Discontinued ThermoVape Revolution for concentrates

mestizo

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I have emailed Billy and he has replied, but the only way to place an order is over the phone, I have tried several times to get a hold of him without success, has anyone experienced the same?
 
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VolcAnTV

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- baltik, nice choice I have two Lr Revos also. These are made to heat up very hot and I tested w ego-t upgrade batt and the heat wasn't there. Your best bet I think is asking If he's got any ultra, ultra max, T1, or PA bodies. Then pick up the recomended battery and charger. I'm using the ultra fire cheapie supplied by TET w the Aw 17670 protected. Ego runs my AVA LR. I want to buy all sorts of shit right now. Maybe we ought to tell this gold miner about the thread. I think I want a non stick tool if he's got em. Can't make my mind up if I want to buy a Ava w/Res conversion cause I was going have my Ava rebuilt to dart specs and get a dart top for it and not buy any e liquid when I'm out. Almost out of Crystals I got 2 bottles of for my sis and have nearly a full bottle of halo Malibu flavor 18mg. It wasn't right for her yet so I took to it. I'm not that into it now but I'm sure there's liquids I'd like even more but not sure I need it. It's hard to pass up the good deal. Word is he's running a holiday discount so I think I'll try and get the dart LV and tool. The extra metal you get w the Ava w/Res conversion may be worth it if like me you want to tap it for cera cart eventually maybe. Was the reservoir conversion available w/out the AVa HR?
 
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- baltik, nice choice I have two Lr Revos also. These are made to heat up very hot and I tested w ego-t upgrade batt and the heat wasn't there. Your best bet I think is asking If he's got any ultra, ultra max, T1, or PA bodies. Then pick up the recomended battery and charger. I'm using the ultra fire cheapie supplied by TET w the Aw 17670 protected. Ego runs my AVA LR. I want to buy all sorts of shit right now. Maybe we ought to tell this gold miner about the thread. I think I want a non stick tool if he's got em. Can't make my mind up if I want to buy a Ava w/Res conversion cause I was going have my Ava rebuilt to dart specs and get a dart top for it and not buy any e liquid when I'm out. Almost out of Crystals I got 2 bottles of for my sis and have nearly a full bottle of halo Malibu flavor 18mg. It wasn't right for her yet so I took to it. I'm not that into it now but I'm sure there's liquids I'd like even more but not sure I need it. It's hard to pass up the good deal. Word is he's running a holiday discount so I think I'll try and get the dart LV and tool. The extra metal you get w the Ava w/Res conversion may be worth it if like me you want to tap it for cera cart eventually maybe. Was the reservoir conversion available w/out the AVa HR?
Oooh I love Malibu! They also have one of my top 5 juices, Sub Zero :nod: working through some 24mg Snake Oil right now, it's fantastic.
 
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Busta

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Are the top loaders preferable to the windows? Now I am second guessing
I like the top loader since I don't ha be to worry about the window gunking up and being difficult to open. I don't have a windowed revolution, but I've read of users having this issue.
 
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OF

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Are the top loaders preferable to the windows? Now I am second guessing

Most of us probably top load the window version anyway using oils and waxes. It's just easier to pull the top off than rotate the window open. It stays cleaner as well (not a big deal anyway, IMO, you need to deal with leaks with any oil vape, best to have a plan).

Inside they are identical. Either will give excellent service, it's a question of convenience I think?

Some guys like the pointed loader, some of us don't find it as useful I think. If you're going to be doing Bubble and other lower grade concentrates (up to Full Melts) the window is a big advantage in stirring the load with a toothpick or something as well as cleaning the residue out for the next load.

The DART version is slightly shorter as well IIRC.

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baltik

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Well unfortunately day one was not a success, I noticed right away there was a gap on one side between the ceramic and metal, almost seemed like the concentrate could seep past and bypass the ceramic, I got a decent session in but my cart was leaking at the window, I could tell the difference in the airflow by sealing off the window with my finger. When I started my second sess - the taste changed for the worse half way through, after the oil was gone there was a crack in the ceramic... Waiting in TV to get back to me and hoping they can maybe hook me up with a top loader, seems like a much better system with more precise placement and no air leaks...
 
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OF

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A small gap in the top ceramic is normal. Allows oil to flow down to the heater core and the wafer underneath it.

The gap is also what lets air flow past the plate. Without it oil seals the the plate, the draw gets harder and your head implodes. Early units had two small gaps (opposite sides) but they could foul out easily so they shifted to one larger one.

Taste change is often an indication that you've run out of ready concentrate to hold temperatures down and they have rocketed up and you're now burning rather than making vapor. You need a fair bit, say .10 grams or so as a guess, to 'prime' the ceramic. You might get a hit or two from it with a new cart, might not. Then add another bit (.050 grams is a good target to start). Even when flooded, they recover well. Don't be shy about exploring fill levels and heat. Get it right and it'll do what Cera does for a hit or two. Even with casual use you can get half a dozen or so very impressive hits between top ups (of about 1/20 gram each).

