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No red glow here.
Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud
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No red glow here.
Red glow here if I turn it up all the way, let it heat, then shut it off and look down.
Did a bunch more testing ... still not getting great results ... (end result is that it's getting vaped fairly well, fairly dark ABV, but it's taking quite a few hits ... I've noticed it seems to be performing much better through my Black Leaf??? ... curious ... why would there be much of a difference between vapor production based on water tool attachment?)
Did a bunch more testing ... still not getting great results ... (end result is that it's getting vaped fairly well, fairly dark ABV, but it's taking quite a few hits ... I've noticed it seems to be performing much better through my Black Leaf??? ... curious ... why would there be much of a difference between vapor production based on water tool attachment?)
SN # 031x ...
tested to make sure it's mating well with both tools and either way if when drawing I block the air intake it forms a seal so there are no leaks.
Really quite stumped ... I'm going to keep on testing as the day goes on!
Oh yeah ... and to respond to an earlier question ... the member who sold it to me says he loved his Cloud, and he's sorry to see it go, but can't justify keeping that much money tied up in something that's not getting used (and since he's not vaping very often these days, the Cloud is just overkill ...)
tested to make sure it's mating well with both tools and either way if when drawing I block the air intake it forms a seal so there are no leaks.
Really quite stumped ... I'm going to keep on testing as the day goes on!
Oh yeah ... and to respond to an earlier question ... the member who sold it to me says he loved his Cloud, and he's sorry to see it go, but can't justify keeping that much money tied up in something that's not getting used (and since he's not vaping very often these days, the Cloud is just overkill ...)
VapeNStone
Mark
Sorry to say but I think you'll use this as a learning experience. Should have waited for the international unit to come out. My unit works flawlessly on any and all water devices 
I hope everything works out for you in the end
I hope everything works out for you in the endI did the experiment again after the Cloud cooled down, but this time at 12:00 until it went green. Turned it off, definite red glow again.
Hopefully Troi or SM chime in on this..
JCat, mine doesn't take alot of hits to get the abv brown, but the abv isn't as brown as it should be (i think) even on max temp.
What are you talking about? International unit? This guy is a Canuck, we're on 110v here just like our neighbours to the south.
Hmmmm, I can empathize with that...almost am in his shoes, but not quite yet. I'm just wondering if you are having the same experience as I did when I first received mine, being so used to the EQ and Solo. I just wasn't initially floored because it didn't "milk" like I saw in the vids. However, it's pretty hard to be looking at the HT and judging properly...maybe i'll look in a mirror lol
So does your replacement Cloud NOT have the red glow after you turn it off??
Hopefully Troi or SM chime in on this..
JCat, mine doesn't take alot of hits to get the abv brown, but the abv isn't as brown as it should be (i think) even on max temp.
Sorry to say but I think you'll use this as a learning experience. Should have waited for the international unit to come out. My unit works flawlessly on any and all water devices
What are you talking about? International unit? This guy is a Canuck, we're on 110v here just like our neighbours to the south.
Hmmmm, I can empathize with that...almost am in his shoes, but not quite yet. I'm just wondering if you are having the same experience as I did when I first received mine, being so used to the EQ and Solo. I just wasn't initially floored because it didn't "milk" like I saw in the vids. However, it's pretty hard to be looking at the HT and judging properly...maybe i'll look in a mirror lol
So does your replacement Cloud NOT have the red glow after you turn it off??
VapeNStone
Mark
it is still outside of the US and I believe they classify it still as international. Honestly I'm just adding to the discussion. I have a great working awesome cloud!! lol
That's a pretty negative attitude ... I like to believe the best in people and why wouldn't I buy a lightly used unit? If this is indeed defective, although it's a pain, assuming the person that sold it to me did so in good faith, since it had the issue before I got it, hopefully VXC will be able to honour it ... otherwise, I should be able to send it back to him for a refund (less shipping or whatever we workout since like I said ... I believe he sold it to me in good faith) ... after which he can make a warranty claim if he wishes if this is deffective (and not just user error and me not able to get it figured out yet!)Sorry to say but I think you'll use this as a learning experience. Should have waited for the international unit to come out. My unit works flawlessly on any and all water devices
@vape4life, I believe the abv is getting dark enough on mine for my liking ... at about the 3:00 position.
