CuckFumbustion

Lo and Behold! The transformative power of Vapor.
I put a pen clip on my 'M'.

It also has been better behaved without the third ring on it. I can get the tip and body in further without the push back. Plus I have the ear clip on it for reassurance.

Put an ordinary pen clip on it. Which doubles has a temporary cap holder or some other type of holder. :hmm: Oh and I can lanyard my 'M' Luke. Any measure that allows for less fumbling and loss of small parts.

I don't ever want to run my fingers through the grass locating a cap again.:o Glad it was isolated, mostly flat rock and not windy. And I'm a little more experienced, I'm hoping.

Have the corner of the cap tucked under the clip as a way of anchoring it.

It's a SS sparkplug. :haw: Just need to have a portable lightweight Med-kit for the 'M', in case I have a combustion bummer and quickly correct things.

As far as the caps and questions as to how long they last. I would like to hear more feedback and personal anecdotes. Popping caps back into shape. They have made changes in design. FWIW. :peace:
 

xlr8shun

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phattpiggie

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@stardustsailor sorry but that all had me laughing, hard, you sound like good fun to be around.
What made it especially funny at the time was I read it and then had an angle grinder get away from me a couple of times with the trigger stuck.
1mm cutting disc spinning it's backside off. Jumping all over the floor.
It eventually cut thru it's own power cord which was probably for the best. Never liked the trigger so I'll fit an inline switch in a new piece of cord.

Really like the look of your nono, great idea.

Never had any problems to date with my caps, 3-5 cycles per load, 5-6+ loads a day. Nearly every day for over a year.

@kellya86 the only thing I'd be worried about is if you hammer it the wood will get a bit of reclaim on it, probably not much but still a enough to smell. A quick wipe with a Iso dampened Q tip.
Myself I'd get a full metal jacket but I'm overly cautious.
Rolling paper mod I see there.

@xlr8shun this is the pill case I've been using, the end where the ring fits is a nice tamping tool, a little big for the new tips as it doesn't fit past the first screen groove.
Ground goods in the side with the plug and magnets, which aren't very strong with the cap but stick to everything else. I used to put abv in the other side but I've been looking for another container as I throw all my abv.
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Sketch420

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Fuckin' wood,then !
:rofl:
Oh,so many options and alternatives !
And it's just only one of many possible materials .
Wood .

http://www.bellforestproducts.com/exotic-wood/

( my own personal choices that I would love to have as Nonavong stems :

Brown Mallee Burl
: Elegant ,lightweight and strong like steel !
Camatillo : Pure red awesomeness and super hard !
Grey box burl : Amazing grain patterns !
Kingwood : All time classic !
Red coolibah burl : Trully an extraordinary burl !
Snakewood : Most sexy wood ever !

Note: All the wood species that have specific gravity > 1 ,
are quite heavy.They tend to sink when thrown to water .

Wow thanks for the website. And I totally agree snakewood is one of the most beautiful woods I've ever seen. Would love to get a stem out of that! Good look
 

Sketch420

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@Sketch420 I've been looking at Snakewood for a while, some woods lose a lot of the detail when turned down, not Snakewood it looks great.
Image lifted from the net, unfortunately not all blanks are created equal.
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Wow ya that looks amazing. The grain on this wood is unreal. Lmk if you get any of that kind of wood, I would definitely be down for a stem of this. The database says it is a irritant for skin and respiratory system, but it's rarely affects those.
 

Derrrpp

For the world is hollow and I have touched the sky
Awesome vape! Going to get in trouble with the mrs when she finds out i just got this one and now i want the woody. Hmmmm i need to form a plan. Happy vaping!
Another person sees the light! :D

Seriously though, glad you're getting along with your new vape. It will treat you well if you're good to it. Respect the click! And don't be afraid to try new techniques, I'm around a year into my VapCap journey (well over a year if you count testing my buddy's OG VapCap from the original IGG campaign) and I'm still finding new ways to 'Cap. It really is a versatile little tool! :nod:

