Discontinued ThermoVape

Xchadb

@Brownglass
Glass Blower
5 carts for omicron is 50 bucks
each cart lasts at LEAST a gram. mine so far have ran at least 3 grams and still goin! they are hit and miss. depending on your tolerance is how fast you go thru a gram so you can do the math.


a new rev cart is 55 bucks and will last you many months if you use it properly, you can boil it, switch out whatever concentrate you wana vape on the fly. if mine broke next month i would have no problem throwing down 50 bucks for a new high quality ceramic cart! The mouthpiece itself is worth the extra 5 bucks.




one thing i must say, this device does NOT SMELL AT ALL, not talking about the clouds, the device itself, my omicron smells like a dang dispensary when i pull it outa my pocket (the rubber mouthpiece tends to soak up the bho smell) the derlin mouthpiece is has no smell, the device itself has no smell, and my initial coil taste is now gone and my wax tastes amazing!
 
Xchadb,

darkrom

Great Scott!
Whats a thermovape? This is the revolution thread now :p

I can't say I blame you guys for being obsessed with the concentrates. I just can't join in on the fun in this lame state on this coast.
 
darkrom,

Xchadb

@Brownglass
Glass Blower
darkrom said:
Whats a thermovape? This is the revolution thread now :p

I can't say I blame you guys for being obsessed with the concentrates. I just can't join in on the fun in this lame state on this coast.
yeah its sad, sometimes youre like "oh yea....weed!" trust me, as soon as the conv kit is out ill be buying the heater body.......unless....someone has one theyd like to help me with? :brow:
 
Xchadb,

gvape

Well-Known Member
I agree that this thread should be split. It may be the same body, but they are for two different things. This thread is basically all about concentrates now and anyone interested in just the flower adapter is going to have to search through a lot of unwanted material.

On a side note, I have put a dab on top of a bed of flower with the Thermo. It usually takes about 1-2 hits for it all to melt in to the flower and then I begin to shake/stir the bowl. Its really nice because I tend to have consistently huge hits for the life of the batteries.

I am so impatient for my Revolution. I got some Jack Herer wax I am dying to try out in it. Also got a few other flavors that I know are going to taste unreal. I have a feeling I am going to end up buying a second Rev so that I can use one for Full Melt and other for Bubble. I am not going to want to clean my device out after using bubble to go back to full melt. Then again, why would I want to use Bubble over Full Melt? If I have access to the full melt, might as well stick with that, right?
 
gvape,

BossBrew

Metalhead
Xchadb said:
one thing i must say, this device does NOT SMELL AT ALL, not talking about the clouds, the device itself, my omicron smells like a dang dispensary when i pull it outa my pocket (the rubber mouthpiece tends to soak up the bho smell) the derlin mouthpiece is has no smell, the device itself has no smell, and my initial coil taste is now gone and my wax tastes amazing!
This! The rubber mouthpiece gets quite gunked up after extended use and reeks to high heaven. I usually try to keep separate mouthpieces for each of my carts to minimize the buildup.

gvape said:
I am so impatient for my Revolution. I got some Jack Herer wax I am dying to try out in it. Also got a few other flavors that I know are going to taste unreal. I have a feeling I am going to end up buying a second Rev so that I can use one for Full Melt and other for Bubble. I am not going to want to clean my device out after using bubble to go back to full melt. Then again, why would I want to use Bubble over Full Melt? If I have access to the full melt, might as well stick with that, right?
I prefer full melts myself because they are easy to work with and tasty. :D

Loaded up some Blue Dream Wax into the Revolution and wow this stuff is TASTY! Even better than the Pineapple honeycomb I tried yesterday. Going to a UFC party tonight to watch Jim Miller vs Melvin Guillard. Taking my Revolution with me and I look forward to showing it off! This thing is a portable oil rig! Getting dab sized hits in seconds is truly revolutionary.

:peace:
 
BossBrew,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Bluntcrush said:
I now vote for 2 threads now too. It seems that it is pretty oily in here now and nothing else. Sure, you want tips for oil... they are here, and the thread is now being dominated (and thrown off topic) IMO. I would like to SHARE information with other vaporists that think others contributions about their experiences have value as feedback too . (TV what say you? Is this thread supposed to be all about oil? Is other feedback not worth responding to? Was this designed primarily as a concentrate device? Is it just an over glorified MFLB? Was the TV really designed just for oils? Please let us know.) I have asked for tips on using flowers on a couple of occasions, but that is not the topic du jour it seems.

