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I noticed that the crack coming from pre-charred is getting bigger. What should I do?
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Radwin Bodnic
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Mine is doing the same. But I don't really care tbh. Even if it cracks open it'll still be functional and I think it adds some character to it !
I noticed that the crack coming from pre-charred is getting bigger. What should I do?
I remember a few pictures of Swiss pures that cracked way more than that !
Gourmet
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I have seen these cracks here in the forum from time to time with the Vapman Pure.
I noticed that the crack coming from pre-charred is getting bigger. What should I do?
And I was wondering what I was doing differently, because these cracks have never appeared on mine, even when I heat with the jet as I do now with the Vapman Click.
I have almost always seen a heavily charred area around the pan in the photos, this is different to my Vapmans.
The charring is only slightly advanced in my case, the sharp edge in the middle is still clearly visible, despite almost daily use for 2 months.
It has also happened that I overheat the grass and have to throw away the filling because everything is charred and the vapor tastes awful.
You can also see in the photos how I once burned at the wrong angle in the area around the clamp.
However, I pay strict attention to flame length and distance, unfortunately I can't capture this so well in a macro photo, but a quick sketch illustrates what I mean.
( 15 mm = approximately 0.6 inch )
My assumption is therefore that the cracks usually occur due to severe overheating, which is caused by too large/long a flame and/or too little distance.
An exception to this could be that the crack was facilitated by the wood grain and/or had previously fallen to the floor from a considerable height.
In the photos, however, it appears to be stress cracks caused by overheating. As long as these do not continue, this is not a tragedy.
My advice is therefore to save some gas
and try a shorter flame length and a moderate distance.
Radwin Bodnic
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The crack on mine appeared after 10 sessions at the most. No fall and no overheating.My assumption is therefore that the cracks usually occur due to severe overheating, which is caused by too large/long a flame and/or too little distance.
An exception to this could be that the crack was facilitated by the wood grain and/or had previously fallen to the floor from a considerable height.
In the photos, however, it appears to be stress cracks caused by overheating. As long as these do not continue, this is not a tragedy.
My advice is therefore to save some gas
I guess it's about how this specific part of wood has grown and has been dried.
fangorn
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do they stay functional no matter what?
I feel like mine is going to fall into several pieces soon...
the_hexx
Team Hash
My Swiss Pure Pear developed some cracks a couple of years ago, I posted about this here and that's what René had to say about it
Happy to report that René was right, this Vapman has been used extensively since and the cracks haven't developed any further, in fact I now love them for that rugged well-worn look@the_hexx : What @passenger said is correct, cracks on a pure model isn't unusual and won't effect the lifespan the least. Please keep using your pure pear vapman without any restrictions! I will replace every vapman in case it should fall apart because of heat cracks. So far I had to replace only one unit in 17 years because of this! Even on this one case I'm not sure if it really fell apart because of cracks as I replaced it without thoroughly checking it. I don't know exactly why some pure units get cracks and others don't, it must have something to do with the direction of the wood grains and of course the type of wood. For instance I've never seen a pure Olive getting cracks so far.
Anyway, keep on using it, you're on the save side because I stand for it and I'll never run away, my word!
Cheers everyone,
René
TheScamericann
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My cherry click seems to be oozing cannabis oils from the wooden center piece. At first oils were bubbling up around the mouthpiece which can be expected, but now it seems the oils are penatrating through the actual wood itself. The resin is sticky and smells like cannabis and during a session I can actually see the oils bubbling out from the wood itself. Has anyone else experienced this?
Gourmet
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The denser and harder the wood, the more likely it is to crack.do they stay functional no matter what?
I feel like mine is going to fall into several pieces soon...
With rosewood and ebony, for example, it can even occur on the lathe. If they survive the turning process, they usually remain stable.
Cracks do not impair functionality.
I agree with that. René sorts the wood carefully before it is processed. Fresh wood is out of the question, the pieces of wood are usually several years old and have been well stored.
Another factor is how dry it is on average for the user. Here in Switzerland, the relative humidity is normally around 40-60%, and often much higher outside in winter. Inside, on the other hand, in a heavily heated apartment, it can also be very dry in winter, depending on the standard of living.
The fluctuations make the wood work, the drier the wood becomes, the higher the risk of cracking. So there are many variables involved.
VapeKnight
Day Tripper
nothing against the new V2 or Click, I have them both, but I like my OG's better. where is everyone getting the original from ?
