Discontinued Ghost MV1

martinstraka8282

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Disclaimer: My wife works for Ghost Vapes. Take that into consideration when reading my posts in this thread. I will attempt to present factual, impartial information on Ghost products, but won't blame you one bit if you think I am biased towards this company.



You're on the right track. This is where you'll start to play with your technique and find your personal sweet spot. I've played with the following to find mine:
- draw speed (I suggest you slow it down a little, and push the mouthpiece in a little. I get a little more potency from a little tighter resistance.)
- Temps, obviously
- your pack and grind. A consistent grind seems to be more important than the size, imo. I use a light tamp with a medium grind while my friend uses a fine grind with a tight pack, and we both like it.
- your overall routine. see below for where I've currently landed...



Mine are set to 410 and 419. I think 410 is normal, but 419 is a drop from 428. I finally decided to start dropping the temp little by little until I got the end results I want from my last hit, and ended up on 419.

When I went to the trade show last February, the Ghost team turned me on to a vape pattern that I still do today. Literally changed how I vape. The concept is to take advantage of the Ghost's on-demand, precision heating to capture all the terps, without destroying anything, to increase potency. I think it works, and it goes like this:

Level 1 - 338F - take two hits here to capture any terps that would have been destroyed if we started above 350F. It tastes so good!
Level 2 - Take one hit here. this is optional. you can go straight to level 3 if you want.
Level 3 - Hit it here until vapor stops. This usually takes me two to four hits, depending on the strain
Level 4 - You can take a hit here and bump it up to 5, or finish it off here...up to you and your style

I usually take one hit on Level 4 and then, where most would stop altogether, I open it up, dump out the crucible, stir it up and crush anything big, and load it back up. Bump it up to Level 5, which I have set to 419, and finish it off there.

That's my routine, and I love it. I get taste, potency, efficiency, and I can take as much time as I want doing it.
Interesting. I always thought vaping at the higher temps covered you for anything up to the temp you're vaping at, but you're saying that some components are actually burned off and wasted without being activated by starting too high?

On another note. Anyone try traditional hash busted up and sandwiched in between dry flower? I'm tempted to try but dont want to make a mess in my MV1. Could try it in my arizer q too i guess..

Kief in the concentrate pad worked, but it left residue unlike the shatter that just kind of disappeared.
 
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stickstones

Vapor concierge
Disclaimer: My wife works for Ghost Vapes. Take that into consideration when reading my posts in this thread. I will attempt to present factual, impartial information on Ghost products, but won't blame you one bit if you think I am biased towards this company.

Interesting. I always thought vaping at the higher temps covered you for anything up to the temp you're vaping at, but you're saying that some components are actually burned off and wasted without being activated by starting too high?

On another note. Anyone try traditional hash busted up and sandwiched in between dry flower? I'm tempted to try but dont want to make a mess in my MV1. Could try it in my arizer q too i guess..

Kief in the concentrate pad worked, but it left residue unlike the shatter that just kind of disappeared.

Kief sammiches are awesome! But you're smart to consider the mess. Start with just a sprinkle and go up from there.

Yes, there was data showing some terps get destroyed as low as 350F, so starting off lower than that gives them a chance to get involved in the soup.
 

Zow237

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Nice! Are you stirring to get avb that even?

I'm just on day 3 with a new MV1. Digging it but still feeling it out. Getting good results but upon opening my crucibles I'm definitely getting some hot spots and uneven avb.

