Discontinued The Grasshopper

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I think you understand that the buyer can choose exactly which one he/she wants, and they are each pictured with their serial numbers.
That raises an interesting question. There's a very wide range of s/n's shown for sale at this time, from 11,000 on down to like, 4,000. Are these lower numbered units using re-manufactured back ends?

And that is exactly what I wondered when I knew they were over 15xxx and they sent me a "brand new" unit that read 10xxx. Good observation.

I don't come here to be negative, but to remind the heavy user to reconsider. It's not really a risky buy if you base it off your vaping habits...

If you vape 3 times per week, 2 chambers per, it would be half what I put this thing through in a day. At that rate you would need an RMA roughly every 40 weeks. For me, 3.

I cannot justify that purchase and I hope others will use that info as a guideline whether or not the hopper is going to work out for them.

 

[vapviking]

And that is exactly what I wondered when I knew they were over 15xxx and they sent me a "brand new" unit that read 10xxx. Good observation.

I don't come here to be negative, but to remind the heavy user to reconsider. It's not really a risky buy if you base it off your vaping habits...

If you vape 3 times per week, 2 chambers per, it would be half what I put this thing through in a day. At that rate you would need an RMA roughly every 40 weeks. For me, 3.

I cannot justify that purchase and I hope others will use that info as a guideline whether or not the hopper is going to work out for them.

My vaping has gone to zero for a while now, but
My use had led to multiple repairs, all of which were relatively painless. With low cost postage, quick turnarounds and backup vapes (extra Hopper included), I have not been annoyed by the process. I still hold hope that one day they'll get the thing right!
As an early buyer, my price on a SS was $135 US (Ti was $150), so my real (and emotional) investment hasn't felt too devastating! Another month and I will have had them for a year!

So, I agree with you about the risks of ownership, and I emphasize that it comes down to whether the process is tolerable to the individual. For instance, I would not generally recommend this vape to international customers, unless of course they follow @MoltenTiger and are in similar position!

I'm not comfortable with the idea that parts might be re-purposed into units sold as 'new', like the s/n's may be showing us. If that's the case, then I'd much rather see a term like 're-manufactured' applied, and corresponding price reduction.

 

[Hogni]

Perhaps this special sale price IS an corresponding price reduction?

 

[almost there]

Gave my hopper an iso dip on Wednesday because I couldn't take it's weak output anymore. I was very nervous about it but at worst I'll just have to get a 3rd RMA which by this point is a familiar routine. Filled a little pill vial with 99% iso and gave the hopper a dip for an hour. The oven came out super clean when everything dried and I waited a few hours and gave it a go. There was no improvement and I didn't expect any, that was the end of that, at least I know the iso bath won't short it.

Usually the hopper has no place in my rotation at home, too weak and the flavor isn't great but I just grabbed it on a whim yesterday. I start it off on T3 always to give it a warm up. Immediately I noticed a full heat wave vs the usual wispy warmth that comes out. Took 2 very satisfying pulls and dialed it to 5 and it was like the vapor floodgate finally opened. I could tell my hopper is now combustion capable which is fine by me. I keep it at T4 now and I can get the nice brown abv like if it came out of a vapcap or SB. I have no idea what happened when I gave the hopper an iso dip because it changed how it works completely. It now works better than it did when I bought it, does anyone have a similar experience? I know it's not in my head because I'm someone that pays very close attention to very minute details when it comes to my vapes.

 

[Hogni]

Interesting! What do you mean with "gave the hopper a dip for an hour" I think you don't mean the whole thing? Up to what mark did you sink the hopper?

 

[almost there]

I filled the iso up to almost where the lights are. Left it soaking for an hour and then I let it air dry oven facing down. My hopper was always running cool so I don't know why it's running so hot now after the soak. Hope it keeps like this for a few weeks before it crashes. At T5 if I didn't click off as soon as I felt that heat it would have combusted for sure.

 

[Hotelone]

I'm not comfortable with the idea that parts might be re-purposed into units sold as 'new', like the s/n's may be showing us. If that's the case, then I'd much rather see a term like 're-manufactured' applied, and corresponding price reduction.

Could it just be that the HT Colored Ti's sell more slowly that the other units, thus the lower serial numbers?

 

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A heating GH matches my car's interior.

The only really important part of this picture is that Pantera is on the radio.

My vaping has gone to zero for a while now, but
My use had led to multiple repairs, all of which were relatively painless. With low cost postage, quick turnarounds and backup vapes (extra Hopper included), I have not been annoyed by the process. I still hold hope that one day they'll get the thing right!
As an early buyer, my price on a SS was $135 US (Ti was $150), so my real (and emotional) investment hasn't felt too devastating! Another month and I will have had them for a year!