That's my vote! The proof is in this thread. It is not the fault of TV that his company is interested in getting feedback about the device, but I am getting the distinct impression around here that if it ain't about oil, it's worthless! I know the Revolution just came out, but it is not the only feature of the TV that people want to talk about. Just my :2c:

I bid you good day gentleman (and ladies)

We think a second thread is reasonable. We have not started a thread as we feel our role is really to be on the forum to answer questions, and provide support. Once we start threads a few people have hinted that it starts to feel like we are just using the forum to advertise.

We like that this thread was started by a forum member and then he contacted us and invited us to join in on the conversation.

We feel extremely privileged, and grateful to have been embraced by the FC community.

If anyone feels like starting a Revolution thread, and wants us to be a part of that conversation then we will gladly jump right in.

We really appreciate all of you, and we want to do everything we can to continue to be a welcomed member of this forum.

Cheers!

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

Stone__Man

Well-Known Member
first thing TWO seperate threads are needed, and as I thought others are starting to feel the same way.

OF thx for your thoughts. so u think I would not be happy with the TV products why? because I feel a 3 month warranty is way short for such an expensive piece?

lest someone think I just wanna bash the TV, that is not the case, although it may appear that way to some. I think the product as a working unit is rather awesome, in MANY way, quite appealing to me. It's the informed purchase decision side of me seeing a paltry 3 month warranty of the part that can and will fail, I have a very hard time looking past.


please note, I'm totally new to the "vape" world. was very near to purchase the magic flight launch box and besides all the glowing reviews of the MFLB the lifetime warranty was something that stood out to me. If I'm gonna drop a lot of money on a vape product I wanna know its gonna last. and when my "lets find the best deal on products in this vape world" I seen this thread and started reading it, as well as other threads of different products. and different forum's all together and other sources of info.

so then..... I visited the makers web pages of all the vape that interested me
I have taken the liberty to check warranties on other vape products, as this is a BIG purchasing "insurance" to me that I have spent my money in the right place.

with that said , most ALL vape products I looked at the 120 LB price and above and EVERY one had at least one year warranty and often 2 or 3 years.

hope this post helps u all understand my thinking and logic , I like to make the most informed decisions I can , with my tight budget, to me its a LOT of money, not rich to say the least. and THAT why this 3 month warranty bothers me so much, when Thermovape out of the gate takes the lets bash the other guys products , when we are brand new product in market . how many of you can show me vids made by other vape vendors that are bashing the "other guys" ? yeah thats what I though NONE !

does that not raise a flag with anyone but me?

lets assume they did lengthy testing with their "medical" testers. pure logic leads me to conclude that , although they make all their" tougher than nails" vids and "other guy" bashing vid , painting the picture for you all that it is very well made, in America no less, and they have a much cleaner , safer product. but at the end of the day there HAS to be a "founded in testing" reason the warranty of the part that can and will fail has been found to have a very short lifespan. pretty damn smart on the "money making" hand but totally goes against the painted picture of tough , long lasting. if they have such a great heater core, you would think it would come with a MUCH longer warrranty. good god think people , if the makers of thermovape really had a product they think is better and stood behind it, the warranty would be much longer.

and in this very thread was a post from an early adopter about his heater core no working properly.

this thread is going to be MOST interesting in May and through summer when the 3 month warranty ends and having the potential of dropping another 90+ bones to keep using the product.

why am I so much into this little 3 month warranty, the product seems to be providing good results for most buyers and its appealing on that level to me, but the sticking point is this lack of a lengthy warranty in such an expensive product. cause to be honest I would be pissed off in a big way if I bought this and the heater core failed at 32 days.

so in their testing some issues were surely found with the heater core, and their guess is it should last at least 3 months with heavy use. that is the ONLY way I can see it, unless of course Thermovape can provide info to the contrary.

they know the heater core will fail period as the call it a "consumable" there is no denying that by anyone, and they don't wanna have to replace the failed heater cores for FREE when they can make even more money.

this is from their site FAQ's
Built to last a lifetime. The ThermoVape is fully modular. Every part of the device is user replaceable in seconds without tools. If something does wear out, break, or get lost. No problem, youll be back vaping in no time.

