My Cloud Plus did not get nearly hot enough. I had to send it in to get turned up. It was really weak even at max. Not impressive at all. If that had been my only experence with the Cloud i would have thought the Cloud was crap. Luckly I know what a properly working Cloud is capable of. I hope there are not too many other Plus's out there that run like that.
edit: Mine was def not the placebo effect. On max it would still be very light brown, still with green specs. And that was after being warmed up for a hour+ and way too many pulls on ELB. I used to finish an ELB in 2 draws. On the C+ it never seemed to fully finish. I did a side by side with the Q and the Q out milked the Plus no problem. it wasnt even close. It was the exact opposite with my first two Clouds. I had two friends that were very familiar with the first two Clouds confirm it also (they didnt believe me).
mod note: You've reported your issues with the product/company multiple times. Your first post in the thread was a detailed 'stay away from this company' post. You don't get to repeat your problems whenever you like.
My EQ is currently capable of darkening my abv further than my cloud, which was certainly not the case with my previous ones. I wonder if mine is just underpowered? Did they send you back your same unit "turned up" or did they send you a new cloud? Thanks