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I don't own a Venty but this has NOT been my experience with the Solo at all. I can have long sessions with great flavor.The solo tastes fresh the first hit, followed by hay taste the rest of the session.
I don't own a Venty but this has NOT been my experience with the Solo at all. I can have long sessions with great flavor.The solo tastes fresh the first hit, followed by hay taste the rest of the session.
I own both and my experience with the Solo matches yours.I don't own a Venty but this has NOT been my experience with the Solo at all. I can have long sessions with great flavor.
Yes. It took me a few rounds before it was done but everything is OK. I really like that the boost does not time out. It did flash a grey EO4 while I was doing it, not sure why.Has anyone updated to the new firmware?
I own both and my experience with the Solo matches yours.
Yes. It took me a few rounds before it was done but everything is OK. I really like that the boost does not time out. It did flash a grey EO4 while I was doing it, not sure why.
I agree that for use outside and group sharing the venty is usually the better option. Especially using the dosing caps. When I say the venty was shelved it is because my use case has been mostly alone and indoors. The wand+tempest in a small waist bag also is quite portable, but not really shareable.I think I went with (and love) the Venty for logistical reasons: it's super easy to use, there's no glass to carry around, and it's foolproof for sharing. I'll (almost) always go Tempest / TA / Tornado at home by myself, but Venty wins the reach test 100% of the time away from home or passing around.
Wanted to share my setup:
- blackwood MVS stem
- Simrell XL condenser
- XL intercooler
- spinning components (valve + bearing + retaining ring)
- DV wooden mouthpiece + condenser x-ring
- Simrell adapter (VGoodiEZ adapter works as well)
- 5.5 x 1mm FKM o-rings
The condenser, spinning components, and mouthpiece stay fixed in place while the adapter and stem move with the device, so you can flutter the airport one-handed by slightly twisting back and forth while drawing
The wood doesn't get hot (I find metal, plastic, and glass all build up heat and transfer it to the lips during back-to-back sessions), and the intercooler and airport help cool the vapor further
I ended up needing the smaller o-rings because the connection between the adapter and stem was too tight and was shredding the standard o-rings (also the case for one of two VGEZ adapters I bought)
It took a few iterations (and I had to deburr the metal sleeve on the inside of the stem), but it was well worth all the futzing around
Just mad accusation I decided to wake up and sabotage my buttons? TWICE, within the space of a year? If you read my posts I actually rate the device very highly, just quite clear materials used are worse than previous devicesSorry to be honest but this seems like sabotage...
That’s what I assumed initially, heat damage. But like you said, the buttons are not even close to hot areas and the device is never even hot to hold anywhere aside from the oven directlyThat looks to be heat damage and it is not very close to the oven. I hold my Venty there and it barely gets got enough to melt butter let alone rubber. If the oven is hot enough to do that, I'd expect it to combust anything actually in the oven. Curious.
That doesn't seem heat damage at all to me. I don't see any melted rubber, discoloration, deformation. If that rubber sleeve was melted I think that under that sleeve the internals would have been even more damaged and the unit would stink to the point it wouldn't have been usable. Probably that sort of filament coming out of the "+" button would have melted if it was heat damage.That looks to be heat damage and it is not very close to the oven. I hold my Venty there and it barely gets got enough to melt butter let alone rubber. If the oven is hot enough to do that, I'd expect it to combust anything actually in the oven. Curious.
Was it at bedtime?Just mad accusation I decided to wake up and sabotage my buttons?
I do not think the reference was to you doing the sabotage.Just mad accusation I decided to wake up and sabotage my buttons?
It’s not mechanical stress when I don’t use 66% of the buttons. Mechanical stress that didn’t apply to any previous S&B device with considerably more use time each. Interesting…That doesn't seem heat damage at all to me. I don't see any melted rubber, discoloration, deformation. If that rubber sleeve was melted I think that under that sleeve the internals would have been even more damaged and the unit would stink to the point it wouldn't have been usable. Probably that sort of filament coming out of the "+" button would have melted if it was heat damage.
He uses the thing 3 hours a day straight and that's mechanic stress.
I may also sit on my couch 3 hours, see a movie along with my Venty, but I'd do a few sessions that would last 5 minutes each not half an hour each or the whole movie sipping: that's what he does everyday. His average time with his Venty switched on is 2/3 hours per day.
He does those loong sessions everyday (or a million of short ones fwiw), a dozen time a day, and during those sessions he probably clicks those buttons every couple of minutes to let his Venty on, that's why the buttons look like that. He probably has to charge his Venty 3/4 times a day since I have 1/4 of his hour count and charge it once per day. That's a Venty that gets used "a lot" and it should be considered. They will probably change that rubber sleeve sooner or later? In the mean time that's an easy way to get RMA when the time comes.
