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Sounds like cracked bamboo
Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO
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arf777
No longer dogless
That's what I'd think. Except it started mid-session with no drop or bump. Can the bamboo crack spontaneously? Or be cracked for a while but only start overheating days later?Sounds like cracked bamboo
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I dont think so, I do know its easy to fracture glass while being unaware youve done so. So you couldve broken it accidentally
I'm pretty sure this is a cracked bamboo based on your description. We will walk you through your support case when our agents are online.
arf777
No longer dogless
Dang. I'm due to quit cigarettes a week from tomorrow. Will be much harder sans the EVO.
Mud
Well-Known Member
What is the bamboo that everyone speaks of? I can only see glass when I look through the holes.. And knowing boro, a fall could have definitely caused a microfracture that successive heating and cooling expanded. Or it could have not been annealed properly, but i doubt that was the case.
Little Update on mine, been using the EVO on all my tubes, love it. Now to find some 18mm female adapters, lookin at the ones on ALT for 24 bucks each atm.
Little Update on mine, been using the EVO on all my tubes, love it. Now to find some 18mm female adapters, lookin at the ones on ALT for 24 bucks each atm.
neve13
i think i overmedicated.
I got my Evo less than three weeks ago and the bamboo on my unit spontaneously cracked the other night. It was working fine with ELB's but when I switched to the VapexNail the nail wouldn't slide all the way in. I peered inside and saw the glass had fractured and a few small shards were preventing the nail from sliding all the way in. I truly have no idea how this happened. I've never dropped my evo or mishandled it ,nor did any water get inside. The support squad told me that glass breaks aren't covered by the warranty and it will cost me $88 to fix. I still have my OG Ticker to keep me in the clouds but I'm super bummed I have to spend more money to fix this; especially since it's so new.
Shrike
Flower Potted, Maxed, & Rio'd.
I may be expressing my naiveté here...
Is there some way to tell the difference between a glass failure from thermal shock or imperfection and glass failure from someone miss-handling their EVO?
Obviously, if you break it you own it and should have to pay to have it repaired. But, if the cause was from either glass imperfection or from thermal shock...shouldn't something like that be covered by the warranty?
I know that if my EVO were to suddenly crack and I know that I didn't cause it...I'd be pretty pissed to have to drop $88 more for something I know I didn't cause.
Again...if there is no way for VapeXhale to tell the difference, then I understand why they have to charge regardless of the causal effect...
Is there some way to tell the difference between a glass failure from thermal shock or imperfection and glass failure from someone miss-handling their EVO?
Obviously, if you break it you own it and should have to pay to have it repaired. But, if the cause was from either glass imperfection or from thermal shock...shouldn't something like that be covered by the warranty?
I know that if my EVO were to suddenly crack and I know that I didn't cause it...I'd be pretty pissed to have to drop $88 more for something I know I didn't cause.
Again...if there is no way for VapeXhale to tell the difference, then I understand why they have to charge regardless of the causal effect...
newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
There is a way we can tell what caused the bamboo to break. In most instances, we have just been repairing them on our dime but as we examined them more closely we have been able to identify what kind of break it caused. Here are the most common forms of breakage:
1. Our heater was wrapped too tightly during assembly and as the glass expands, it would crack against the heater. These have multiple fracture points and is very easily identifiable and we cover these for free.
2. If the heater over heats and warps the glass and it isn't used, the glass has a very specific look to it, again, this is something that we cover.
3. If the user drops the EVO and a small crack appears, it is usually in an isolated area.
4. If the user gets joint lock with the HydraTube and EVO and the bamboo breaks when they are pulling the two joints apart, that shows a much cleaner break.
I will talk to the service team about a new process where we can receive the unit, examine it, and then respond with our findings.
@neve13 - PM me your name and we'll get you figured out.
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One thing my G.A.S has taught me is angles with glass are very, very fragile. By that I mean the angles that glass takes impact (not always a lot of impact) can be what some call a perfect storm at times for breakage. I've almost literally cried watching precious glass fracture from kissing thin cheap glass at perfect(actually terrible) angles. Hell my son hurled a pacifier across the room and sent a spiderweb through a piece. You can unintentionally and unknowingly break glass
Skuma
Well-Known Member
This would be great!
When I sent my EVO because the bamboo cracked (I didn't misshandled it in any way) all I was told was that the glass wasn't covered and I paid the 88$.
I would love to see what you propose SM in case my bamboo brakes again.
Mud
Well-Known Member
Makes sense, I'm going to cross my fingers and hope mine works like a charm for a long long time. Probably not going to try the VXN's though, they worry me a bit.
To the people who say this thing helps you conserve, it does the opposite for me. I get such nice smooth tasty rips that I end up smoking much more than before lol.
