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Fearless Disaster

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Around there, I did not measure this time. I tried to get close to your load size, visually.

With a very small amount, yes. A few pages back I showed how .01g and .02g loads work for me; those were like 4 heatings/hits.

I never go that high with flower. I did it to show that it would quickly finish it off. The pic makes it look a little bit lighter than how it looked to me.

I usually have it around 5-7 for hash.

I don't. The ~4 level is sufficient to get a full dark roast after several hits, depending on load size.

That's a good question. I haven't combusted but I have gotten it unpleasantly dark without too much pushing.

I would try that, and just try to turn the vapman back and forth a bit once it settles in to see if you can get full contact between the pan and the stand. Again, try it in all 3 positions, too. You may find that one or two are fine (or not), and that will help inform you conclusion.

After your break you could try it with CBD or cheap herbs just to not waste too much. You don't really have to ingest it of course.

That I am not sure about. I would have thought it was stainless?

Yes

I think you'd be best off trying to adjust the stand's position. Swapping it may only bring another that needs a slight adjustment. It's not hard, many of us have had to do it. If it can't find a sweet spot or if you can determine that it's the electronics, that is a different matter, of course.

It shouldn't be too hard to do and there's plenty of experienced messers-around here to help you get it right. Best of luck!
I have an update! First of all the whole ir thermometer idea was a waste of time. Even with correct emissivities the numbers fluctuated too much to be useful. So I tried your suggestion and put a 20-mg load right on the bowl. I set the temp dial at 3.75 and took a picture after 4 pulls and 6 pulls.


testing each of the three bowl positions was a variable i couldn't track in this experiment, so for a couple of pulls i pressed down a bit to make sure there was solid contact. so it is currently unknown if the way the vapman site needs some adjustment but it seems like things are working!

that abv after 6 pulls is pretty decent i think. so the station seems to be heating up close to where it needs to, and the herb in the bowl is getting roasted. so it seems the only unknowns left are perhaps putting the concentrate screen in better and making sure the vapman makes good contact all the time without having to push on the vapman. i'll repeat the tests over the next couple of days with the vapman sitting in the same position for the entire session and just resting in the cradle and will report back.
 

Dr. G

Vapman Collector Vapman Beta Tester
I can't decide between the 2.0 Olive and Satinwood, does anyone have both to compare?
Greetings...they are both gorgeous it really depends on what you like...I have both and favor the Olive but, the Satinwood is going to be a more rare item in the future...I would get the Satinwood...it's a tiny bit shiny and glimmery.... beautiful piece.

Get both!!!!!!!! Get the Station that works with them...you have some nice options. Cheers and good luck.
 

Robthebob

New Member
Greetings...they are both gorgeous it really depends on what you like...I have both and favor the Olive but, the Satinwood is going to be a more rare item in the future...I would get the Satinwood...it's a tiny bit shiny and glimmery.... beautiful piece.

Get both!!!!!!!! Get the Station that works with them...you have some nice options. Cheers and good luck.
thank you very much, of course I already have the station 😊
 

jbm

Well-Known Member
is the OG preferred or the 2.0?
There are several models: the Swiss OG, the first Italian model, the 2.0, and the click. I stick to the first Italians (olive, applewood) and a couple Swiss OG (walnut, pear) for the most part. Those all work fine with the new station. If by OG you mean Swiss, I’d go with that over the 2.0.
Edit: inhale now offers only the 2.0 (which they refer to in places as the OG, confusingly) and the click.
 
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coolbreeze

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is the OG preferred or the 2.0?
Vgoodiez still has some V1 olives. This will give you the conical pan and the unlined midsection that works with the glass mouthpiece. Looks like there are pures left, too.

Edit: If you go for the V2, consider the Satinwood, it's a beautiful vape. Caveat: buy a couple WOODEN mouthpieces with it. Mine is my only Vapman that changes significantly with the humidity level and sometimes only a wooden MP can grip well enough to stay in.
 
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Dr. G

Vapman Collector Vapman Beta Tester
Greetings, over time the original Vapman made and created by Rene Balli has changed a few times...the question whether to get the OG Vapman by Rene or the newer 2.0 is a matter of taste...it has different technology as the Click is different. How can you compare? You just cannot...you have to try them yourself. I have every Vapman that ever existed by Rene and through its history...they are ALL unique...they all have their characteristics...think of each one having its own personality.

What personally I use...is only the Vapman's made by Master Rene...why? It is just that they are masterpieces...do I love the current Vapman? OF COURSE! I love all of them...just get a few Vapman's of each era and then, you can play and compare.

I love the new energy for Vapman on the FC Board...you have so many wonderful questions like the one above about...what is a pure...there are pures and classics. Pure is pure no heat protecting...my favorite. You look at the classic underneath and you see the mica...for heat. Over time that peels off into little pieces. Non Toxic...etc.

When I was learning about Vapman I went back on this thread and read every entry and learned quite a bit....on a nice afternoon when you have time to kill...go back and read this thread. I highly recommend.

