Volcano

[h3rbalist]

Anyone ever used one of these: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=281468454537 ?

I'm umming and erring about making the purchase.

I have heard bad things mate. Too heavy, a bastard to clean... ect. But there is a german guy on ebay selling quiet volcano bag material for 20 bux. When the stuff I have runs out, I will be getting some of that.

 

[Linard]

How do you clean such a bag like that?

 

[I.b.vaping]

Anyone ever used one of these: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=281468454537 ?

I'm umming and erring about making the purchase.

No but I do use super quiet bags I got from eBay! Loads quieter and make any size bag

 

[Poostuff]

Just read an article on VXL, and saw this and wanted to know if there was any truth to it? I always knew there was some aluminum in the Cano, but never enough to warranty any concern."

Are you stirring the pot? Hey what about the bad smell you get using the Volcano inverted, wait am I doing it wrong.

 

[Stu]

Are you stirring the pot? Hey what about the bad smell you get using the Volcano inverted, wait am I doing it wrong.

From a few posts up:

EDIT: SM55 retorted that the article took his words out of context. Typical media. Shit disturbers.

Let's move on.

 

[Poostuff]

So moving on I'll add that the Volcano is one of the most reliable electronic devices I've ever owned, it's always consistent & I've never regretted buying it.

 

[DorianGray]

i've never checked the air filter under the volcano. It's been about 3 years of almost daily use, I wonder what ill find down there, maybe a a magical fairy

I've used my shop vac to suck up dust through the top, it works well.

 

[Linard]

It sure is a pain to clean the solid valve system. Did my first clean a couple of days ago.

 

[zor]

It shouldn't be too much of a pain but I guess it depends on your past experience. I just cleaned my solid valve yesterday - disassembled as much as I could (the herb chamber gets gunked up and doesn't unscrew easily until I soak it) and let the parts soak in 91% ISO for about an hour. Had to scrub one of the rings on the tamper but otherwise everything else was clean after a quick shake and rinse under water.

 

[Linard]

I guess I am use to my HA....2 parts to clean...thanks...peace out!

 

[SecureSwede]

Well I packed a bowl on my easy valve today, made three bags going from 6.5 - 7 - 8, and then I noticed my avb wasnt really as dark as I wanted. I put in my liquid pad on top of the herb and damn it blew out bags that were much denser than before. I think packing down the weed and keeping it in place helps a lot with vaping it more thoroughly. Might be something to try if you want to get thicker bags .

I think its been recommended before but oh well might as well bring it up again.

 

[DoubleVanos]

Well I packed a bowl on my easy valve today, made three bags going from 6.5 - 7 - 8, and then I noticed my avb wasnt really as dark as I wanted. I put in my liquid pad on top of the herb and damn it blew out bags that were much denser than before. I think packing down the weed and keeping it in place helps a lot with vaping it more thoroughly. Might be something to try if you want to get thicker bags .

I think its been recommended before but oh well might as well bring it up again.

Hmmm... I will give this a shot. Thanks for the tip!

 

[Poostuff]

I've tried that but in my opinion the thickest vapor is found with a full pack. Not overflowing but a full bowl with a little room left for heat expansion, that's where the Volcano kicks ass. If you only want to use a small load there are other vaporizers better for that.

 

[I.b.vaping]

I've tried that but in my opinion the thickest vapor is found with a full pack. Not overflowing but a full bowl with a little room left for heat expansion, that's where the Volcano kicks ass. If you only want to use a small load there are other vaporizers better for that.

Full load all the way for me!

 

[Jman5280]

i've never checked the air filter under the volcano. It's been about 3 years of almost daily use, I wonder what ill find down there, maybe a a magical fairy

I've used my shop vac to suck up dust through the top, it works well.

Great idea on the shop vac! Do you remove the top ever?

I have never opened and cleaned mine, but I have seen units with very heavy use that have tons of debris under the hood.

Question: Who covers their volcano when not in use to keep dust out? I always figured that turning the volcano air pump on for a minute before each session would probably clean out any dust that would have end up inside the unit (and possibly be pumped into the bag and inhaled).

The other option would be to cover the Volcano when not using it, but I'm usually always using it, or when I put it away it's still too hot...so it usually sits out in the open when not in use.

Oops, I meant to have this be all one post combined with the one above. I'm sorry about back to back posts! Modnote: posts merged.

It sure is a pain to clean the solid valve system. Did my first clean a couple of days ago.

Get the easy valve...so much easier.

