TinyMight / TM 2

JJ785

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Re: draw restriction, it’s important to note that 99% of what people label as “draw restriction” from the TM2 is restriction created by the stem and/or stock cooling unit. The TM2 itself has amazingly open airflow, if you pair it with a more open stem it has the most open airflow of any vape I’ve hit.
could you give an example of such an open stem?
 
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Timps27

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could you give an example of such an open stem?

I have a couple HighArtisan stems that are my favorite, nice big balls help keep everything flowing nicely ;)


This 4 pill stem is nice and open (I have one) and reasonably priced in comparison to others in the shop…

 

JJ785

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I have a couple HighArtisan stems that are my favorite
thanks, they look amazing but I'm not in America.

Does the one bundled with the purple heart model also have a similarly open airflow or not? If not, then maybe best to buy the walnut plus different stem seeing as the internals of the two models are identical afaict?
 
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Timps27

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The missile stem is an improvement over the stock stem IMO, yes. I carry it as my backup after the HS stems. Also, the PH does have material updates in the heater surround and sleeve.

ETA: here is a UK option, spikey stems would be wide open and this one seems reasonable.

 
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3l3tric

TM2 PH and Tiodw Plus 2.0 cured my VAS
thanks, they look great, but I'm not in America.

Does the one bundled with the purple heart model also have a similarly open airflow or not? If not, then maybe best to buy the walnut plus different stem seeing as the internals of the two models are identical afaict?
The PH bundled stem has a 7 hole glass screen built in that restricts the airflow a fair bit. As others have mentioned, it's still more open than the stock with CU (and honestly pretty fine for my use), but it definitely won't be as open as others posted in the thread without a glass screen
 
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dude_de

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could you give an example of such an open stem?
How about this, at $7.99, straight or bent mouthpiece. I have the bent and love it. It uses the basket screens, so very open airflow. I also have their version of the rocket XL, it is significantly more restricted by the glass screen and the balls.

 

666Honeybadger

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Does the one bundled with the purple heart model also have a similarly open airflow or not?

I agree that the included beaded stem is an improvement but as said the glass screen adds some restriction.
Not that much restriction but i am not a fan of glass screens anyway so i use the stock long glass stems (the long 'OG'-stemtubes without glass screen) combined with the glass balls and half of the cooling unit (hollow) as seen in this picture:



I use the one on the right the most (yes it needs cleaning ;)):
it has a rimless screen at the mouthpiece end (to keep the balls from clogging it) and a (hollow) half of the cooling unit at the bowl end (the screen is the bowl's end and the side with the holes the ball's end).
It has a very open draw (even in this reclaimriddled condition it still is pretty open but i have some reclaiming to do coming weekend ☕;)).
The other stem uses two halves of the cooling unit to keep the balls in and to shape the bowl.

Personally i am perfectly happy with these and they were "free" as they use mostly stock parts (i did change the glass mouthpiece because i like the mouthfeel of the Ditanium mp more and it has a wider inner diameter too...)

But again: very open draw. If i breathe thru the device with empty stem there's no restriction whatsoever :tup: (well, there is now but it's really very dirty at the moment)...And the balls really cool very well without robbing flavor!

fwiw: I'd say go for the Purple Heart and add one or two long stock glass tubes and you can mock up something similar.
Pretty sure the cooling unit/short stem are still included?
 
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Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Does the one bundled with the purple heart model also have a similarly open airflow or not? If not, then maybe best to buy the walnut plus different stem seeing as the internals of the two models are identical afaict?

Why do you think you want the PH? Sounds like there's no reason for you not to get the walnut really... I wish they offered it barebones, since I don't really like any of the included stems myself, would be better to save money and get aftermarket stems, simple open WPA and right angle hook
 

Timps27

Feel like I’m winnin’ when I’m losin’ again
I mean, you know the P in PH stand for PURPLE right? Seems like reason enough to pay any upcharge in my mind.

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RustyOldNail

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When I did that the first time, I quickly learned to NOT push on the screen but on the "rim". On the mouth end of the cooling unit, you can push everywhere.

Indeed, that was the idea behind using the “pen-cap”, you can easily push evenly, I use it at home. In a pinch, I’d use the tamp tool.
 