Have a great day everyone. Stay healthy.

DrG
 
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coolbreeze

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What's a pure?
Pure doesn't have the mica sheet protecting the wood. Instead you scorch the wood as you use it, which protects the wood from further damage. Or, you can keep them pristine by using them only with the station. Traditionally, they have also been completely unfinished, although I think the Olive ones may have a finish? I can't remember but they look and feel finished.

The cherry Click is a pure. It's the only one that comes pre-scorched; it otherwise has no finish.
 

Dr. G

Vapman Collector Vapman Beta Tester
Pure doesn't have the mica sheet protecting the wood. Instead you scorch the wood as you use it, which protects the wood from further damage. Or, you can keep them pristine by using them only with the station.
...and if you notice that the new CLICK Cherry is a pure with a pre scorched black bottom...gorgeous. The pures are so beautiful over time...how the wood color changes. Truly an amazing vape...
 

Pangolin 6

Member
Pure doesn't have the mica sheet protecting the wood. Instead you scorch the wood as you use it, which protects the wood from further damage. Or, you can keep them pristine by using them only with the station. Traditionally, they have also been completely unfinished, although I think the Olive ones may have a finish? I can't remember but they look and feel finished.

The cherry Click is a pure. It's the only one that comes pre-scorched; it otherwise has no finish.

...and if you notice that the new CLICK Cherry is a pure with a pre scorched black bottom...gorgeous. The pures are so beautiful over time...how the wood color changes. Truly an amazing vape...

Thanks. Getting super excited about my Cherry Click now. Gonna be refreshing that tracking page!

A big part of what has me interested in the vapman is this thread - all the love, excitement and fun. I haven't read it through from the start (it is lengthy) but the active community and beautiful pics really got me!

If this is something I like I see a station and a 2.0 in the future. (and maybe a lotus! oh my.)
 

Dr. G

Vapman Collector Vapman Beta Tester
Thanks. Getting super excited about my Cherry Click now. Gonna be refreshing that tracking page!

A big part of what has me interested in the vapman is this thread - all the love, excitement and fun. I haven't read it through from the start (it is lengthy) but the active community and beautiful pics really got me!

If this is something I like I see a station and a 2.0 in the future. (and maybe a lotus! oh my.)
...little by little you will see your Vapman collection growing...because you will be seduced by the magnificent high. No other vape has this extraordinary magic...that with just a few feathers of herb in the chamber can get you so very high...its mind bending. When you really start using the Vapman you will need that time...to bond with your vape...it puts you in a different state of being. I am so happy to see another enthusiastic person...wonderful.

Welcome aboard...Cheers!
 

Robthebob

New Member
I think the v2 is easier to clean, as I clean my devices once a week I'm worried that the screws on an OG will no longer hold at some point. I think the OG looks nicer and looks higher quality but are there any other differences? In terms of lifespan, stability when dropped or in taste? Unfortunately I can't use the station on our balcony and the Vapman lighter is quite loud, does anyone know if there are any quieter lighters?
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
testing each of the three bowl positions was a variable i couldn't track in this experiment,
The easy way to track it is by the position of the two rods. They will all line up in different positions as they settle into the heater. For instance, one of mine will work best when the rods line up to the 6 O'clock position. and won't work well in one other position (in the third, it works decently).

Just note the position of the rods as you turn it in one direction (say, clockwise) to the next position it will settle into, note where the rods point, and then rotate clockwise again to find the third position and note where the rods point again.

I think the v2 is easier to clean, as I clean my devices once a week I'm worried that the screws on an OG will no longer hold at some point.
Same, I've been paranoid about stripping the screws. I'm relieved that the V2s are so much easier.
I think the OG looks nicer and looks higher quality but are there any other differences?
The main difference between the Swiss OGs and the Italian V1, V2, & Clicks is that the pan is lower and easier to replace, and consequently the rods on the midpiece are higher than on the OGs. Practically speaking this really only means that the Italian models can have the pan replaced, and they cannot share midsections with the OG Swisses. One other difference is that the OGs were made on a lathe so they're rounder than the Italian models which are made on a CNC machine; this is usually what accounts for the need to adjust the station for individual VMs. The V2s and Clicks have their mica sheets held on with glue instead of the screws used on earlier models. I'm not aware of any other differences or downsides.
In terms of lifespan, stability when dropped or in taste?
Not that I'm aware of. There could be a slight flavor advantage because it's so much easier to keep clean?
Unfortunately I can't use the station on our balcony and the Vapman lighter is quite loud, does anyone know if there are any quieter lighters?
You may have specific limitations but in general the station is fine to use on the porch/patio/balcony, just bring it in and take it out.
 
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coolbreeze

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Okay thanks, then I'm probably leaning towards a V2, but which wood...
Heck, I'd get the Zebrano, it's so gorgeous and it's a special wood so presumably won't always be available where the Olives will? There's also a Zebrano case, if that's of interest.
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