(Guess I should note I'm grinding med, packing full/not tamped, fresh batteries, no leaks in heat sink)[/QUOT
Stirred once :)
 

Beggar'sBargain

New Member
Hi everyone, first post here.
I've been using vapourisers for just over a decade now. Started with the Vapezilla, moved to the Herbaliser (what a mistake that was!) and currently a Volcano digital.
As far as portables go, lots of Mighty use and I now have a Ghost MV1.
I am having huge problems with it, so have joined the forum to see if any of you have any tricks or tips, or indeed, the answer to my issues.
The unit has been back to Ghost already and the heat sink has been replaced. In order to get vapour, I have had to put the setting to 1 red LED, which is hotter than my Volcano setting.
Within 2 to 3 draws, the unit has overheated, rendering it useless for at least 5 minutes. I cannot empty a single crucible without the unit stopping functioning. When it does work, it's very impressive, but that is outweighed by the constant interruption of function.
I have done the manual configuration and that has made no difference. I would prefer to not send it back again, so I am hoping someone here may have some ideas about what I'm doing wrong.
I have checked the instructional videos and am using it as described therein, so am unsure as to the issue.
Any assistance is gratefully received!
 

stickstones

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Disclaimer: My wife works for Ghost Vapes. Take that into consideration when reading my posts in this thread. I will attempt to present factual, impartial information on Ghost products, but won't blame you one bit if you think I am biased towards this company.

@Beggar'sBargain - overheating happens when the heat generated can't escape the unit, and that's either caused by a heat bypass, or too slow of a draw. With a bypass, the heat sink is not correctly assembled and air leaks kill the vapor and keep the heat trapped in the unit. You can test for this with the 'heat sink test', where you draw on the mouthpiece with the bottom of the heat sink pressed against your palm, blocking the air flow. If you still get air flow, you have a bypass and will overheat. Also, if you insert the heat sink in place but don't push it in all the way, you can get a bypass and overheat. This used to happen on its own, but is hard to do accidentally now.

The more likely culprit, however, is probably a slow draw. I have a friend with a unit that would overheat after half a crucible, even on low temps. When he gave it to me I had it working without issue from the get-go. I then ran it through two heat cycles without drawing on it at all, and it immediately overheated. Later, I used it again with a very slow draw and got it to overheat after about four draws. Then I went back to my normal technique and never overheated again. So...I suggest kicking up your draw speed. Try to get a full lung-full by the time the MV1 times out. The easiest way to do this is to pull the mouthpiece out further. Once it gets a little wobbly it really opens up and is easy to draw faster on.
 

stickstones

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Disclaimer: My wife works for Ghost Vapes. Take that into consideration when reading my posts in this thread. I will attempt to present factual, impartial information on Ghost products, but won't blame you one bit if you think I am biased towards this company.

Many thanks @stickstones! Exactly the sort of thing I was hoping for.
Well, in the name of science then, I'd better get sucking on it.
I'll try a much firmer draw and report back with findings. I know there's a cracking bit of kit there, it's just a case of getting it going properly.

Great! Let us know how it goes so we can adjust the advice where necessary.

btw, shutting down for overheating is a good thing. That means the protection circuitry is working and keeping you safe. It's rare, but I've seen parts of vapes melt, catch fire, or turn to dust. When it happens to you (it did to me once) it's scary shit! I'll take a design that keeps me safe over the alternative any day.
 

AJS

Calm Consistency
A friend lent me his Ghost mv-1 to try. Enjoying it so far fat clouds are easy to achieve. Took 1 or 2 bowls to understand it, but I treat it like the Square. Fine grind, medium tamp so it's all nice and together, and a firm draw. Fat clouds on Amber 2 and Amber 3. Not sure if I'm allowed to go to red 1 or red 2, the instructions make it confusing. They say Red 3 is concentrates, but they say flower is only up to Amber 3. Red 1 and 2 must be limbo ;)
 

stickstones

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Disclaimer: My wife works for Ghost Vapes. Take that into consideration when reading my posts in this thread. I will attempt to present factual, impartial information on Ghost products, but won't blame you one bit if you think I am biased towards this company.

@AJS - I use Red 1 and 2 to finish it off. The temps are 410 and 428F, and are the two settings adjustable with the app.
 

