Volcano

[SecureSwede]

Very strange, I always find I get much more dense bags with less material using my solid valve. I packed a .45g bowl in my ez valve set up and got great bags but when I did the same for the solid valve the vapor was extremely more dense.

 

[Linard]

Volcanos are wonderful. I can't understand all the hate for them. Had a few people over and enjoyed blowing balloons for them. They were all impressed with the volcano and we all got baked. The machine rocks and is simply the best bag blower out there not to mention the solid valve system is WONDERFUL.

 

[Jman5280]

I'm thinking about looking under the hood for the first time after seeing videos of all the debris that makes it inside the volcano...

Is it typical, like in some of the YouTube videos, to find piles of ABV all over the guts inside the unit?

I don't see how ABV falls down that way, unless it's falling out of the chamber...but wouldn't that fall into the air path and be blown out?

 

[DoubleVanos]

Volcanos are wonderful. I can't understand all the hate for them. Had a few people over and enjoyed blowing balloons for them. They were all impressed with the volcano and we all got baked. The machine rocks and is simply the best bag blower out there not to mention the solid valve system is WONDERFUL.

I've tried 5 different vapes, 3 of which I own. So far nothing can get me as medicated as the Cano gram for gram. The crafty comes close. I have to say that I absolutely love my Cano.

The one type of Vape I haven't tried is a log Vape. Those underdogs look very tempting and I've heard they are crazy efficient. Can't be spending any more $$ right now, so ill have to be patient.

 

[SecureSwede]

I've tried 5 different vapes, 3 of which I own. So far nothing can get me as medicated as the Cano gram for gram. The crafty comes close. I have to say that I absolutely love my Cano.

The one type of Vape I haven't tried is a log Vape. Those underdogs look very tempting and I've heard they are crazy efficient. Can't be spending any more $$ right now, so ill have to be patient.

As someone who has a log vape and the cano I will admit that the cano does a much better job at getting me medicated. I have a nano and even when bumping the temp up I can't get as medicated with the Volcano. I use my nano for efficiency if I want a solid high but for late night I turn on my volcano and really get medicated.

 

[I.b.vaping]

As someone who has a log vape and the cano I will admit that the cano does a much better job at getting me medicated. I have a nano and even when bumping the temp up I can't get as medicated with the Volcano. I use my nano for efficiency if I want a solid high but for late night I turn on my volcano and really get medicated.

What temperature do you got too?

 

[DoubleVanos]

As someone who has a log vape and the cano I will admit that the cano does a much better job at getting me medicated. I have a nano and even when bumping the temp up I can't get as medicated with the Volcano. I use my nano for efficiency if I want a solid high but for late night I turn on my volcano and really get medicated.

I feel each vape I've tried has offered a different experience and a different high. I enjoy switching between them to change it up. I think this log type looks like a great addition. Nice to hear the opinion of another cano user on that. Now back to the topic at hand,

I love my Volcano!

 

[Jman5280]

Anyone got any input on this?

Is it typical, like in some of the YouTube videos, to find piles of ABV all over the guts inside the unit?

I don't see how ABV falls down that way, unless it's falling out of the chamber...but wouldn't that fall into the air path and be blown out?

 

[grokit]

Abv is like glitter, it goes where it wants to!

 

[SecureSwede]

As someone who has a log vape and the cano I will admit that the cano does a much better job at getting me medicated. I have a nano and even when bumping the temp up I can't get as medicated with the Volcano. I use my nano for efficiency if I want a solid high but for late night I turn on my volcano and really get medicated.

I pushed my nano up to 8 with a huge bowl and still couldnt achieve the high I get from a volcano. The best way I can explain it is the nano will get you really high, but it won't give you that super stoney feeling. I can get blazed off the nano but I cant get so high that I will start falling asleep out of no where... weird as that sounds

 

[DoubleVanos]

Anyone got any input on this?

Is it typical, like in some of the YouTube videos, to find piles of ABV all over the guts inside the unit?

I don't see how ABV falls down that way, unless it's falling out of the chamber...but wouldn't that fall into the air path and be blown out?

I've turned my Cano upside down every once in a while and lightly tap it, sometimes quite a bit of abv falls out. I'll prob open it up someday, and give it a good cleaning, but I really doubt that any thing is getting in that air path, it looks completely sealed off, except for the intake on the bottom.

Abv is like glitter, it goes where it wants to!

Exactly!

