Which Log??

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cosimo said:
oh yeah, me too..... so, since im saving for a CL, now


I wonder if a CL would be able to go as low as i normally do with my WS... my max volts on the vvps for dry hits is 8.3...
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I suspect it can, although some folks have mentioned that Chis can tune the heater to be hotter or cooler. Maybe email him to see if he can guide you on this. Or maybe make sure you are sent one tuned to your preferences.

I am going to tune my WS down a lot and see what I can get out of it. Maybe I have the old heater after all?

Looks like in my notes that I took my UD SC3 down to 8.5V to avoid the woody flavor, but didn't like the wispy vapor it produces at that that temp. Today might be a chance to experiment with all the logs at lowest end.
 
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Grass Yes said:
Today might be a chance to experiment with all the logs at lowest end
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I didn't try all my logs but I did experiment with low temps on the WS vs. the CL. This is wholely unscientific, but I ran the same flower/grind (0.55g) through both vapes back to back over two evenings. It was the kick-off of my vaping both days so I was fresh. I started with the WS the first evening and the CL the second. The WS was set at 8.5V and the CL was 2 on the PWM. I probably should have measured the current and voltage on each but 🤷🏻. Both were hit on the CC Prophet. WS used the new tip, CL the glass bowl. These are my preferred set ups for both.

I found that I slightly preferred the CL flavor both nights. I chose a favorite fragrant flower to make sure it came through. While the WS had a great flavor, the CL was noticably brighter. Both bowls vapes for about 4 hits before I got no more taste and vapor.

Still think the WS is great, and I enjoy it a lot. Both vapes are better form me at a higher temp which produces a bit more body with the volume of vapor.
 
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Looper714

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Razhumikin said:
Yea id love a breakdown from you on ws vs other logs. Dont have a ws, the draw restriction really turned me off, but im curiois t hear your thoughts.
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I prefer a more restrictive draw which is what led me to WoodScents. I purchased a Thuya Burl WS (what a beauty!) shortly after buying an Underdog alpha, and have been using them both interchangeably, which is absolutely perfect! I'm a microdoser and both of these vapes work well for that! I'd say the WS is more suited to microdosing than the UD due to the chamber size of the new titanium tip, and it produces smooth and tasty vapor, however I have been getting very cloudy one hits using the glass wpa and nylon dd stem with the UD. WS is definitely more restrictive than UD glass stems but comparable to the nylon stems. A bonus of the 3 holes in the WS is that it's very easy to place the log on the wpa. I have been setting my temp to 8 with WS and 11.6 with UD and those are working very well for me, still experimenting though. At this point, still enjoying getting used to both of these and can't say I prefer one over the other, they are both unique and it's been fun using them simultaneously!
 
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Looper714 said:
I prefer a more restrictive draw which is what led me to WoodScents. I purchased a Thuya Burl WS (what a beauty!) shortly after buying an Underdog alpha, and have been using them both interchangeably, which is absolutely perfect! I'm a microdoser and both of these vapes work well for that! I'd say the WS is more suited to microdosing than the UD due to the chamber size of the new titanium tip, and it produces smooth and tasty vapor, however I have been getting very cloudy one hits using the glass wpa and nylon dd stem with the UD. WS is definitely more restrictive than UD glass stems but comparable to the nylon stems. A bonus of the 3 holes in the WS is that it's very easy to place the log on the wpa. I have been setting my temp to 8 with WS and 11.6 with UD and those are working very well for me, still experimenting though. At this point, still enjoying getting used to both of these and can't say I prefer one over the other, they are both unique and it's been fun using them simultaneously!
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Really helpful, thanks!
 
Looper714

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coolbreeze said:
Really helpful, thanks!
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One minor gripe with the WoodScents and that's the power supply; it's very difficult to read the numbers and get your temp set, a digital readout like the Underdog would be so nice! One advantage for me with the WS is I can take back to back to back hits with it and have to wait several minutes between hits with the UD.
 
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Grass Yes said:
I didn't try all my logs but I did experiment with low temps on the WS vs. the CL. This is wholely unscientific, but I ran the same flower/grind (0.55g) through both vapes back to back over two evenings. It was the kick-off of my vaping both days so I was fresh. I started with the WS the first evening and the CL the second. The WS was set at 8.5V and the CL was 2 on the PWM. I probably should have measured the current and voltage on each but 🤷🏻. Both were hit on the CC Prophet. WS used the new tip, CL the glass bowl. These are my preferred set ups for both.

I found that I slightly preferred the CL flavor both nights. I chose a favorite fragrant flower to make sure it came through. While the WS had a great flavor, the CL was noticably brighter. Both bowls vapes for about 4 hits before I got no more taste and vapor.

Still think the WS is great, and I enjoy it a lot. Both vapes are better form me at a higher temp which produces a bit more body with the volume of vapor.
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Can I ask you how do you know your WS was set at 8.5 since there's no digital readout, which is my only issue with the WS. Cheers
 
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Looper714 said:
Can I ask you how do you know your WS was set at 8.5 since there's no digital readout, which is my only issue with the WS. Cheers
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Yep, what @GoldenBud said. I use the ATM with my WS. I did not like the dimmer that came with it.
Looper714 said:
One minor gripe with the WoodScents and that's the power supply; it's very difficult to read the numbers and get your temp set, a digital readout like the Underdog would be so nice! One advantage for me with the WS is I can take back to back to back hits with it and have to wait several minutes between hits with the UD.
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I found that I can't overpower the WS with the normal DV/WS tips because the draw is so tight. However if I use a glass stem and rip it hard I can pull a lot of heat off of it. It takes a little to recover, but not more than my UD alpha. Both keep up fine if I use a slow steady draw. Although it is easier to exhaust the Alpha accidentally. However it does not take multiple minutes to get back to temp for me. Maybe up to a minute.
 
