their purpose, and most of them will work fine. Just stay away from the pink rolls, they have stuff in them we don't want to breathe.

 

[t-dub]

Drilled out my mouthpiece and replaced with Pyrex, thick walled, tubing a-la-Samir. Used Silcon tubing to go from the HA to the diffuser . . . of course I use the Cloud now but it worked well

 

[CentiZen]

Is the white balance off or is there juice in your bong?

 

[momatik]

So, im sitting here CHOKING on clouds of vapor - using my Airizer Solo's Glass on Glass adapter... IN MY HERBALAIRE. Like WTF, this thing is hitting hard - no cruicible, no teflon. Those who own these, I suggest you try this, then give your self a nice slap in the face! Hehe.

(So like the GOG adapter is sittin in my US tube 11 mm glass double tube, and I just set the herbalair over it like it was the solo.)

This post and the video definitely has me intrigued.

As I'm just about to purchase the GonG Solo adapter, I learned of the new PVHES stems in the planetvape thread that has a lot of FC members excited. The PVHES stems are not GonG yet but are in development. Apparently, it's worth waiting for if you're a Solo user, but my concern is if these changes will cause any unforeseen problems with this mod.

 

[CentiZen]

Hey momatik,

I've got an array of stems including the normal ones, GonG, and PVHES varieties. I prefer to use the normal straight stem because it does not get as hot as fast but the PVHES stems will work fine with this mod. There will be no improvement, but there won't be any problems either.

 

[momatik]

Thanks for the prompt reply CentiZen! In that case I'll just purchase the regular GonG adapter. Man, what would I do without this forum??

 

[CentiZen]

I don't know what you'd be doing; but I'd still be smoking... FC has changed my life.

 

[GratefulVapor]

I don't know what you'd be doing; but I'd still be smoking... FC has changed my life.

Amen to that!
Thanks for the help on clarifying about the tape. What's this about using the solo stem, NO crucible? It's so hard to keep up with all these different vaporizers, yet alone the mods! I think I ordered a GonG solo stem for the mod, but don't know where it is at the moment. This personal residence, MAJOR-move, has killed all of my organization; I've misplaced so many things.. I'll find them eventually though, I hope! What should spark my motivation to find my missing GonG solo stem, is my question(I don't own a solo). Am I holding the tools, without utilizing them?!?

 

[t-dub]

Is the white balance off or is there juice in your bong?

Its RezBlock

 

[SnidelyWhiplash]

So, here is another improvement - Get THESE!!!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005RTXSO4/ref=ox_ya_os_product
Holy Fuck batman! The coolest vapor and its not moist - the most comfortable I have ever felt - smoother than the cloud (with hydrotube, obviously nothing trumps a cloud on a real tube - though Herbalaire goes head to head with performance, cloud has its undenyably baddass vapor path). I literally had a panic attack after vaping with these. Hahahahaha. Herbailaire with GONG and stainless cubes in a US Tube. Thats my rec.

My buddy has a cloud ive been hitting side by side with this. I get bigger hits easier with this. The cloud will potentially burn if you try to match the performance on a herbalaire that is cranked up - which will NEVER burn and NEVER break. BUT - the cloud when set just right is one FINE piece of work. Until Clouds start selling without the tube I would go this route.

 

[notmyrealUSERname]

[quote="SnidelyWhiplash,

My buddy has a cloud ive been hitting side by side with this. I get bigger hits easier with this. The cloud will potentially burn if you try to match the performance on a herbalaire that is cranked up - which will NEVER burn and NEVER break. BUT - the cloud when set just right is one FINE piece of work. Until Clouds start selling without the tube I would go this route.[/quote]


Don't forget the way quicker heat up time for the ha 3min vs 10+ for the cloud. I can almost be finished a session with the ha before the cloud is even warmed up.

As far as I concerned if you want a cloud clone then you can't do any better than the ha. Intact if the upper temp limit in the ha was raised to 440f or so, it would be more practical in everyway - except the vapor from the vxc might taste just a little bit better (although there would be no way to quantify that).

 

[Nudelus]

Hey guys... I got my herbalaire just yesterday and i love it. It`s just an awesome nice and clear high. And yea the taste is delicous I love the baloon mode but I´m about to use the whip-mode when my new vip is arrived.
So it`s an awesome vape, my first, and i love it...
One last question... Schould I start vaping at 190° C or schould i start at a lower temp?

Greets,
Michael

mod note: We have a Herbalaire thread, threads merged.

 

[FOAMING MAD]

What i having been doing is 350 to start and go up from there with the whip.But now i use my bong with the whip and put the temp. to 400
Allso i hot glue a small glass ash tray on the bottom Just to add sum wieght.

 

[Egzoset]

Salutations,

To me whatever over-baked which happens to form fine particle deposits would start to make me concerned just like i'd be about smoke... Anyway, if i didn't grow the nuggets myself then chances are i'll plug a water toy without a second thought, in an attempt to avoid unwanted by-products. One may wonder if it's possible to produce smoke without combustion but even if it's not i'd much prefer to water-filter such deposits if i must attempt to consume them.

I don't like having synthetics anywhere my HA's oven neither, yet i do believe those materials are fine as long as the vapor doesn't carry excessive heat through them. Of course only glass can garantee my absolute peace of mind when used where that counts most but this doesn't mean it's got to be all glass along the full path... For example:

Once i've baked the teflon tape i'm satisfied that positive pressure in the oven helps to limit potential emissions in my lungs. It's no perfect solution but i've got to be practical, so... As a result i've taken the main teflon mouthpiece away in an attempt to ease my mind, while using PVC tubing to reduce the risk of breaking glass (win-win scenario).

The trade-off works for me. In any case i'd suggest the seal should be implemented as far as possible from intense heat, which is why i favour the use of a crucible (to contain that heat somewhat)... The crucible also promotes cleanliness in my HerbalAire oven by taking successive punishments in its place.



At the moment i reserve direct inhalation to herb which isn't crispy enough to crumble under my fingers when i try to crush it. A couple long/steady sips usually do the trick at 325 °C, 350 °C sometimes when too damp. The rest of my session proceeds at 365+ °C after i plugged a ballon which i can connect to my water toy once filled. Dried herb makes nice vapor because less heated air is required to vaporize it, for that reason i also cut pump speed by half. As a bonus my glass tool makes vapor turbulence even more visible if lighted at a suitable angle. This provides some clue to figure out when the herb has finished being depleted...



Ah! Really, i'm hoping for the day when HerbalAire will make their next major step. Perhaps they'll address similar matters by offering neat-looking accessories, eventually... Ah! Ah! But i'm a dreamer!

So... In the meantime lets "mod" guys!... The tremor we cause about it might be heard by the right people.

 

[ugobo]

Wow... Seeing all these pictures of the HA with water filtration pieces makes me want to dive in the glass world! Should be my next step.

 

[Slightly Medicated]

Wow... Seeing all these pictures of the HA with water filtration pieces makes me want to dive in the glass world! Should be my next step.

Yes it should... I love glass. Been a glass collector and enthusiast since 2005. I absolutely love using water filtration for my hits. I can't stand taking dry hits. I cough so hard and it makes my throat tingle like crazy.