 

[Jman5280]

I've turned my Cano upside down every once in a while and lightly tap it, sometimes quite a bit of abv falls out. I'll prob open it up someday, and give it a good cleaning, but I really doubt that any thing is getting in that air path, it looks completely sealed off, except for the intake on the bottom.



Exactly!

I just wonder how that ABV is getting there...I doubt most of us are sprinkling ABV over the top of the Volcano. How does all this ABV get blown into the Volcano over time?

Also, do you cover yours when not in use?

 

[Vitolo]

Over time the solid AND EZ valve drop a crumb or two of ABV.
A crumb daily adds up to a small amount of abv in the units base, after time.
This does not affect performance since the ABV is then enclosed in an area that never sees heat directly, and does not cause trouble with air path in any way.
People clean out this ABV to keep the unit in good shape, but it is not necessary for unit's function.
It is akin to vacuuming out the dust and dirt from the trunk of your car.

 

[I.b.vaping]

Over time the solid AND EZ valve drop a crumb or two of ABV.
A crumb daily adds up to a small amount of abv in the units base, after time.
This does not affect performance since the ABV is then enclosed in an area that never sees heat directly, and does not cause trouble with air path in any way.
People clean out this ABV to keep the unit in good shape, but it is not necessary for unit's function.
It is akin to vacuuming out the dust and dirt from the trunk of your car.

Exactly what I have found!

 

[Jman5280]

Over time the solid AND EZ valve drop a crumb or two of ABV.
A crumb daily adds up to a small amount of abv in the units base, after time.
This does not affect performance since the ABV is then enclosed in an area that never sees heat directly, and does not cause trouble with air path in any way.
People clean out this ABV to keep the unit in good shape, but it is not necessary for unit's function.
It is akin to vacuuming out the dust and dirt from the trunk of your car.

Good to know! Thanks V! I noticed if I don't shut off the fan before the bag over inflates, that air is blown back through the bottom...perhaps this is another culprit of why ABV escapes!

Edit - I just had the top of my herb chamber spin off and ABV went everywhere all over the unit! That will add to it too!

 

[DoubleVanos]

I just wonder how that ABV is getting there...I doubt most of us are sprinkling ABV over the top of the Volcano. How does all this ABV get blown into the Volcano over time?

Also, do you cover yours when not in use?

When I first turn the fan on to fill a bag, I'll usually wait till I see visible vapour before clipping the bag on the oven. Usually about 3-5 seconds. During this time Ive always noticed that the initial burst of hot air, spews a bit of either ABV or tiny bits of fresh herb into the air and all around the table it sits on. Over time this builds up. Changing over to the fine screens helped quite a bit.

I had my Cano sitting on a white/glass table for years, and it's quite surprising how much ABV it spews(kinda like a volcano) in just a week of regular usage. I had to clean that table a lot, lol.

It is akin to vacuuming out the dust and dirt from the trunk of your car.

Yup, good way of putting it.

 

[lazylathe]

My volcano should be arriving on Monday!!! Traded for my EVO!

Any tips for getting that perfect bag?
I ordered an easy valve kit for it.

This thread is soooooooo quiet! Hopefully I will be here often enough to keep it alive!

Watched a few videos already and will finish this thread on the weekend! First few pages really have no user info...

Saw a video of it connected directly to a bubbler! Looks like I will be having fun soon!!!

 

[DoubleVanos]

@lazylathe
Congrats on your soon to arrive purchase. The volcano is an Epic Vape, and one of the best electronic devices I have bought period.

You will like figure out your own methods of using it. On the Classic my favourite temp is between 6 and 7. I grind up about .3grams and this takes up a depth of 1cm or so on my solid valve. I get about 5 THICK bags, stirring the herbs on bag 3. Using at higher temps , and the vapour is almost choking in thickness, the bags look like they're filled with milk, lol.

This Vape is very easy , and super consistent in use. You will get great bags everytime, depending on the herb quality afcourse.

 

[lazylathe]

@DoubleVanos

Thanks for the tips!!
Medical user here, so top shelf herb all the time!!!

Will report back after the first session!