Well I packed a bowl on my easy valve today, made three bags going from 6.5 - 7 - 8, and then I noticed my avb wasnt really as dark as I wanted. I put in my liquid pad on top of the herb and damn it blew out bags that were much denser than before. I think packing down the weed and keeping it in place helps a lot with vaping it more thoroughly. Might be something to try if you want to get thicker bags .

I think its been recommended before but oh well might as well bring it up again.

I don't use the liquid pad, but with smaller loads I pack the herb tightly so it's not as loose, similar to what the liquid pad would achieve. I get very dense vapor in my bags = massive clouds.

What works for me is that I stir every two bags, and I can get 5-7 good bags per load, regardless if the chamber is half full or full. It's all about making sure it's packed down good!

 

[Vitolo]

I've tried that but in my opinion the thickest vapor is found with a full pack. Not overflowing but a full bowl with a little room left for heat expansion, that's where the Volcano kicks ass. If you only want to use a small load there are other vaporizers better for that.

Full load all the way for me!

I'm in the full chamber club too.
My Volcano EZ valve chamber gets loosely filled to the brim, then I use a stir tool to make my load even...so it can be easily closed.

Question: Who covers their volcano when not in use to keep dust out?

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[Jman5280]

Even if dust gets in, the volcanos air path isn't getting dust in it right? From my understanding the air path is entirely separate and closed off with the exception of the intake under the base.

 

[Vitolo]

The very dead center screen, before you put on your basket/chamber/valve... is the very top of the air path.. and yes- dust can easily settle right there.., unless you leave a valve on the unit 24/7.
The filter at the bottom is to prevent dust that may be on a counter from going in and passing the fan. They are protecting the motor and bearings on that fan from dust going upwards beyond the fan etc... is the column of forced hot air.. that is the air path.
Some dust then does in the initial seconds of a subsequent filling can rise, and get stuck to the bags inner walls (due to tackiness).. and will not be seen easily by unaided vision.
A Vapor's "Air Path" refers more appropriately to the tube, channel, or pipe that transfers vapor into our mouth/lungs.
That being said, in the case of the Volcano.. the air path would be a bag made of inert and safe plastic...
and because it itself is a bag of vapor, it is also free of dust.

*interesting note.....
once a bag becomes old (I use mine for about a year), if it goes unused for a time, and then gets back into circulation....said bag will start flaking off tiny glittery chips/shards of dried sublimate, that while flavorful and effective to vape.... are distracting when tiny bits go in the mouth. (Easy cure is to hold a very "loaded" EZ Valve bag mouthpiece upwards toward sky while hitting it)

...........Bag Shards from a well used Volcano Bag

 

[DorianGray]

Great idea on the shop vac! Do you remove the top ever?

I have never opened and cleaned mine, but I have seen units with very heavy use that have tons of debris under the hood.

Question: Who covers their volcano when not in use to keep dust out? I always figured that turning the volcano air pump on for a minute before each session would probably clean out any dust that would have end up inside the unit (and possibly be pumped into the bag and inhaled).

The other option would be to cover the Volcano when not using it, but I'm usually always using it, or when I put it away it's still too hot...so it usually sits out in the open when not in use.

Oops, I meant to have this be all one post combined with the one above. I'm sorry about back to back posts! Modnote: posts merged.



Get the easy valve...so much easier.



I don't use the liquid pad, but with smaller loads I pack the herb tightly so it's not as loose, similar to what the liquid pad would achieve. I get very dense vapor in my bags = massive clouds.

What works for me is that I stir every two bags, and I can get 5-7 good bags per load, regardless if the chamber is half full or full. It's all about making sure it's packed down good!

no, I have never removed anything on my volcano.

and to get the most dense vapour I have found that using the metal puck works best whether you fill the chamber or not. I get less bag refills with the puck but each bag is thicker vapour, especially the first bag.

My bags only last me 3-4 months, then there is usually a leak or something but maybe thats because I'm a little careless when I handle them.

vitolo, it sounds from your posts like you are THE volcano master. your knowledge is much appreciated. *volcano high five*

 

[Jman5280]

The very dead center screen, before you put on your basket/chamber/valve... is the very top of the air path.. and yes- dust can easily settle right there.., unless you leave a valve on the unit 24/7.
The filter at the bottom is to prevent dust that may be on a counter from going in and passing the fan. They are protecting the motor and bearings on that fan from dust going upwards beyond the fan etc... is the column of forced hot air.. that is the air path.
Some dust then does in the initial seconds of a subsequent filling can rise, and get stuck to the bags inner walls (due to tackiness).. and will not be seen easily by unaided vision.
A Vapor's "Air Path" refers more appropriately to the tube, channel, or pipe that transfers vapor into our mouth/lungs.
That being said, in the case of the Volcano.. the air path would be a bag made of inert and safe plastic...
and because it itself is a bag of vapor, it is also free of dust.