Lawrence_ish

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Level 1 - 338F - take two hits here to capture any terps that would have been destroyed if we started above 350F. It tastes so good!
Level 2 - Take one hit here. this is optional. you can go straight to level 3 if you want.
Level 3 - Hit it here until vapor stops. This usually takes me two to four hits, depending on the strain
Level 4 - You can take a hit here and bump it up to 5, or finish it off here...up to you and your style

After moderate testing I can largely confirm this is excellent advice :)
 

Summer

Long Island, NY
@AJS, I really am interested in your impressions. You see, I know that I agree with you in your choice of vapes as far as flavor is concerned, but the 2 humungous microdosing hits you take in your vids would kill my lungs for an entire day. Rather I take the equivalent of 1-1/2 of your hits & divide them into 6 hits. That's why I like a medium - medium coarse grind, barely tamped down, because unlike your preferential "fine grind, medium tamp so it's all nice and together, and a firm draw" it would produce too much vapor for me if I didn't shorten my draw & that's not my vaping style. I want a nice, easy 10 -15 sec. draw with moderate vapor. @Brewervapesalot, I think that any vapes AJ likes would be right up your alley as far as vapor potency & flavor are concerned. :nod:

I wanted to let you guys know that I purchased puffitup's 10/14/18mm wpa & it's great.

https://www.puffitup.com/Ghost-MV1-Universal-Adapter-p/qctq.gstmv1-wpa_uni.htm

https://www.sneakypetestore.com/col...n-1-water-pipe-adapter?variant=12242484658257

I went with piu because of the $18 price & got an add'l 15% & free ship while SP's is $23 + ship. Since I didn't know if I even wanted to use the Ghost through water, I wanted to go cheapo.

The insertion stem is designed exactly like the Ghost stem & has those same ridges on both sides of the bottom of the stem, the adaptor is mounted on top.

I like it, it works really well. And I'm surprised that I like the Ghost thru water. Figured the vapor of this particular vape wouldn't be strong enough through water, but it surely is. I did notice that after two crucibles the front got super hot so next time I'm gonna see about increasing my draw speed to keep it cooler if possible.

If I can, I'll post some pics tom.

Here's a ghost smilie for you. :) .....
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Brewervapesalot

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@Summer I'm pretty much all in on a MV2. Excited about it because Ghost is reading this thread and I'm sure their next model will really rock.

No rush, though. Happy with my present vapes, and thinking my next $400 vape is gunna be worth $400.... and just has to be markedly better than what I got.
 

Summer

Long Island, NY
I want to mention these water pieces. SneakyPete was using this one in a IG stream with PIU 2 days ago:

https://www.sneakypetestore.com/col...ghost-mv1-bubble-straw?variant=12468286816337

And this is the one PIU used yesterday:

https://www.puffitup.com/Sipper-Bubbler-Mouthpiece-p/qctq.bubb-curvtop.htm

& Pete also has one listed:

https://www.sneakypetestore.com/col...ete-scepter-water-tool?variant=12380351070289 *Videos at bottom.

Zakk did a stream yesterday using this all thoughout & it really is a nice piece. Wanted to crop it & hide his face & post here for you go to see, but I don't know how. I have to get a program where I can capture & crop a few seconds of a video. Anyone know a decent free one?

But all said, I would be too scared to risk ruining my ghost by using water in an upright position with the Ghost underneath. :o But I do like the 2nd mp.


ghostvapesofficial;80185 said:
Hi Chandler They are an authorised re-seller but an obvious typo on their site which should read 5 years on the warranty when registered.

I want to bring to everyone's attention that the warranty is 5 years only if registered through the app, otherwise it's only 2 years if registered through the website without going through the app.

I was having trouble with the Android app in their 1st version so I asked if they could register my vapes for me on their end, but they said they didn't have that capability. Should have been asked cause I don't know if lack of capability was because it is the 5 year vs. the 2 year length through the app or if they also can't register the 2 year on their end which would seem odd not to have the latter capability.
 
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Brewervapesalot

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@stickstones - hadn't considered the benefits of an overheating shut down, you raise a valid point.
A harder draw has given me more success with my Ghost. Still not entirely sure I'm using it absolutely correctly, but I have at least managed to empty a crucible without shut-down.
Will just have to keep trying to perfect the technique!