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JJ785

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Why do you think you want the PH?
I didn't. I was just asking about stems.:)


That said, there are small differences (presumably improvements) to the internals of the PH (compared to the walnut), as mentioned by someone else a few posts up.
Also, the PH does have material updates in the heater surround and sleeve.
 
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Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
I didn't. I was just asking about stems.:)

Yeah so that's exactly my point, because you mentioned getting the walnut to save money for stems, I see no reason not to do that :tup:

That said, there are small differences (presumably improvements) to the internals of the PH (compared to the walnut), as mentioned by someone else a few posts up.

I am presuming those differences are pretty negligible in use actually, especially if you've never tried one at all before, the only difference should be zirconia around the heater instead of quartz (which could be undesirable potentially comparatively) and more robust ceramic posts within the stainless steel ribbon coil heater...

I've never had any concerns or problems with durability, across the OG TM, a later TM1, and my early TM2... I have been tempted to upgrade with another backup, to get extra improvements, but they really don't feel necessary at all tbh as any TM is already better than most alternative options available, but the best experience is with aftermarket stem / hook setups imo :2c:
 

3l3tric

TM2 PH and Tiodw Plus 2.0 cured my VAS
I didn't. I was just asking about stems.:)


That said, there are small differences (presumably improvements) to the internals of the PH (compared to the walnut), as mentioned by someone else a few posts up.
I actually emailed TM about this before purchase to confirm the differences, this was their exact email response:


Hi ! The Zirconium liner is an exclussive to the PH model and it warrants an increase in production costs, this is why it is not offered with the walnut. I has no impact on performance and it still breaks upon a hard drop,it is not really immortal or presents any performance difference. Have a nice day !

Best Regards ,TinymightCS !
Joni


I personally still opted for the PH since 1) I knew I'd use the glass bead long stem way more than the Ti included with the walnut, 2) While they claim it has no impact on performance, Zirconium still has different material properties than quartz so in my mind there would always be a little placebo effect of wondering about the difference, and 3) purpleheart wood just looks better than walnut

I believe I've also seen mention that the PH edition increased the thickness of the ceramic rods in the heater, but they didn't confirm this in their response. It also doesn't seem like there are any plans to carry the Zirconium liner down to the walnut model later, either.
 

3l3tric

TM2 PH and Tiodw Plus 2.0 cured my VAS
Umm... IMO the PH looks great, but I absolutely prefer the look of Walnut. :shrug:

Beauty's in the eye of the beholder I guess. :peace:
To each their own! I'm not normally a wood person, but i like the kinda "shimmer" pattern that purpleheart gets when it's well cared for and waxed. But I can definitely see preferring walnut if you prefer that lighter brown aesthetic with the wood grain contrast
 
I personally still opted for the PH since 1) I knew I'd use the glass bead long stem way more than the Ti included with the walnut, 2) While they claim it has no impact on performance, Zirconium still has different material properties than quartz so in my mind there would always be a little placebo effect of wondering about the difference, and 3) purpleheart wood just looks better than walnut
I have the PH version and the Ti stem that comes with the TM2. It gets hotter MUCH quicker than the glass bead dick missile! The Ti stem is only good for one bowl for me before its uncomfortably hot for my lips. I thought maybe changing from a glass sleeve to the stainless-steel sleeve might have caused heat conduction, but that doesn't seem to be the cause. I ran my PH in session mode for 10minutes (setting 6, without pulling on it), although the wood body was uncomfortably hot the Ti stem wasn't.... so, it's not conduction. Afterwards I pulled air through the Ti stem and it heated up quickly like I experienced before.
I tried to increase the time before it overheats by adding thermal mass to the Ti stem. I switched the cooling unit screw to a M2.5x45mm screw. That gave me the most room to add more mass via S.S. nuts/washers. I didn't notice a significant difference; the titanium just doesn't cool fast enough and eventually gets saturated with heat. The washers/nuts thermal mass mostly helps with vapor temperature, without much effect on the surface temperature of the Ti stem.
Finally I tried creating a thermal break by using the glass tip from the missile stem on the Ti stem. It fit perfectly and worked great! The Ti stem still gets hot, but my lips only touch the glass tip which stays cool. This gives me most of the benefit of an unbreakable Ti stem, with a glass tip that won't get hot. Does anyone know where just spare glass tips can be purchased? (BTW, I also tried a mouthpeace mini but it does not fit)
Note: The cooling unit and/or beads are still used to cool the vapor, this is separate from cooling of the mouthpiece.
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El Duderino

