Discontinued Vapir NO2

ktx49

New Member
Vitolo said:
Things happen, and you should relax as best you can.
My first Iolite came non functional and had to be sent back and I also had to pay for the shipping.
I had a switch problem on my unit that needed repair, and my unit was replaced under warranty. I had to pay shipping.
I had to pay shipping to repair my NO2
I had to pay shipping for warranty work on an SSV
I had to pay shipping to replace my BRAND NEW Iolite.
That's life.

I am saying stop fighting and squirming... and the time will go faster and it will hurt less... it has only been a couple of days, and you are upset with TWO COMPANIES!

sorry but I refuse to accept, under any circumstances, that a brand new product should be defective or faulty....if there is some level of quality control over at VAPIR, this device should never have left their warehouses.

the fact that you've had to send in numerous vaporizers from so many manufacturers is frankly pretty discouraging and is EXACTLY the type of reason why I had not purchased a vaporizer prior to this.

now to be honest im a little offended that your comparing the daily problems for-profit companies like Vapir and VapeWorld and Peugot experience with all the shit that happens in the grand scheme of life...but I hope you were just trying to make a point and weren't being serious.
so now let me make a point, i'm the customer and i dont give two shits about any problems or glitches that they may experience...its not my concern and it shouldn't be.

and despite your rather condescending assessment of my reaction to all of this, i believe the only thing I've said that was not completely warranted was calling the NO2 a black dildo paperweight....and that was actually a half-hearted attempt to make light of the situation.

anyways, even with all of this im still looking forward to getting the problem taken care of, and being able to completely assess the NO2....i went with this vaporizer for a reason; even if one of the main reasons was to avoid these type of problems....

hopefully I still have some kind buds left by that time.
 
ktx49,

Vitolo

Vaporist
ktx49 said:
the fact that you've had to send in numerous vaporizers from so many manufacturers is frankly pretty discouraging and is EXACTLY the type of reason why I had not purchased a vaporizer prior to this.
I have had to return a brand new motorized Wheelchair also, after the state agency paid the #1 Wheelchair maker in the U.S.A. and wait for 2 weeks to be mobile again! I will still buy another in the future....as will I buy many more vaporizers.

now to be honest im a little offended that your comparing the daily problems for-profit companies like Vapir and VapeWorld and Peugot experience with all the shit that happens in the grand scheme of life...but I hope you were just trying to make a point and weren't being serious......
I surely had and have no intent or reason to offend you... and yes I was being serious! After personally contacting Vapir AND VapeWorld on your behalf, and learning AND communicating with you in private Email, that you spoke to the wrong person when you called VapeWorld...
And after being promised by the TOP people at BOTH companies that they were taking care of this "this very second"... yes I was being dead serious... things happen

and despite your rather condescending assessment of my reaction to all of this,......
I apologize yet another time to you if for any reason this appears a "condescending" assessment of your reaction!
I would say that the fact that I spoke to the CEO of Vapir on your behalf, and that I spoke to the Director of Customer Service at VapeWorld on your behalf..... AND the fact that I got you immediate action would say that I took your reaction VERY seriously, and not only did I not behave in a condescending manner..... but I went to bat for you, and personally emailed you and attempted to Skype you as I did~ :2c:
I understand why you are upset.
I truly do!
I take this very seriously.
My attempts were to try to make you feel better about having been by no choice of your own the recipient of a product that "slipped through" the cracks while inspector #9 was not alert.
My attempt was also to show you that being upset during the fixing of this situation would not make the resolution happen any faster.
These are just the thoughts of a very old guy, who has had to wait for many things to be "set right" in his life.
You will love vapor once you give it a chance.
 
Vitolo,

ktx49

New Member
I have had to return a brand new motorized Wheelchair also, after the state agency paid the #1 Wheelchair maker in the U.S.A. and wait for 2 weeks to be mobile again! I will still buy another in the future....as will I buy many more vaporizers.

quick note, i wrote out a lengthy reply and accidentally closed the wrong tab or hit back or something im not sure anyways:

thats absolutely ridiculous about the wheelchair, its unacceptable man! i would be furious
....BUT the fact that you've personally had so many horrible experiences with brand new products doesn't somehow make it more acceptable when it happens....so i'm not sure of your point here.

anyways im not gonna bother typing out all my thoughts again but let me say, i finally got in touch with a CS agent at vapeworld today, got everything figured out and should have the new unit here within a few days.

ill keep u guys updated
 
ktx49,

al bundy

Vaporist
Ok what size is the o ring on the top of the no2?
Don't know how mine cane off ,
The MFLB o ring looks like it will fit :brow:
Off to the hardware store in the morning ,For now a doubled up rubberband is working.

