XVape XLUX ROFFU

[WhyWhyWhy?]

Then realized it was not for you. Yeah you can be pissed, but you did it to yourself, if you bought one you probably wouldn’t be so upset, next time one at time until you’re sure it’s what you want. Very expensive life lessons.

I wrote earlier that I bought 1 piece of Roffu first. I used it for a month, I really liked its appearance and ergonomics. And only after that I bought 2 more pieces. And after a couple of months, I was disappointed. And yes, the lesson for the future is "take your time!"

Ps2 : maybe you should quit the bad advertisement and try to sell at least 2 ?;-)

I've already sold 1 out of three. I hope I will sell the rest

 

[GnarlyVandal]

I wrote earlier that I bought 1 piece of Roffu first. I used it for a month, I really liked its appearance and ergonomics. And only after that I bought 2 more pieces. And after a couple of months, I was disappointed. And yes, the lesson for the future is "take your time!"



I've already sold 1 out of three. I hope I will sell the rest

The Roffu is a cheaper convection vape that actually works. A couple of years ago such a device at its price point would’ve been completely unthinkable, especially with all the customisation and accessory options.

I’m literally stumped on how you used it for a month and then bought 2 more because you liked it so much, before deciding due to arbitrary tests that it’s not good enough for you, all over .018g that MOST cheap vapes would struggle to give decent hits from. Mind boggling, but also kind of funny?

I have many vapes and Roffu has never been my favourite, however for over a year it was my daily driver due to how reliable and convenient it is.

Smokers I know converted to vaping with a Roffu, something other, more expensive ‘better’ vapes never convinced them to do because of perceived downsides, including your new favourite device mentioned in your first comment. I no longer use it as my daily, but have over 30,000 puffs recorded.

Thanks for your views and attempts at scientific exploration of why the Roffu no longer meets your needs, I do however think MOST people purchase this device aware that it is not AS good as many alternatives, but 4/5’s as good at 1/3 of the price.

 

[dukes00]

The Roffu is a cheaper convection vape that actually works. A couple of years ago such a device at its price point would’ve been completely unthinkable, especially with all the customisation and accessory options.

I’m literally stumped on how you used it for a month and then bought 2 more because you liked it so much, before deciding due to arbitrary tests that it’s not good enough for you, all over .018g that MOST cheap vapes would struggle to give decent hits from. Mind boggling, but also kind of funny?

I have many vapes and Roffu has never been my favourite, however for over a year it was my daily driver due to how reliable and convenient it is.

Smokers I know converted to vaping with a Roffu, something other, more expensive ‘better’ vapes never convinced them to do because of perceived downsides, including your new favourite device mentioned in your first comment. I no longer use it as my daily, but have over 30,000 puffs recorded.

Thanks for your views and attempts at scientific exploration of why the Roffu no longer meets your needs, I do however think MOST people purchase this device aware that it is not AS good as many alternatives, but 4/5’s as good at 1/3 of the price.

Out of curiosity - what is your current daily driver?

 

[GnarlyVandal]

Out of curiosity - what is your current daily driver?

Up until last Tuesday I was using a Dynavap vong with an armoured cap I picked up in April, with either a big torch or Ispire wand.

Before the Roffu was my firewood 7 which is my 2nd favourite device and still sees semi-regular use.

My current DD and new favourite is tempest/wand/reload combo that arrived last week, so I’m still very much in the honeymoon period, but am absolutely loving it.

 

[WhyWhyWhy?]

The Roffu is a cheaper convection vape that actually works. A couple of years ago such a device at its price point would’ve been completely unthinkable, especially with all the customisation and accessory options.

I’m literally stumped on how you used it for a month and then bought 2 more because you liked it so much, before deciding due to arbitrary tests that it’s not good enough for you, all over .018g that MOST cheap vapes would struggle to give decent hits from. Mind boggling, but also kind of funny?

I have many vapes and Roffu has never been my favourite, however for over a year it was my daily driver due to how reliable and convenient it is.

Smokers I know converted to vaping with a Roffu, something other, more expensive ‘better’ vapes never convinced them to do because of perceived downsides, including your new favourite device mentioned in your first comment. I no longer use it as my daily, but have over 30,000 puffs recorded.