Oh, and just wait. The VAS only gets worse. Soon you'll want a @phattpiggie stem, a @Winegums VonG, an induction heater from @Pipes... That's where I'm at right now. Just gotta figure out which one to get first. Probably the induction heater... :science:

My poor bank account... :uhoh:

Cheers! :spliff:

:peace:
 
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DirtyD

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So the M is apparently good for what I call ' Frankensteining' or putting parts of different vapes together into a chimera-vape. Never intended by original makers but a piece from that and one from this- you can come up with a Nietzsche-Super man vape. Yes you! M tip and tube assembly( no cap) is perfect air tight fit as longer MP crammed down into ceramic oven of my Pulsar APX. Becomes the new more comfortable MP. No click involved, APX oven with M stuck in it = worlds smallest 'log vape'. One can load APX oven and put M minus cap in as MP, or load M tip and insert into APX oven just give it xtra heat sink time. Hope this post is somewhat clear, super high from above M'ethods. I bet there's cheap portable electric batt vapes besides pulsar apx that have similar bowl size and provide further options... More testing to follow. Cheers to all. D.
 

Archaicrevival

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Hi,I'd like to briefly share my story with the Vapcap. It profoundly changed my life...Recently I was put into a state psychiatric center for Suicidal Ideation (I had been struggling with depression and panic attacks for years along with the demon spirits, alcohol.) So I did what any drunk suicidal person that wanted some hope would do, and went to my local outreach center. Well that has turned out to be a HUGE changing point in my life, long story somewhat short, they court ordered me to a state psychiatric center, inside they had me take powerful medication; Haldol, Phenobarbitol, and Modifinil For 7 days. (They have me wrongly diagnosed as Schizophrenic and Psychotic at the Local outreach center)...Anyways, Despite me saying "I think the patients are staff members." During my final interview with the Doctor (Which I now recognize and distinguish as a subthreshold delusion caused by Haldol and perhaps Modifinil, I was discharged at 11:00 P.M. Where I was taxied to a one room bus station, Alone I waited for 2 1/2 hours with nothing but a camera watching me, I began to have paranoid dellusional thoughts that I tried to ignore. As I got on the bus I began to think the Bus station drivers worked for the Hospital, I got home around 4:30 AM. Later that day I went and got my prescriptions filled, All except for Modifinil (which wasn't covered by my insurnece) And I had filled a bottle of Cybalta and took that along with Haldol.

I walked home from the pharmacy that afternoon and decided to go out back to use the Vapcap, I had many interviews with the "Doctor" I stated "I am an inveterate cannabis use, are you sure it's safe to mix with these medications?" He replied many times, "Should be no problem." ....well after 2-3 hits off the vapcap, I had a full blown 3 1/2 day psychosis, the peak of which lasted for about 1 1/2 hours, I had full hallucinations and dellusions consisting of thinking people could read my mind, rays of light coming out of two social workers heads.

I changed in 10 minutes from being an adult to being a little child playing with a bug on a piece of paper, then to histracilly laughing...then for the remainder of the 3 days I was convinced that 3 seperate hospitals I had been in were all a Government mind control research program, keeping track of me with security cameras, about day 3-4 I began to return to reality. Now that I am back to normal, since I broke the court order refusing to take medication, the outreach center is taking me to court on Tuesday at 9AM (wish me luck), However a few strange things have happened one was during the middle of the psychotic break (the out reach center is right beside my house so i went back there as soon as i began to lose my mind thinking they would help me. They witnessed the entire episode.) During it I pulled out my phone and used a digital version of the IChing, I got hexagram 43 "Break-Through" I flipped coins digitally in unision to the ticking of the clock and the energy coming out of the social workers heads....That helped me actually to have read the Judgment the Iching gave me (I'll post it below.)

The other strange thing is now that I am off all substance and medication, My memory is improved 110%, I can remember things I've never been able to remember in my life. Names, Phone numbers, places, details...I feel clear and focused, no panic attacks, no depression... Whatever happened has changed me for life, Now I fear they will try to put me in a Chemically induced prison...I hope this isn't the case. Thank you for reading this, Please wish me goodluck on Tuesday. Unfortunately, Now I can't use cannabis for at least 8 months- 1 year.

