Justpassedu
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No not that any of us know of .
Discontinued VapeXhale Cloud EVO
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mmafighterthe25
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I remember talking to them. Year ago they where thinking something early 2017 or late 2016
Justpassedu
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Yeah awhile back they stated they would be working on a portable possibly but nobody has heard anything. They have not announced anything new though for a bit. If your on the fence I'd say def get the current Evo , its amazing if you don't already own 1. I check the forum regularly so its safe to say nothing new is coming and if something is it will be a surprise to most of us here.
mmafighterthe25
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OK I had an evo but soldd it I had a lot vapes
Justpassedu
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Same but I'd never sell my Evo , unless a new one was announced and proven to be better. Every vape I have owned and tried will never compare to the cloudage the Evo provides and quick extraction.
shaolinmilk
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Yup I would never sell my EVO. I would be extremely sad if I had to part ways with it. It's definitely without a doubt in my top 3.
Likes2vape
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I spoke to a Vapexhale rep at the Chalice fest this weekend and he said there is a new digital EVO and a portable coming out hopefully by the end of the year! I tried to pry more info out of him but he wouldn't give up much details other than the portable will be convection heating!
shaolinmilk
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A portable EVO? Okay I'm in.
Justpassedu
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That's amazing I'd most likely get both , def the digital desktop and I'd still keep my original evo. As for a portable I'd prob have to see that 1st. There desktop tech is def proven but they never made a portable and some companies that have tried making portables after having proven desktops did not do so well with them, of course I am rooting for vapexhale though.
ataxian
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I hate portables and think the technology is not there yet!
I use a SOLO that is dirt cheap for reading.
For a BUSINESS to go after the portable market?
Sounds unprofitable?
The EVO I love.
Justpassedu
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I think you just have not tried the right portables. The tech is def there with a few of them. As best as it can be for this day and age. Some hit like desktops , they all have there strong and weak points. The Mighty hits hard , like a desktop , gets good battery life but its big and ugly imo . I believe it will even work while plugged in. There are few out there that hit the mark for me. They hold a place in today's society , some place's you just cant take a desktop w/you. I agree there is def room for improvement but the same can be said for desktops. I think you just did not have the greatest experience's with the portables you have used. The solo is nice , I like my air better , they hit the same , a bit better airflow on the air but on the plus side you can stock up on batteries and replace at any time , once the solo is dead its time for a re-charge.
Seek
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That looks just like photos of some bamboos of the early international units that runaway overheat.
The bamboo got heated by the heater so much it deformed there, it's clearly visible on the second photo.
Definitely get it warrantied. That shouldn't happen and cannot be an user error.
ataxian
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I still think for a collector buy all the portables you can. (waste your $)
For me it's a medical device that comforts me.
The EVO taste really nice and puts me in a self induced COMA when needed. (I have STRAIN'S)
During the day out in my garden I use a SOLO. (don't want to be incoherent while I read)
Also I would never walk in public with a glass of wine?
Why vaporize in public?
Long road trips just use a invert-er with a plug in.
My SOLO has 3800 MaH battery pack and needs charging once a week.
I have a @OF GIZMO so I may have a different POV?
Batteries I hate and think most of them are dated.
The EVO taste better than any portable.
I tried a few portables but they tasted like SHIT!
waxdab23
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Thank you.
Yup, process has been started to ship my unit in for repair.
Funny the deformity is clearly visible to you. I thought so too, but VXL looked at the same picture and said it looked perfectly fine lol. I think they'll realize the issue when they have it in hand. Should be all good.
Of course their T&C say that if they determine it was user error, then the customer would be responsible for the repair cost, so hopefully they also concur that it was due to a manufacturing defect.
