TinyMight / TM 2

[Siebter]

@KVVS – Battery discussions are *such* a rabbit hole. Those tests for example hardly take into account that cell internals can change and be improved (or worsened) over time. It's nice that people are willing to test cell specs, but I doubt those test results can be taken as „true specs“.

30Q in my experience is just crap – but I only had two of them.

 

[ephemera.cannon]

Week 4 of no response to any comms. My last email consisted solely of "TinyMight is broken. I need return labels. Thank you." Is that wording still too complicated??

Guess I need to signup for Instagram (which is, personally, infuriating - I take my digital presence very seriously - haven't been on FB, Twitter or others for year now). I did just start seeing this Finnish lady, so maybe it's all coming together here, ehh.

 

[Djsleepy]

Week 4 of no response to any comms. My last email consisted solely of "TinyMight is broken. I need return labels. Thank you." Is that wording still too complicated??

Guess I need to signup for Instagram (which is, personally, infuriating - I take my digital presence very seriously - haven't been on FB, Twitter or others for year now). I did just start seeing this Finnish lady, so maybe it's all coming together here, ehh.

Have her call don’t we have a number people? Or write you email in Finnish?

 

[RustyOldNail]

@KVVS – Battery discussions are *such* a rabbit hole. Those tests for example hardly take into account that cell internals can change and be improved (or worsened) over time. It's nice that people are willing to test cell specs, but I doubt those test results can be taken as „true specs“.

30Q in my experience is just crap – but I only had two of them.

Mooch’s tests are probably reflect the most accurate ratings we are going to see, and he does them with vapors in mind.

Part of post:

“Here are the results for an abusive life cycle test of three popular 3000mAh batteries. The Sony VTC6 was the best performer in my original testing but does it have a weakness? Is it a cell that can't take abuse? The datasheet specs seem to indicate that it might have a shorter cycle life than the other two.

Bottom Line: The VTC6 started with the highest capacity but the 30Q had the smallest loss of capacity after 50 abusive charge-discharge cycles. The HG2 was the loser in these tests, having the lowest starting and finishing capacity.
The VTC6 starts out as the better performer, by a little, and might be the better choice if you aren't using your batteries hard. The 30Q, while not performing quite as well as the VTC6 at the start, would be the better choice if you habitually abuse your batteries, i.e., discharge and charge them hard.

30Q's won't drop in capacity as far or as fast as the VTC's over the long term, retaining about 5%-6% more capacity than the VTC6. Not a huge difference but it could be noticeable.

While the HG2 is still a great battery it's just not quite as good as the other two. It's still a good choice for regulated modsthough at about 60W, or less, per battery. It didn't lose quite as much capacity as the VTC6 but its lower overall performance left it with the lowest average capacity at the end of the testing.

Which to choose for the way you vape? You'll have to decide yourself but you won't go wrong with any of any of these batteries.

 

[Siebter]

Mooch’s tests are probably reflect the most accurate ratings we are going to see, and he does them with vapors in mind.

Actually he refers to e cigarette usage mostly, and usually you would not use a single 18650 and use it at 60 or 70 watts in an e cig. The TM stresses a cell per hit *much* more than a common e cig box mod would, which is why I prefer to use the highest discharge rate possible instead of borderlining.

 

[RustyOldNail]

Actually he refers to e cigarette usage mostly, and usually you would not use a single 18650 and use it at 60 or 70 watts in an e cig. The TM stresses a cell per hit *much* more than a common e cig box mod would, which is why I prefer to use the highest discharge rate possible instead of borderlining.

Actually he refers to e cigarette usage mostly, and usually you would not use a single 18650 and use it at 60 or 70 watts in an e cig. The TM stresses a cell per hit *much* more than a common e cig box mod would, which is why I prefer to use the highest discharge rate possible instead of borderlining.

Ecig users are vapors too. I use all single battery mods, some for the ModPod and RBT. And a “mech-mod” can put a good strain on a battery. His tests are good enough for me to make an informed battery purchase, one of the best sources we have at the moment.

