VapCap Induction Heater for Desktop and in Car Use

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Getting to know my PSM today. This is the second day with it and I'm still above a half charge. I'll probably get 3-4 days on a charge if I've factored my usage correctly. Of course, weekends may kill it in two. I snuggled with it on the couch last night. :razz:

It is a bit more powerful than my caldron. When the caldron heats to click in 4 sec, the PSM does it in just over 2 sec.
However, I get a similar extraction and after 4 cycles the ABV is a uniform moderate brown. I might like it that way. If I want to fuss with it, I may search through the haystack here for the hack that raises the tip a tiny bit in the glass chamber. But I'm going au naturale for now.

I am also liking the Mega case. It might be fake leather but it is very rugged and it smells like leather, which is close enough for me. I grew up on corinthian leather, like what my dad's Chrysler New Yorker had. I see how the flap is off by a tiny hair. To get the snap to click you have to nudge the flap a bit. However, I do believe after a little use it will fit into place. We'll see if I keep it the case over time. Even if I don't it was well worth the money as a travel case.

Kiss my ass torches!
 

TommyDee

Vaporitor
Another great relationship made on FC :tup:

If you can hold the charge for a few days, notice the subtle change as the battery charge depletes. These things are quiet peaky at full charge but day 4 might have you waiting 15-20 seconds. Awareness will let you dial in a good charge interval.
 

Mono Loco

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Wowzer, 2-seconds for the PSM? That's not on a cold, fresh load, but rather on re-heats, right?
I dunno' ... seems "too" fast ... but, if the goods still taste nice and give a few cycles instead of getting all used up in one or two extravagant passes, I guess it's all good. I've only used a single torch (good results) and an SJK Dental Wax Heater (also good results, with some patience). I'm on Pipe's list.
 

Siebter

Less soul, more mind
If you can hold the charge for a few days, notice the subtle change as the battery charge depletes. These things are quiet peaky at full charge but day 4 might have you waiting 15-20 seconds. Awareness will let you dial in a good charge interval.

Hm, I haven't experienced that with neither the Portside Mini nor the Mag Heater. They keep clicking in a pretty narrow time frame even when the battery gets low.

Wowzer, 2-seconds for the PSM? That's not on a cold, fresh load, but rather on re-heats, right?
I dunno' ... seems "too" fast ... but, if the goods still taste nice and give a few cycles instead of getting all used up in one or two extravagant passes, I guess it's all good.

2 seconds even for a reheated DV seems *very* fast, I remember my PSM being more in the 6-8 seconds zone.
 

Mono Loco

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I guess the more powerful 8A power supply brick he's shipping out make a big difference. Oh, wait a minute ... that's the Caldron, D'oh!!!! Is the current battery more powerful than former ones?
 
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TommyDee

Vaporitor
Portables are bound to deal with their peak charge. These things are a lot hotter at 12.6v then they are as say 11 or 10. Eventually the battery pack will go through all these states, while reducing the output in the coil.

The best way to keep a PSM consistent is to leave it fully charged. I'm as guilty of doing that as any.
 
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Mono Loco

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You have a PSM? Do you get a 2-second click on a fresh charge? I don't know much about batts.

Like you, I went through a Flashaholic phase and remember folks on the CandlePower forum discussing regulated vs non-regulated drivers. From what I remember, regulated means that the voltage tries to remain constant until the very end. Unregulated means the power will decrease as the batteries discharge ... the batteries might last longer, but the performance will get weaker and weaker. Is this correct (or, do I have it backwards) ?
 
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TommyDee

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The ladder, yes. The IH just follows the charge. I have the home-builts but the performance is similar. I can get 4 seconds to the first click, 8 to the second, on little batteries. And I mean hot at 8! If I back off the cap in the coil, it goes even faster but remains cooler. I just finished a tightly wound coil and it is a stunning performer.
 