Justpassedu
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I am not a collector & I don't feel it is a waste at all. To each is own . Everyone has different needs , if I go to the beach or a concert I am not gonna take my Evo with me. There are some with medical needs that need a portable and have to medicate when not near an outlet. It's not just about walking around in public and vaping. That is something I rarely do. As for a long road trip , you'd most likely be driving through a non medical state , your portable is easier to stash and hide if need be. Driving around vaping out of a Evo tethered to a inverter is just down right ridiculous lol. I can understand if your camping.Your contradicting your self since you own a Solo. Battery technology has come such a long way in time and keeps getting better and better. Your upgraded 3800mah battery is great but that depends on usage , I use allot , all my vapes are in my nightly rotation. My air last about 5-6 sessions per charge at 7 minutes a session , when it gets low I just swap for another battery and I am not even using my Panasonic 3400mahs in it which would def last a bit longer. Don't be so stubborn bc you had bad experiences with some portables , anyway your a cool dude @ataxian , I wont sit in this thread and argue it anymore , I wish you were close by so I could show you some portables and give you a lesson. Yes they don't perform as crazy good as the Evo but taste wise some have it beat easily , cloud wise some can come close but the Evo will always be King in my book. Please don't get offended by my reply , we are all friends & here to help each other.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I'm shaking your cage!
I mean no harm.
Experience wise I tasted a lot of gross portables so yes I'm very JADED.
i live in a medical state so invertors are the best way to go.
When I go boating a WAX PEN full of SHATTER is the most stealth!
I use a few different plug-ins and added plugs in my GARDEN.
My SOLO won't die so I use it when gardening or reading.
I changed the battery pack from 2200 to 3800 maH so it won't die?
When I grew up we had fields of CANNABIS COLAS and it was free if you were a SURFER.
So yes I'm JADED.
We did not have PC POLICE or the INTERNET. (black and green screens and a 8088 CPU)
Sorry I'm a bit out dated?
I did ask you what your option was for the best PORTABLE for me?
The young guns seem to know what's up.
I don't like thing's that taste like SHIT.
At least the EVO taste great.
I have a lot of vaporizers collecting dust & most of my portables are dead?
SORRY to offend!
I only have INDICAS right now so I'm not in good shape! (even my SHATTER is INDICA?)
This afternoon I'll get some SATIVA and life will be worth living.
Again Sorry for being a DICK!
Can I say that?
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herbivore21
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It truly is a versatile creature! I love those flower one-hitters myself too! I tend to use the dry mouthpiece mostly but sometimes connect to various rigs of mine (a ball rig for flowers and a mini-rig with simple 3 hole diffuser for hash).
You guys know I seldom vaped flowers for a long time! These days, I have been working at ways of vaping flowers without the harsh end of the bowl throat hit (and have succeeded, we'll come to this later).
I am a full time full melt dabbin' kind of guy and I caved and bought an evo (gotta thank @ataxian for the original recommendation so long ago!) not long ago predominately for use with 4.5 star hashes.
Now I never used the vapexnails, IMO they seem easy to break, go further inside the bamboo than I want to put anything and of course probably most importantly, I already have a sapphire halo.
However, as waxdab has mentioned above, some SS wool pieces from an S & B mighty concentrate pad (haven't seen the new style ones yet, but they sound great too!) mean that you can stick to ELB's for dabbing and full melt without trouble and without compromising flavor. If it doesn't melt enough, I stick it in an SS sandwich and hit it in the EVO. If it's a 6 star hash, dabbing on the sapphire is my preference.
I don't use so much rosin anymore, but what I have found very useful in the absence of nice hash is to take 4 x .15g calyxes of your favorite herb, squish 3 of those into rosin and then collect said rosin and smear it around the side of your remaining calyx (leaving the top and bottom of calyx dab free so that you can handle it without stickiness). You should end up with somewhere near a 1:1 ratio of nug to rosin here (roughly .15g of each, enough for one hell of a bowl!).
Now cut up this dab soaked nug with CLEAN scissors (also use deft, quick cutting movements to avoid too much contact with blades and nug). When you have cut the nug up reasonably fine with a few slightly coarse bits, load an ELB as normal and hit it at about 2 o'clock on the dial. It helps to use oil of a shattery consistency so that you can pull any remaining bits that get stuck on the scissors off easily.