I'm not the only one in Canada that got one ... same electrical service here! (and we're supposed to have free trade
) ... they were shipping to Canada from my understanding, and I haven't gotten a clear answer yet, but I'm not sure if there not shipping now just because of technical reasons or if there are other reasons as well.Does yours have the glow?? lol
VapeNStone
Mark
I'm going to check a little later. I have a few appointments that I can't be all vaked for lol And I can't turn on my cloud without using it 
Sounds identical to my Cloud.... i think we both have the older firmware, so our 3:00 is other people's 12:00, but the min/max temps are supposed to be the same.
Next, maybe try max temp and see what the abv is like. I'd post a pic of mine, but the camera really never reflects its true colour.
My thing is I should be able to vape a bowl of .2 in 2-3 hits (like with my Magick Wand for example) ... I'm just not getting that type of cloud production with the cloud through the hydratube ... (the ABV color is ok at 3:00 +) ... I haven't fully played around with letting heat at different temps etc. though ...
If the abv is ok at 3:00 and onward then that sounds right. Mine is exactly the same, I think it's the algorythem that is throwing me off, since it's not simply linear (because they wanted 12:00 the sweet spot).
I don't think I can vape .2 in 2-3 hits, MAYBE on MAX temp, but I have big strong lungs, and it still goes for a half dozen hits or so, with the 2nd and 3rd being the biggest.
I'm thinking both of our units are working fine, just wanna clarify the orange glow.
Fuck I miss using my Cloud, and it's only been 3 days! lol
EDIT: How often do you guys clean your HT? For me it's daily because it gets all yellow at the bottom. i don't reclaim..
I don't think I can vape .2 in 2-3 hits, MAYBE on MAX temp, but I have big strong lungs, and it still goes for a half dozen hits or so, with the 2nd and 3rd being the biggest.
I'm thinking both of our units are working fine, just wanna clarify the orange glow.
Fuck I miss using my Cloud, and it's only been 3 days! lol
EDIT: How often do you guys clean your HT? For me it's daily because it gets all yellow at the bottom. i don't reclaim..
Ok, probably not the problem at all, but I'll just throw this out there. Are you sure your meds are top quality and have been ground up enough? Again, they probably are, but I have found that certain meds work better than others. For example, I switched to a new Skunk #1 (Mr. Nice The Shit) and my first session nearly put me on my ass. I had one hit that was so intense I just couldn't believe it. I have also run all kinds of great medicine through it with big differences in cloud production from one to another.
Again, I am just throwing it out there. Probably isn't going to pertain to your situation, JCat- but it might be an explanation for someone else BTW, I still use my EQ when cleaning my ELBs, and while I have always loved it (and still do) the Cloud kick's it's ass.
Again, I am just throwing it out there. Probably isn't going to pertain to your situation, JCat- but it might be an explanation for someone else
BTW, I still use my EQ when cleaning my ELBs, and while I have always loved it (and still do) the Cloud kick's it's ass.^^^^+1 HUGE variance in cloud production depending on herb quality. JCat really needs to try some kief in there!
I can't get the ELBs 100% clean on the very bottom...i've soaked in iso, brush, boiled, baked, but there is a small percentage of the little holes still blocked. not a huge deal, maybe i should bathe them in iso more regularily.
I can't get the ELBs 100% clean on the very bottom...i've soaked in iso, brush, boiled, baked, but there is a small percentage of the little holes still blocked. not a huge deal, maybe i should bathe them in iso more regularily.
Ok ... here's an update ... I think it's user error! This is like my 12th or 13th vape or something and (go figure) still a learning curve 
I'm use to having to ease back on how hard I pull (with a lot of vapes you want to pull more gently, not more vigorously). This is what I was doing with the hydratube/cloud ... I guess with the Black Leaf because it has a lot more resistance on it's own, I was pulling harder, resulting in bigger clouds, but still not phenomenal.
