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VapedHash

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But for fans of pure vapman, after a little sanding... we can remove almost everything...

And it is entirely possible to reassemble the vapman, without the mica. And it's not very complicated, and the vapman remains completely functional!

(some said that mica piece had to be left under the screws, ultimately no)

I now have the first pure vapman, in satin wood, aha.

Take a look

Not a solution for a 200€ premium device.
Let's wait and see what Inhale says about this.
 

TheScamericann

Well-Known Member
My cannabis consumption has dropped a considerable amount since I started using the click! Compared to other butane devices with similar load capacity, I'm finding the affects are stronger, fuller and last longer with the click. I usually do 2 bowls back to back with my vapes but no need for that with the click, 1 full bowl and I'm exactly where I like to be.
 

peeeaace

Well-Known Member
Did you remove the mica because you wanted pures ? Or did you do it because of the glue ?
I really like pure vapmans, but I also really appreciate my ifs vapman with mica.

If I could have chosen pure ones on the site, I would have done so.

But I was still happy to have v2, and was delighted to see this product, with a slightly more discreet mica on the front side.

But upon receipt, I was really disappointed with the mica part. It was not well fixed in small places, it also overlapped a little. And I saw that it was very easily removable.

And I thought it would be possible to take it off and then put it back together. So I tried! And 1, and 2.

Really surprised to see what appears to be glue. And then it seems logical, how does the mica hold in this place?

But I really don't like this idea of glue. Screws yes.

On the Swiss, mica and wood are one, and it seems really fixed and well done.
 

Radwin Bodnic

Well-Known Member
And I thought it would be possible to take it off and then put it back together. So I tried! And 1, and 2.
How was the removing ? Did it was actually glued on a few spots ?

how does the mica hold in this place?
It's actually pretty rigid and stable dimensionally. It's not that easy to put in shape in the first place... since both sides are cut in the same sheet of mica I thought the three nozzle screws would have been sufficient...

On the Swiss, mica and wood are one, and it seems really fixed and well done.

On the Swiss there is a groove where the sheets are set and the linseed oil hardens the edges of the mica.
 

Gourmet

Well-Known Member
But I really don't like this idea of glue.
I'm not worried about that, there are some completely non-toxic high-temperature adhesives that can be used without hesitation.

For example: https://www.agk.de/html/isolierwerkstoffe/hochtemperaturkleber.htm


I was really disappointed with the mica part. It was not well fixed in small places, it also overlapped a little.
However, I find this criticism valuable. Do you have any photos of what you think could be improved? (i.e. before you removed the mica)

This information is essential for any production to be able to develop further.
 

peeeaace

Well-Known Member
Comment s'est passé le retrait ? A-t-il réellement été collé à quelques endroits ?
With your fingernail, then pulling, it is easily removed. After removing the bowl.

Yes, there were rather mica flakes, which remained stuck on the olive, and not on the satin wood. But the dots were visible too.

puisque les deux côtés sont coupés dans la même feuille de mica,
not sure I understand, but there are two distinct bands, one held by the screws and the other.

And it is rather very flexible. Well, that’s after. But I don't know this material and its installation.

Well it seems significantly thinner than on the Swiss. That also plays a role I think.

Je ne suis pas inquiet à ce sujet, il existe des adhésifs à haute température totalement non toxiques qui peuvent être utilisés sans hésitation.
that’s reassuring, thank you! I immediately imagined a harmful glue.

But it's the making... I prefer the screws, do you like the glue?
Cependant, je trouve cette critique précieuse. Avez-vous des photos de ce qui, selon vous, pourrait être amélioré ? (c'est-à-dire avant d'enlever le mica)


And no I don't have any photos.. But we can all compare our vapmans and have the right to do so.

and on the Italian v2, the mica seems thin, just placed, it's a sensation. And always in comparison. Take it easy. If you don't know what I'm talking about. you don't have both versions.
 

Hagbard

How Soon Is Now?
i am not sure if i get the point... surely the swiss OG is a handmade and carefully handcrafted version and the italians are more serial production ones. but the functionality and the design is a solid vaping device. i get the point with the screws over the (maybe) glued upper (!) part but for me its not that much of a major difference when it comes to the aspects of how it performs. imo the winner would be out of both versions: airflow of the OG combined with the metal liner and click in screens. plus the rounder edges combined with the thicker pipes and bigger pan of the click would be my dream version but oh well i simply can't have it all and enjoy both versions to the max

ah and just for the record @peeeaace if i would have all the versions that @Gourmet has my journey of searching rare vapman versions would be over much faster...
:)
 

Gourmet

Well-Known Member
you don't have both versions.
I have all versions except the Vapman Click with mica. (not yet) :D
With my Vapmans, I can't detect the processing defects you mentioned.