What you will get is a bowl of flower that doesn't get harsh until the oil has been spent. 6-10 complete white-wall rips with beautiful flavor! The goal of spreading the oil around the surface of the nug is that when the hot air passes through, the oil is melted and wicks into the pieces of the remaining calyx evenly enough to prevent the plant material from degrading until the oil buffer wicked into the plant material is mostly spent. The combination of rosin and flower in this way provides flavor that approximates that of an unpressed, uncured full melt (but does not come close to a well-cured, gently hand-pressed full melt hash!).
Hope this is helpful for some of you guys. I will warn that this kind of flower/rosin bowl (especially if you use bigger calyxes with more rosin still!) is for high dosage users. Do not do one of these bowls during the day if you usually have small dabs or flowers only. You will fall asleep for a while! lol
Justpassedu
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No offense taken at all my man. I know you for awhile here. Your cool. I'm 34yrs old , when I 1st started the screens were black & green also and we were playing the Oregon trail. I just know you had bad experiences with certain portables and wanted to say they are all not bad. The solo is an amazing machine. I agree quickest easiest stealth is the wax pen. It's amazing how technology has come so far. I just like my flowers on the go sometimes also as the wax and shatter in my parts is a bit pricey and harder to come by. I stand by the mighty vaporizer as a portable & have mentioned it to you in the past. Yeah it's big and ugly and plastic but it taste amazing , gets decent battery life , produces huge clouds and has a decent battery life. There are others I am partial to also. I havnt got my grasshopper yet so I can't comment on that , love the solo and air and my pax2 always does me right. I get many sessions out of a charge with that 1 , but if ya looking to get close to a desktop with a portable so far the mighty is the closest I have tried and taste I feel is a bit better than the evo, maybe bc of the shorter air path .
ataxian
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I will get a MIGHTY if they don't change their government to SHARIA LAW?
JOINT'S I love however they hate me!
@herbivore21 the EVO has been good to me.
Nice to see you doing FLOWERS!
SHATTER is cheap right now so I don't make it any more. (not worth it)
KIEF is also cheap?
With CALIFORNIA becoming legal in 2017 the LAW'S will change on a GLOBAL scale!
@2 Cycle = DIVER DAN
herbivore21
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Whoa haha I am not sure where Sharia Law came into the discussion lol
I hope you are most well sir, it has been a long time! Man we are both in agreement that joints are wonderful but come at a cost to ones' health. I'm so glad you've got cheap and abundant shatter available to you now!
Hey have you ever tried full melt by the way? I seem to remember long long ago you used to have so many beautiful colas that you had to destroy some just to stay on the right side of local regulations - this is an ideal situation to start churning out enough full melt to use nothing but full melt all year round! Low yields don't necessarily matter in your situation!
If you ever wanna give full melt bubble a shot, drop me a PM! I'd love to see you enjoying the wonderful resin you produce on those colas in its finest form (IMHO of course). It is profound the difference that is made (presumably by the extra terps) in full melt vs other concentrates, I have found that full melt especially improves mood better than other concentrates. We sick folks can all use a lift in our mood when we're experiencing seriously debilitating symptoms, I'm sure you can relate my brother! I have found that we can also make up the relative THC deficit seen in full melts vs shatters with careful hand pressing and curing of full melt.
If you can manage to get more of that THCA to become THC without losing terpenes by hand pressing hash (use nitrile gloves!) and curing it in the form of a temple ball, you'll reap increased THC dividends while retaining higher terp concentrations. Remember that not all THC is efficiently absorbed into the body when we dab, especially when we low temp dab. We've had one or two scholarly studies posted here in the past explaining this.