I just tried one pulling quite hard as opposed to gently, and, wow! It worked with nice big Clouds! (maybe 3-4 hits where the 4th was kinda' abv tasting). The Cloud had been heating for a good 20-30 min. probably though too although I don't think that's it as I tried 2 elbs and the first I did using the Black Leaf, and the 2nd with the hydratube ... I started to figure it out with the first elb with the black leaf ... and got it figured out by 1/4 of the way through the 2nd pull using the hydratube.)
Pretty sure it's not the meds or I wouldn't get such good results with other vapes (I'm aware of the differences there too ... and better vapor producers doesn't necessarily mean better meds, but usually does take less to get there ... I have about a dozen different strains right now so have fooled around with that ... I know what to expect from them so really what I'm after is comparable or better results with better taste, easier cleaning/maintenance, less tubes, wires, etc., ....)
I've turned it off and am going to let it cool down ... I'll see if I can wait until after my meeting to try again. Good thing (sort of) my tolerance is pretty much "at limit" right now ... which means I sort-of plateau where anything >2.5g / day doesn't really have much effect ... apart from maintenance ... been working long days and nights only stopping really to eat, sleep a little, and vape. (And post on this forum which seems to be an obsession of mine these days ...)
Anyways ... back to work ... I'll post again after my next session!
Funny thing is, unless there is a more serious problem then me having to run it at 3 as opposed to 12, I'd rather keep it then send it in for replacement as just shipping costs both ways would cost about $120 (that would be for 8-10 business days total transport time assuming a processing time of <1 day for warranty work)
Still hoping the VXC crew will sell me an "extended" warranty on the unit if it is not transferable ... as if something more serious goes wrong with it, I'd prefer to be covered.
I have a good sized jar of kief but considering this is what I've sampled so far today testing my cloud, I don't think it's necessary. (I should be able to get as big clouds with my Cloud, or bigger, with the same meds, as with my Magick Wand or Extreme Q ...)
- Strawberry Diesel (pre-cloud)
- C-4 (pre-cloud)
Picked up Cloud at post office!
- Strawberry Diesel
- Headband
- XXX
- Skunk Berry
- Double Trouble
- GrapeFruit
- ...
That's just what I can remember specifically trying ... I'm sure I've missed some as well as messed up the order ... at any rate ... don't think the kief should be necessary ... at this point my workshop should be pretty cloudy
I'm use to having to ease back on how hard I pull (with a lot of vapes you want to pull more gently, not more vigorously). This is what I was doing with the hydratube/cloud ... I guess with the Black Leaf because it has a lot more resistance on it's own, I was pulling harder, resulting in bigger clouds, but still not phenomenal.
I just tried one pulling quite hard as opposed to gently, and, wow! It worked with nice big Clouds! (maybe 3-4 hits where the 4th was kinda' abv tasting). The Cloud had been heating for a good 20-30 min. probably though too although I don't think that's it as I tried 2 elbs and the first I did using the Black Leaf, and the 2nd with the hydratube ... I started to figure it out with the first elb with the black leaf ... and got it figured out by 1/4 of the way through the 2nd pull using the hydratube.)
Pretty sure it's not the meds or I wouldn't get such good results with other vapes (I'm aware of the differences there too ... and better vapor producers doesn't necessarily mean better meds, but usually does take less to get there ... I have about a dozen different strains right now so have fooled around with that ... I know what to expect from them so really what I'm after is comparable or better results with better taste, easier cleaning/maintenance, less tubes, wires, etc., ....)
I've turned it off and am going to let it cool down ... I'll see if I can wait until after my meeting to try again. Good thing (sort of) my tolerance is pretty much "at limit" right now ... which means I sort-of plateau where anything >2.5g / day doesn't really have much effect ... apart from maintenance ... been working long days and nights only stopping really to eat, sleep a little, and vape. (And post on this forum which seems to be an obsession of mine these days ...)
Anyways ... back to work ... I'll post again after my next session!
Funny thing is, unless there is a more serious problem then me having to run it at 3 as opposed to 12, I'd rather keep it then send it in for replacement as just shipping costs both ways would cost about $120 (that would be for 8-10 business days total transport time assuming a processing time of <1 day for warranty work)
Still hoping the VXC crew will sell me an "extended" warranty on the unit if it is not transferable ... as if something more serious goes wrong with it, I'd prefer to be covered.