The Dude abides.
Lately I've been really enjoying this combo: a small recycler (I use it dry) from a Chinese manufacturer with the TM Bowl from GVB. This setup is quick to assemble, easy to clean, and a nice change from the ball vape. Experimenting with the TM is fun - it’s just an awesome vape that doesn’t get old for me!

 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Does anyone know where just spare glass tips can be purchased? (BTW, I also tried a mouthpeace mini but it does not fit)

Yeah I think most people who use the titanium stem are using it with a mouthpiece of some sort... You might want to look at the titanium mouthpiece for the ditanium vape, it fits TM mouthpieces, with a 14 mm taper, it is longer than other mouthpieces, rounded more comfortable for the lips, and it should have more distance to keep cool longer for you as well... (I have them both but I still have not tried either with anything haha Ti stem from TM needs to be cleaned and it is rough cut so I really don't think I want to use it at all honestly and will probably just sell it eventually with others here... Planned to use the ditanium mouthpiece to just build a stem with quartz pearls however I got other stems that are all one piece already so that just never felt appealing I don't know lol)

The other option is wood mouthpieces, there are a variety of makers for those like Woody vapors and stems in France, good vibes has sold them in the past, there are others like Milliken who make wood mouthpiece stuff too for the TM? Probably more that I am forgetting right now... The Rogue Wax works has them as well, and even makes acrylic mouthpieces too, I have one of those from him for TM and it is pretty nice actually (personally I am not a fan of wood mouth pieces or stems without glass/steel liners)
 

Petetbay

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Does anyone know where just spare glass tips can be purchased?

 
Yeah I think most people who use the titanium stem are using it with a mouthpiece of some sort... You might want to look at the titanium mouthpiece for the ditanium vape, it fits TM mouthpieces, with a 14 mm taper, it is longer than other mouthpieces, rounded more comfortable for the lips, and it should have more distance to keep cool longer for you as well... (I have them both but I still have not tried either with anything haha Ti stem from TM needs to be cleaned and it is rough cut so I really don't think I want to use it at all honestly and will probably just sell it eventually with others here... Planned to use the ditanium mouthpiece to just build a stem with quartz pearls however I got other stems that are all one piece already so that just never felt appealing I don't know lol)

The other option is wood mouthpieces, there are a variety of makers for those like Woody vapors and stems in France, good vibes has sold them in the past, there are others like Milliken who make wood mouthpiece stuff too for the TM? Probably more that I am forgetting right now... The Rogue Wax works has them as well, and even makes acrylic mouthpieces too, I have one of those from him for TM and it is pretty nice actually (personally I am not a fan of wood mouth pieces or stems without glass/steel liners)
thank you for the good options to consider! Most of the time I use the glass stem, the Ti is only for hikes. Acrylic may be the best option... tough, easy to clean and a clean smoke.
 

Pukka

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thank you for the good options to consider! Most of the time I use the glass stem, the Ti is only for hikes. Acrylic may be the best option... tough, easy to clean and a clean smoke.
Although I haven't acquited a TinyMight one yet, I swear by Ed'sTNT wooden Solo stems instead of glass when I'm out and about. Same pluses as your suggested acrylic and it's not a "plastic's" based product.
 

Shit Snacks

Milaana. Lana. LANA. LANAAAA! (TM2/TP80/BAK/FW9)
Although I haven't acquited a TinyMight one yet, I swear by Ed'sTNT wooden Solo stems instead of glass when I'm out and about. Same pluses as your suggested acrylic and it's not a "plastic's" based product.

Just a counterpoint, I really did not like mine when I had it for the solo (especially the metal part for the bowl, and also mine was African blackwood which I now refrain from buying as a result) was tempted to try his mango wood TM stem at one point, but I just really don't like wood as a stem path or mouthpiece, is Ed lining his with glass or steel now though?? Regardless I do love Ed!
 
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