I wouldn't panic about window air leaks right off either. Once it gets some oil deposit on the outside of the inner tube it'll seal just fine with the window 180 degrees out. Most of us probably pull the inner sleeve out and top load rather than use the window. You do have to wipe the outside from time to time if oil gets there, but not really a big deal.

A cracked plate is not fatal, as long as the pieces don't fall out (and even if they do, it'll run without the top plate at all). I'm not sure I'd rush off and have it replaced, for sure the gap issue is not a fault but a carefully controlled feature.

Good luck with it, it has a well earned reputation. I suggest giving it a chance?

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StickyShisha2

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mine had a cracked top plate for a long time. each time i cleaned it i would worry the pieces would fall out as the edges of the split seamed to round off a bit.

if you want to cover the side hole, the silicone mouthpiece from Omicron cartridges works well. You can cut it to use as a sleeve and then use a regular mouthpiece.
 

mestizo

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Just received my Revolution Dart, and AVA atomize from Vapor Envy.
Kudos to them, they made a mistake in the price of the Dart, and didn't correct it in my credit card charge, I would have paid the correct price but they decided not to charge me, that's more than I could have expected from them. Outstanding customer service.
Thank you Vapor Envy.
 

Busta

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I've received my RES and LR Dart today Vapor Envy. Came quick especially for crossing the boarder and coming to the West side from the East.
I'm vaping with the RES cart now and the juice is tasting so much better than the cheap clearo I was using, not to mention that it looks way better :)
 

kushcabbage

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anyone know where I could find a thread adapter to use the up tech kiss cart on my thermovape 510 battery
 
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petey1

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How is the LV 3.7v version of this on a variable voltage Ego Twist? I cannot seem to find much info on this.
 
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OF

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How is the LV 3.7v version of this on a variable voltage Ego Twist? I cannot seem to find much info on this.

It's been discussed a fair bit. It works fine, many of us do it, I think Pipes is to blame for starting it?

The Twist power limits about 4.3 Volts IIRC.

If you put "twist" in the search function at the top you'll see this discussed many times, often in some detail.

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mestizo

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A friend of mine borrowed my Revolution Dart over the weekend and liked it so much that he wants one now, I told him there are no longer available, except for the ones sold by Vapor Envy, but those don't come with batteries.
What's the best way to put a unit together if he gets the dart from Vapor Envy? I'm thinking it is better if he chooses the LV.
 
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A friend of mine borrowed my Revolution Dart over the weekend and liked it so much that he wants one now, I told him there are no longer available, except for the ones sold by Vapor Envy, but those don't come with batteries.
What's the best way to put a unit together if he gets the dart from Vapor Envy? I'm thinking it is better if he chooses the LV.

From what I've been told, you can use the LV Revolution with almost any 3.7v battery (incl Ego Twist VV). I don't think you will find many mods that will run the regular voltage dart because it needs to run at 6v. I think I understood this correctly.
 
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A friend of mine borrowed my Revolution Dart over the weekend and liked it so much that he wants one now, I told him there are no longer available, except for the ones sold by Vapor Envy, but those don't come with batteries.
What's the best way to put a unit together if he gets the dart from Vapor Envy? I'm thinking it is better if he chooses the LV.

By all means go with LV. LV Darts are about 1.5 Ohms and 510 thread. Because the power demand is so low, most of the larger e-cig batteries (like EgoT or EgoC) will work fine. In fact the smaller Ego Twist (VV) is quite popular with some.....IIRC this is Pipe's fault? The rest of us were blissfully unaware of this great idea until he starting shooting his Canadian mouth off......

It's easy to get even with him, just do what the rest of us do, don't send him any Christmas Cards! He most likely won't go away, but.......

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Mynameismud

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If you have a persei thats another option with an adapter. I have a SS tube which makes it a little wider but smaller than my ultra was but with the same capacity battery. Plus you could do SV carts or LV with the regular setup.

I believe vaporenvy had some revolution bodies available too so maybe a package would be a good option that would work with LV and SV.

Last option would be to check out @ogcook classified ad on page 2-3. Not sure what he has left but i think he still had an ultralite last time i talked to him
 

ogcook

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Thank's to all three of you, this sure will make his search easy.
I have a few mismatched pieces. But I would say grab him an LV is possible, just needs ~3v and is a standard 510 threading. Will fit right onto an E-Cig battery. I was running one off my Dr Dabber battery. A Standard Volt will require something that can do 6v.
 

NimbusVapor

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Hi guys,

Thank you for all the info in this wonderful thread.

I have one question for people running LV revo carts on ego batteries.

I am running the revo cart on my ego ctwist VV and it works great but the button gets super hot and I dont liek having to deal with the 10 second cutoff time.

I have been looking into bigger better VV batteries and mods and it seems liek the joyetech evic has more than enough features to do what I need it to do.

Has anyone run the revo cart on a battery like the joyetech evic? Is it capable of running without a cutoff time or getting hot?

I would love to hear from someone that has this setup or something similiar...

Thank you!
 
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