Lifetime Warranty. Lifetime Warranty against manufacturing defects. (The heater core and batteries are a consumable and will need to be replaced eventually).

built to last a lifetime except for the parts that can fail u give 3 months warranty, a far cry from lifetime.

that 90+ $ price tag on the heater core replacement. how can the part have such a high price and u ONLY guarantee it to work for 3 months?

look at vapes in the TV price range and show me ONE that has only a real 3 month warranty. pls do, bear in mind I'm looking at where to spend my precious dollars and truth be told I would have already purchased your product if you had a decent warranty.

even if you keep your teeny tiny 3 month warranty make the heater core replacement cost more reasonably priced 25 to 30 bucks. its not like your not making money hand over fist at your 210 dollar asking price for a complete unit. spending such money a buyer should have piece of mind. and if your heater core actually costs 89 dollars to produce and u only have 3 month warranty on it, why does the rest of the unit cost 120$?

bottom line is if you know your product is that good you would stand behind it with a REAL warranty, not 3 months. and a 90+ dollar replacement cost. for all anyone knows u designed the heater core to only last a short time as there is much money to be made selling all those short life heater cores, more than would be made standing behind your product with a lifetime warranty. dollars and :2c:
 
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sessnet

Noob Saibot
LINK TO THE THERMOVAPE REVOLUTION THREAD

Revolution_KIT_complete_SQUARE_1.jpg



LINK TO THE THERMOVAPE REVOLUTION THREAD
 
sessnet,

Xchadb

@Brownglass
Glass Blower
don't worry, we'll all test em for ya, come back in 3 months and we'll let you know if we're still satisfied with our purchase. I agree on the thread separation, as you put this device on it has no relation whatsoever to the herb chamber, completely different techniques
 
Xchadb,

OF

Well-Known Member
jambandphan03 said:
I agree the technology and design is excellent, but those parts could not possibly cost that much to make. Not trying to be rude, just speaking my mind. I am still on board with this device full force because so far it's the first one out there that I know of trying to make a healthy portable vape. Hope to get my revolution adapter today.

I'm not sure what sort of experience you base the statement "those parts could not possibly cost that much to make". I've some considerable experience in light manufacturing in California and have seen the factory and reviewed their processes. FWIW, I think that price is at least fair.

I needed a similar heater built for the Revolution I picked up ten or so days back. I watched the designer of the unit wind and test 3 units, discarding each, before he got one that made specs. Granted the two guys who normally do this work probably get better yields, but it is a slow careful process winding tiny coils, installing (very expensive it turns out) cores and pressing the lot together. All the rest of the parts come from computer controlled machines eating ten foot long rods from automatic feeders. They are basically 'untouched by human hands', meaning near zero labor content. Without a doubt, that heater core is the most expensive bit to make.

By way of reference 'four times prime (direct labor and materials costs)' is a standard structure for large production runs. 6 for short runs and specials. If it costs them $15 in labor and materials (which seems at least possible), $60 might be exactly what the bean counters call for. There's a lot of other costs associated. I once worked for a company with huge volume (1500 units a day) that tried to make it on 2.5 times prime....they didn't make it. A few rejects out of that 1500 drove the costs up too high (dealing with the details takes lots of your more expensive labor and you can't charge anyone for it). The bean counters found each return wiped out the profit from about 200 good units. You can't 'make it up in volume' under those rules.

Perhaps someday more automation will be applied, or another technique developed that will lower the cost, but for now I at least think it's fair......and I've been there. It would, of course, be very nice it 'they' would just make it a year. Or better still, lifetime. I, for one, am not too keen on adding even a dollar or two to the cost of my unit to cover such free replacement parts for others. And again, as it stands, it's way better than Omicron. Both are expendables IMO.

Good luck with your Revolution, I'm sure you'll love it.

Stone__Man said:
OF thx for your thoughts. so u think I would not be happy with the TV products why? because I feel a 3 month warranty is way short for such an expensive piece?

You're welcome.

Just a feeling, perhaps lack of the same perspective I have?

