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Ronp said:
What I don't have a clue about is the different properties of the wood or metal and how it effects your vaporizing experience. Does the different types of wood and metal serve a practical purpose

I was going to get the bronze piece, but I got an NO2 instead.
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Wood and metal are entirely different for our use here. Wood is going to add some flavor (at least when new/clean) but is basically useless at removing heat (aside from making the path longer, in which case 'everything' will be at least as good).

Metals, OTOH, have serious potential. From your Aluminum and SS bat experience you know that they don't all perform the same WRT to cooling and getting hot in use. Two metal thermal properties are important here, Thermal Conduction (how fast heat can move through it) and Specific Heat (how much actual heat it takes to raise the temperature of the metal, how much heat it can 'soak up'. Aluminum conducts much better than SS, which is why it gets hot so fast.

The use of Bronze is not an accident. It not only conducts heat well (can 'draw it out of the vapor' well) but it has a lot of 'heat capacity' (specific heat) per gram and there's a LOT of it so it can suck up a lot of heat without getting too warm. Since getting the Bronze one, my other VGs are getting mighty lonely. I suggest you reconsider it.

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Hi again Ronp,

Ronp said:
...is your design simply aesthetic? ...are your modifications simply for looks.
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No, my core motivation was to find a way to adapt the pipe since i couldn't hanfle it at all before.

Ronp said:
Next holiday I may get the Sherlock.
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It was a possibility a while ago though i realized there are differences since then.

Ronp said:
...vapor pathway longer... ...cooler... ...flexible or glass... ...bird's eye view...
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Good sight over the flame is Paramount because if you let the flame touch anything then soot is to be expected and the last place where you want soot is inside the SiC Ceramic Filter exactly. Glass is nice but never used without a flexibility buffer. Finally, i shortened my cannabic path which has been quite long on occasions, but since i put a metal screen on top of my teflon joint water vapor condensates much closer to it now. So, the bronze unit would have been great with that but there's the need to pre-heat too...

Yet i'd argue i've tried my best to improve my experience while having some "Harm Reduction" bias in mind.

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I v tried my VG with a torch lighter for the first time, the result was a nice and warm fire after only few seconds..I can't figure out how to use it effectively...I was on minimum output but still combustion happened ...what to do ?
 
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Vitolo said:
DO NOT let your flame get sucked up close enough to actually touch the stone.
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.....unless it's a torch lighter (running properly).

"Candle flame" lighters, like real candle flames, can leave soot since part of the reaction is happening in the yellow part (cool it enough and the reaction stops, no CO2; you get 'lamp black' instead). Torches (with their 'all blue' flame) don't do this. In fact, serious torching is the fix for soot (carbon) contamination......

Nothing is magic here, the user still has to control the heat. Once the heat exchanger is hot enough to get to vaping temperatures, back off.........

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Vitolo said:
DO NOT let your flame get sucked up close enough to actually touch the stone.


(over-aggressive flame contact can get the stone too hot too fast)
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yes this I know...I stay quite far not even touching the metal...but still ...
 
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cat420 said:
yes this I know...I stay quite far not even touching the metal...but still ...
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If it's getting too hot, don't heat it as much?

Most guys are too shy with the heat I think, but there is a limit to what can be done in terms of volume/rate of production. Adding more heat makes it hotter without making more vapor.

Try backing off the fire when vapor production starts. Work up on it.

It's not the torch or distance, torches produce as much heat as any lighter using the same amount of gas. Timing is the variable you want to use.

Good luck with it, it can be learned.

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KidFated. said:
Did my stone shrink? Or does it just look like it
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Must be illusion. Silicon Carbide is not going to lose to anything but diamond. You haven't been vaping diamond have you? Extremely tough stuff.

Take a careful look at it, it's sintered pieces, each very precise. You won't find broken or worn ones. Or debris.

Vape on with clear conscience.

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It's not the torch or distance, torches produce as much heat as any lighter using the same amount of gas. Timing is the variable you want to use.

Good luck with it, it can be learned.

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well I ll give some more try later on..for the time being I v learned an easy ABV recipe...I guess I ll give a rest to my burnt troath and use my stomach as way of assumption...did not know it was still sooo powerful this ABV ...