I have a good sized jar of kief but considering this is what I've sampled so far today testing my cloud, I don't think it's necessary. (I should be able to get as big clouds with my Cloud, or bigger, with the same meds, as with my Magick Wand or Extreme Q ...)
- Strawberry Diesel (pre-cloud)
- C-4 (pre-cloud)
Picked up Cloud at post office!
- Strawberry Diesel
- Headband
- XXX
- Skunk Berry
- Double Trouble
- GrapeFruit
- ...
That's just what I can remember specifically trying ... I'm sure I've missed some as well as messed up the order
... at any rate ... don't think the kief should be necessary ... at this point my workshop should be pretty cloudy 
At one point, we thought a glowing heater was an indicator of a failing unit. After more research, pretty much all of the units have a glow when it is at its hottest. The glow is NORMAL and nothing to worry about. Now if your unit isn't working right, then that is another issue.
I forgot to mention that as I too experimented with different draw speeds, and yeah I recall Weedemon saying that those with monster lungs will be at an advantage. Pull hard, and you'll probably snap through those ELBs much quicker.
$120 inc. return shipping? wow, that's up there....no need to use the original box though, just wrapped in bubble wrap and then an appropriately sized box since no HT and shouldnt cost more than $30 to get there.
I guess VXL doesn't pick up the tab for the return shipping?
EDIT: THANKS SM!!!! Definitely eases my worries, and in fact if i'm getting a red glow after I turn it off at noon makes me think my unit is definitely hot enough.
$120 inc. return shipping? wow, that's up there....no need to use the original box though, just wrapped in bubble wrap and then an appropriately sized box since no HT and shouldnt cost more than $30 to get there.
I guess VXL doesn't pick up the tab for the return shipping?
EDIT: THANKS SM!!!! Definitely eases my worries, and in fact if i'm getting a red glow after I turn it off at noon makes me think my unit is definitely hot enough.
I paid yesterday for my vape + express shipping and never got any confirmation of shipment info just a confirmation of my order. I see the charge on my credit card ... any way to tell when it will ship? Really appreciate the help in advance! CANNOT WAIT FOR MY CLOUD ANY LONGER!!!
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Not to worry, it is typical not to see your shipping/tracking info until 24 hours after it is generated. This is just an observation I have made watching VXL operate, and I think it relates to managing consumer expectations, but this is pure speculation on my part. I wouldn't worry
Cool ... all right ... I can't wait any longer ... I guess I'll have a session before my meeting
I'm going to go turn it on to let it heat up right after writing this.Maybe not $120 ... maybe $60-70 without the HT (depends on size, weight, etc. ... was about $60 to get it here from California) ... I'm 2 days shipping from Toronto (no matter how you ship, 2 days is the minimum from Toronto to here).
I wouldn't expect them to pick up any tab for any warranty work they do as I did get the unit off another member ...
Yes ... actually ... I am!
Edit: Session before meeting ... AWESOME ... put elb in, took 3 huge draws:
- 1st ... large cloud, took about half the pull to get going
- 2nd ... very large cloud, went the whole time
- 3rd ... wispy ... not particularly worth it.
Next time (to attempt)
- 1st ... primer ... going for wispy
- 2nd ... large
- 3rd ... large
Edit: Session before meeting ... AWESOME ... put elb in, took 3 huge draws:
- 1st ... large cloud, took about half the pull to get going
- 2nd ... very large cloud, went the whole time
- 3rd ... wispy ... not particularly worth it.
Next time (to attempt)
- 1st ... primer ... going for wispy
- 2nd ... large
- 3rd ... large
Not to worry, it is typical not to see your shipping/tracking info until 24 hours after it is generated. This is just an observation I have made watching VXL operate, and I think it relates to managing consumer expectations, but this is pure speculation on my part. I wouldn't worry
Thanks dude I appreciate the heads up on that ... still haven't seen anything from VXC other than that confirmation but I'm certain that's because the website is down. Just wondering if my item went out today for tomorrow delivery or if I'll have to wait a few extra days. Hoping it's not the latter as I spent an additional $30 for the quick delivery but ah such is life when you're constantly waiting for packages heh...
What temp, and how much meds? That seems to be pretty bang on. Glad to hear it!