For instance, you all but accuse TV of knowing it's a weak link (from their testing?) and trying to take advantage of folks. Also, you don't seem at all concerned that Omicron carts have no warranty use period. Zero. Nor do you seem to have noticed 'they' have taken a very strong stance that everyone else is inferior and/or stole the design. Stronger than TV IMO. Their right to do so, of course. I don't really support the video TV made because while it does express their deep concerns it does not IMO accurately characterize the Omicron WRT what's in the airpath and all, but I think it was sincere after talking it over with Nick and Noah. They are passionate about making medical grade gear. More power to them.

I've just got the feeling you'd be happier with another unit. If yours gives problems you'll be truly bummed, if it doesn't seems like you'll still harbor suspicions that will interfere with your enjoyment.....which I think is why you want it to start with? Could be wrong, often am.

OF
 
OF,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
quoted for relevance
ThermoVape said:
VaporNinja said:
Thermovape:
how long can I expect the heating core to last with heavy daily use?

The heavy daily use should NOT wear the core out. We use a proprietary USA made wire (we make our coils, ourselves by hand) that is much stronger then nichrome, and there are plug in desktop units that use nichrome for heating, and last for a very long time.

What will wear the core out is abuse more then use. So if you put anything other then flowers into the Thermovape, (i.e. that is why we are making a separate unit made for oils and concentrates) then that could leak down into the core and shorten functional life.

If you use harsh chemicals or solvents to clean the core (we recommend boiling) that could reduce functional life.

If you use other types of batteries other then the 3.2V LiFePO then that may/may not reduce functional life.

If you blow compressed air on to the coil while it is hot, that will reduce life.

If you pour/douse/submerge the core (while it is hot) with water then that will reduce the functional life.

If you just run the device flat out, without actually drawing air through it, over and over, this may reduce functional life (the air flow through the device cools the coils and reduces thermal stress on the core).

Bottom line is that the core is very durable, we made it as tough as we possibly could. It is a solder free system, we use no cheap or weak connections, the wire is as tough as they come for this application, and we assemble each one by hand and test them, each and every one, before they go out the door. This makes for a tough, durable, long lasting vaporizer. I mean we push the limits when we test the device, you may have seen our videos (Your link text), and the device keeps working.

We could have easily made a heating core that we new would fail in 1 month, 3 months, 6 months, etc. What we built is the toughest heating core we possibly could, period. The early ThermoVape's we gave to the beta testers (and we told them to try and break them) are all still running strong.

The ThermoVape should stand up to heavy use, it is made for heavy use, it loves it.

Cheers,

The ThermoVape Team
 
SF Giant,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
Same sorry, my phone wont let me add this quote to my previous post
ThermoVape said:
SF Giant said:
Heavy use is a pretty broad term, to some that could mean 10 tokes a day, to some 50. So Thermovape guy, what would the estimated lifetime of the heater core be if you vaped say 3 bowls a day assuming the 8 or so hits that the website claims?

If you just took 24 hits per day, and never abused the device. I do not think it would need to be replaced for years. The batteries would be the first to go, and the sell for around $10 a pair.
 
SF Giant,

Bluntcrush

Director of Vapor Research Labs™
Thanks guys! I hope that the separate threads end up servicing all of our needs. :peace:

Has anyone noticed that if you hold the TV upright it produces better vapor? At first I was holding the TV like a cigar (horizontally) but I have now discovered that holding it upright while you draw AND hold the switch is what does it!!! :brow: :ninja::ninja:

I was used to having to pull the batt out of my MFLB ( to avoid scorching) so I don't know what made me think so but I imagined that it was to be used like an e-cig (with button) You hold down the button for a few seconds and then release it. The TV works better if you just keep it pushed up, holding it upright, as you draw in. Then I release the battery after my hit. It's working much better now!!! :p
 
Bluntcrush,

OF

Well-Known Member
Bluntcrush said:
The TV works better if you just keep it pushed up, holding it upright, as you draw in. Then I release the battery after my hit. It's working much better now!!! :p

Great news, and not the first time we've heard it. Seems to me more than a few guys have said as much. It's worth noting that the devices probably didn't get any better, it's the users who made the necessary changes.

The real loss is, I think, some good folks are giving up before they get it sorted out. The experiences of a lot for FC guys say 'hang in there, you're gonna love it'.