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well I ll give some more try later on..for the time being I v learned an easy ABV recipe...I guess I ll give a rest to my burnt troath and use my stomach as way of assumption...did not know it was still sooo powerful this ABV ...
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If you've been combusing it, I seriously doubt there's enough THC left to make it worth while, and it's going to taste really nasty. More nasty than ABV from bud you didn't burn.......

If you want to experiment with eating it, look up "firecrackers". Basically raw weed mixed with peanut butter and heated (like wrapped in foil in a toaster oven). The oil in the peanut butter binds with the THC so you can get to it (don't eat raw weed to get off, eat raw weed to get sick.....).

Anyway, firecrackers (usually done on crackers where I come from) work great and actually taste OK (at least to some).

Another, personal favorite, you might try is to gently fry about 1/3 of a gram of fine ground bud in a couple teaspoons of butter. Go slow, and when the color changes and wisps of vapor start to rise, quickly scramble a couple eggs in it incorporating the herb and butter (and some mushrooms, onions and cheese to taste......). Good eating, but hang onto your seat in an hour or so. Don't plan much for a while.

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HillaryClinton

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Anyone have a nice cheap recommendation for a soft flame pipe lighter that will last at least a year or so?

My lighter broke...
 
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HillaryClinton said:
Anyone have a nice cheap recommendation for a soft flame pipe lighter that will last at least a year or so?
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It depends on what you call cheap. This is the current version of my favorite (from Vector):
http://www.amazon.com/Vector-Rapid-..._sbs_hg_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1DR60EGYRVTHS6EHVX7B

My older version (more rounded) is still going strong although not seeing much duty with vaping as opposed to blazing. A solid, traditional pipe lighter (notice the built in tamping tool....).

However, I think 'candle flame' lighters are a poor choice (which is why I don't use this one.....), small torches are easier to control and don't foul the VG with soot. At $3 shipped this is my recommendation:
http://www.dx.com/p/jet-1300-c-butane-lighter-1320#.U7HDpKxmNiI

At that price I suggest ordering a couple, I've yet to wear one out, but have lost a couple.

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Hey, I think this is my favorite pipe lighter, under a different name now?
http://www.amazon.com/Vertigo-Dubli...sbs_hpc_9?ie=UTF8&refRID=1MXBEE5FFATR4E1KHWN4

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Looper

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Whats a good soft flame torch lighter? A torch lighter with an adjustable flame. Looking a for cheap one.
 
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Yea. Thats the one I have. I've been looking for something more portable that I could carry in my pocket. Still haven't found one yet.
 
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HillaryClinton

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OF I really like that Vector one, Went to the site, they seem to have one called the Colt and Maximus also, are those better quality you think? They are about 10 bucks more but if there is no advantage I might as well get the one you linked, since I like the size/design/looks better anyways.

I do have a 5 dollar ebay coupon, might try to score one of the Vector lighters there. :)

All I do with a torch is burn it, not good for me when trying to chill out, to much worrying.
 
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HillaryClinton said:
OF I really like that Vector one, Went to the site, they seem to have one called the Colt and Maximus also, are those better quality you think?
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Beats me, never seen either. I'd expect them to be at least as good as mine? My only problem with this one is the flame type. We differ there, I find a torch easier to control, it goes exactly where you point it. I really like it with Vapman, in fact I don't know how to do it there otherwise.

Takes all kinds to make a horse race as they say.

Best wishes,

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OF said:
If you've been combusing it, I seriously doubt there's enough THC left to make it worth while, and it's going to taste really nasty. More nasty than ABV from bud you didn't burn.......


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Well , I have a small box full of ABV which was not combusted ...I have already tried it a couple of days ago : melted butter , small amount of milk, 2 tea spoons of ABV, microwaved on middle temperature for two minutes and after two hours I was totally High...could not go to sleep till next morning at 7pm and I have ingested it at 7 pm previous night !! Even the next day I was kind of high..amazing...
 
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However, I think 'candle flame' lighters are a poor choice (which is why I don't use this one.....), small torches are easier to control and don't foul the VG with soot. At $3 shipped this is my recommendation:
http://www.dx.com/p/jet-1300-c-butane-lighter-1320#.U7HDpKxmNiI

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I v ordered a couple of those ones from dealextreme : after 6 weeks I did not get anything as yet...
They answered that is a busy period and to wait...still I would suggest to avoid "super saver" sending method...it is free but it takes ages to reach..

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