By getting that THCA to decarb without the usual extreme terp loss associated with higher heats, we can achieve a higher transfer efficiency for THC (simply put, more of the potential d-9-THC from your dab goes into your body in the active form, rather than being absorbed in the less psychoactive THCA form or not at all). Basically, we can get similar THC absorption to higher THC shatters while still benefiting from additional terps vs other methods.
I also find that a well pressed (at hand temp with gloves in a cold dry room, no additional heat) temple ball will have a shatter-like solid outer membrane that prevents oxidation of the hash inside. After a month untouched in a cool dry place, a full melt temple ball will take on a flavor and effect profile that just cannot be had from flowers or shatter or any combination thereof. I find that such hashes develop a complex, exotic spice/perfume like smell with a flavor to match and a noticeable uplifting effect. Cured hashes like these also are much smoother on the throat whichever way you inhale them. I'd love to get before and after test panels on such material to see what has happened at the chemical level with more certainty!
Btw, less is more with full melt! No need for huge dabs like you see on youtube which are wasteful in the extreme and most of whose vapor is lost floating into the air above the nail. I only ever dab .03g of full melt at a time, typically. Higher doses of this sort of cured full melt can have a very psychadelic effect beyond what I've ever experienced from anything else, but IME only ever a very pleasant one. If you do not have a busy work schedule like me (if not for this, I'd indulge larger doses more frequently lol) and especially if you deal with very intrusive pain symptoms, I am sure this will work wonders
I should finish by saying that even 6 star full melt is wonderful in the Evo between SS pads. It is also very efficient, you can completely eliminate trails and keep hitting your bowl over as long a period as you like (removing the ELB in between sessions) until no vapor or flavor emerges anymore
I am sure the same can be said for shatter and any other kind of concentrate!In my view, somebody who has very little supply of a favorite high quality concentrate would do well to use the evo with SS sandwich tek instead of dabbing it, as they'll be more likely to get every single bit of goodness out of each dab!
KimDracula
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I don't get five or six star full melts 'round here but when I super-charge flower ELBs with hash, kief, or BHO it's a fun time. I also prefer this over the VXNs at times. I often end up using more concentrate than necessary and taking a nap.
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I scare everyone with my massive colas.Whoa haha I am not sure where Sharia Law came into the discussion lol
I hope you are most well sir, it has been a long time! Man we are both in agreement that joints are wonderful but come at a cost to ones' health. I'm so glad you've got cheap and abundant shatter available to you now!
Hey have you ever tried full melt by the way? I seem to remember long long ago you used to have so many beautiful colas that you had to destroy some just to stay on the right side of local regulations - this is an ideal situation to start churning out enough full melt to use nothing but full melt all year round! Low yields don't necessarily matter in your situation!
If you ever wanna give full melt bubble a shot, drop me a PM! I'd love to see you enjoying the wonderful resin you produce on those colas in its finest form (IMHO of course). It is profound the difference that is made (presumably by the extra terps) in full melt vs other concentrates, I have found that full melt especially improves mood better than other concentrates. We sick folks can all use a lift in our mood when we're experiencing seriously debilitating symptoms, I'm sure you can relate my brother! I have found that we can also make up the relative THC deficit seen in full melts vs shatters with careful hand pressing and curing of full melt.
If you can manage to get more of that THCA to become THC without losing terpenes by hand pressing hash (use nitrile gloves!) and curing it in the form of a temple ball, you'll reap increased THC dividends while retaining higher terp concentrations. Remember that not all THC is efficiently absorbed into the body when we dab, especially when we low temp dab. We've had one or two scholarly studies posted here in the past explaining this.
By getting that THCA to decarb without the usual extreme terp loss associated with higher heats, we can achieve a higher transfer efficiency for THC (simply put, more of the potential d-9-THC from your dab goes into your body in the active form, rather than being absorbed in the less psychoactive THCA form or not at all). Basically, we can get similar THC absorption to higher THC shatters while still benefiting from additional terps vs other methods.