 

[Vitolo]

I have posted in the past that I change my EZ Valve bags once a year.
That means I build a new "BIG" bag, and start a new regular sized EZ Valve bag into daily usage.
I recycle and get the goods out of the old bags, and where applicable pass the cleaned used bags along when not damaged.
Procedure is at
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/volcano.220/page-45#post-550843
The actual giant bag construction procedure is at:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/volcano.220/page-46#post-569774
Back then I had never cleaned my actual EZ Valve, and after 3 years I found quite a large amount of buildup:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/volcano.220/page-46#post-571059
These days, I clean the valve and change the bags out at the same time.
A yearly ritual that I can live with, considering the impunity with which I push Volcano to it's limits much of the time.
Today I decided to tackle the job once again, as I see tiny wisps of vapor along the outside of my bags... coming from microscopic holes unseen to the naked eye, in areas where the condensates gather.
They harden to the consistency of a thin layer of hard candy when the bags cool.
If a user handles the bags a great deal when the bags are rich in sublimate coating then the layers, like candy will crack and break.
This is the same as candy on cellophane... which when cracked often makes the same small tears in the cellophane that I mention, although the Volcano bags being stronger take longer to damage.
I handle the older bags gently when they are well coated, to prevent this.
Sooner or later it starts to happen, and I have found that to be at about the one year point for me.
Here is what the bags look like after I popped off the mouthpieces:

Above: I will not be recycling the regular Volcano Bag, as it shows signs of wear.
The long bag will get cleaned and trimmed, and given as a spare to a local patient that
had requested a giant bag like this.

Above: Longer home-made bag is on the left.

Above: You can see that my home made bag (now on the right) lacks the perfect evenness of
"spread" where I bunched and distributed the bag material. Their bag's excess looks
almost like a flower in it's symmetry.. something I hope to do better at this time.

*On an aside note, I was able to re-use the same thin coated wire I used the last time.. while a bit worn it seems OK for the job.
The two images below are from last years "build"... showing the wire I was able to re-use this time around.

All deleted images here can be seen at:
http://s1132.photobucket.com/user/VitoloVaporizes/library/Volcano?sort=3&page=1

 

[StickyShisha2]

i replaced a few bags recently. In the past, i had trouble getting those apart without damaging the rubber flap valve in the middle. this time I removed them first.
Things went very smoothly. All of them have very even spread, no bunching. I used a wooden clothes pin to hold the rest of the bag in place as i adjusted the pleats under the black O-ring.

 

[I.b.vaping]

@DoubleVanos

Thanks for the tips!!
Medical user here, so top shelf herb all the time!!!

Will report back after the first session!

Hey lazylathe congrats on your new purchase! Hope you enjoy, was wondering do you have a minivap also?

 

[olivianewtonjohn]

I'm thinking about looking under the hood for the first time after seeing videos of all the debris that makes it inside the volcano...

Is it typical, like in some of the YouTube videos, to find piles of ABV all over the guts inside the unit?

I don't see how ABV falls down that way, unless it's falling out of the chamber...but wouldn't that fall into the air path and be blown out?

I wouldnt worry about it. I bought a used unit that had alot of build up in the valve and on top of the unit. I opened it up and there wasnt much inside

As someone who has a log vape and the cano I will admit that the cano does a much better job at getting me medicated. I have a nano and even when bumping the temp up I can't get as medicated with the Volcano. I use my nano for efficiency if I want a solid high but for late night I turn on my volcano and really get medicated.

I've tried 5 different vapes, 3 of which I own. So far nothing can get me as medicated as the Cano gram for gram. The crafty comes close. I have to say that I absolutely love my Cano.

The one type of Vape I haven't tried is a log Vape. Those underdogs look very tempting and I've heard they are crazy efficient. Can't be spending any more $$ right now, so ill have to be patient.

Interesting. Cant say my experience has been the same. I will test more with the cano vs nano and get back here. Maybe its just preference between vape signatures. Dont get me wrong I love the cano but think the nano does the job on much less herb. Effect is different thats forsure. More testing

 

[Jman5280]

I am noticing the dial on my classic is no longer turning smoothly between 6-9, but between 1-6 the dial turns smoothly like new. I'm thinking his must be because I only ever use the dial between 6-9, so it may be wearing down.

Is this something I can fix? I heard the dials can be removed and placed back on...I wonder if it needs some lubricant or something.

*i can hear a screeching metal sound when I turn the dial. I may just have to keep the classic on 6.5 all the time, and cook with the rest...

 

[h3rbalist]

So the silent bags from ebay are great. No additional taste, so far so good.




Fixes one of the two only issues I have with my Volcano, the other being that my herb chamber opens occasionally when filling a balloon. Usually because I have not closed it properly.