I only know that some people had problems with the mica because it got wet. Of course, it's not made for that, as everyone knows.


But we can all compare our vapmans and have the right to do so.
Absolutely, it is the buyer's right to draw the manufacturer's attention to defects.

However, it is very difficult to determine without convincing images.
 

T9R

Well-Known Member
imo the winner would be out of both versions: airflow of the OG combined with the metal liner and click in screens. plus the rounder edges combined with the thicker pipes and bigger pan of the click would be my dream version but oh well i simply can't have it all and enjoy both versions to the max
This is honestly exactly what my dream version would be as well, with the addition of a fully compatible glass mouthpiece.

I'm actually surprised with how much I feel like something is missing without the three air holes. On paper it's an inferior concept but for me it's very much an irreplaceable piece of Vapman as a whole. I miss fingering it. I miss fiddling with it.
 
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coolbreeze

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This is honestly exactly what my dream version would be as well, with the addition of a fully compatible glass mouthpiece.

I'm actually surprised with how much I feel like something is missing without the three air holes. On paper it's an inferior concept but for me it's very much an irreplaceable piece of Vapman as a whole.
Fwiw, there are a few V1s left. Anyone in need of an olive, consider one of those for the midsection--it will work with V2s and Clicks. You will have a way to use the glass MP, play the piper, etc, into the future.

I miss fingering it.
And that's just the start!
 

T9R

Well-Known Member
Fwiw, there are a few V1s left. Anyone in need of an olive, consider one of those for the midsection--it will work with V2s and Clicks. You will have a way to use the glass MP, play the piper, etc, into the future.
That's definitely great to have as an alternative. But I must say that the protected vapor path and easy maintenance would be tough features to leave behind after getting used to them.

Personally I would love if @David and Michael could add some customization options for things like this in the future, so you could choose which airflow system you want when checking out, regardless of VM model.

Edit: But it would obviously require more versions of everything as different parts aren't always compatible with each other. Maybe not the best for business.
 
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coolbreeze

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That's definitely great to have as an alternative. But I must say that the protected vapor path and easy maintenance would be tough features to leave behind after getting used to them.

Personally I would love if @David and Michael could add some customization options for things like this in the future, so you could choose which airflow system you want when checking out, regardless of VM model.
I'm not sure if they sell the insert separately but someone was just saying it does work with the earlier midsections. Be great to sell the V1 midsections, the insert, and the WPA midsections as add-ons.
 
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Gourmet

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@peeeaace
I'm not sure if I understand you correctly because of the language barrier, je suis trés desolé. ;)

My V2 looks like this:






My very first Vapman is around 11 years old and was used very very hard. The poor had to show what he could do in the fields, woods, meadows and festivals, even fell into the water once, one or two air tubes was torn out once (stuck because of resinous hash when cold) and had to be tweaked by René. This Vapman is still running and I love using it.





As we see, over time, the patina retains the mica. :D


So far I have noticed that the Italian models have normally become more accurate, the wood-parts are slightly more precise, the connecting edges on the Mica are slightly rounder than on the Swiss OG.

Anyway, if anyone has pictures of the Italian v2 with a mica to criticize, I am very interested to see them.

That's definitely great to have as an alternative. But I must say that the protected vapor path and easy maintenance would be tough features to leave behind after getting used to them.

Personally I would love if @David and Michael could add some customization options for things like this in the future, so you could choose which airflow system you want when checking out, regardless of VM model.

Edit: But it would obviously require more versions of everything as different parts aren't always compatible with each other. Maybe not the best for business.
We can ask René if he would like to take over the adaptations for the Swiss OG, we probably don't need too many of these ;-)

But I am also open to this idea!
 

peeeaace

Well-Known Member
In the first photo, it's not a v2.

the v2 has no text on the wood, and it only has 3 screws holding the mica, not 7 like yours here.

No ?

It's an Italian v1 this, no ?

Well I understand with so many vapman, you're getting confused. Aha

And yes, my translator is bad. Sorry
 
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Grass Yes

Yes
Staff member
We can ask René if he would like to take over the adaptations for the Swiss OG, we probably don't need too many of these ;-)
Using my Click Pure for the past two weeks has convinced me the OG is perfect.

Two big grains of salt on my review:
1. This is my first Pure/Basic.
2. I've never used a 2.0.

I absolutely adore my vapmans and put them above a lot of my vape collection. It was love at first sight for my Swiss Pear. I think the ritual is perfect and I rank it also near the top in flavor. These little vapes defy every sensible rule about vaping and I think that's fantastic.