I was going to shake your hand, but now I'm having second thoughts..It’s not mechanical stress when I don’t use 66% of the buttons. Mechanical stress that didn’t apply to any previous S&B device with considerably more use time each. Interesting…
I don’t know why you keep referring to ‘use’ of a product and frame it in a way that I am jabba the hut. Literally get home from work and turn on for 30-40 min sessions, 2-3 times per evening
It’s not material fatigue as I’ve said to one of your posts before, I’ve specifically only ever used one button to keep on, ever since the first ones fell apart.
Have owned 5 S&B devices portable and desktop, it’s not unreasonable to say the build quality, and materials used, that have clearly differed from previous devices, is worse. Use time aside, or even if in your scenario I pressed 1000 times a day, it’s a £400 device, should be able to handle basic functions repeatedly for more than 3 months. Will be interested to see how many more come here with same issue, it will be many.
At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality. I know which is more likely
What we do agree on, is that overall it’s a minor issue with RMAs in place. The device in carrying out its purpose, is fantastic
you are rightI do not think the reference was to you doing the sabotage.
maybe some cream you use on your hands?At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality.
I think I asked him that when he originally posted about it.. he said nothing out of the ordinary..you are right
maybe some cream you use on your hands?
Really does look like the damage I’d see to heavily used silicone membranes as a kid. Silicone/rubber likes to absorb oil so I assume the cheaper material + the extreme usage is probably causing the material to soften and warp and get smooshed into the gaps in the case. Weird to see it in a modern device, but definitely agree it’s probably something on your hands that’s causing this.At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality. I know which is more likely
You are of course entitled to use your Venty as much as you like but in the above post you state of having put 500 hours spread on two Venty units. Another post here states you put 257 hours on your current unit, in 4 months. 257 hrs spread in 120 days means the average is 2,14 hours. This means if one day you didn't use it, the day after you put more than 4 hours on it. If you compare the build quality of the Venty to DHGate stuff, can I say I think your use case scenario is a bit extreme for any battery portable? Just to help keeping things in perspective.I’ve had two so far each with 250+ hours use. One at launch from S&B direct, next was a replacement 4 months later due to buttons. Never had an E04 or anything terminal, just buttons all wearing away, both times. Rubber is of incomparable standard vs Mighty and Mighty+.
What’s most surprising is that the second device I have specifically only used the power button to turn on and keep on, draw detection doesn’t ever pick up unless CU is open and I don’t like that airy experience, yet even still the temperature buttons have also warped and the temp. down is now lodged in. Something happens to the rubber with heat imo. Need an rma but pain to send back and wait a week or two, for not my fault. Buttons will only fail again until they change something and every replacement will be an E04 gamble by the looks of it. I’ve heard suggestions of oil or similar reacting to the button material but I literally work in an office, have no abnormalities and have 2 x Mightys that have stood a much longer test of time with new looking buttons to this day. My theory is that the material selected is not heat resistant, I base that only on experience as electrician and cable sheath material differences in rubber, not science. No idea as S&B won’t send anything not generic in RMA procedure
Minor but not good enough with price, buttons have been around for a long time and surprised they got that wrong.
With regards to a refund that’s the only thing S&B actually addressed when I enquired about the issues, and it was a swift no.
It’s not mechanical stress when I don’t use 66% of the buttons. Mechanical stress that didn’t apply to any previous S&B device with considerably more use time each. Interesting…
I don’t know why you keep referring to ‘use’ of a product and frame it in a way that I am jabba the hut. Literally get home from work and turn on for 30-40 min sessions, 2-3 times per evening
It’s not material fatigue as I’ve said to one of your posts before, I’ve specifically only ever used one button to keep on, ever since the first ones fell apart.
Have owned 5 S&B devices portable and desktop, it’s not unreasonable to say the build quality, and materials used, that have clearly differed from previous devices, is worse. Use time aside, or even if in your scenario I pressed 1000 times a day, it’s a £400 device, should be able to handle basic functions repeatedly for more than 3 months. Will be interested to see how many more come here with same issue, it will be many.
At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality. I know which is more likely
What we do agree on, is that overall it’s a minor issue with RMAs in place. The device in carrying out its purpose, is fantastic
Had the same experience. Kept disconnecting during the update and at least once I got an E04 for a split second (and my heart dropped for a moment!). Finally completed the update on my fourth try.I own both and my experience with the Solo matches yours.
Yes. It took me a few rounds before it was done but everything is OK. I really like that the boost does not time out. It did flash a grey EO4 while I was doing it, not sure why.
Nice job, been hoping that 90 second “boost” limit would get fixed, better late then never….
Would be nice if S&B sent emails out to us registered users ALERTING us when new firmware updates are released, and the standard “update log”!