Thanks for your views and attempts at scientific exploration of why the Roffu no longer meets your needs, I do however think MOST people purchase this device aware that it is not AS good as many alternatives, but 4/5’s as good at 1/3 of the price.

Thank you for your adequate view from the outside. yes, it looks funny that I used it for a whole month, then bought 2 more pieces and only after that I was disappointed... But the fact is that I use vaporizers only in the evening, not every day, and I need more time to fully determine my preferences than an avid vaper.

I completely agree that for its price, Roffu does an excellent job. The person I sold the Roffu to is very happy with the purchase. And I'm glad about it too.

 

[rpr]

A few questions for you guys:

1. I’m struggling with the burnt popcorn taste with my Roffu. The difference in taste between the 1st and 2nd puff is huge compared to my other conduction only device. I generally vape at temps between 320F and 360F. Can you guys share any cleaning protocols that have worked well to minimize this burnt popcorn taste with the Roffu?

2. I was initially using the dosing capsules but after being disappointed with the taste I’ve been trying to just use the glass chamber with the white plastic disk so I can finish smaller amounts of herb in each session. I don’t see any instructions in the manual on whether this white disk is intended to be placed in the glass chamber first (under the herb) or last (over the herb). There are screens below and above the oven chamber so does it even matter?

3. Cleaning the device is definitely more difficult when not using the dosing capsules. Has anyone had good results by simply filling the dosing capsules 1/2 way?

FWIW, I have a TM2 on order but I would still like to experiment with the Roffu to get better results. The vapor density is great, just struggling with the burnt popcorn taste after the 1st puff even after it’s just been cleaned.

 

[vapviking]

A few questions for you guys:

1. I’m struggling with the burnt popcorn taste with my Roffu. The difference in taste between the 1st and 2nd puff is huge compared to my other conduction only device. I generally vape at temps between 320F and 360F. Can you guys share any cleaning protocols that have worked well to minimize this burnt popcorn taste with the Roffu?

2. I was initially using the dosing capsules but after being disappointed with the taste I’ve been trying to just use the glass chamber with the white plastic disk so I can finish smaller amounts of herb in each session. I don’t see any instructions in the manual on whether this white disk is intended to be placed in the glass chamber first (under the herb) or last (over the herb). There are screens below and above the oven chamber so does it even matter?

3. Cleaning the device is definitely more difficult when not using the dosing capsules. Has anyone had good results by simply filling the dosing capsules 1/2 way?

FWIW, I have a TM2 on order but I would still like to experiment with the Roffu to get better results. The vapor density is great, just struggling with the burnt popcorn taste after the 1st puff even after it’s just been cleaned.

The glass chamber's screen needs to be at bottom of the load. Don't let the herb touch that heater screen!
You mighy even try letting the chamber screen sit a little higher (you'll see a little gap between chamber screen and the heater screen below it.

Be sure you are not blocking air intake while drawing.

I don't use dosing capsules, just the lightest pack of a full chamber. Less is okay, too.

The std mouthpiece/cooling system requires more cleaning than using the optional wpa/glass mp.

 

[rpr]

Thanks. Is it fair to say that most of you guys are satisfied with taste from the Roffu and you’re not noticing much burnt popcorn taste?

If so I have an issue with my unit…or there’s a fairly significant issue with my cleaning protocol.

 

[LesPlenty]

Is it fair to say that most of you guys are satisfied with taste from the Roffu and you’re not noticing much burnt popcorn taste?

I am very satisfied with the taste of my Roffu. The burnt popcorn taste is reached after the load has been spent, try using the white disc raised a little as suggested by @vapviking so your herb load is not being scorched at the bottom before the whole load gets a chance to vaporize.
I would also try to blow out the top of your heater as you may have a tiny bit of herb past the heater post when you used the filter disc in the wrong position...that bit of herb will taint the taste with burnt popcorn for sure.

2. I was initially using the dosing capsules but after being disappointed with the taste

Using these introduces conduction to the vaporization process and in my opinion does reduce the flavour somewhat but makes up for that with ease of use.
The glass mouth piece/WPA also improves the taste a little by removing some silicone from the vapor path.

 

[rpr]

I’ve had this issue even before I tried direct loading, when I was exclusively using the dosing capsules. However, your comment about herb touching the heater screen got me thinking.