Found it!!!!!!!
 
al bundy,

ktx49

New Member
brand spanking new NO2 arrived from vapeworld early this morning....

FYI and just in case people didnt read all of my posts, I definitely want to reiterate that my last NO2 unit was functional, the problem appeared to be with the charger/PA and was unlikely to be a problem with the actual NO2 itself...
however, since it was brand new and unused, vapeworld and myself both thought it was best to just return the entire unit rather than betting the house on the problem being exclusive to the charger/PA....

Anyways on to my replacement:
this one works and charges up just fine! out of the box, this unit(as well as the other)has very little smell or odor, just a hint of a brand new electronic product when u really jam your nose up to it....NOTHING like what has been described by some posters in this thread. let me say that the unit did come with a an activated carbon packet and it was placed RIGHT under the chamber area of the NO2...so maybe they have taken active steps to reduce this "issue" people were having.

so i got the tube soaking in some hot water right now making sure I do everyting right the first run, gonna report back ASAP on my first impressions...guess i should grind up some of my herb right now so it can be drying as much as possible. i did manage to burn through a huge chunk of my KB stash; which as said previously, was purchased exclusively for this vaporizer...and for that I am still a bit angry at vapeworld and vapir but at this point im just glad to have a working unit, in hand.
 
ktx49,

ktx49

New Member
so i'm a bit confused as to whether or not I can use the NO2 while its charging up for the first time....ive had it out of the box and charging with the top piece removed("air" it out) for about 1.5 hours now....i just looked and the battery indicator is no longer blinking, does this mean its fully charged and ready to go??

im wanting to avoid damage the battery or ruin its battery life by messing up the first charge.....i'm wanting to use it, especially after all the delays, but i have enough patience to wait if it means a better NO2 experience in the future(longer battery life, quicker charges, etc)

also, I just switched outlets real quick and after plugging it back in, it began to charge again, but has once again stopped blinking and presumably charging after about 3mins...so i think its officially done charging?
also the sound stops when it stops blinking...its very very high pitch sound very faint but audible when the battery is actually taking a charge.
 
ktx49,

Vitolo

Vaporist
Yes... there is a faint sound during the charge (up close)
1st charge, just to be sure, let it charge all the way.
I use the unit plugged in often...
and I try to always do that 1st heatup plugged in rather than on battery power.

*ktx49-
Now that you have gotten your unit, I would love to "hook you up" with a little NO2 gift
I have extra parts I keep....
email me your address and I will send you:
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2 NO2 decals
an embroidered patch
a new replacement bamboo tool
a new replacement mouthpiece
a new double length of replacement NO2 tube (cut in half)
Glad you got it worked out! :)
 
Vitolo,

ktx49

New Member
wow thanks vitolo,
i certainly wouldnt expect something like that after i got a bit testy/angry with you the other day, but im glad your mature enough to forgive and move on. I realized after your last few posts that you were definitely just trying to help and ease the situation.....but at the time, I really did perceive a few comments as a bit condesending and with my built up frustration I took it out on you.

so for that part, Vitolo, i sincerely apologize. you also went out of your way to help fix the situation which you did not have to do, and im very grateful.

well my unit is all charged up and ready to go!! buds have been ground up nicely but not too fine as per the suggestions in this thread....im gonna use 1 scoop and report back!
 
ktx49,

zzrvr

Well-Known Member
Just received my No2 and I'm a happy man. I did everything in the instructions including soaking the stem in hot water. It worked great with no smell that I could tell. One thing that was a surprise was that it came with a re-chargeable lithium battery. With a lithium battery you could charge it up today, put it away for a month and it would still be fully charged. Delivery was very prompt.......
 
zzrvr,

al bundy

Vaporist
Glad you got it worked out.
Yes you can use it while charging,it's also normal from moving it to another outlet.
And the noise in normal.
You can also flip the battery in the No2 ,but I have never done that.
If you remove it ,it will be top heavy and tip easy .
 
al bundy,

message

Member
I've been vaping at 350, less vapor clouds blowing out, but wow, still works. Great overall mind and body effect. Going to try 360 right now. This thing is so much fun! It's really a plus to be able to adjust the temps just to see if the effects are different. I've alread recommended it to multiple people.
 