 

[Siebter]

I don't doubt that his tests are as good as they can get and I wasn't debating that at all (and Mooch doesn't recommend a single 18650 for 70 watts either, just saying).

But we are comparing cells rated for 15A discharge vs. one with 30A discharge (30Q vs. VTC6).

Let's say the manufacturer recommends the VTC6 and leave it at that. If one would like to experiment, that's totally okay too, I don't expect the device to fuck up or explode because of „wrong“ cells.

 

[RustyOldNail]

Sounded like a “debate”.....

 

[Tweakz]

has anyone tried universal wpa from @Sneaky Pete for Tinymight?

Week 4 of no response to any comms. My last email consisted solely of "TinyMight is broken. I need return labels. Thank you." Is that wording still too complicated??

Guess I need to signup for Instagram (which is, personally, infuriating - I take my digital presence very seriously - haven't been on FB, Twitter or others for year now). I did just start seeing this Finnish lady, so maybe it's all coming together here, ehh.

please write me your order number?
I'll try to speed up your process by writing to him on instagram. I did help a few people in the end .

 

[Djsleepy]

@Tweakz make sure you tell Him power button needs to be resoldered, and was pushed all the way in. I went back and. Forth and that was what got thru . Hope it helps!

 

[m0sh]

Just to add one more thing on the battery test by mooch, he charged them with 4A, I'm charging 4 cells together at 0.5A
I'm sure this changes the test results by a lot.

Bottom line - I still with my VTC6, same one that comes with the TM.

 

[Vaporware]

@m0sh Unless he’s started calling himself Dave, the guy you’re talking to seems to be someone new-ish hired to help with support, not the same guy who designed and built them.

Not that important, but to avoid confusion for anyone I thought it was worth mentioning. Glad he’s taking care of you anyway.

 

[m0sh]

@m0sh Unless he’s started calling himself Dave, the guy you’re talking to seems to be someone new-ish hired to help with support, not the same guy who designed and built them.

Not that important, but to avoid confusion for anyone I thought it was worth mentioning. Glad he’s taking care of you anyway.

My bad, and it was David not dave...I was probably stoned

 

[Vaporware]

 

[angular ocelot]

Ghost had problems with all their colors, I got 23 non stealth replacements (3stealth) with same issue with door latch due to my heavy usage and opening and closing of latch so much,IME it’s bound to occur to all units after time. IMO it was design flaw that money couldn’t overcome.
But I got say even though I’m not happy about my TM return after just two weeks, I do miss it very much as my daily driver! It medicates me like nothing else! So, for me I will deal with CS for now and see what happens.

every single vape company should send you their products first to give them a good run through.
i bet mommy and daddy vapes tell their kids if they dont go to sleep, djsleepy is gonna come and vape the living shit out of them.

 

[Djsleepy]

Woo hoo my package made it thru customs this time ! On the way to Finland!

 

[LabPong]

30Q in my experience is just crap – but I only had two of them.

After testing a few in my TM....I agree...they are not enough umph for the TM and they fall of fast. My older LG H2's and new'er blue H2's...are a ton better and I have no issues with them in the TM.

Mooch’s tests are probably reflect the most accurate ratings we are going to see, and he does them with vapors in mind.

Part of post:

“Here are the results for an abusive life cycle test of three popular 3000mAh batteries. The Sony VTC6 was the best performer in my original testing but does it have a weakness? Is it a cell that can't take abuse? The datasheet specs seem to indicate that it might have a shorter cycle life than the other two.

Bottom Line: The VTC6 started with the highest capacity but the 30Q had the smallest loss of capacity after 50 abusive charge-discharge cycles. The HG2 was the loser in these tests, having the lowest starting and finishing capacity.
The VTC6 starts out as the better performer, by a little, and might be the better choice if you aren't using your batteries hard. The 30Q, while not performing quite as well as the VTC6 at the start, would be the better choice if you habitually abuse your batteries, i.e., discharge and charge them hard.

