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CuttyBuddy
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Just got my Vapor Genie. What sucks is I thought I ordered the other color. So I'm a little disappointed color wise cuz it's totally not what I wanted, I wanted the Darker brown hand carved and i got the light one. Sucks. K so i thought I was going to soldier it and perfect it right away after doing my homework and all. WRONG! I guess you gotta scortch your throat at least once to find the barrier YOU DO NOT WANT TO CROSS. OUCH! It's still soar. There goes all my hard work the past couple weeks not combusting, oh well. I ended up getting the hang of it. lol ya realllllllly getting the hang of it, yum. Anyway she's a good purchase she suits me good for those times when sucking on a hose won't look that cool. lol..... I'm a happy camper. Vaked. So I give it 2 thumbs. One thing I will say is I really noticed the lighter taste more at the beginning then I did after the like the 4-5th try. Maybe cuz my technique is better of maybe cuz i'm used to it not sure. Anyway good portable guys
CuttyBuddy
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electric u say?? where do u get em? what brand....link? thanks manlwien said:
Hennessy1414
Terrorist
if you do MAKE SURE to get thick wick bee-line hemp string...the thin wick is what fucks up the ceramic and your hitrunner said:
CuttyBuddy
Well-Known Member
I only saw an offering of 1 kind of wick myself on the VG website maybe I wasn't looking hard enough. Do u taste the flavor MORE or close to as much as ure herb when using a wick? I don't want the taste to be too strong. Don't you guys like a disposable bic? I'm using that and it seems to be perfect. Altho I wonder is that what is irritating the throat? hmmmmmmmm. How does the skinny wick mess up the VG?Hennessy1414 said:if you do MAKE SURE to get thick wick bee-line hemp string...the thin wick is what fucks up the ceramic and your hitrunner said:
Hennessy1414
Terrorist
LINK EDIT!!!
I thought I explained this a few posts back :/
dont use the shit from VG's website. type in "bee line hemp string" into google. once you find a vendor that supplys it look for the hemp string called "thick wick" the other stuff is regular wick.
the problem with hemp string is the fact the the flame NEVER got hot enough for me...if anything the hemp string ruined my hit far far far worse than a lighter could (which it never does so that's why I'm telling you to stick with the butane powered lighters). to get any kind of hit at all with the string i had to get the flame so close to the ceramic that it burnt the ceramic and didnt even vape my bowl.
dont waste your time honestly...stick with the piezo ignition lighters (the 'piezo' is just an electrical spark instead of flint being struck to produce the spark to light the lighter...flint is harmful for you if its sprinkled on the ceramic so I would stick with piezo)
good luck bud
http://www.aqualabtechnologies.com/catalog/c32f0267-0664-42b8-952e-00889c435c16.aspx
all sorts of bee-line
I thought I explained this a few posts back :/
dont use the shit from VG's website. type in "bee line hemp string" into google. once you find a vendor that supplys it look for the hemp string called "thick wick" the other stuff is regular wick.
the problem with hemp string is the fact the the flame NEVER got hot enough for me...if anything the hemp string ruined my hit far far far worse than a lighter could (which it never does so that's why I'm telling you to stick with the butane powered lighters). to get any kind of hit at all with the string i had to get the flame so close to the ceramic that it burnt the ceramic and didnt even vape my bowl.
dont waste your time honestly...stick with the piezo ignition lighters (the 'piezo' is just an electrical spark instead of flint being struck to produce the spark to light the lighter...flint is harmful for you if its sprinkled on the ceramic so I would stick with piezo)
good luck bud
http://www.aqualabtechnologies.com/catalog/c32f0267-0664-42b8-952e-00889c435c16.aspx
all sorts of bee-line
Chubba
Vaporbonger
Lots of good points in that post.
I agree on the "done my homework, thought I would perfect it first time". I'm a very handy smoker, I can master most pieces straight up, I thought I had the VG sussed. This unit does definitely take some getting used to regardless of your skill level. I found that after 2 - 3g (20 good bowls)I have my preferred technique down.
I agree with the "scorching". It's natural to scorch a bowl, in fact I encourage it so you know where the "line" is... but how the hell is it so damn painful, it's 10x more painful then smoking a bowl... it makes no sense.
Chubba
Vaporbonger
No I mean combustion in a vaporizer, is WAY more harsh then just smoking it straight up.
I would have thought even if you stuffed up a vaporizer the worst case scenario it would just be equivalent to smoke, but to me it's definitely way more harsh.
VG works good for me, but a scorched/combusted VG hurts more then just hitting a normal pipe.
I would have thought even if you stuffed up a vaporizer the worst case scenario it would just be equivalent to smoke, but to me it's definitely way more harsh.
