Venty by Storz & Bickel

SockPuppetTheatrics

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I think I went with (and love) the Venty for logistical reasons: it's super easy to use, there's no glass to carry around, and it's foolproof for sharing. I'll (almost) always go Tempest / TA / Tornado at home by myself, but Venty wins the reach test 100% of the time away from home or passing around.

Wanted to share my setup:

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- blackwood MVS stem
- Simrell XL condenser
- XL intercooler
- spinning components (valve + bearing + retaining ring)
- DV wooden mouthpiece + condenser x-ring
- Simrell adapter (VGoodiEZ adapter works as well)
- 5.5 x 1mm FKM o-rings

The condenser, spinning components, and mouthpiece stay fixed in place while the adapter and stem move with the device, so you can flutter the airport one-handed by slightly twisting back and forth while drawing

The wood doesn't get hot (I find metal, plastic, and glass all build up heat and transfer it to the lips during back-to-back sessions), and the intercooler and airport help cool the vapor further

I ended up needing the smaller o-rings because the connection between the adapter and stem was too tight and was shredding the standard o-rings (also the case for one of two VGEZ adapters I bought)

It took a few iterations (and I had to deburr the metal sleeve on the inside of the stem), but it was well worth all the futzing around
 

chillAtGVC

Well-Known Member
I don't own a Venty but this has NOT been my experience with the Solo at all. I can have long sessions with great flavor.
I own both and my experience with the Solo matches yours.

Has anyone updated to the new firmware?
Yes. It took me a few rounds before it was done but everything is OK. I really like that the boost does not time out. It did flash a grey EO4 while I was doing it, not sure why.
 
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RustyOldNail

SEARCH for the treasure...
I own both and my experience with the Solo matches yours.


Yes. It took me a few rounds before it was done but everything is OK. I really like that the boost does not time out. It did flash a grey EO4 while I was doing it, not sure why.

Latest firmware…..
If you don’t “draw” any air during your boosted session, you will get the same multiple vibration warnings you get when you’re at your non-boost “base line” temperature. The draw sensor works the same, so taking a draw before the auto shutoff takes effect, will continue your boost session. I timed a boost setting, without taking a draw, and the auto shutoff kicks in at about 2 minutes, same as baseline temp, if not drawing.

My settings continue working perfectly to get a nicely browned ABV, bowl loading as well as titanium pods:
BASE TEMP: 356f.
1st BOOST: 370f.
2nd BOOST: 385f.
(Can still manually go to 410f., if one feels the need, but that manual temperature settings will become your new baseline the next time you turn on the Venty, unless you put it back to your original baseline before shutdown, so I rarely bother to use the UP/DOWN manual buttons).
 

Corvoed

Farm Grower
Guys I'm so fucking happy about this update. I've always disliked the auto-revert feature, so them finally making it a toggle-able option was such a slam dunk for everyone on both sides, I'm glad they went through with it.

They turned my biggest gripe of the device into a non-issue. May have taken nearly a year to do so, but progress is progress
 

Postlark

Well-Known Member
I think I went with (and love) the Venty for logistical reasons: it's super easy to use, there's no glass to carry around, and it's foolproof for sharing. I'll (almost) always go Tempest / TA / Tornado at home by myself, but Venty wins the reach test 100% of the time away from home or passing around.

Wanted to share my setup:

20240923-100601.jpg


- blackwood MVS stem
- Simrell XL condenser
- XL intercooler
- spinning components (valve + bearing + retaining ring)
- DV wooden mouthpiece + condenser x-ring
- Simrell adapter (VGoodiEZ adapter works as well)
- 5.5 x 1mm FKM o-rings

The condenser, spinning components, and mouthpiece stay fixed in place while the adapter and stem move with the device, so you can flutter the airport one-handed by slightly twisting back and forth while drawing

The wood doesn't get hot (I find metal, plastic, and glass all build up heat and transfer it to the lips during back-to-back sessions), and the intercooler and airport help cool the vapor further

I ended up needing the smaller o-rings because the connection between the adapter and stem was too tight and was shredding the standard o-rings (also the case for one of two VGEZ adapters I bought)

It took a few iterations (and I had to deburr the metal sleeve on the inside of the stem), but it was well worth all the futzing around
I agree that for use outside and group sharing the venty is usually the better option. Especially using the dosing caps. When I say the venty was shelved it is because my use case has been mostly alone and indoors. The wand+tempest in a small waist bag also is quite portable, but not really shareable.
 