Compared to this standard, my Pronto was disappointing from the beginning. The case is inferior to the egg in every way. The springs got caught in the net, and the presentation is bad. A small thing but a downgrade. The vapman is rough and unfinished. It seemed more like something popped right off a CNC machine rather than turned and sanded. I don't know if all Basics are like that, but I didn't like it. I'm sanding mine and I oiled it.

I think the midsection is also trying to achieve something that I don't understand. Probably hoping to please those who use tookpicks on the original? I don't like it. I feel like the metal insert collects more reclaim but that could be due to the Pronto bowl or other factors. Definitely removing the cooling spiral is required.

I don't have feelings about the click discs really at all. They are set a bit too early, but better that than combustion. I am mostly ignoring them now.

I didn't expect to like the bigger bowl. It seemed like a pointless upgrade and a deviance from the vapman spirit. I was wrong. The bigger bowl is great. It can prolong a session, but also it can make for more flavorful enjoyable hits in an easier way. I don't like the flimsy new pin in the bowl, the old one is much better.

Altogether I think my Vapman Click Pure is very similar to a vapman but does lack something in the spirit. I'm glad that people are enjoying it. I think it moves us away from what I like about the vapman experience.

I'm glad Michael and David are experimenting. I think a lot of folks are not like me and don't want the original vapman. I don't mind if these folks get a vape that works for them. I do hope the next vapman experiment tries to capture the soul of the vapman a bit more. I'm probably a bit biased as the vape I used for the month before the Pronto was the Element Home Vaporizer. That vape could not appear more different than the vapman but overlaps with its heart in a big way.
 

jbm

Well-Known Member
I think it moves us away from what I like about the vapman experience.
I think if you had really dialed in the ritual with the OGs (and the 2.0 for that matter,) the Click was going to seem odd. Part of what I love about the pre-click VMs is that they encourage experimentation and the development of a personal style of use. It reminds me of using unregulated vapes like the Milaana or the Toad in that there is a defiinite learning curve, but once you know it better, it is extremely versatile. I see this as an advantage, and one of the reasons the vape has been so special to me. Apparently it was also one of the main complaints about the pre-click Vapman.
 
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coolbreeze

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I think if you had really dialed in the the ritual with the OGs (and the 2.0 for that matter,) the Click was going to seem odd. Part of what I love about the pre-click VMs is that they encourage experimentation and the development of a personal style of use. It reminds me of using unregulated vapes like the Milaana or the Toad in that there is a definitive learning curve, but once you knew it better, it is extremely versatile. I see this as an advantage, and one of the reasons the vape has been so special to me. Apparently it was also one of the main complaints about the pre-click Vapman.
I think you've captured what it is for many people. The Click doesn't really prevent this but because it's less necessary newcomers may not find a necessity to experiment and learn it as intimately. This is one reason I hope they'll keep the V2s (and V1s?) in production, for when people inevitably want the OG experience. The big advantages of the Click is it seriously reduces the curve for newbs and it's easier to use outside.

Using my Click Pure for the past two weeks has convinced me the OG is perfect.

Two big grains of salt on my review:
1. This is my first Pure/Basic.
2. I've never used a 2.0.

I absolutely adore my vapmans and put them above a lot of my vape collection. It was love at first sight for my Swiss Pear. I think the ritual is perfect and I rank it also near the top in flavor. These little vapes defy every sensible rule about vaping and I think that's fantastic.

Compared to this standard, my Pronto was disappointing from the beginning. The case is inferior to the egg in every way. The springs got caught in the net, and the presentation is bad. A small thing but a downgrade. The vapman is rough and unfinished. It seemed more like something popped right off a CNC machine rather than turned and sanded. I don't know if all Basics are like that, but I didn't like it. I'm sanding mine and I oiled it.

I think the midsection is also trying to achieve something that I don't understand. Probably hoping to please those who use tookpicks on the original? I don't like it. I feel like the metal insert collects more reclaim but that could be due to the Pronto bowl or other factors. Definitely removing the cooling spiral is required.

I don't have feelings about the click discs really at all. They are set a bit too early, but better that than combustion. I am mostly ignoring them now.

I didn't expect to like the bigger bowl. It seemed like a pointless upgrade and a deviance from the vapman spirit. I was wrong. The bigger bowl is great. It can prolong a session, but also it can make for more flavorful enjoyable hits in an easier way. I don't like the flimsy new pin in the bowl, the old one is much better.