So, I agree with you about the risks of ownership, and I emphasize that it comes down to whether the process is tolerable to the individual. For instance, I would not generally recommend this vape to international customers, unless of course they follow @MoltenTiger and are in similar position!

I'm not comfortable with the idea that parts might be re-purposed into units sold as 'new', like the s/n's may be showing us. If that's the case, then I'd much rather see a term like 're-manufactured' applied, and corresponding price reduction.

What you describe as painless I would say is unbearable. I could not justify having a working unit for 3 weeks at a time and sending it in for 1 to 2 weeks for repair. Yes, the cost was low. But even if they got it back to me in one week, I would only have a working unit 75% of the time. And of that 75%, it probably doesn't even work optimally for that entire 75%. I don't see how anybody can get behind that.

 

[vapviking]

Could it just be that the HT Colored Ti's sell more slowly that the other units, thus the lower serial numbers?

They make the HT model in very small batches and those batches sometimes have sold out - unavailable until more are produced. So I don't think they have unsold units languishing on the shelves for months. The HT and TI model serial numbers all begin with "GT......"
My Ti model is in the GT0041XX range, and it was made 11 months ago. There are HT units for sale now in that 4XXX range. I suppose it is possible that the production numbers are random, not sequentiial, but this has not our perception.

 

[ktmstick]

Did this very thing earlier in the week. Mine was a poor preformer also then eventually was going straight to blue. It was heating to a certain extent but not enough. I iso soaked up to the holes for a couple of hours then blew it out quite aggressively with a 125 psi airline. I'm attributing it to a build up of particles /dust on the temp sensor, so it thinks it's hotter than it actually is. I now have a case for mine. There is just such a small space between intake - heater - herb. The intake is also very open so easy for debris to get inside. Look at the intake on a S&B machine. You can barely see it!

My hopper was going that way before it went straight to blue. Getting hotter to handle but poorer performance. Once I got the straight to blue I thought sod it, try iso soak up to holes then a good blow out. Solved the straight to blue and hopper working better than ever. I'm not suggesting you go my route but may be time for full service.

I filled the iso up to almost where the lights are. Left it soaking for an hour and then I let it air dry oven facing down. My hopper was always running cool so I don't know why it's running so hot now after the soak. Hope it keeps like this for a few weeks before it crashes. At T5 if I didn't click off as soon as I felt that heat it would have combusted for sure.

 

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Gorilla Glue #4 in the Grasshopper , listening to "Off The Top" freestyles on Youtube .Drinking this amazing juicy IPA from Heist Brewing Citraquench'l.

 

[GreenHopper]

Did this very thing earlier in the week. Mine was a poor preformer also then eventually was going straight to blue. It was heating to a certain extent but not enough. I iso soaked up to the holes for a couple of hours then blew it out quite aggressively with a 125 psi airline. I'm attributing it to a build up of particles /dust on the temp sensor, so it thinks it's hotter than it actually is. I now have a case for mine. There is just such a small space between intake - heater - herb. The intake is also very open so easy for debris to get inside. Look at the intake on a S&B machine. You can barely see it!

So did your cleaning procedure work?

Is the performance back to what you were expecting?

 

[ktmstick]

So did your cleaning procedure work?

Is the performance back to what you were expecting?

Yes, straight to blue no longer happening and performance is better than it was previously.

 

[slcbdco]

I'm not comfortable with the idea that parts might be re-purposed into units sold as 'new', like the s/n's may be showing us.

It's not showing us that because the serial numbers have never been sequential.

I suppose it is possible that the production numbers are random, not sequentiial,

It's almost possible, the serial numbers are not random or sequential, and by design they are not sequential, it's like Haydn symphonies, the number gives you "about" but not exactly the order, only Hopper laps and poppa Haydn know the exact order, but they do.

 

[almost there]

Yes, straight to blue no longer happening and performance is better than it was previously.

In your case I can understand how everything went back to normal but I just can't figure out why mine now reaches temperatures that it has never been capable of before. I really don't believe this is all there was to it to get my hopper working correctly, in any case I'm happy so all is good

 

[GreenHopper]

In your case I can understand how everything went back to normal but I just can't figure out why mine now reaches temperatures that it has never been capable of before. I really don't believe this is all there was to it to get my hopper working correctly, in any case I'm happy so all is good

Maybe your device's heat sensor had some manufacturing residue on it when it was calibrated at the factory?

 

[grokit]

Maybe the third time will be a charm, I sure hope so. If you're following along my hopper has never worked right since the initial repair, that was a ~couple years ago I held onto it and just got it back for the 3rd time this go-round. I am determined to have a working hopper again. It seems to be working better than ever, great extraction @3.5 on the dial I'm gonna leave it there and turn it off after every session, I won't be leaning on it as a daily driver this is the coolest vaporizer ever when it's working fingers crossed again.

