Discontinued Thermovape Cera

Dreamerr

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I knew they had put a link to the pdf file earlier in this thread. OG cook you are johnny on the spot:clap:

I agree OF instructions with all my vapes leave a lot to be desired.
 

Musicslv

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Should I lube the washers on the cart at all? The mouthpiece seems to be hard to remove/replace... OK forget that, warmed up, it all slides well. I love this thing. Let me count the ways...
 

ogcook

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Should I lube the washers on the cart at all? The mouthpiece seems to be hard to remove/replace... OK forget that, warmed up, it all slides well. I love this thing. Let me count the ways...
I use a little PG/Propylene Glycol to lube up my washers on all my stuff when needed. If it's good enough to vape, it's good enough to be used in a vape for maintenance.
 
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I knew they had put a link to the pdf file earlier in this thread. OG cook you are johnny on the spot:clap:

Wow, that's a little sketchy isn't it? Lots of pictures, though......

I went and dug up the draft of the Cera Oil stuff I wrote for 'em FWIW:


Cera “Oil Cart” Usage

The Cera Oil Cart is not only expanded in size from the Revolution/DART system but the geometry between the heater and the ceramic reservoir has been optimized. Users familiar with Revolution/DART will find a lot in common, but also some differences in performance and usage.

If you look down into the cart you'll see the ceramic top plate that makes up the floor of the upper chamber. There should be gaps on the side to let the vapor from below get past it. Note it's porous, looking something like a dry sponge. In use the concentrate will be absorbed into that material like water into a dish sponge. The heater will evaporate it from there. Below the plate are four rings of the same material in a stack, they too absorb the concentrate when it's loaded. Up the center runs the heater, basically all the reservoir material is 'at the ideal distance' from the heater (unlike before) so it all comes up to temperature at once. This combined with the increase in reservoir volume makes for heavy hits on demand and lots of them between reloads. Also included in the new design is space behind the rings so overfilled oil (within reason) has a place to be held until it can be used, rather than leaking out the bottom.

Former Revolution/DART users will recognize (and appreciate) these changes.

Now to loading. If your concentrate is 'thin' and flows very freely you probably don't need to preheat, but preheating helps in all cases. Just run the core for 15 seconds or so until the body starts to get warm (or even hot) to the touch. Then add half a gram (no more is recommended until you get experience with that concentrate). In general, this is about the volume of the upper cavity. If it's wax, pack it in. Otherwise scoop some in and let it melt down. You may want to hit the heat for a dozen seconds or so to speed things along. Some of the more solid waxes, glasses, shatters and the like can take fiddling to get them melted in without having vapor build up spit them out again.

Once the cavity clears and the concentrate is in the lower chamber fit the mouthpiece of your choice (drip tip, Pure or True Flow or Cera cap and mouthpiece) and turn the heat on. Some concentrates make noise heating up, some don't, but in 20 or so seconds (from warm) you should be getting lots of vapor starting to happen. This will build over the next minute or two as the full cartridge comes up to temperature. Hit it as you wish. Most users will want to power down between hits, others will find it works better for them to leave power on for a few hits then shut it down (typically for a longer time) before resuming. You should experiment. Unlike convection systems, vapor is being produced whether you draw or not. If you don't draw it out, it condenses again inside but over time this will degrade the taste ('cook') your oil and is to be avoided. Don't let it idle for long periods with power on.

When your session is over for the time being, just set it down and let it cool. There should be no need to keep it upright (or any other position) until cool. The design is very resistant to leaks and 'plugging' (provided it's not overfilled). When the action slows down, as always consider your battery charge first. Assuming it's low concentrate and adding more can leave you overfilled with a still dying battery....hardly progress. Battery life will be quite long (over half an hour of 'on time' typically) so it's easy to forget about it....but don't. If you overfill you're going to waste concentrate and time correcting it. So try your charged battery before you reach for more concentrate.


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Musicslv

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I've had a volcano for quite awhile and this past year I've been using a pax, well I just recieved my cera and I love it, but what I wasn't ready for was the lingering taste of the oil. I guess I've just gotten used to the taste of a joint or bag of vapor, oil is different though... More... lingering?
 
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v1ru5

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Hi all,

Yesterday, I received my cera and it run very well last night and this afternoon.
Very nice and beautiful that Cera! (the first Cera in France!)

But since tonight, the LL cart do not work (I do not see even red light in the LL cart, no hot).
I tried with my e-liquid cart and no problem, it work very well.
The LL cart have a problem.
I tried to clean it, change the batteries and it did not change anything.
The body was very hot when I use the LL cart, would there be a connection?

After the long preorder wait, I was very happy yesterday but my happiness falls today.