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mexicola

Member
You can add me to the list of folks grateful for a rad old dude like Vitolo doing his thing on the internet. After deciding to get a vaporizer I did a little bit of research but not an extensive amount. Luckily I happened upon some good reviews and some detailed, specific information from Vitolo on a different forum I believe. I ordered an NO2 and felt extremely pleased about the possibilities that would soon be delivered to me in the mail. However, as it took a few days to get to me, I had some time to further research my purchase, ideally learning some tips and tricks along the way. I found this thread and began reading, for dozens of pages, a far-reaching discussion about the NO2's quality, the quality of Vapir as a company, numerous accusations (some that seemed legitimate) of fake accounts designed to boost sales.

I started to worry. I'd never invested in a product like this to anywhere near this extent, I don't even own a glass bong (lived with/friends have/bongsat many, but never owned)! But thankfully I forged a bold path ahead through the tireless acres of text that remained and came across a beacon in the darkness in the form of Vitolo's visage. Once again, offering indispensable advice, helpful tips, and generally being the best thing to come out of Arizona since the Meat Puppets, he calmed me considerably and wouldn't you know it? My NO2 came in the mail the other day! :cool:

I open the box and, with the knowledge I gleaned from the thread, took a sniff of the machine. It definitely had the electronics smell that anyone from my generation is well familiar with. But using the tips provided by Vitolo (an al bundy, another great contributor, and several others), I charged the battery while warming it up. BEFORE I did this, however, I let a circular fan blow at the unit, with battery removed (also getting fanned) to blast away the lingering packing scent. Then I plug it in and turn it on with the battery in there. I see the tiny wisp of white smoke with the top off that had been mentioned by others, which burns away completely as I continue to let it heat up and turn off while the battery charges. I also have the tubes soaking in hot water as this is happening. It's getting close to a half hour of heating up and charging and I can't wait to try it out. One thing I notice as I'm staring at it in anticipation is how much it looks like a lightsabre. I know some folks immediately thought of dildos but I think that's more them than the vaporizer. Anyway, the time finally arrives and I fine-grind (coffee grinder that has never touched coffee) some of the most crystallized bud I have ever seen. Like a goddamned winter wonderland. I start the unit from the off position and let it heat up (plugged in as it recommended an initial 12 hour charge) and around 375 I pop the top, load it up and take my first pull off of my first vaporizer.

It's glorious.

The first day I had it I got to enjoy it all day long without having to have smoked anything or felt like I smoked anything! My friends love its effectiveness, I love its efficiency, my girlfriend loves that my breath doesn't have to stink like smoke anymore. Plus it's winter now and I don't need to open a window on Sunday for my patented Get Stoned All Day And Watch Football plan, which drastically reduces the need to use my cats as warming devices.

It's been almost a week since I got it and I'm satisfied beyond belief. However, I thought since there was so much expertise in these parts that it would be a great place to ask some questions about the battery.


***Most Important and Only Really Necessary Part***
Is it better to leave it plugged in and charging most of the time? Or should it be unplugged when not in use? So far I've generally used it while plugged in since as my only vaporizer it's only had use at home (or friend's houses, but plugged in there also) and it heats up faster, but is this optimal? Basically I want to know how to extend the battery life as long as possible and whatever other tips you might have.
***Most Important and Only Really Necessary Part***


I think that's about it for my spiel/review. Once again I want to thank everyone who posted in this thread, regardless of their opinion or contribution, because even if they were unhelpful they were quickly debated by a different member and it all added up to a wealth of information that helped me become ecstatically happy with my vaporizer. Most of all thanks to Vitolo: you are totally awesome and the internet is awesome because of people like you.
 
mexicola,

vape4health

Well-Known Member
Are these still built with a soft rubber ring compressed between the top plastic funnel and the hot metal bowl, not the best way to seal something IMO.
 
vape4health,

Vitolo

Vaporist
Thanks mexicola@!
I leave unit plugged in and power switch turned on after each use.
I do shut the power off totally, when I am sure the unit has a full charge.
I turn the unit on for "heatup" while plugged in every time unless I am away from outlet. The heatup plugged in is 2 minutes.. but about 4-5 minutes not plugged.
My battery is a year old, and still will take me through 4 full sessions unplugged.
I try to always be sure battery has a full charge.