Even with exclusive use of the dosing capsules the heater screen gets stained. I’ve been cleaning it with an IPA Q-tip but I haven’t been inverting the device when doing so. XLuxe’s site and the Roffu’s manual stays silent on how to clean the heater screen (unless I missed it) but I just found an FAQ on a 3rd party retailer’s site that says cotton swabs soaked with IPA can be used to clean the heater screen but it recommends that the device be inverted when doing so to prevent any liquid from dripping into the heating element below.

So…I may have contaminated the heater.

Not sure what can be done about that if in fact that’s what’s going on. I could have sworn I saw Roffu heaters for like $35 somewhere but I can’t find it now so that might have been for a different vaporizer.

 

[kiddvudu2]

I’ve had this issue even before I tried direct loading, when I was exclusively using the dosing capsules. However, your comment about herb touching the heater screen got me thinking.

Even with exclusive use of the dosing capsules the heater screen gets stained. I’ve been cleaning it with an IPA Q-tip but I haven’t been inverting the device when doing so. XLuxe’s site and the Roffu’s manual stays silent on how to clean the heater screen (unless I missed it) but I just found an FAQ on a 3rd party retailer’s site that says cotton swabs soaked with IPA can be used to clean the heater screen but it recommends that the device be inverted when doing so to prevent any liquid from dripping into the heating element below.

So…I may have contaminated the heater.

Not sure what can be done about that if in fact that’s what’s going on. I could have sworn I saw Roffu heaters for like $35 somewhere but I can’t find it now so that might have been for a different vaporizer.

I would never allow cleaning agents to drip down inside of a heating element that I intended to inhale air through. Not sure what you can do about it now though. Maybe do some burnoff cycles and see if the smell dissipates?

Good luck!

 

[rpr]

This is all just speculation. I’ve only sparingly dabbed the screen on the heater to clean it with a wet but not saturated Qtip. I’m only speculating that some residual amount of ipa may have infiltrated the burner. Screens on vaporizers get cleaned with ipa, I doubt I’m the only one who’s not considered inverting the device to minimize the risk of contaminating the heater, but yes my bad. Burn off cycles do not reveal any significant odor so I’m not even sure that’s what’s causing my burnt popcorn taste on almost all puffs except my first, but it’s a possibility.

 

[Old Stoner1958]

Try to take a light steady and long draw. This the best way I have found and the taste ia always great.

 

[LesPlenty]

Burn off cycles do not reveal any significant odor

Not herb below the screen then.
I also use 100% iso to clean the top of my Roffu oven, I have squirted iso through many vapes to clean them and just make sure to thoroughly force dry o/night before using them again. I have a Fury2 that blocks up from bong blowback that has had iso squirted through it more times than I can remember so I doubt iso has anything to do with your odor.
I use my Roffu in a few different ways and only get popcorn taste when the load is spent.
Below is an example picture of my use (no stir for any way I use it).

Native/OG, glass oven (no capsule, 6min @180c) for on-the-go with or without capsules depending on the situation...no capsules for better flavour and usually larger clouds simply due to extra herb fitting in the oven without the capsules.
WPA/glass mouthpiece (capsule, 2x6min @190c) mated with S/S oven for added conduction for that mouth-pull joint feel. This setup usually takes longer to get vapor but also takes longer finish (and the reason for the silicon sleeve, it gets hot) and can be more relaxing puffing on it than shifting a lot of air when chasing flavour/clouds convection style. The extra conduction results in a darker roast and more of a 'stoned' feeling for great pain relief.
Finally, (no capsule, 6min @180c) my favourite way to enjoy the Roffu is a glass oven attached directly to a j-hook so I can remove the vape/heat from the bowl between puffs. This gives me the cleanest flavour and is simple to load, empty and clean with a very even roast.
I will also add that my latest version of the Roffu (improvements/tweaks have been ongoing) which uses the stainless steel spring retainer for the oven had less smell during the burn-off-before-first-use smell.

 

[Dvoped]

Hi guys!
I bought a Roffu lite kit more than a month ago, and sadly I still haven't used it with herb.
I went through at least 5 full battery cycles and the silicon/rubber/plastic smell is still there. I don't think it diminished at all really.
I did different temps, different times, with blowing in the intake, doing cigar puffs, with the mouthpiece on/off.. But the smell is still there.