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This was my initial problem but extensive research has cured it. I'm down to 2elb sessions vs 6 with the cloud+
aj0125
Well-Known Member
I am glad that the VXL team is addressing this. When I first got my EVO I noticed that there is a teeny tiny chip at the very top of the gong lip (this is fresh out of the box, never been touched) but my unit worked great so I did not worry about it. Now I am starting to get worried that the bamboo was defective and it will eventually break from normal use (saying I baby it would be the understatement of the century) and I will have to pay and extra $88 I do not have.
hamm_bamma
New Member
I must be doing something wrong. I really enjoy hitting my oils and ice wax with the double cap method, but I was stoked when VapeXhale announced the glass path for doing oils and waxes. I bought two the day they were available on the site. The first day they arrived, and after watching a few videos of people using them with the EVO set to full, I dropped a nice gewy ball of ice wax in it, dropped it into the EVO and got my SSG Tube, by the time i turned around to the EVO there was smoke coming up out of the Nail, and I was like wow get up on that vapor, pulled and it was pur combustion burning... Yikes!!! I then was like ok that's too hot maybe the 30 seconds i took prepping the Tube with ICe was too long, dropped the dial down to noon, got the other nail put a little bit of oil in it, and dropped it and pull, same thing (I wait for it to cool for about 30 mins as i was coughing for 20 after that first rip)... I took some time to clean my glass, clean the nails, and try again, this time with the dial set at 7 just barely on. It hit nice and smooth, but it wasn't shortly after being in there for about 45-60 seconds before it started to over heat again. It seems very tedious to me to have to fill, drop pull, pull... Is this the normal operation of the EVO + Nail? Or am I just over thinking this? Also while cleaning one of the nails, with hot PBW water and a eyelash brush, I broke it at the slit point neck. Be very gentle with these things...
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Sorry you didn't quote the videos you watched. Had you done some reading here you would have known how to avoid this. Less is more with EVO. Smaller dab, less heat. I have no way of knowing how your particular EVO "reacts" but I do know that putting oil in the nail at max temp creates a boiling, frying pan effect, that burns. There is no need to do this.
Enchantre
Oil Painter
Less is way, way more.
Here are my findings, so far:
I'm using, for a single dab in the VXN, just about a crumb of shatter/crumble (either one - a bit less shatter than crumble, per se). About a fourth, maybe, of what I would use for a dab on the oil rig (which is about half a "normal" dab size, from what I see in person and on YouTube)...
we tried to weigh one, a couple of different ways, and the closest we could get was about 0.03 g (excellent scale from amazon).
The EVO is set to Noon. I have not detected any advantage, yet, in going lower, and going higher seems less desirable to me at this time.
Try not to drop the VXN into the bamboo. I am catching myself.
It starts vaporizing so quickly, that I don't really need to pre-clear the tube.
I can almost finish the vapor cloud... the rest burns off nicely; just about when the bamboo goes green again, at full max, the residue is gone.
I've got a video, that pretty much sucks. I'll be back soon to post it. Really.
Oh, hey... and the effects I'm getting from this tiny crumb of concentrate, at a lower temp, is really, really deep.
Video:
Here are my findings, so far:
I'm using, for a single dab in the VXN, just about a crumb of shatter/crumble (either one - a bit less shatter than crumble, per se). About a fourth, maybe, of what I would use for a dab on the oil rig (which is about half a "normal" dab size, from what I see in person and on YouTube)...
we tried to weigh one, a couple of different ways, and the closest we could get was about 0.03 g (excellent scale from amazon).
The EVO is set to Noon. I have not detected any advantage, yet, in going lower, and going higher seems less desirable to me at this time.
Try not to drop the VXN into the bamboo. I am catching myself.
It starts vaporizing so quickly, that I don't really need to pre-clear the tube.
I can almost finish the vapor cloud... the rest burns off nicely; just about when the bamboo goes green again, at full max, the residue is gone.
I've got a video, that pretty much sucks. I'll be back soon to post it. Really.
Oh, hey... and the effects I'm getting from this tiny crumb of concentrate, at a lower temp, is really, really deep.
Video:
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newVaper420
Vapor Enthusiast
Ok FC community I need your help. As I have mentioned before, I have no access to concentrates. Or..... so I thought. I just found out today that I can get them.
Well, here is the dilemma.
1. I've never used concentrates before, so I'm a bit nervous about using it. I also have no idea what I will be getting. I heard the term "wax" when I asked about concentrates. I mentioned wax and shatter, but at the end all I heard back was wax.
2. I would really like to buy a VapeXNail, however, I do not feel like spending $50 dollars to "try" something. I am already spending the money on the concentrate. If I could buy 1 VapeXNail, then I would absolutely buy it right now. But why should I buy two of something if I'm not even sure I'm ever going to use this again?
3. That being said, should I just use the two cap method, would that work fine for me to let me know if I like concentrates?
Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it. Again, 1 VapeXNail, and I would buy it today/right now, not a question. I just don't see buying two of something I may not use ever again (not because it won't work, but because I may not like concentrates, or whatever).
Well, here is the dilemma.
1. I've never used concentrates before, so I'm a bit nervous about using it. I also have no idea what I will be getting. I heard the term "wax" when I asked about concentrates. I mentioned wax and shatter, but at the end all I heard back was wax.
2. I would really like to buy a VapeXNail, however, I do not feel like spending $50 dollars to "try" something. I am already spending the money on the concentrate. If I could buy 1 VapeXNail, then I would absolutely buy it right now. But why should I buy two of something if I'm not even sure I'm ever going to use this again?
3. That being said, should I just use the two cap method, would that work fine for me to let me know if I like concentrates?
Thanks for your input, I really appreciate it. Again, 1 VapeXNail, and I would buy it today/right now, not a question. I just don't see buying two of something I may not use ever again (not because it won't work, but because I may not like concentrates, or whatever).
Hioctane
Vaked
You basically have to keep the water half way up the cap between the bottom of the cap and the top outer cuts in the glass cap...turn upside down and blow in the bottom to get any water out of the lower portion.