Adgej123

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Sorry to be honest but this seems like sabotage...:\
Just mad accusation 😂 I decided to wake up and sabotage my buttons? TWICE, within the space of a year? If you read my posts I actually rate the device very highly, just quite clear materials used are worse than previous devices

That looks to be heat damage and it is not very close to the oven. I hold my Venty there and it barely gets got enough to melt butter let alone rubber. If the oven is hot enough to do that, I'd expect it to combust anything actually in the oven. Curious.
That’s what I assumed initially, heat damage. But like you said, the buttons are not even close to hot areas and the device is never even hot to hold anywhere aside from the oven directly
 

justcametomind

Well-Known Member
That looks to be heat damage and it is not very close to the oven. I hold my Venty there and it barely gets got enough to melt butter let alone rubber. If the oven is hot enough to do that, I'd expect it to combust anything actually in the oven. Curious.
That doesn't seem heat damage at all to me. I don't see any melted rubber, discoloration, deformation. If that rubber sleeve was melted I think that under that sleeve the internals would have been even more damaged and the unit would stink to the point it wouldn't have been usable. Probably that sort of filament coming out of the "+" button would have melted if it was heat damage.
He uses the thing 3 hours a day straight and that's mechanic stress.
I may also sit on my couch 3 hours, see a movie along with my Venty, but I'd do a few sessions that would last 5 minutes each not half an hour each or the whole movie sipping: that's what he does everyday. His average time with his Venty switched on is 2/3 hours per day.
He does those loong sessions everyday (or a million of short ones fwiw), a dozen time a day, and during those sessions he probably clicks those buttons every couple of minutes to let his Venty on, that's why the buttons look like that. He probably has to charge his Venty 3/4 times a day since I have 1/4 of his hour count and charge it once per day. That's a Venty that gets used "a lot" and it should be considered. They will probably change that rubber sleeve sooner or later? In the mean time that's an easy way to get RMA when the time comes.
 
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Adgej123

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That doesn't seem heat damage at all to me. I don't see any melted rubber, discoloration, deformation. If that rubber sleeve was melted I think that under that sleeve the internals would have been even more damaged and the unit would stink to the point it wouldn't have been usable. Probably that sort of filament coming out of the "+" button would have melted if it was heat damage.
He uses the thing 3 hours a day straight and that's mechanic stress.
I may also sit on my couch 3 hours, see a movie along with my Venty, but I'd do a few sessions that would last 5 minutes each not half an hour each or the whole movie sipping: that's what he does everyday. His average time with his Venty switched on is 2/3 hours per day.
He does those loong sessions everyday (or a million of short ones fwiw), a dozen time a day, and during those sessions he probably clicks those buttons every couple of minutes to let his Venty on, that's why the buttons look like that. He probably has to charge his Venty 3/4 times a day since I have 1/4 of his hour count and charge it once per day. That's a Venty that gets used "a lot" and it should be considered. They will probably change that rubber sleeve sooner or later? In the mean time that's an easy way to get RMA when the time comes.
It’s not mechanical stress when I don’t use 66% of the buttons. Mechanical stress that didn’t apply to any previous S&B device with considerably more use time each. Interesting…

I don’t know why you keep referring to ‘use’ of a product and frame it in a way that I am jabba the hut. Literally get home from work and turn on for 30-40 min sessions, 2-3 times per evening 😂

It’s not material fatigue as I’ve said to one of your posts before, I’ve specifically only ever used one button to keep on, ever since the first ones fell apart.

Have owned 5 S&B devices portable and desktop, it’s not unreasonable to say the build quality, and materials used, that have clearly differed from previous devices, is worse. Use time aside, or even if in your scenario I pressed 1000 times a day, it’s a £400 device, should be able to handle basic functions repeatedly for more than 3 months. Will be interested to see how many more come here with same issue, it will be many.