Did anyone get lucky and the smell disappeared after such a long time?

Also, if I let the vape heat to 200C, after 3-4 minutes the (stock)mouthpiece gets so hot it is very uncomfortable for the lips. I read here that many users do 220C sessions. Is it possible that my unit has a faulty heater that heats way over the selected temperature value?

 

[LesPlenty]

the silicon/rubber/plastic smell is still there

The only smell, if any (apart from the normal Kanthal taste some peeps can taste), comes from the new silicone in the cooling unit. The best way to get rid of the new silicone smell (if it a problem for you) is to wash the silicone part with soapy water, rinse very thoroughly then leave the silicon in the sun to dry for a day or three. I have also been told that baking the silicon in a fan-forced oven on low for an hour or so can speed up the curing process but I have not had to do this myself.

Also, if I let the vape heat to 200C, after 3-4 minutes the (stock)mouthpiece gets so hot it is very uncomfortable for the lips. I read here that many users do 220C sessions. Is it possible that my unit has a faulty heater that heats way over the selected temperature value?

Doing continuous back-to-back heat cycles without drawing air through the unit will get every part of the vape hotter than it was designed for as the unit is a convection device that uses air to shift heat through the load from the heater.
That said, I like my silicone armour sleeve when using capsules and having back-to-back sessions as the unit can get quite hot.
Here is an idea of how hot the CU can get for reference,

 

[Dvoped]

Hi!
Thanks for the reply. As others have stated before me, the smell comes from inside the device, and not from the mouthpiece. It is way more apparent in higher temps. Below 190C it is barely noticeable.
I guess I have a faulty device, as many before me..
I will do 1 more battery charge of burnoffs, if it doesn't help I will try to get it exchanged for a new piece.

 

[Dvoped]

Hi again!
I cannot return my unit since I could only return it in 15 days since purchase, if it was unopened.
As the product has 1 year warranty I can get it changed, but just the off smell was not enough for the store to accept it, and asked me to try with flower.

I have read this topic about xmaxv3 pro.
If I cover my intake holes and take a drag, I can still draw air with no problem. Meaning the air in my unit is not isolated, so I could perhaps use this to exchange my unit?

Can anyone verify this with their unit? Can you still drag air even though you completely cover the air intake holes?
Also, while I drag and have the intake air covered, if I also cover the USB charging port, the "hissing" sound of drawing air changes, kinda like playing a flute. Meaning I am dragging air from USB port too. And I guess that is the reason I can taste all that weird flavor?

Many thanks!

 

[LesPlenty]

If I cover my intake holes and take a drag, I can still draw air with no problem. Meaning the air in my unit is not isolated, so I could perhaps use this to exchange my unit?

The Roffu does not have an isolated intake and you will be able to suck air even with the intake and USB covered, just not as easily...so not a reason for an exchange.

 

[Moody]

Hi again!
I cannot return my unit since I could only return it in 15 days since purchase, if it was unopened.
As the product has 1 year warranty I can get it changed, but just the off smell was not enough for the store to accept it, and asked me to try with flower.

I have read this topic about xmaxv3 pro.
If I cover my intake holes and take a drag, I can still draw air with no problem. Meaning the air in my unit is not isolated, so I could perhaps use this to exchange my unit?

Can anyone verify this with their unit? Can you still drag air even though you completely cover the air intake holes?
Also, while I drag and have the intake air covered, if I also cover the USB charging port, the "hissing" sound of drawing air changes, kinda like playing a flute. Meaning I am dragging air from USB port too. And I guess that is the reason I can taste all that weird flavor?

Many thanks!

So I just ordered a Roffu yesterday. I have Dynavap (wand ih), mighty+, solo2max, solo3. I'm going to try out the vape as it is packaged for delivery and then make the mods (steel chamber, WPA, etc). The only vape I've had with a noticeable after taste is the mighty+. Not sure calling it "after taste" is really fair. More of a burning sensation in the throat coupled with a faint taste of something mildly unpleasant. I used the might+ plus for 2 years before I bought another vape and just thought that's how ALL vapes probably are.