*interesting note.....
once a bag becomes old (I use mine for about a year), if it goes unused for a time, and then gets back into circulation....said bag will start flaking off tiny glittery chips/shards of dried sublimate, that while flavorful and effective to vape.... are distracting when tiny bits go in the mouth. (Easy cure is to hold a very "loaded" EZ Valve bag upwards toward sky while hitting it)

...........Bag Shards from a well used Volcano Bag

Do you think letting the air pump run for a few minutes before each use is enough to clear any dust that settled on top?

I use mine daily so it sits out open all day , and I usually just turn it on for a few seconds first to blow dust out...now I wonder if I should be covering it?

The way I see it, we are breathing in dust everyday, so how bad can this be? Also, when it's on and being used, it can't be covered and dust is settling during that time too.

It may be possible for dust that did settle on top to find it's way into the bag, but it would be unlikely for it to make it out the bag into your lungs without sticking to the walls of the bag first I'm guessing...

Interesting note about those plastic shards, I've never seen this or heard of it. Are you saying that this plastic is safe to be inhaling?

 

[DoubleVanos]

Hmm seems like most on here are EZ valve fans. I actually love cleaning the solid valve. I take my time and disassemble it, almost like a ritual to me. I use it fairly heavily, so like kolila, my bags last 2-3 months before it develops a few leaks. There's nothing like the taste of a fresh new bag.

I'm curious how much you guys are loading in the ovens, ez or solid. They actually differ quite a bit. I've never gone above a cm or so of ground herb in the solid valve. This equates to .3 g at the most. I get about 6 nice bags. I start my temps about 6 and end up at 7. I actually get about 4 nice thick bags when using about .1g. I'm not a fan of the taste when it gets too wispy, so my cano abv never gets too dark.

 

[Vitolo]

Interesting note about those plastic shards, I've never seen this or heard of it. Are you saying that this plastic is safe to be inhaling?

Please re-read my post.
I never hinted that the shards were plastic.
The shards are chips of THC... vape condensate.... sublimate.

it can't be covered and dust is settling during that time too.

It can be covered. That is the point of this: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/volcano.220/page-46#post-557170

 

[I.b.vaping]

Hmm seems like most on here are EZ valve fans. I actually love cleaning the solid valve. I take my time and disassemble it, almost like a ritual to me. I use it fairly heavily, so like kolila, my bags last 2-3 months before it develops a few leaks. There's nothing like the taste of a fresh new bag.

I'm curious how much you guys are loading in the ovens, ez or solid. They actually differ quite a bit. I've never gone above a cm or so of ground herb in the solid valve. This equates to .3 g at the most. I get about 6 nice bags. I start my temps about 6 and end up at 7. I actually get about 4 nice thick bags when using about .1g. I'm not a fan of the taste when it gets too wispy, so my cano abv never gets too dark.

I've got both ez valve and solid and I prefer the solid! Just feels like quality, I use ez when friends are around! We can all have our own mouthpiece and it doesn't matter if they drop it!

 

[Jman5280]

Please re-read my post.
I never hinted that the shards were plastic.
The shards are chips of THC... vape condensate.... sublimate.

It can be covered. That is the point of this: http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/volcano.220/page-46#post-557170

I understand that it covers it when it's not being used. My point was that it can't be covered while it's being used, therefore during that time it is being used dust is likely settling on the unit.

That dust could then be blown up into the chamber, into the bag, and inhaled. However, that would be very unlikely due to the sticky walls inside the bag, and because it would have to pass through the herb chamber.

All of this is moot because we probably breathe in more dust than whatever dust might make it into the bag. I guess covering the unit might help the lifespan of your unit? That's about the only benefit I can think of...

I would like to cover my unit, but I don't have the patience. Since the Volcano stays really hot, for like 30 minutes after it shuts down, I wouldn't put a plastic cover on until it cooled down. This is why I usually just leave mine uncovered, because if I'm at home it's usually always on, and if I'm leaving I don't have time to wait until it cools to cover it!

 

[Vitolo]

I have both and use both, but enjoy the EZ Valve more.
It is not just the facility with which it functions and cleans.. I get thicker denser bags of vapor when I pack and use the EZ Valve well.

I cover my unit as I shut it (at 377º) and walk away.
The plastic cap has not suffered.
I think regardless it is fine to never cover unit and use it with impunity!
Dust is everywhere and it is not a great hazard.