 

[mmafighterthe25]

What you guys think Is better. The fury vaporizer or grasshopper. I have grasshopper for like two weeks til my wife tossed that shit out.

 

[Bomb33]

Just got my gh in hand. I'm a mighty user and I must say I'm blown away. Hands down this thing is a rocket in my pocket. Just wish I had the goods from @Ratchett. But ya I'm going to put my mighty away for a lil bit. Can't believe what I've just discovered lmao

 

[Hjalmark]

Maybe the third time will be a charm, I sure hope so. If you're following along my hopper has never worked right since the initial repair, that was a ~couple years ago I held onto it and just got it back for the 3rd time this go-round. I am determined to have a working hopper again. It seems to be working better than ever, great extraction @3.5 on the dial I'm gonna leave it there and turn it off after every session, I won't be leaning on it as a daily driver this is the coolest vaporizer ever when it's working fingers crossed again.

Such an nice device but sadly it's finicky

 

[vapviking]

It's not showing us that because the serial numbers have never been sequential.


It's almost possible, the serial numbers are not random or sequential, and by design they are not sequential, it's like Haydn symphonies, the number gives you "about" but not exactly the order, only Hopper laps and poppa Haydn know the exact order, but they do.

I understand, but maybe you could be more specific about whether or not, as policy, HL may re-purpose parts from 'used' units into components of new ones?
I would not be opposed to the practice if it were disclosed up front.

Just got my gh in hand. I'm a mighty user and I must say I'm blown away. Hands down this thing is a rocket in my pocket. Just wish I had the goods from @Ratchett. But ya I'm going to put my mighty away for a lil bit. Can't believe what I've just discovered lmao

Hey, what did I tell ya?
Glad you're happy with your new friend. Mighty will now last even longer!

 

[slcbdco]

I understand, but maybe you could be more specific about whether or not, as policy, HL may re-purpose parts from 'used' units into components of new ones?
I would not be opposed to the practice if it were disclosed up front.

They don't do that. Not too mention the components are constantly updated. If you send one in for a repair if the component that failed is updated, the replacement component is the new updated version, not the same version you had before. It's rather the opposite of repurposing old parts in fact.

I did suggest to them that they should sell refurbished units at a discounted price and they didn't want to do that. They think like a software company in the sense that if there's is 2.new version they want to push out that update and increase adoption.


Speaking of (not speaking for, I have no ideas of their plans on this) wouldn't it be cool if hopper 2.0 could download repairs over software ... #sundaymorning #birdhead

 

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Gorilla Glue #4 in the Grasshopper , listening to "Off The Top" freestyles on Youtube .Drinking this amazing juicy IPA from Heist Brewing Citraquench'l.

Hmmmmm. I'm going to have to raise you with a pound of Sonoma Glue and put you all in.

 

[kushkush]

Can I ask all of you guys a small favor? Take your mouthpiece and use it to bridge the gap between the fire button and the top edge of the back end. On my unit(s), this turns the red lights on and creates a handful of audible clicks.

I haven't noticed this before and am wondering if this is abnormal. This could easily happen in a pocket with a set of keys, or even a dime.

Every time I touch the metal mouthpiece to the rear of the unit, the red lights flash once and then are off. If I keep doing this, the red lights just keep flashing once, but I don't hear any clicks. And, just take your keys out and try touching the rear of the gh...see what happens.

I got real discouraged with my Grasshopper because it took exactly one year to the day to receive it after I ordered it...that put a real damper on things. Kept writing to them every 2 or 3 months and they kept saying it'd ship very soon, then it wouldn't. So long story short, I'm not using it much and am looking toward the Dynavap now...looks almost too good to be true.

 

[MoltenTiger]

Every time I touch the metal mouthpiece to the rear of the unit, the red lights flash once and then are off. If I keep doing this, the red lights just keep flashing once, but I don't hear any clicks. And, just take your keys out and try touching the rear of the gh...see what happens.

I got real discouraged with my Grasshopper because it took exactly one year to the day to receive it after I ordered it...that put a real damper on things. Kept writing to them every 2 or 3 months and they kept saying it'd ship very soon, then it wouldn't. So long story short, I'm not using it much and am looking toward the Dynavap now...looks almost too good to be true.

Dynavap is an awesome company, but the GH is the superior product from what I've been told. I'll find out for myself soon enough as I have one on its way to me.

But I gotta drop a quick line. I've been loving the GH since I've got back home. That first session after 4 days off was insanely great, and it's the icing on the cake of my everyday generally. I've been travelling around and have been doing huge assembly days down in Hobart, having a hopper to return to after makes it that much easier