VG works good for me, but a scorched/combusted VG hurts more then just hitting a normal pipe.
Hennessy1414
Terrorist
possibly allergic to the wood? :/
try a different lighter? (preferably one without a flint spark)
dont cross that line of it being semi tan to being a darker brown...that may help
try a different lighter? (preferably one without a flint spark)
dont cross that line of it being semi tan to being a darker brown...that may help
Hennessy1414
Terrorist
go for it...in the end you will be using a lighter
Acolyte of Zinglon
Wizard-Ninja
i fully understand what you mean, i was majorly scorching the first weekend i had it and my lungs felt like absolute dhit the week after, hurt almost more than smokingChubba said:
runner
Basshead
Just so I have all bases covered, no one recommends the Vector lighters? They have a five-year warranty, has anyone had any experience dealing with their service? And Hennesy I'm not ignoring your opinion. I believe you about how I'll be using a lighter, I'd just prefer to be able to use the hemp string instead of having to buy butane all the time.Hennessy1414 said:go for it...in the end you will be using a lighter
Jikaboom123
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It's not just the VG. Any vape that combusts for some reason has the harshest, disgusting smoke ever. I don't know why but it's true.
lwien
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't buy another. See post #478runner said:Just so I have all bases covered, no one recommends the Vector lighters? They have a five-year warranty, has anyone had any experience dealing with their service? And Hennesy I'm not ignoring your opinion. I believe you about how I'll be using a lighter, I'd just prefer to be able to use the hemp string instead of having to buy butane all the time.Hennessy1414 said:go for it...in the end you will be using a lighter
Acolyte of Zinglon
Wizard-Ninja
spiral is quite happywith his vector elio, ive heard good things about vectors customer service toorunner said:Just so I have all bases covered, no one recommends the Vector lighters? They have a five-year warranty, has anyone had any experience dealing with their service? And Hennesy I'm not ignoring your opinion. I believe you about how I'll be using a lighter, I'd just prefer to be able to use the hemp string instead of having to buy butane all the time.Hennessy1414 said:go for it...in the end you will be using a lighter
runner
Basshead
Iwien, how much does this have to do with technique of using it? I know when I read about the lighters on the VG site it said something about being extremely gentle pressing down on the button. I may order one anyway considering the five-year warranty and it'll save me from buying from multiple sites.
lwien
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Yeah, I'm very gentle pressing down that button. I have an el-cheapo piezo that works better. I got the Elio because of the horizontal flame, but even before the button acted up, the flame size would vary without me making any adjustments to the wheel.runner said:
I'm not saying that ALL of their lighters are bad, just relating my experience with this particular one. I haven't sent it in for service yet.
Acolyte of Zinglon
Wizard-Ninja
i use a cheap refillable slider lighter that i got at a gas station, its nice, peizo ignition, lights every time, refillable, and only cost me a dollar
And you inhale melted plastic. Take a look under the metal cover of your lighter after a session or two and have a peek at all the melted plastic you inhaled. I use plastic lighters until I took the metal cover off. The entire housing under the metal cover and around the flame is plactic; melted plasticc! Do your health a favor and drop a measly $20 on the Vector Elio pipe lighter. I've done all the guinnea pig work. Almost impossible to find a nonplastic candle flame peizo period, then to find one that throws the flame out the side...it's the vector elio until someone shows me another one. Yes its a mediocre quality lighter at best but considering the other options it's a home run. and most importantly, no plastic for the flame to melt.Acolyte of Zinglon said:
BTW fuck beeline/hemp line; It dosent provide a consistent steady flame, it's a frickin mess, and it's the biggest pain in the ass try not to light yourself on fire after lighting your bongload method ive ever used.
Jikaboom123
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I find this hard to believe. You're telling me that a Bic lighter will have tons of melted plastic?captainhits said:And you inhale melted plastic. Take a look under the metal cover of your lighter after a session or two and have a peek at all the melted plastic you inhaled. I use plastic lighters until I took the metal cover off. The entire housing under the metal cover and around the flame is plactic; melted plasticc! Do your health a favor and drop a measly $20 on the Vector Elio pipe lighter. I've done all the guinnea pig work. Almost impossible to find a nonplastic candle flame peizo period, then to find one that throws the flame out the side...it's the vector elio until someone shows me another one. Yes its a mediocre quality lighter at best but considering the other options it's a home run. and most importantly, no plastic for the flame to melt.Acolyte of Zinglon said:
BTW fuck beeline/hemp line; It dosent provide a consistent steady flame, it's a frickin mess, and it's the biggest pain in the ass try not to light yourself on fire after lighting your bongload method ive ever used.