At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality. I know which is more likely

What we do agree on, is that overall it’s a minor issue with RMAs in place. The device in carrying out its purpose, is fantastic
 
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n0tu2

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It’s not mechanical stress when I don’t use 66% of the buttons. Mechanical stress that didn’t apply to any previous S&B device with considerably more use time each. Interesting…

I don’t know why you keep referring to ‘use’ of a product and frame it in a way that I am jabba the hut. Literally get home from work and turn on for 30-40 min sessions, 2-3 times per evening 😂

It’s not material fatigue as I’ve said to one of your posts before, I’ve specifically only ever used one button to keep on, ever since the first ones fell apart.

Have owned 5 S&B devices portable and desktop, it’s not unreasonable to say the build quality, and materials used, that have clearly differed from previous devices, is worse. Use time aside, or even if in your scenario I pressed 1000 times a day, it’s a £400 device, should be able to handle basic functions repeatedly for more than 3 months. Will be interested to see how many more come here with same issue, it will be many.

At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality. I know which is more likely

What we do agree on, is that overall it’s a minor issue with RMAs in place. The device in carrying out its purpose, is fantastic
I was going to shake your hand, but now I'm having second thoughts..



j/k..
 

n0tu2

Well-Known Member
you are right

maybe some cream you use on your hands?:hmm:
I think I asked him that when he originally posted about it.. he said nothing out of the ordinary..

I feel he may be telling the truth but some use pattern/environment must be causing it? I know there are so many haters these days need to take pics with a grain of salt.. nothing stopping someone from buying one of the 1st drop bricked Ventys for 50 bucks and beating the shit out of it and then post something like: look my venty blew up! I think I've seen 3 or 4 different posts using the same E04 pic altered a little bit just to add to the 'me too' hate postings, lol.. first it was this is my 2nd venty e04 then people posting this is my 4th venty..then 6th then 8th RMA same person.. getting a little absurd..

This can be tested if someone wants to click up and down buttons for hours just to see what happens.. my buttons look brand new and I think they would look the same after 48 hours of straight clicking them.. just wind up with really sore thumbs .. dunno what's going on there..
 

Octavia

No thoughts, head empty
At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality. I know which is more likely
Really does look like the damage I’d see to heavily used silicone membranes as a kid. Silicone/rubber likes to absorb oil so I assume the cheaper material + the extreme usage is probably causing the material to soften and warp and get smooshed into the gaps in the case. Weird to see it in a modern device, but definitely agree it’s probably something on your hands that’s causing this.
 

Zuhdj

Charles Mingus
Are we still dealing with the e04 bs? I just sent in my email for this a week ago and they received it Monday. Haven't heard from them since.

Regardless, what are the chances the second one messes up too?
 

SmokeDogg

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A question to the og-bricked device owners: Does anyone feel that the exchange device(s) do not perform quite the same? I don’t know if the heating profile change to accommodate the 18650‘s max drainage over constant time (draw 10sec+) has anything to do with it. I was excited about the initial device‘s performance compared to the volcano hybrid at the same amount of material. Now it‘s just a portable again. Thoughts?
 
Approx 1 year after release. Still has a ton of issues? Material failures? Electronics ?
I would say from reading this thread, S&B still has not fixed "all" the issues with the Venty.
Reminds me of Harley's.... each engine run, the last 2 or so years, the bikes were mostly bug free, but the first years of a new engine or major frame changes, best have a deep wallet to keep the scoot running.

Glad I waited.... maybe next year, for now till after Christmas sales run, I would bet no major changes or fixes are to be had.
 

SockPuppetTheatrics

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The firmware on mine just updated this morning after not giving me the prompt for a few days (this morning was the first time the update prompt appeared when I connected via the web app on my phone). I'd previously tried rebooting the device and my phone as well as connecting via a browser using a Chromebook.

I didn't do anything differently this morning, so maybe sometimes it just takes a bit?
 

justcametomind

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I’ve had two so far each with 250+ hours use. One at launch from S&B direct, next was a replacement 4 months later due to buttons. Never had an E04 or anything terminal, just buttons all wearing away, both times. Rubber is of incomparable standard vs Mighty and Mighty+.

What’s most surprising is that the second device I have specifically only used the power button to turn on and keep on, draw detection doesn’t ever pick up unless CU is open and I don’t like that airy experience, yet even still the temperature buttons have also warped and the temp. down is now lodged in. Something happens to the rubber with heat imo. Need an rma but pain to send back and wait a week or two, for not my fault. Buttons will only fail again until they change something and every replacement will be an E04 gamble by the looks of it. I’ve heard suggestions of oil or similar reacting to the button material but I literally work in an office, have no abnormalities and have 2 x Mightys that have stood a much longer test of time with new looking buttons to this day. My theory is that the material selected is not heat resistant, I base that only on experience as electrician and cable sheath material differences in rubber, not science. No idea as S&B won’t send anything not generic in RMA procedure

Minor but not good enough with price, buttons have been around for a long time and surprised they got that wrong.