30Q's won't drop in capacity as far or as fast as the VTC's over the long term, retaining about 5%-6% more capacity than the VTC6. Not a huge difference but it could be noticeable.

While the HG2 is still a great battery it's just not quite as good as the other two. It's still a good choice for regulated modsthough at about 60W, or less, per battery. It didn't lose quite as much capacity as the VTC6 but its lower overall performance left it with the lowest average capacity at the end of the testing.

Which to choose for the way you vape? You'll have to decide yourself but you won't go wrong with any of any of these batteries.

How many diff cells have you tried with the Tinymight....and have you tried all those you listed above in it? I have tried all of the ones you mention......30Q was the worst performer and the H2's were better....close enough to the VTC6 where I could not tell which one it was powering the vape.

has anyone tried universal wpa from @Sneaky Pete for Tinymight?

Not sure which one your talking about....there is nothing on his US site I see that would work. You need a stem that has 16mm OD.

 

[m0sh]

Its so annoying watching my store bought VTC6 finish charging like an hour or more before the one that came with the TM...

I think I found the "better" ones on ebay and I'm waiting for them to arrive... perhaps the same case can be applied to the 30Q?

 

[LabPong]

I think I found the "better" ones on ebay and I'm waiting for them to arrive... perhaps the same case can be applied to the 30Q?

That is your problem right there.....buying cells on ebay or amazon.....

 

[PossumMD]

That is your problem right there.....buying cells on ebay or amazon.....

Yeah, massive red flag there.

 

[m0sh]

That is your problem right there.....buying cells on ebay or amazon.....

We'll see...the other ones were store bought...
I could not find the "right" VTC6 elsewhere, no place is shipping here.

I'm not scared tho, I'm always looking for good sellers

As for - Not sure which one your talking about....there is nothing on his US site I see that would work. You need a stem that has 16mm OD. -
I think he talks about the master adapter that fits most mouthpieces

 

[PossumMD]

Even store bought cells have a higher than you'd like rate of being bumkus too. I buy all mine from imr. There's also another website that is reputable but I can't remember it for the life of me.

 

[KVVS]

Dont buy from Ebay or Amazon... Mooch has a verified reseller list but im on mobile.
nkon bought mine from and is trusted.
I used HE4 fine in my TM and now im using VTC5A.
I personally would recommend higher amperage batteries like the Molicel P26A and the VTC5D for example just to be safe amperage wise and have maximum lifespan on the batteries.
I think that the VTC6 are basically on the edge when it comes to amperage draw, and exceed when used on higher temps (temp 8 plus) and impact lifetime.

On another note, i got response from support within 3 days.

 

[Vaporific]

Even store bought cells have a higher than you'd like rate of being bumkus too. I buy all mine from imr. There's also another website that is reputable but I can't remember it for the life of me.

Batteryjunction.com is where I bought my 2 additional VTC6’s in early May when I got my TM. At the time several main sites were sold out. Yeah, eBay as of late hasn’t been too great with my spare oring purchase (I love my stem caps thought bought on eBay). I wouldn’t buy batts on eBay either or on Amazon for that matter. But I’m not an electrical engineer or battery expert like some of you.

Speaking of power I’ve definitely noticed a little less juice from my 3 rotated VTC6s lately after 6 months of use. Nothing major but changing them a bit more frequently as of late. I’ll buy some new ones in a few months - I can wait. What doesn’t wait is the consistent performance of my TM which has recently risen to Daily Driver status for me. I prefer this over other vapes I own (not that I have that many but it’s by far my favorite to use). It’s a joy to use - every single time.

 

[Siebter]

I could not find the "right" VTC6 elsewhere, no place is shipping here.

Where in the world are you? I'm sure we can give you some good sources.

I think that the VTC6 are basically on the edge when it comes to amperage draw, and exceed when used on higher temps (temp 8 plus) and impact lifetime.

That is true, the VTC6s max. discharge rate drops a lot when they get a bit hotter, however, even directly after a session the ones in my TM never got more than luke warm, so I guess it's not an issue here.