I'll be very honest once I take a test drive or two ..or three with the Roffu.

If you are hyper sensitive to taste etc, I suggest something like an arizer or tm2 etc.

I know PEEK plastic is deemed safe etc, but once I finally tried another vape, I rarely use the mighty now. I still do, and then when that slight burning sensation, slight smell hits me, I remember why I prefer the others more. Again, the taste is extremely subtle, and occurs later in the session. The burning happens and is noticeable fairly quickly. Maybe you should just try another vape if you aren't happy?

It could be just this vape isn't ideal for you. I needed something small that works well for dog walks. Not particularly concerned about some mild smell from an oring or gasket.

I will post my thoughts and experiences once I've tested it a bit. Good luck.

 

[Dvoped]

So I just ordered a Roffu yesterday. I have Dynavap (wand ih), mighty+, solo2max, solo3. I'm going to try out the vape as it is packaged for delivery and then make the mods (steel chamber, WPA, etc). The only vape I've had with a noticeable after taste is the mighty+. Not sure calling it "after taste" is really fair. More of a burning sensation in the throat coupled with a faint taste of something mildly unpleasant. I used the might+ plus for 2 years before I bought another vape and just thought that's how ALL vapes probably are.

I'll be very honest once I take a test drive or two ..or three with the Roffu.

If you are hyper sensitive to taste etc, I suggest something like an arizer or tm2 etc.

I know PEEK plastic is deemed safe etc, but once I finally tried another vape, I rarely use the mighty now. I still do, and then when that slight burning sensation, slight smell hits me, I remember why I prefer the others more. Again, the taste is extremely subtle, and occurs later in the session. The burning happens and is noticeable fairly quickly. Maybe you should just try another vape if you aren't happy?

It could be just this vape isn't ideal for you. I needed something small that works well for dog walks. Not particularly concerned about some mild smell from an oring or gasket.

I will post my thoughts and experiences once I've tested it a bit. Good luck.

Hi!

Thanks for your comment. I also got the Roffu for its form factor. In every other aspect, the vape is perfect for me. The portability, the swappable battery, the innovative cooling mouthpiece, session/on-demand mode... I just don't like the smell coming from the device..

I also don't mind if there is a silicone smell from the mouthpiece or o-ring, that goes away with time and is masked by herb.
What worries me is the smell coming from inside the device. I still own many cheap vapes. But they have an isolated air pathway. I just checked with my Fenix 1 vape - which is perhaps a 10-year-old model - if I cover the air intake holes, I can't take a drag.

With Roffu, if I cover the intake hole I can still drag air in, albeit with more restriction. I don't think this is how a modern vape is supposed to work. If the air travels through the USB port and battery compartment, it will have some "electronic" smell once the device gets hot. And as much as I could tolerate the off-smell, I am way more worried about inhaling anything potentially harmful. I switched to vaping as a healthier option compared to combusting herbs. I don't want to vape any nasty chemicals from the electronics.

Les Plenty mentioned the airpath is not isolated. If I had known that I wouldn't make this purchase.
I assumed every vape has an isolated air path these days. And even their website states so
Quoting from Roffu FAQ on the website www.xvapeusa.com:

WHAT ARE THE COMPONENTS MADE OUT OF? IS THE MATERIAL FOOD-GRADE AND HARMLESS?

Mouthpiece: Ceramic Zirconia

Chamber: Glass

Filter component: Stainless steel & Ceramic

Airflow box: Ceramic Zirconia

The materials of these components are certificated and pass the food-grade material inspection. Besides, the 100% isolated airflow path can help users to get a cleaner and purer vapor.

WHAT MATERIAL IS THE AIRFLOW PATH MADE OUT OF?

The airflow path is made out of clean and certificated ceramic. Besides, it’s 100% isolated from electronic or plastic components.

 

[Moody]

Hi!

Thanks for your comment. I also got the Roffu for its form factor. In every other aspect, the vape is perfect for me. The portability, the swappable battery, the innovative cooling mouthpiece, session/on-demand mode... I just don't like the smell coming from the device..

I also don't mind if there is a silicone smell from the mouthpiece or o-ring, that goes away with time and is masked by herb.
What worries me is the smell coming from inside the device. I still own many cheap vapes. But they have an isolated air pathway. I just checked with my Fenix 1 vape - which is perhaps a 10-year-old model - if I cover the air intake holes, I can't take a drag.