Arawfish
How many vaps could a Vapman vap…
Yeah, that’ll happen. Cherry does seem to be the most susceptible wood for doing that though. My Cherry bleeds way more than any of the other woods I have.
@VapeKnight as for where people are getting the OGs… either on the exchange or René has a small number of OGs still kicking around. His email can be found a couple pages back.
Dr. G
Vapman Collector*Vapman Beta Tester
@vapmanMy Swiss Pure Pear developed some cracks a couple of years ago, I posted about this here and that's what René had to say about it
Happy to report that René was right, this Vapman has been used extensively since and the cracks haven't developed any further, in fact I now love them for that rugged well-worn look
Greetings, Rene, Michael and David...such high integrity. These men stand by their product and want to make you happy. This is what I LOVE about INHALE. Their product is outstanding but, their customer service LOVE is even more outstanding. Amazing to me...I am 100% a loyal customer. I am so happy all around with Vapman...thanks for posting that...makes me feel even better about them...
@the_hexx : What @passenger said is correct, cracks on a pure model isn't unusual and won't effect the lifespan the least. Please keep using your pure pear vapman without any restrictions! I will replace every vapman in case it should fall apart because of heat cracks. So far I had to replace only one unit in 17 years because of this! Even on this one case I'm not sure if it really fell apart because of cracks as I replaced it without thoroughly checking it. I don't know exactly why some pure units get cracks and others don't, it must have something to do with the direction of the wood grains and of course the type of wood. For instance I've never seen a pure Olive getting cracks so far.
Anyway, keep on using it, you're on the save side because I stand for it and I'll never run away, my word!
Cheers everyone,
René
fangorn
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by the way, I was in a hurry this morning when I posted... I just wanted to add that I talked to René about my one year old blackwood.
obviously, we will find a solution together when my Vapman needs it.
I have no worries about that.
I am just a little sad because I had become attached to this beautiful little piece of wood... my Vapman unicorn...
but everything will be fine!
obviously, we will find a solution together when my Vapman needs it.
I have no worries about that.
I am just a little sad because I had become attached to this beautiful little piece of wood... my Vapman unicorn...
but everything will be fine!
jbm
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Yes, it’s pretty much normal on mine for the oils to ooze through the bottom edge of the centerpiece.
passenger
is this thing on?
It still is beautiful to me! As it is blackwood - ebony I guess? - it's a bit harder to see if there is charring from a torch. I think the cracks would be more likely to appear while using a jet lighter though. In case you are worried about having cracks appearing around the screws, it should be fine. With my basic yew I have a deeper crack right there and there is no loss of function or stability. No cracks appeared on my basics in combination with the station, probably due to gentler heating on the pole.
Glue? Have you got any pics?
fangorn
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it's still beautiful, with character.... but it's less beautiful than when I received it!!
and... I waited to receive the station before starting to use it.... so the cracks appeared by using the station exclusively.
then I tried the torch and the cracks continued to get bigger...
I hope to keep it... but given the evolution, I would be surprised....
it was on hold for 3 weeks... we'll see!!
Radwin Bodnic
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No glue involved in the vapman.
Screws.
peeeaace
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Yes, I have a photo. Well I had already sanded a little. but before, there were still pieces of mica stuck on several points.
But you can still see the points after sanding.
I specify, the vapman in question has never been used
Radwin Bodnic
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If there's glue I really hope it's just isinglass...
passenger
is this thing on?
That would explain why the cracks seem to have started around the drillholes, through the heat transfer over the air pipes. It's surprising as I never had this happen in combination with a station!
On my blackwood basic it has not appeared to happen over years... Wood variations maybe! I use it mostly on two -three on my blue station but initially heating often around 5-6 .... which is on the hotter side, different scale on the black and blue stations. Denser wood, while beatiful, might have some downsides but I kinda prefer them.
peeeaace
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But for fans of pure vapman, after a little sanding... we can remove almost everything...
And it is entirely possible to reassemble the vapman, without the mica. And it's not very complicated, and the vapman remains completely functional!
(some said that mica piece had to be left under the screws, ultimately no)
I now have the first pure vapman, in satin wood, aha.
Take a look
And it is entirely possible to reassemble the vapman, without the mica. And it's not very complicated, and the vapman remains completely functional!
(some said that mica piece had to be left under the screws, ultimately no)
I now have the first pure vapman, in satin wood, aha.
Take a look
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