Xchadb said:
the device itself has no smell, and my initial coil taste is now gone and my wax tastes amazing!

Didn't you decide that it was the wax you were using? Is that no longer the case, that is you think your unit had some sort of 'coil taste' that the rest of us didn't notice?

If it is the case that your past posts about taste from the unit were in error, perhaps it would be a good idea to go back and edit them so other newbies don't get the wrong information?

Otherwise, I agree, the smell is definitely less than Omicron. For a while I kept getting odd 'gasoline' smells from time to time until I figured it out. FWIW, my TV smells a little, and the Revolution more so. The latter definitely smells if you get oil on the outside. The smell seems to come through the mouthpiece. The little rubber caps from e-cig carts do a great job of capping it off and keeping the smell trapped inside.

OF

OF
 
OF,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Bluntcrush said:
Has anyone noticed that if you hold the TV upright it produces better vapor? At first I was holding the TV like a cigar (horizontally) but I have now discovered that holding it upright while you draw AND hold the switch is what does it!!! :brow: :ninja::ninja:

The only image that comes to mind here is so awkward and foolish-looking that I surely must be misunderstanding what you mean. Detailed explanation or better yet illustration, please.
 
pakalolo,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Pak,
What he's saying is that the unit seems to hit better when kept perpindicular to the ground. This makes sense for a coupole of reasons. Mainly, the herb is kept evenly spread over the "floor" of the unit when "standing up" or being held perpindicular to the ground. If you were to hit it while "dangling" it at any angle other than perpindicular (not to mention holding it horizontal) the hits are not quite as good.

:2c:
 
Stu,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Xchadb said:
5 carts for omicron is 50 bucks
each cart lasts at LEAST a gram. mine so far have ran at least 3 grams and still goin! they are hit and miss. depending on your tolerance is how fast you go thru a gram so you can do the math.


a new rev cart is 55 bucks and will last you many months if you use it properly, you can boil it, switch out whatever concentrate you wana vape on the fly. if mine broke next month i would have no problem throwing down 50 bucks for a new high quality ceramic cart! The mouthpiece itself is worth the extra 5 bucks.




one thing i must say, this device does NOT SMELL AT ALL, not talking about the clouds, the device itself, my omicron smells like a dang dispensary when i pull it outa my pocket (the rubber mouthpiece tends to soak up the bho smell) the derlin mouthpiece is has no smell, the device itself has no smell, and my initial coil taste is now gone and my wax tastes amazing!

If you broke yours a month from now, it would be covered by our Warranty! :D

You'de be back vaping in no time.

CHeers,

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Bluntcrush said:
Thanks guys! I hope that the separate threads end up servicing all of our needs. :peace:

Has anyone noticed that if you hold the TV upright it produces better vapor? At first I was holding the TV like a cigar (horizontally) but I have now discovered that holding it upright while you draw AND hold the switch is what does it!!! :brow: :ninja::ninja:

I was used to having to pull the batt out of my MFLB ( to avoid scorching) so I don't know what made me think so but I imagined that it was to be used like an e-cig (with button) You hold down the button for a few seconds and then release it. The TV works better if you just keep it pushed up, holding it upright, as you draw in. Then I release the battery after my hit. It's working much better now!!! :p

Yes, the ThermoVape and the Revolution (and the ThermoVape or Revolution with any other atomizer, cartomizer etc attached, MUST be held in the ON position when inhaling. You can let off at the end of your inhale or pulse the switch int the ON/OFF(released) position if you are getting more advanced with the ThermoVape or Revolution.

We have a detailed User guide available for download from our website under the FAQ section which can be accessed from our homepage top navigation bar.

Cheers! Glad you got it working well for you.

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

PB88123

Vaporist
I've noticed there are 2 new accessories added to the web site.

A new mouth piece for $8.97

Made out of PTFE high temperature plastic (this is Tradmarked as Teflon).

This material is a softer plastic then our standard Delrin mouthpiece, it is our best and recommended option if you are sensitive to hard plastics or metal.

This is the 'softest' mouthpiece we make.