Bottom line advise.
Plug unit in to charge when you can, and leave it plugged in and turned on to charge.
Leaving it plugged in "most of the time" is safe......
When fully charged, you can leave unit turned off, and unplugged.
Preserve the battery life, by charging unit all the way to full each time.
I am glad you are vaporizing, and that you like your NO2!
 
Vitolo,

vape4health

Well-Known Member
al bundy said:
No rubber o ring seals outer edge of top to no2.
I'm talking about under the plastic funnel that you put herb in, between the brass bowl and that funnel, mine was all melted when I took it apart.
 
vape4health,

Vitolo

Vaporist
If you took your unit apart, there is a chance that you dislodged something that moved into a bad position.
I read the manual thoroughly, and found no reason for the unit to EVER be opened in this manner, so found no reason to dig any deeper.
I have used my NO2 daily for a year, and have never opened the unit, in any way other than that recommended by the manufacturer.. and I have never seen evidence of a melted Oring.
 
Vitolo,

rajsmooth

Member
hey guys i'm thinking about the NO2 as a possible vape and i'm just wondering...they are on amazon for like $99-$105 + shipping...are these units legit to get? i'm wary because i've seen it on other sites for like $180-$200 which is a HUGE drop in price, but it says on amazon it's being sold by vapir who is the manufacturer so it seems legit. i don't want to save $80-100 just to get a cheap unit that's not going to work as well or have problems down the road. anyone have experience successfully ordering an NO2 from amazon/somewhere else around the $100 price range?
 
rajsmooth,

Vitolo

Vaporist
Buy a Vapir NO2 ONLY at an authorized Dealer.
You can find cheaper vapes of many models in many places...
Vapir is very strict about warranty.
Read this entire thread, and you will see why.
There is NO legitimate "Authorized Dealer" on Amazon, and there is no authorized dealer selling for below 179, unless it is by prearranged sales events like Vapir offers now.
I would go to the Vapir Website... you can get 30% off the NO2 if you act quickly!
 
Vitolo,

vape4health

Well-Known Member
Vitolo said:
If you took your unit apart, there is a chance that you dislodged something that moved into a bad position.
I read the manual thoroughly, and found no reason for the unit to EVER be opened in this manner, so found no reason to dig any deeper.
I have used my NO2 daily for a year, and have never opened the unit, in any way other than that recommended by the manufacturer.. and I have never seen evidence of a melted Oring.

The unit wasn't used after I took it apart so all melting was OEM, and it's not an oring that melted more like a flat rubber bushing, you can clearly tell it was manufactured like that, I have pictures way back like page 20 or something. And Vitolo just because the owners manual don't mention melting rubber, that doesn't mean it's not there. Look at the area I'm explaining at a very hard angle and you can see the edge of it. I'm sure it wasn't just a hot unit because it didn't burn the load.
 
vape4health,

Vitolo

Vaporist
vape4health said:
And Vitolo just because the owners manual don't mention melting rubber, that doesn't mean it's not there.
I did not say anything about the manual mentioning melting rubber at all...
I said;
Vitolo said:
I read the manual thoroughly, and found no reason for the unit to EVER be opened in this manner, so found no reason to dig any deeper.
Sorry to take so long to respond (usually I am much faster)... but I took time to look at 6 friends NO2 units
I looked at my unit at a very hard angle, and I went around looking at friends units for half the morning.
This is what I saw.
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the sealing ring you see is not rubber, it is high heat silicone-black
Using avery fine dental tool, I was able to probe inside, and have found no melted material in any of the half dozen units I investigated today.
I also upon visual inspection saw no evidence of what you are seeing, any material that can melt.
I looked back at the post ... where you speak of a rubber ring... and I only can see images of how you altered your NO2 with a dremel tool.
I have 2 NO2 units in front of me open right now.... I see no evidence of this meltable rubber ring that you are concerned about.
 
Vitolo,

vape4health

Well-Known Member
Page 19 post #463 you can see the ring in all it melted glory. Yes same ring you have picutured, how can you be sure it's high temp silicone.
 
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