But I must say that even the first time, after some inhale, it had run very well and produces a good vapor cloud with the LL cart (I coughed hard^^).
The "T1/Cera All Glass 14G Adapter" is very great ;)

Thanks for your reply.


a French orphan's LL cart
 
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Musicslv

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Wow, that's a little sketchy isn't it? Lots of pictures, though......

I went and dug up the draft of the Cera Oil stuff I wrote for 'em FWIW:


Cera “Oil Cart” Usage

The Cera Oil Cart is not only expanded in size from the Revolution/DART system but the geometry between the heater and the ceramic reservoir has been optimized. Users familiar with Revolution/DART will find a lot in common, but also some differences in performance and usage.

If you look down into the cart you'll see the ceramic top plate that makes up the floor of the upper chamber. There should be gaps on the side to let the vapor from below get past it. Note it's porous, looking something like a dry sponge. In use the concentrate will be absorbed into that material like water into a dish sponge. The heater will evaporate it from there. Below the plate are four rings of the same material in a stack, they too absorb the concentrate when it's loaded. Up the center runs the heater, basically all the reservoir material is 'at the ideal distance' from the heater (unlike before) so it all comes up to temperature at once. This combined with the increase in reservoir volume makes for heavy hits on demand and lots of them between reloads. Also included in the new design is space behind the rings so overfilled oil (within reason) has a place to be held until it can be used, rather than leaking out the bottom.

Former Revolution/DART users will recognize (and appreciate) these changes.

Now to loading. If your concentrate is 'thin' and flows very freely you probably don't need to preheat, but preheating helps in all cases. Just run the core for 15 seconds or so until the body starts to get warm (or even hot) to the touch. Then add half a gram (no more is recommended until you get experience with that concentrate). In general, this is about the volume of the upper cavity. If it's wax, pack it in. Otherwise scoop some in and let it melt down. You may want to hit the heat for a dozen seconds or so to speed things along. Some of the more solid waxes, glasses, shatters and the like can take fiddling to get them melted in without having vapor build up spit them out again.

Once the cavity clears and the concentrate is in the lower chamber fit the mouthpiece of your choice (drip tip, Pure or True Flow or Cera cap and mouthpiece) and turn the heat on. Some concentrates make noise heating up, some don't, but in 20 or so seconds (from warm) you should be getting lots of vapor starting to happen. This will build over the next minute or two as the full cartridge comes up to temperature. Hit it as you wish. Most users will want to power down between hits, others will find it works better for them to leave power on for a few hits then shut it down (typically for a longer time) before resuming. You should experiment. Unlike convection systems, vapor is being produced whether you draw or not. If you don't draw it out, it condenses again inside but over time this will degrade the taste ('cook') your oil and is to be avoided. Don't let it idle for long periods with power on.

When your session is over for the time being, just set it down and let it cool. There should be no need to keep it upright (or any other position) until cool. The design is very resistant to leaks and 'plugging' (provided it's not overfilled). When the action slows down, as always consider your battery charge first. Assuming it's low concentrate and adding more can leave you overfilled with a still dying battery....hardly progress. Battery life will be quite long (over half an hour of 'on time' typically) so it's easy to forget about it....but don't. If you overfill you're going to waste concentrate and time correcting it. So try your charged battery before you reach for more concentrate.


OF
. Thanks for taking the time to explain. I'm one of those who like to get a mental picture of how the things I use work. I mean, if it's magic, ok. Just let me know. But if it's mechanical, let me get an idea of how it's put together. Not sure why they didn't include somthing like this in the package... Really though, my cera is flawless. I even like the residual heat.
 
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Okay so I finally got my Cera. Man it feels good to just finally say that. This will be an honest quick review with some rundowns on what I may have encountered with this device.

This vaporizer works as intended assuming you are aware of how most portable vaporizers work. I had a hard time at first trying this but eventually i got the technique down during the first run. I ordered the LL cart and the EO cart so I'll just begin with the herbs. This cart seemed a little small at first but due to my promise that I made to myself this will help me cut down quite a bit. You have to also understand that if this is your very first vaporizer, you will have to take some time getting used to what you're consuming in order to feel the effects which is rather a lot different than smoking herbs which requires combustion.

I packed the cart fairly tight just like one of the members here have said to do before. I had bought 3 2250 mah unprotected panasonic batteries before hand (discontinued but was about $9 bucks each for one.) I also used the 2900 battery that came with the Cera package as well and noticed it's a ORBTRONIC 2900 protected button top battery. Now with the first sesh, it was hard to get any vapor at first but then gave a little bit more of a pull like hitting a bong gave me some real nice dense cloud instantaneously. Also, the mouthpiece does get really hot after 2-3 hits. It gets really hot above the 3 pin-sized holes extending to the mouthpiece so you've got to take breaks in between if you're sharing to let the ceramic cool down. Which is fine with me but for some people who are looking to get ripped from this product you're looking at a HOT product that needs users to take their time to consume their herbs. I can tell you that I got high after 3-6 inhales. The air resistance is close to none so pull as hard as you want but if it's not preheated then you're gonna end up firing up the battery again once you realized you didn't get anything from cold start. TBH, this is a great vaporizer but it has it's disadvantages as well as most portable vaporizers nowadays still do (one example is the PAX vaporizer's mouthpiece unable to reposition itself inside the casing without trying more than once to do so.)