With Roffu, if I cover the intake hole I can still drag air in, albeit with more restriction. I don't think this is how a modern vape is supposed to work. If the air travels through the USB port and battery compartment, it will have some "electronic" smell once the device gets hot. And as much as I could tolerate the off-smell, I am way more worried about inhaling anything potentially harmful. I switched to vaping as a healthier option compared to combusting herbs. I don't want to vape any nasty chemicals from the electronics.

Les Plenty mentioned the airpath is not isolated. If I had known that I wouldn't make this purchase.
I assumed every vape has an isolated air path these days. And even their website states so
Quoting from Roffu FAQ on the website www.xvapeusa.com:

WHAT ARE THE COMPONENTS MADE OUT OF? IS THE MATERIAL FOOD-GRADE AND HARMLESS?

Mouthpiece: Ceramic Zirconia

Chamber: Glass

Filter component: Stainless steel & Ceramic

Airflow box: Ceramic Zirconia

The materials of these components are certificated and pass the food-grade material inspection. Besides, the 100% isolated airflow path can help users to get a cleaner and purer vapor.

WHAT MATERIAL IS THE AIRFLOW PATH MADE OUT OF?

The airflow path is made out of clean and certificated ceramic. Besides, it’s 100% isolated from electronic or plastic components.

I understand. In your case, you have deduced it is from internal electronics/components. I'll detail my experience and post it after a few tests. I want to get a good feel for the operation prior to actually taking a dog walk with it anyways (the primary purpose for the Roffu purchase).

I do a lot of research before making a purchase, and I have seen posts about the smell. Lots of posts have stated that it dissipated over a short time of use. But there are a couple I've seen in reddit that state it is a well-pronounced odor that won't lessen.

I'm going to take mine apart and wash the rubber/silicone with dawn detergent and wipe other areas (screens etc) with iso/qtip. I plan on using it the way it is packaged first then switch it to the popular version of removing screens, using wpa, etc.

Once I've used it a handful of times I'll touch on the smell. I'm really curious about it now. Since this isn't a vape I plan on using a lot (just dog walks) I wasn't too concerned if there wasnt an isolated path etc. If the smell is noticeable enough, I could understand not wanting to use it as a daily driver.

I'll provide an update as I test, and if you have any questions or would like to compare notes to see if your Roffu may be operating a bit differently than others (mine), I'd love to help.

 

[Pukka]

wash the rubber/silicone with dawn detergent

You might try Dr Bonners soap instead of Dawn. Totally organic, actually eatable, and I find the faint peppermint aftereffects much more acceptable than Dawn's remenents.

 

[RustyOldNail]

You might try Dr Bonners soap instead of Dawn. Totally organic, actually eatable, and I find the faint peppermint aftereffects much more acceptable than Dawn's remenents.

I once used Dawn on a silicone straw piece on a water bottle, took me forever to get that taste out, baking soda etc. Try 99% ISO or ethanol, then water wash….

 

[LesPlenty]

If the air travels through the USB port and battery compartment, it will have some "electronic" smell once the device gets hot.

@Moody If you do not block the air inlet, air will be drawn straight into the heater and will not travel over electronics, battery etc. Air will take the easiest route, directly from the air holes on the side of the unit. Air will only be drawn in from the bottom of the unit through the USB-c socket (and other cracks) if the main air inlet is blocked, so semi isolated? I have asked for the FAQ you linked to be reviewed and made clearer.

But there are a couple I've seen in reddit that state it is a well-pronounced odor that won't lessen.

This may have been a problem with the old oven retaining system that used o-rings but the Roffu now uses a stainless steel spring retainer for that purpose.
The other possible smell I believe that a few people are sensitive to is the Kanthal heater used in the Roffu (the reason Vapbong swapped from Kanthal to stainless steel...but some peeps don't like S/S) and can smell/taste it when the heater is on without herb.
I look forward to your thoughts on this @Moody

I once used Dawn on a silicone straw piece on a water bottle, took me forever to get that taste out

Great advice as I did the same with my first Boundless Tera...never again, iso and/or bi-carb and the sun/oven for me.