I also find that a well pressed (at hand temp with gloves in a cold dry room, no additional heat) temple ball will have a shatter-like solid outer membrane that prevents oxidation of the hash inside. After a month untouched in a cool dry place, a full melt temple ball will take on a flavor and effect profile that just cannot be had from flowers or shatter or any combination thereof. I find that such hashes develop a complex, exotic spice/perfume like smell with a flavor to match and a noticeable uplifting effect. Cured hashes like these also are much smoother on the throat whichever way you inhale them. I'd love to get before and after test panels on such material to see what has happened at the chemical level with more certainty!
Btw, less is more with full melt! No need for huge dabs like you see on youtube which are wasteful in the extreme and most of whose vapor is lost floating into the air above the nail. I only ever dab .03g of full melt at a time, typically. Higher doses of this sort of cured full melt can have a very psychadelic effect beyond what I've ever experienced from anything else, but IME only ever a very pleasant one. If you do not have a busy work schedule like me (if not for this, I'd indulge larger doses more frequently lol) and especially if you deal with very intrusive pain symptoms, I am sure this will work wonders
I should finish by saying that even 6 star full melt is wonderful in the Evo between SS pads. It is also very efficient, you can completely eliminate trails and keep hitting your bowl over as long a period as you like (removing the ELB in between sessions) until no vapor or flavor emerges anymore
In my view, somebody who has very little supply of a favorite high quality concentrate would do well to use the evo with SS sandwich tek instead of dabbing it, as they'll be more likely to get every single bit of goodness out of each dab!
Last plant yielded 11 ounces I'm only allowed to grow 8 ounces?
Our laws are strict really.
It's getting so cheap now I just buy it.
SHATTER is really cheap so I have it dropped off at my door.
I just read (new hobby). My wife calls me a PASHA (PRINCE).
Getting medicated all day is what I do now = CIVILIZED
The NAILS are pretty cool. (you should try them)
I never mix my CONCENTRATES with FLOWERS.
Just a cultural thing I guess?
I drive the BUD TENDERS crazy with my demand of COLAS.
My seed collection is very diverse and I want to plant them soon.
Just need to make everyone calm?
Dr. said to use an EVO so i am!
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Hey what is that adapter on top of your rig? is it to prevent the bowl from falling into your piece?
Hey is there a consensus of the good 18.8MM pieces for the Evo from Dhgate?
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herbivore21
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You're right bro, I'm probably gonna have to get my hands on those vapexnails at some stage, if for nothing else but so I can compare them to other dab setups I've tried
I never usually mix concentrates with flowers but doing it in the way I mention above has very different flavor and effect to how people usually mix the two together. I find that the key is in making sure there is only barely enough flower in the bowl to wick up the dabs you have smeared on the nug beforehand. Basically, the pieces of flower are being used as wick material just like we used to use cotton in our e-nanos to wick our dabs
By the time the load starts tasting like flowers (IME about the 9th or 10th hit), you know that the oil is spent and the bowl is almost finished. The last hit tastes like vaping flowers I find - the others is much more dab like. 
I do usually prefer to keep my dabs and flowers separate too though
I only combine flower and rosin in this way when I need to get medicated very quickly. It is nice to sit down to a single bowl on the evo that gets me as medicated as I need to be quickly - especially in the evening to beat insomnia.Reading sure is a good hobby to pick up bro, when we're sick especially it is a great way to keep the mind sharp
Sounds like you're making the best of things like always bro, civilized indeed! Glad to hear it!8 zips I could see being a tough limit depending on the medical need. It really depends on how the material is being processed/used by the patient as to how tough it is I suppose. 8oz could become 12-24g of full melt from the best of flowers, or it could be processed easily into more than 40g of great solvent based or even rosin dabs! Obviously by the same token, 8 zips would be a hell of a lot of bowls if someone is only vaping the flowers straight.
For folks who consume huge amounts of oils (1g or greater a day) and such for much more serious conditions than my own, I could see them going through 8 zips worth of processed meds very quickly indeed!