ABV is not consistent and I have problems producing that evenly browned ABV but I guess it's due to how well you can master the technique of inhalation through the Cera. Probably I'm inhaling at a quick speed so whatever is closer to the core will be vaped first before the warm air can start to produce vapors from the top of the bowl. This is not a bad thing as well because some people who are experienced with vapes would know that a little stirring would help produce evenly tasty vapors. If you do stir, try to buy some mini stainless steel screens that will fit the inlet holes in the bowl. If you don't have time or can't find any, then you're gonna want to pour it out and mix a bit then put it back in. That's just me though, I can't say that it will taste as great if you don't stir it a bit but for sure the airflow of the device goes upwards so I'd chose to stir just so it tastes good through the whole bowl and that'll save me money re-upping again next time.

Surely the positive thing is that the Cera works with a few perks you gotta get used to. I don't like having to deal with not being able to just push the safety pin right in the hole. It just won't go through without the need of unscrewing the bottom switch off first so that the battery can come out and allow the passage for the pin itself. You'll most likely have a long wait time for the Cera to cool down but I read somewhere around here that some member got a electronic insulator case which cools the inside and seems like it could fit the Cera's body well. I don't recommend that case for EO cart users though. The oil inside the cartridge will be risked spilling through the mouthpiece and that's just a hassle to clean something that sticky all the time. That being said, it is essential to have your Cera in a vertical position if being brought with in times of travel (don't put the cera lying horizontally in the car either after a quick session either.) I think the cool thing about this vaporizer is the ability to clean it instead of buying cartridges, tanks, or stuff like that because it clearly doesn't save you the money in the end. With the Cera you have that privilege to get it cleaned easily by using ISO to wipe down the LL cart or boil/torch the EO cart to just clear out all the excess oils you had going in there.

Now the EO cart is a virtue. I say that because you will be surprised at how well this stuff really works. Besides the fact that it still gets hot rather quickly in the LL cart, you don't really get that much heat from the EO cart because the oils are vaporized much quicker than herb. You still gotta preheat the cart so I suggest watching it at first so that you can see the whole action take place. You wanna soak the wafer at the bottom but also have the sides sticky with some if you could. I have some Blue Jack wax and it's so tasty but got me coughing in a matter of seconds. I don't think you should hit it slow either. For some reason, it's better to just inhale as fast as you would like but not as slow because you wouldn't intake most of the vapor thats producing from the white wafer down under the bowl. Man and I can tell you one thing before the Blue Jack was put in, I tried some budder in here and it seems to me that you can now truly figure out if someone purged their oils or waxes right or not. I love this about it because now you have a quality product that can spot the difference between varieties of waxes and other essential oils. The mouthpiece from the inside will get sticky a bit but again nothing ISO does the trick once you decide to wipe it off. If you ever stop by a Walmart or Target go get some 91% bottles if you could.

I like the fact that this product works well at first hand. Even with some of it's disadvantages, it is definitely a sacrifice so I would say that this product is truly for those who want a real vaping experience without the hassle of spending more money on rebuilding carts or maintenance. I wish that T.E.T would somewhere along the line create an instructions booklet so that their customers would have an easier understanding of properly using the device. I would still like to point out that you don't want to get batteries that are not safely recommended because this product does get HOT rather quickly and can burn or hurt others if not handled properly. Another thing that boggles my mind is that T.E.T said batteries were short (at the time I assumed they have some nice special batteries coming through) but turns out to be from orbtronics and this is what I found.

http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-...li-ion-battery-button-top-panasonic-orbtronic

I mean you could get two for the price you paid at T.E.T. just saying!

I would like to also mention that 2250 batteries will definitely be a nice addition to LL cart users because they have a faster warm-up time than that of the 2900 batteries that T.E.T. provides. That is if you're willing to sacrifice battery life over warm-up time. EO cart users will surely benefit from both so it doesn't matter. If there is any advice I'd give out before I end my review is to stay put because you're waiting for a nice treat just as I did! I know that there will be some modifications to the safety pin which has already been done but I want to see a flushed up/down switch than can also act as a thermal sleeve as well. I do think a latching switch is vital to have with any of the carts because nobody wants to stick their fingers through the bottom. It's just not comfortable to do so everytime but I guess you'll forget once you're stoned but that also brings up my awareness about the battery still having connections to the cart even if not used the mouthpiece and body above the 3 pinholes will get hot on its own because of direct contact with the cart. The safety pins has its advantages though. It can help save battery time so you wouldn't have to charge too often. But definitely not appealing to unscrew the bottom every time you want to stick the pin back in. Now I'm off to start another session and let's see how we do on my second try. Be back later!
 