-Jordan
A.K.A
-"R.P. McMurphy"

The Value Of A Psychotic Experience

"Listen, wait, and be patient. Every shaman knows you have to deal with the fire that's in your audience's eye. " -Ken Kesey

P.S. (notes)

HEXAGRAM NUMBER FORTY-THREE –

RESOLUTENESS, BREAK-THROUGH

Other titles: Break-through, The Symbol of Decision, Resolution, Determination, Parting, Removing Corruption, Eradication



Judgment

Legge: Recognizing the risks involved in criminal prosecution, justice demands a resolute proof of the culprit's guilt in the royal court. One informs one's own city that armed force is not necessary. In this way progress is assured.

Wilhelm/Baynes:Break-through. One must resolutely make the matter known at the court of the king. It must be announced truthfully. Danger. It is necessary to notify one's own city. It does not further to resort to arms. It furthers one to undertake something.

Blofeld: Resolution. When a proclamation is made at the court of the King, frankness in revealing the true state of affairs is dangerous. [In vital matters, frankness may prove dangerous.] In making announcements to the people of his own city, it is not fitting for the ruler to carry arms. [It is better to repose trust in our own people.] It is favorable to have some goal (or destination).

The hexagram is linked with the third month of the Chinese Zodiac [April-May]."
iching43.gif
 
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Zow237

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Hi,I'd like to briefly share my story with the Vapcap. It profoundly changed my life...Recently I was put into a state psychiatric center for Suicidal Ideation (I had been struggling with depression and panic attacks for years along with the demon spirits, alcohol.) So I did what any drunk suicidal person that wanted some hope would do, and went to my local outreach center. Well that has turned out to be a HUGE change in my life, long story somewhat short, they court ordered me to a state psychiatric center, inside they had me take powerful medication; Haldol, Phenobarbitol, and Modifinil For 7 days. (They have me wrongly diagnosed and Scizophrenic and Psychotic at the Local outreach center)...Anyways, Despite me saying "I think the patients are staff members." During my final interview with the Doctor (Which I now recognize and distinguish as a subthreshold delusion caused by Haldol and perhaps Modifinil, I was discharged at 11:00 P.M. Where I was taxied to a one room bus station, Alone I waited for 2 1/2 hours with nothing but a camera watching me, I began to have paranoid dellusional thoughts that I tried to ignore. As I got on the bus I began to think the Bus station drivers worked for the Hospital, I got home around 4:30 AM. Later that day I went and got my prescriptions filled, All except for Modifinil (which wasn't covered by my insurnece) And I had filled a bottle of Cybalta and took that along with Haldol.

I walked home from the pharmacy that afternoon and decided to go out back to use the Vapcap, I had many interviews with the "Doctor" I stated "I am an inveterate cannabis use, are you sure it's safe to mix with these medications?" He replied many times, "Should be no problem." ....well after 2-3 hits off the vapcap, I had a full blown 3 1/2 day psychosis, the peak of which lasted for about 1 1/2 hours, I had full hallucinations and dellusions consisting of thinking people could read my mind, rays of light coming out of two social workers heads.

I changed in 10 minutes from being an adult to being a little child playing with a bug on a piece of paper, then to histracilly laughing...then for the remainder of the 3 days I was convinced that 3 seperate hospitals I had been in were all a Government mind control research program, keeping track of me with security cameras, about day 3-4 I began to return to reality. Now that I am back to normal, since I broke the court order refusing to take medication, the outreach center is taking me to court on Tuesday at 9AM (wish me luck), However a few strange things have happened one was during the middle of the psychotic break (the out reach center is right beside my house so i went back there as soon as i began to lose my mind thinking they would help me. They witnessed the entire episode.) During it I pulled out my phone and used a digital version of the IChing, I got hexagram 43 "Break-Through" I flipped coins digitally in unision to the ticking of the clock and the energy coming out of the social workers heads....That helped me actually to have read the Judgment the Iching gave me (I'll post it below.)