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Looper714

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Grass Yes said:
Yep, what @GoldenBud said. I use the ATM with my WS. I did not like the dimmer that came with it.

I found that I can't overpower the WS with the normal DV/WS tips because the draw is so tight. However if I use a glass stem and rip it hard I can pull a lot of heat off of it. It takes a little to recover, but not more than my UD alpha. Both keep up fine if I use a slow steady draw. Although it is easier to exhaust the Alpha accidentally. However it does not take multiple minutes to get back to temp for me. Maybe up to a minute.
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Can someone direct me to the ATM or WPS (not familiar with either and don't know what the acronym's mean) or another power supply alternative for the WS. Thanks
 
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Grass Yes said:
Yep. I think what Red charges is totally fair, but it took me 5 minutes to assemble and cost about $90 total. It is also probably the single most reliable and useful piece of vape equipment that I own. Still thinking about getting the duplex.
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Yes I am still glad that I shelled out for two pre-built singles so I have one for each room I use, best VVPS I've ever used for everything
 
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Looper714 said:
I prefer a more restrictive draw which is what led me to WoodScents. I purchased a Thuya Burl WS (what a beauty!) shortly after buying an Underdog alpha, and have been using them both interchangeably, which is absolutely perfect! I'm a microdoser and both of these vapes work well for that! I'd say the WS is more suited to microdosing than the UD due to the chamber size of the new titanium tip, and it produces smooth and tasty vapor, however I have been getting very cloudy one hits using the glass wpa and nylon dd stem with the UD. WS is definitely more restrictive than UD glass stems but comparable to the nylon stems. A bonus of the 3 holes in the WS is that it's very easy to place the log on the wpa. I have been setting my temp to 8 with WS and 11.6 with UD and those are working very well for me, still experimenting though. At this point, still enjoying getting used to both of these and can't say I prefer one over the other, they are both unique and it's been fun using them simultaneously!
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Thanks, that's a helpful set of contrasts/comparisons.
 
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I've been using both the WoodScents and Underdog Alpha simultaneously since purchasing them, and it's now been about 6 weeks of daily use of both of these logs. First, I'm glad I have them both, they each offer a different experience and both produce smooth, tasty, voluminous vapor. I ditched the power supply that came with the WS and bought one with a digital readout on Amazon (thanks Goldenbud, see his post above with a link) and much more user friendly. The WS is a restrictive draw and it takes a little getting used to, however I have it down now and am loving it! My favorite way of using the WS is with the glass dd stem and the new titanium tip, I prefer the nylon dd stem with the Underdog, and get a similar but not so restrictive draw as the WS, and am loving that also! My prior preference was vaping through glass, but I'm actually enjoy the dd stems more. I do not prefer one over the other, they both heat up relatively quickly, all components are super easy to clean, and both offer great customer support.
 
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Looper714 said:
I've been using both the WoodScents and Underdog Alpha simultaneously since purchasing them, and it's now been about 6 weeks of daily use of both of these logs. First, I'm glad I have them both, they each offer a different experience and both produce smooth, tasty, voluminous vapor. I ditched the power supply that came with the WS and bought one with a digital readout on Amazon (thanks Goldenbud, see his post above with a link) and much more user friendly. The WS is a restrictive draw and it takes a little getting used to, however I have it down now and am loving it! My favorite way of using the WS is with the glass dd stem and the new titanium tip, I prefer the nylon dd stem with the Underdog, and get a similar but not so restrictive draw as the WS, and am loving that also! My prior preference was vaping through glass, but I'm actually enjoy the dd stems more. I do not prefer one over the other, they both heat up relatively quickly, all components are super easy to clean, and both offer great customer support.
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If you haven’t picked one up already for your WS, you might enjoy this from @Ed's TnT

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WoodScents Thermal Extraction Chamber

WoodScents Thermal Extraction Chamber
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pomogirl

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attackpoints said:
I'll send another email to Alan to see if he has anything available. I asked to be added weeks ago and definitely don't remember if I asked about anything in stock. :lol:

Thank you guys for the help!
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I got one of Alan's Toasty Tops in stock, and it's beautiful. And I'm on his list for a HI too, I think.

Oh, I didn't see that was back to back--sorry!
 
coolbreeze

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Camouflet Convectors make nice herb chambers for CouchLogs and Woodscents:
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GoldenBud said:
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When I first looked at the Amazon page, I thought it said SHITPWR (Shit Power) :-)

I have a Solo3 that I use in the garage (no in-house vaping) with a water pipe/bong (what's the right word for this now-a-days?). I smoke maybe .1g, once or twice a day. I think a ball vape would be too much for me, even a Pinch Hitter or ZX. While I'm happy with the Solo3, well, VAS! So a Log Vape looks like it might be in the cards for me.

I've narrowed it down to usual suspects for lower dosage hits: Underdog, E-Nano, Bamboo HI. I'm leaning towards the Bamboo HI since it appears I can use my Arizer glass stem or my DynaVap. So I have a couple of questions.

1) Any issue using an Arizer Solo glass stem with the Bamboo HI? My thinking is to the the Solo's WPA
2) Can I use the Bamboo HI to heat up my DynaVap (VonG TI) as opposed to my YLL IH 2.0? Will I even need the IH anymore (other than for portability)?
3) Given that I use the solo3 upside down with a WPA and bong or sherlock glass, how much different is one of these log vapes gonna really be?
 
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