Keep trying to get it to work for you. But if you try everything suggested and it still frustrates you, just open a warranty ticket. There are bad units out there; I had a few. If the MV1 is not working it can be a real tease and downer of a night, or nights. Save your sanity, and see what Ghost says, get it fixed, and/or get a working unit if you get to that point.

Ghost customer service is great.
 

LabPong

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I like it, it works really well. And I'm surprised that I like the Ghost thru water. Figured the vapor of this particular vape wouldn't be strong enough through water, but it surely is. I did notice that after two crucibles the front got super hot so next time I'm gonna see about increasing my draw speed to keep it cooler if possible.

Summer....I new the MV1 would do well with water when I first tried it way back when we started out with it.... But I also knew it would be a problem using the vape upside down with a wpa. The problem is that you are trapping in too much heat around the heater and oven bottom. There is no place for it to vent unless you are drawing on it.

Probably the best thing you can do if you use the MV1 like this with wpa...is to not take draws so close to each other, or turn the vape upright just after you take the draw....then take a non heated draw just after to cool off the heater before taking another draw with it upside down.

As for you can wait for the 2nd iteration of the MV1.....no way...bring it now! haaaa Well...bring it as long as it does not have the silicone stuff.....only issue for me not to use one after using it for 4+ months last year.



Oh...that bubble stem looks nicer to use...though cleaning often is it's only issue for some. The water in it is such a small amount and gets dirty quick....with my argo maybe after 6-8 sessions I clean and change out the water. Those cool bubble stems have made my Argo my most used vape right now.

I am also surprised you do not have an arizer if you like tasty smooth small to medium draws. The Argo and one of the bubble stems would be good for you....or an Air2 with wpa as well....that is my 2nd go to with arizers.
 

Ripstar

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I got my Ghost and used it once. It was a truly amazing experience. After the first use however, the device seems to not work properly. The device heats up(I can feel the warmth) but as I draw, no vapor. When I check the abv there is no brown anywhere. I did stickstones heating suggestions, tried higher settings(not quite to concentrate level), tried to draw harder for longer....nothing. It's strange feeling the device being warm but not being able to get vapor. Any suggestions are appreciated!

Modnote: Back to back posts merged

ok, I took the heat sink out then, put back in and replaced the crucible load, now, works perfectly fine again.:tup::rockon:maybe the heat sink or load.
 
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Zow237

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@Summer i registered on the website and it said I had the 5 year
I got my Ghost and used it once. It was a truly amazing experience. After the first use however, the device seems to not work properly. The device heats up(I can feel the warmth) but as I draw, no vapor. When I check the abv there is no brown anywhere. I did stickstones heating suggestions, tried higher settings(not quite to concentrate level), tried to draw harder for longer....nothing. It's strange feeling the device being warm but not being able to get vapor. Any suggestions are appreciated!
check your crucible screens. They are probably clogged. I use a brush after each crucible and check the heat sink to make sure it’s not clogged which it prolly shouldn’t when it was used once
 

Ripstar

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check your crucible screens. They are probably clogged. I use a brush after each crucible and check the heat sink to make sure it’s not clogged which it prolly shouldn’t when it was used once[/USER]
I was wondering this as well. Does it need to be completely spotless everytime?
 
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Summer

Long Island, NY
@Summer i registered on the website and it said I had the 5 year

Make sure you get your email confirmation & save it. I registered my vapes through the app, but the app defaulted to 0 vapes registered??? Anyway, don't care, as I have my confirmation emails. And am even going to forward the confirmations to a 2nd email account.


Hold the screen up to a light & if it's blocked with terps you'll see the holes clogged. Then just use a dry toothbrush to clear them between crucible loads. If you're done vaping just throw them in iso for a couple of minutes & brush them w/ a toothbrush.

BTW,

https://www.instagram.com/p/BqMcqF1Dvt3/
 
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