The other strange thing is now that I am off all substance and medication, My memory is improved 110%, I can remember things I've never been able to remember in my life. Names, Phone numbers, places, details...I feel clear and focused, no panic attacks, no depression... Whatever happened has changed me for life, Now I fear they will try to put me in a Chemically induced prison...I hope this isn't the case. Thank you for reading this, Please wish me goodluck on Tuesday. Unfortunately, Now I can't use cannabis for at least 8 months- 1 year.

-Jordan
A.K.A
-"R.P. McMurphy"

The Value Of A Psychotic Experience

"Listen, wait, and be patient. Every shaman knows you have to deal with the fire that's in your audience's eye. " -Ken Kesey

P.S. (notes)

HEXAGRAM NUMBER FORTY-THREE –

RESOLUTENESS

Other titles: Break-through, The Symbol of Decision, Resolution, Determination, Parting, Removing Corruption, Eradication



Judgment

Legge: Recognizing the risks involved in criminal prosecution, justice demands a resolute proof of the culprit's guilt in the royal court. One informs one's own city that armed force is not necessary. In this way progress is assured.

Wilhelm/Baynes:Break-through. One must resolutely make the matter known at the court of the king. It must be announced truthfully. Danger. It is necessary to notify one's own city. It does not further to resort to arms. It furthers one to undertake something.

Blofeld: Resolution. When a proclamation is made at the court of the King, frankness in revealing the true state of affairs is dangerous. [In vital matters, frankness may prove dangerous.] In making announcements to the people of his own city, it is not fitting for the ruler to carry arms. [It is better to repose trust in our own people.] It is favorable to have some goal (or destination).

The hexagram is linked with the third month of the Chinese Zodiac [April-May]."
iching43.gif

This is why people are using micro doses of magic mushrooms and psychedelics. The trips and altered mind can change perception and cognition of life. It can help with depression and all sorts o mental health issues. All I can say BOOM!
 

phattpiggie

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Accessory Maker
@Archaicrevival, a very brave thing to share this with us and I wish you all the best for Tuesday.
As far as I can see as long as you can prove that you feel better with out the meds and tell them you've stopped MJ as well how can they force you to take anything.
If you're not a danger to yourself or others how can they justify keeping you 'quiet' with meds and incarceration.

In Scotland it used to be if you got sectioned and placed in an institute then 'escaped' and stayed out of trouble for 30 days they had to let you be, the thinking is if you can last a month with out any problems then there's nothing wrong with you.

Probably a good thing to clear your system of all substances and re-evaluate your situation at a later date.
All the best.

Got a nice stem done yesterday and when I sat down filled a bowl with green I had @AJS and his vapor rings in mind.
I have to admit to playing with the thick vapor the VC produces.
I sat and blew out at least 10 nicely formed little circles of vapor and was perplexed at how it produced so many compared to other times, then I realised I still had a little lump of kief in the bowl that I hadn't finished from earlier.
 

stardustsailor

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A Reddit thread has got me intrigued.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Dynavap/comments/6akh11/is_this_supposed_to_happen_are_caps_consumables

Are caps really only good for about a year of use?

Hearing about them crack with use is a bit worrying. And someone there seems to confirm they are meant for only a few months use.

My opinion is that those caps probably will last for pretty long time (way much more than a year ),
unless :

-Your dog chew on the cap .Yeap,it already happened .Someone has alredy mentioned it.

-You or somebody else stepped on the cap .

-You 've decided that your cap needs sanding.
Even with the finest grit possible (2500 EU ) it will be a matter of time ,
before the cap gets ...decapitated .