With regards to a refund that’s the only thing S&B actually addressed when I enquired about the issues, and it was a swift no.
You are of course entitled to use your Venty as much as you like but in the above post you state of having put 500 hours spread on two Venty units. Another post here states you put 257 hours on your current unit, in 4 months. 257 hrs spread in 120 days means the average is 2,14 hours. This means if one day you didn't use it, the day after you put more than 4 hours on it. If you compare the build quality of the Venty to DHGate stuff, can I say I think your use case scenario is a bit extreme for any battery portable? Just to help keeping things in perspective.
I'm not framing you into any Jabba the Hut role (if one, you did ;) ) I'm only connecting the dots with the informations that you posted, and I thank you for posting the whole thing and not just the picture of the smashed buttons.
Having the device switched on so much time each day imho is clearly taking a toll on your device and it's actually amazing that the device still works perfectly and the only part that is affected is that rubber sleeve.
I agree that for the time being the Venty is not "hardcore-sipper proof" as the Mighty was. Just the rubber sleeve though. They probably focused on quicker patterns of use, given the airflow the Venty has, but they will address the rubber issue as they did with any of their products decects over the years. Probably a tad smaller power button with a matching thicker rubber on it. Not rocket science so it will probably be addressed someday.


My experience after almost 1 year of daily driving it:
After the Venty that was bricked remotely by S/B I had a second RMA soon after due to E04 (it appeared only once, the vape regained functionality soon after that, but I was asked to send it in regardless of that).
Then they made their first "major" firmware update which my third Venty already came with.
It was said such update would get rid of E04 and it was exactly what happened to me.
Venty put anything else vape related I have on the shelf, best effortless vaping experience by far. It's a portable Volcano for me, to the point I barely used my Digit this year, which was probably my favorite until now.

It’s not mechanical stress when I don’t use 66% of the buttons. Mechanical stress that didn’t apply to any previous S&B device with considerably more use time each. Interesting…

I don’t know why you keep referring to ‘use’ of a product and frame it in a way that I am jabba the hut. Literally get home from work and turn on for 30-40 min sessions, 2-3 times per evening 😂

It’s not material fatigue as I’ve said to one of your posts before, I’ve specifically only ever used one button to keep on, ever since the first ones fell apart.

Have owned 5 S&B devices portable and desktop, it’s not unreasonable to say the build quality, and materials used, that have clearly differed from previous devices, is worse. Use time aside, or even if in your scenario I pressed 1000 times a day, it’s a £400 device, should be able to handle basic functions repeatedly for more than 3 months. Will be interested to see how many more come here with same issue, it will be many.

At this point I can only think my skin is toxic to non bio material, or device is below par build quality. I know which is more likely

What we do agree on, is that overall it’s a minor issue with RMAs in place. The device in carrying out its purpose, is fantastic
 
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mitchgo61

I go where the thrills are
I own both and my experience with the Solo matches yours.


Yes. It took me a few rounds before it was done but everything is OK. I really like that the boost does not time out. It did flash a grey EO4 while I was doing it, not sure why.
Had the same experience. Kept disconnecting during the update and at least once I got an E04 for a split second (and my heart dropped for a moment!). Finally completed the update on my fourth try.
 

RustyOldNail

SEARCH for the treasure...
Nice job, been hoping that 90 second “boost” limit would get fixed, better late then never….

Would be nice if S&B sent emails out to us registered users ALERTING us when new firmware updates are released, and the standard “update log”!

Read about the 1.09 firmware update in this thread on October 3rd, installed & happy.
Just wrote this today, a week later, to say I received the firmware update notification via email, so while a bit late, they did send it. Good reason to make sure you have registered and your contact information is correct, and obviously for any warranty issues.
 

leanpubpackage

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still wins the reach test despite having the tornado as the shiny new toy.

although for some reason, the throat is scratchy the next morning after a night with the venty. my only real complaint
 
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