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BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
The 2 second click is not on the first cold start cycle, but after the tip is used and already hot. Still 2 seconds faster than my caldron. On half a charge right now and I get a click on a cold start at 4-5 seconds.

Does anyone remember around what pages you would find the info/hacks on raising the tip in the glass chamber? Again, I might do some experimenting as long as it doesn't permanently mess with the IH.
 
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Mono Loco

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I've seen the nice instructions for raising the heating coil by "Mr. C from Cali" for his Fluxer Deluxe, but I've not seen anything specific to the PSM. Both these I.H.s use a pressure switch in the bottom of the heating chamber, so raising the tip instead of the coil would require that the switch also be raised so that the tip could still reach it to engage it. I dunno' ???
 

endof3d

Cognitive Dissonance D4 ++++
The 2 second click is not on the first cold start cycle, but after the tip is used and already hot. Still 2 seconds faster than my caldron. On half a charge right now and I get a click on a cold start at 4-5 seconds.

Does anyone remember around what pages you would find the info/hacks on raising the tip in the glass chamber? Again, I might do some experimenting as long as it doesn't permanently mess with the IH.


I've seen the nice instructions for raising the heating coil by "Mr. C from Cali" for his Fluxer Deluxe, but I've not seen anything specific to the PSM. Both these I.H.s use a pressure switch in the bottom of the heating chamber, so raising the tip instead of the coil would require that the switch also be raised so that the tip could still reach it to engage it. I dunno' ???

I'm also familiar with Mr C's raising of the coil by 1mm to adjust heat range mod. Personably have not been able to vape non cannabis herbs in the PSM with out combusting them. Purchased high temperature food grade silicone sheet for this purpose but haven't got around to doing the mod yet. Others have used wood blanks cut from dowel, and @Pipes has even suggested using cork blanks that are used on cabinet doors to prevent impact.
 

TommyDee

Vaporitor
The 2 second click is not on the first cold start cycle, but after the tip is used and already hot. Still 2 seconds faster than my caldron. On half a charge right now and I get a click on a cold start at 4-5 seconds.

Does anyone remember around what pages you would find the info/hacks on raising the tip in the glass chamber? Again, I might do some experimenting as long as it doesn't permanently mess with the IH.

That really is hot at normal cell voltage. I can set mine to do that but I'd be heating at the clicker directly. If it were apples to apples, bringing the cap further out of the cup would click faster. This also means less heat. Are you getting the same draw from a 4-second PSM heating at this half charge state as you do from an equivalent 6-second Caldron heating? If that is the case, then yes, the PSM is hotter. If the PSM requires a little extra to get the same results, you want your cap to go deeper in the well (or coil closer to the top).

I do have a recollection of some pictures with glass beads.

Other subject out of the Bits n pieces thread grew this little HalfPint.

HalfPint Explained

 
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endof3d

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Copied this information from the forum months ago. This is what @Pipes had to say in a discussion on this topic:
  1. Pipes said:
    Insertion depth is your only control. Having the tip close to the end windings is the longest click but also can be too hot if inserted too far and may combust before the click. If the depth is not deep enough, a long count after the click is needed and heat distribution will not be as even with the tip been hotter. I found about 2-3 mil shy of the last winding is good.


  1. Thanks for the help. When you say "the end windings" I assume you mean the windings farthest from the insertion point?

    Correct.
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I had been looking for that, thanks. My JarHead takes between 5 and 8 seconds depending on how hot the tip already is. Not all my tip/caps perform identically so there is some variation even among tips of the same metal.
 

moede

New Member
does it work with a vaponic? im sure its answered in the thread somewhere, but its 140+ pages...

i see in the faq that it shouldnt be used with other materials.... could it work still?
 
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TommyDee

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Maybe if you put a piece of metal to heat in the tube. Been super-eager to try it @moede. It is certainly one of my aims to make that work but I don't have a Vaponic to test. Do you have an IH?

Oh, and welcome to the forum!
 
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