It's pretty normal.The cap is made of a S.Steel sheet with a thickness of approx. 100 microns.
Expecting that a 100 micron thick metal cap can withstand a humans weight or the force
applied from a dog's jaws is simply absurd .
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As for the cap cracking under repetitive heat 'n' cool cycles ,
MAYBE there's such a possibility,but only on certain caps .
Let me explain .
I ve already some caps ,under really heavy use-and I mean really heavy use ,trust me on that ,you would not believe me if I told you...
One of them MAYBE it will show some cracking in the future .
Why ?
On that particular cap the scoop doesn't exactly follow the curvature of the circular cap ,
but rather has a mind of it's own and prefers to be almost flat .
I've tried with some pliers to make it "curvy " ,but without much of a success.
Since the rest of the cap is heated and cooled down repeatedly ,the metal
of the cap slowly over time looses it's stiffness and becomes rather soft.
Still the scoop is not "flame-treated " like the rest of the cap,thus still holding it's stiffness.
Thus at a certain point the scoop (being rather flat ) MAYBE will start cracking the cap ,
at points of stress.
At the pic below the red marked areas , show those possible points of stress.


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As for overheating the cap .
That will cause the low expansion side ( LES )of the bimetallic discs used,
to reach to their Curie temperature or -worse-above it and then
the bimetallic disc will cease to function properly.
The cap itself though ,won't melt or deform .

(...)


THE EFFECT OF FLEXIVITY TEMPERATURE DEPENDENCE ON MATERIAL SELECTION
Most LES materials exhibit a phenomenon known as the “Invar Effect”. The Invar Effect is the near zero thermal expansion that occurs in some materials. The Invar Effect occurs below the materials Curie temperature. The Curie temperature is a specific temperature for each material defined by the material’s atomic structure at which the material changes magnetic permeability. Above the Curie temperature, a phase transformation occurs which changes the material’s magnetic permeability from ferro-magnetic to para-magnetic. The changes in crystallographic orientation, energy, and entropy that occur as the Curie temperature is approached cause LES materials to lose their low expansion properties. Above the Curie temperature, LES materials have rates of thermal expansion similar to typical steel. Therefore, LES materials must remain ferromagnetic and be used below their Curie temperatures to maintain their low expansion characteristics. The commonly defined Curie temperature for standard Invar (Fe-36Ni) is 230°C. (...)


http://www.emsclad.com/fileadmin/Data/Divisions/EMS/Bimetal_Desingers_Guide.pdf
 
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phattpiggie

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Accessory Maker
Very informative @stardustsailor, thanks.

I got spare caps just in case I lost one, not because I was worried they would stop functioning.

For me if I get a year out of a $20 cap then that's fine by me, a decent set of 18650 batteries would cost me as much and have the same kind of life span. Other devices may use smaller cells that cost less but the run times are less so they would need charging more often which shortens their life span.

To put it into monetary terms IF a cap were to only last for one year.

A $20 cap run to the click 4 times per bowl 5 times a day works out at 20 clicks a day, multiplied by 365 days gives me 7300 cycles per year.

$20 divided by 7300 means 2.7c a click.
 

stardustsailor

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Accessory Maker
Hi have a M and was going to pull the trigger on an Omni but are they going to ship with the 5 fin instead of the 7 fin cap now then ?
Will performance be affected ?
Yes ,judging from what we all 've experienced from Dynavap ,
performance will most probably be affected.
To the better ,of course.

If you do not have any problem with the aesthetics of the new 5 finned Ti tip,
then you should go for it ,by all means !
 

stardustsailor

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Accessory Maker
I got spare caps just in case I lost one, not because I was worried they would stop functioning.
Every serious Vapcaper should have a spare cap ,for the same exact reason.
The cap is the "heart" of every VC model.
In case it got lost there should be always a spare ..heart ready
to replace the lost one and keep things rollin' ..
 

Stevenski

Enter the Dragon
How can you upgrade an OG?
PS: Lucky brother!

It is the old OG model with the dropper style condenser & had a ceramic screen so I can upgrade it with the new style condenser or a standard condenser & rubber MP or a XL condenser & MP. Already changed it out with the 8mm Ti screens I found a year ago. I really want it back so I have one I can gift to a friend or just have another VC hanging around for no good reason.

I am enjoying my G4 tip in my long Wood Scent stem since I don't really care for the carb. What a ripper!