Additionally this mouthpiece made out of virgin grade FDA approved polytetrafluoroethylene (PTFE) which is extremely chemical resistant. It withstands a tremendous amount of heat (up to 500 degrees) and will continue to maintain its integrity for a proper fit and function even with constant exposure to high temperature.

http://thermovape.com/collections/t...igh-temperature-plastic-white-standard-length

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You can also buy the same battery case that came with the TV kit for $1.49 each.
 
PB88123,

vapor 4 life

Well-Known Member
Can't get the hang of this vape. i tried little smaller than bb grind and I still get combustion taste from dust hitting heater. I stir between every hit and still don't get many clouds. I would not mind lack of visible vapor but the burnt herb dust taste is killing me. Please those who are getting flavorfull hit after hit let me know how. Tips tricks please.
My method
bb size grind
45 degree holding position
5-7 second warmup
slow steady draw then faster
when I feal the heat I toggle switch on and off
20 ish second hit
flip and stir between every hit
 
vapor 4 life,

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
What is your load size? I found scortching to be an issue with some larger loads (I even tossed a couple of bowls because the scortched weed tasted so bad). I've since been loading smaller amounts with no problems. Someone compared this to a VG a while ago and I tend to agree. They both require similar stirring as the convection is concentrated into specific areas of the bowl. So a loose load and some stirring is probably your best bet. I have been just dumping the herb into my palm and then putting it right back into the bowl and it seems to work well.
:2c:
 
Stu,

Peloton

Vapes Hard
vapor 4 life said:
Tips tricks please.
when I feal the heat I toggle switch on and off

That is most likely your issue right there. Like others have said, technique is EVERYTHING with this vape. You've gotta draw that hot air through your herb like you mean it, this isn't like a MFLB that cools down to sub-vape temps as you hit it harder. Listen for the hissss as you inhale - keep that battery switch on, too, until you're done. And make sure to blow the mouthpiece holes out occasionally between hits as you feel airflow getting restricted.

I'm just getting better and better sessions out of this awesome machine. If you're not satisfied at first - try not to be discouraged! Just like every other vape, it has a learning curve. It took me a couple days to get consistent hits, and I am just now pinning down getting my ABV a consistent milk chocolate brown. Couldn't be happier with it.
 
Peloton,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
vapor 4 life said:
Can't get the hang of this vape. i tried little smaller than bb grind and I still get combustion taste from dust hitting heater. I stir between every hit and still don't get many clouds. I would not mind lack of visible vapor but the burnt herb dust taste is killing me. Please those who are getting flavorfull hit after hit let me know how. Tips tricks please.
My method
bb size grind
45 degree holding position
5-7 second warmup
slow steady draw then faster
when I feal the heat I toggle switch on and off
20 ish second hit
flip and stir between every hit
Dunno about combustion tastes as it hasnt been a problem for me but my usual technique is as follows
I grind much finer than a bb
I load the bowl about 80% full and stir or partially unscrew and shake after every hit or 2
5 to 10 second heatup depending on herb stir
My first bit of the draw i take a few fairly aggressive puffs like i was lighting a cigar
When i start to see a hint of visable vapor on these puffs i go to a steady draw slowly increasing speed as i go (the switch is held on this whole time) and when im running out of breath of the hit is getting too big i let off the switch for the last few seconds of the hit
Blow cloud, rinse and repeat
 
SF Giant,

PB88123

Vaporist
SF Giant said:
Dunno about combustion tastes as it hasnt been a problem for me but my usual technique is as follows
I grind much finer than a bb
I load the bowl about 80% full and stir or partially unscrew and shake after every hit or 2
5 to 10 second heatup depending on herb stir
My first bit of the draw i take a few fairly aggressive puffs like i was lighting a cigar
When i start to see a hint of visable vapor on these puffs i go to a steady draw slowly increasing speed as i go (the switch is held on this whole time) and when im running out of breath of the hit is getting too big i let off the switch for the last few seconds of the hit
Blow cloud, rinse and repeat

This man knows what to do. Usually I am coughing as I'm still trying to hold the vapor in.

@Peloton I like the idea of blowing into the mouth piece to clear the holes in the top cap. Make sure the top cap is off as I would not blow into the TV.

Once I can plug this in I'll need to get a stand that can hold the TV while plugged in so I can just grab it, hit it, and hang it back up for next time.
 
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