Altogether I think my Vapman Click Pure is very similar to a vapman but does lack something in the spirit. I'm glad that people are enjoying it. I think it moves us away from what I like about the vapman experience.

I'm glad Michael and David are experimenting. I think a lot of folks are not like me and don't want the original vapman. I don't mind if these folks get a vape that works for them. I do hope the next vapman experiment tries to capture the soul of the vapman a bit more. I'm probably a bit biased as the vape I used for the month before the Pronto was the Element Home Vaporizer. That vape could not appear more different than the vapman but overlaps with its heart in a big way.
I've shared many of these same thoughts. The og models are special. I've grown accustomed to the V2 & Click and I appreciate what they try and do accomplish. I love that the Click has opened Vapmans up to many, many more people and they're responding. That said I think that many of those people will also want something like the original experience as a natural progression of their relationships with their Vapmans, and I hope that will be there for them.

My only real concern about the Pronto is that the new pan could be more robust. I wondered about it from the beginning and I've seen a bent rod and broken apart assembly so far.
 

cx714

Unregulated Tendencies
Many people who love driving love driving stick but there’s a reason carmakers don’t manufacture more manuals— the VASt majority just want to get where they’re going, quick as they can.

Of course, in markets where gas is pricey and sold by the litre [sic], the manual transmission’s improved efficiency drives a logic that’s separate from but not exclusive of the pleasures of the road.

Hate to keep rolling out car metaphors in here but the parallels go long miles on a single tank. Also, I’ve been driving stick. 😉
 

coolbreeze

Well-Known Member
Many people who love driving love driving stick but there’s a reason carmakers don’t manufacture more manuals— the VASt majority just want to get where they’re going, quick as they can.

Of course, in markets where gas is pricey and sold by the litre [sic], the manual transmission’s improved efficiency drives a logic that’s separate from but not exclusive of the pleasures of the road.

Hate to keep rolling out car metaphors in here but the parallels go long miles on a single tank. Also, I’ve been driving stick. 😉
Country road, pick-up truck, beat-up Vapman on the dash.
Dog in the back, girl in the front, the good Lord at the wheel...
Long on time, short on cash, picking pocket lint off the hash,
A little bumpy to be sure, but I bet you get the appeal.

; )
 
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vaporvizard93

New Member
So my Vapman arrived yesterday! Or at least that's what UPS claims..

No vapman for me
:huh:


Problem was, when I went to pick it up yesterday, the store it was delivered to didn't have it. Fun. Not really sure what to do now as I can't call the support phone number since it's an international phone number and I can't make calls outside the country. I did email them though so I think I should hear back from them today. I'll check at the access point again this evening too to see if maybe the delivery was just delayed? But I'm not sure why it would be marked as delivered if it wasn't?


I wish INHALE would chose a different courier or at the very least offer multiple ones, I would gladly pay much more just to not have to deal with UPS...

I did email INHALE too though and am waiting for their reply too, I just really hope it's a misunderstanding as I was looking forward to trying it a lot!
 
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Did a deep clean using the mustard powder method and didn't quite get the results I wanted after reading other peoples posts doing it.

Mixing it up and applying it was fine, much easier to do when using toothpicks to block the airholes.





I even did two applications of the mustard powder mix, and honestly it seems that just using the toothpick to attack the staining wouldn't have been much different to doing it after the mustard mix YMMV

Still got cleaner but not as squeaky clean as some of the pics I've seen after cleaning on here.



This is my OG Swiss Walnut VM which has now become my hash VM after buying my ebony one which is for flower only now.

I just re-checked about mustard, so basically made half-year cleaning routine.

So, the vapman 6 months after previous cleaning - around 500-600 bowls:
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My regular dose covers this area:

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So - teaspoon:

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Fresh boiled water.


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Mix

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Apply. Avoid nozzles.

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Put upside down (mustard will move from nozzles) and close with plastic.


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Put fresh boiled water to cup and close it with other plastic, so steam will stay out of bowl with vapman.

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This way it will heat mustard.

Wait around 1 hour.
And then clean off mustard and dirt with toothpick.


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Clean with ear sticks and hot water. Remove all mustard.




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While cleaning nozzles hold the vapman in way, that wet thread will not touch mica.

If you are suspicious, that mustard still on the pan - make a round with alcohol pad.
After alcohol better to wipe with water/cotton pad.

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And “before”

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Half-year cleaning done.
 
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Seinen

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Hi, I tried both method and baking soda works better than mustard. Left my Hashman one night with the baking soda paste and it was like new with no scrubbing. Thanks FC for the tip !!

Edit : I'll try to leave mustard overnight to make a fair comparison
 
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