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mucsusn

60 going on 20
It is the old OG model with the dropper style condenser & had a ceramic screen so I can upgrade it with the new style condenser or a standard condenser & rubber MP or a XL condenser & MP. Already changed it out with the 8mm Ti screens I found a year ago. I really want it back so I have one I can gift to a friend or just have another VC hanging around for no good reason.

I am enjoying my G4 tip in my long Wood Scent stem since I don't really care for the carb. What a ripper!

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I love my long WS stem for the same reason, Ed has added some great tools for cappers!
 

SloJimFizz

Unknown Member

:drool:

I love my long WS stem for the same reason, Ed has added some great tools for cappers!

Since I dont own a log vape yet, the compatibility with the Vapcap has put one of Ed's WS's on my "Will own eventually" list. My justifying mind is subtracting $100-$150 from the total (depending on species) cause ordering a matching stem and vong would be in that ballpark when bought just for my VC. :brow:

XL condenser and mouthpiece........abracadabra........you now have a Vapcap S, one of my favorites! But I think Stevenski did a swap
Tried that Vapcap S setup last night. Very nice and surprisingly easy to spin while heating.
 

mucsusn

60 going on 20
:drool:



Since I dont own a log vape yet, the compatibility with the Vapcap has put one of Ed's WS's on my "Will own eventually" list. My justifying mind is subtracting $100-$150 from the total (depending on species) cause ordering a matching stem and vong would be in that ballpark when bought just for my VC. :brow:


Tried that Vapcap S setup last night. Very nice and surprisingly easy to spin while heating.
I have a cherry WS, save your spare change.......you will not be disappointed! A nice benefit of the WS is that you can just remove a cap and use any of your Ti's as a stem.

Regarding the S model, I just threw an OG and an S for shits and giggles on my 420 sale order. Also got some extra bodies and condensers. The OG works great, but the S is just a little beast! Easy to spin, and I love the glass flavor. The bowl seems a bit smaller than the M or standard Ti depth, so it's become my "one-hitter". A 3 second preheat, wait a touch, then heat to click, draw to cool-down click.......BOOM
 

stardustsailor

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
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As for the cap cracking under repetitive heat 'n' cool cycles ,
MAYBE there's such a possibility,but only on certain caps .
Let me explain .
I ve already some caps ,under really heavy use-and I mean really heavy use ,trust me on that ,you would not believe me if I told you...
One of them MAYBE it will show some cracking in the future .
Why ?
On that particular cap the scoop doesn't exactly follow the curvature of the circular cap ,
but rather has a mind of it's own and prefers to be almost flat .
I've tried with some pliers to make it "curvy " ,but without much of a success.
Since the rest of the cap is heated and cooled down repeatedly ,the metal
of the cap slowly over time looses it's stiffness and becomes rather soft.
Still the scoop is not "flame-treated " like the rest of the cap,thus still holding it's stiffness.
Thus at a certain point the scoop (being rather flat ) MAYBE will start cracking the cap ,
at points of stress.
At the pic below the red marked areas , show those possible points of stress.


Well-well what have we got here ?
Seems every part of our beloved VCs is under constant change and that is called evolution !

I'm not really sure for the exact reason(s) George did change that detail ,but for sure it's for the better
,in many ways .

But let me take everything from the beginning.
After posting my thoughts about possible cracking of some certain caps ,due to their scoop's
tendency to flatness ,I took this old -" problematic "- cap and compare it with my
(from 4/20 sale ) Nonavongs cap ...


Do you see what I see ?

Of course that reduction of scoop width was not done "just because" or in
order to save some material (it's already ridiculous just mentioning about it ).

Most probably George had already spotted the possible stress issue caused by some scoops ,
that tend to hold the original flat state of the steel sheet ( "spring steel memory" effect ) before being formed (cold pressed ? ) into a cap.
And ,of course ,gave the simplest -but yet most efficient-solution ever.
Reducing the width ,shape & material of the scoop ,the forces applied to the cap by a flat scoop are drastically decreased.

One thing for sure.
George loves his creations .
:nod::clap::nod::clap::nod::clap::nod:
And he is constantly trying to make them better and better.
:tup:
Over and out .
 
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