Musicslv

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Okay so I finally got my Cera. Man it feels good to just finally say that. This will be an honest quick review with some rundowns on what I may have encountered with this device.

This vaporizer works as intended assuming you are aware of how most portable vaporizers work. I had a hard time at first trying this but eventually i got the technique down during the first run. I ordered the LL cart and the EO cart so I'll just begin with the herbs. This cart seemed a little small at first but due to my promise that I made to myself this will help me cut down quite a bit. You have to also understand that if this is your very first vaporizer, you will have to take some time getting used to what you're consuming in order to feel the effects which is rather a lot different than smoking herbs which requires combustion.

I packed the cart fairly tight just like one of the members here have said to do before. I had bought 3 2250 mah unprotected panasonic batteries before hand (discontinued but was about $9 bucks each for one.) I also used the 2900 battery that came with the Cera package as well and noticed it's a ORBTRONIC 2900 protected button top battery. Now with the first sesh, it was hard to get any vapor at first but then gave a little bit more of a pull like hitting a bong gave me some real nice dense cloud instantaneously. Also, the mouthpiece does get really hot after 2-3 hits. I don't know if it's because of the duration of inhale or is it because the battery is always connected if you don't put the safety pin in (which requires you to unscrew the bottom switch and stick it through.) I don't favor this because it just takes extra time to do so in a stealth POV I'd like to say it's gonna take some time getting used to taking this out. It gets really hot above the 3 pin-sized holes extending to the mouthpiece so you've got to take breaks in between if you're sharing to let the ceramic cool down. Which is fine with me but for some people who are looking to get ripped from this product you're looking at a HOT product that needs users to take their time to consume their herbs. I can tell you that I got high after 3-6 inhales. The air resistance is close to none so pull as hard as you want but if it's not preheated then you're gonna end up firing up the battery again once you realized you didn't get anything from cold start. TBH, this is a great vaporizer but it has it's disadvantages as well as most portable vaporizers nowadays still do (one example is the PAX vaporizer's mouthpiece unable to reposition itself inside the casing without trying more than once to do so.)

ABV is not consistent and I have problems producing that evenly browned ABV but I guess it's due to how well you can master the technique of inhalation through the Cera. Probably I'm inhaling at a quick speed so whatever is closer to the core will be vaped first before the warm air can start to produce vapors from the top of the bowl. This is not a bad thing as well because some people who are experienced with vapes would know that a little stirring would help produce evenly tasty vapors. If you do stir, try to buy some mini stainless steel screens that will fit the inlet holes in the bowl. If you don't have time or can't find any, then you're gonna want to pour it out and mix a bit then put it back in. That's just me though, I can't say that it will taste as great if you don't stir it a bit but for sure the airflow of the device goes upwards so I'd chose to stir just so it tastes good through the whole bowl and that'll save me money re-upping again next time.

Surely the positive thing is that the Cera works with a few perks you gotta get used to. I don't like having to deal with not being able to just push the safety pin right in the hole. It just won't go through without the need of unscrewing the bottom switch off first so that the battery can come out and allow the passage for the pin itself. I also don't favor the fact that if you don't remember to put the pin in after a session, you'll most likely have a long wait time for the Cera to cool down but I read somewhere around here that some member got a electronic insulator case which cools the inside and seems like it could fit the Cera's body well. I don't recommend that case for EO cart users though. The oil inside the cartridge will be risked spilling through the mouthpiece and that's just a hassle to clean something that sticky all the time. That being said, it is essential to have your Cera in a vertical position if being brought with in times of travel (don't put the cera lying horizontally in the car either after a quick session either.) I think the cool thing about this vaporizer is the ability to clean it instead of buying cartridges, tanks, or stuff like that because it clearly doesn't save you the money in the end. With the Cera you have that privilege to get it cleaned easily by using ISO to wipe down the LL cart or boil/torch the EO cart to just clear out all the excess oils you had going in there.

Now the EO cart is a virtue. I say that because you will be surprised at how well this stuff really works. Besides the fact that it still gets hot rather quickly in the LL cart, you don't really get that much heat from the EO cart because the oils are vaporized much quicker than herb. You still gotta preheat the cart so I suggest watching it at first so that you can see the whole action take place. You wanna soak the wafer at the bottom but also have the sides sticky with some if you could. I have some Blue Jack wax and it's so tasty but got me coughing in a matter of seconds. I don't think you should hit it slow either. For some reason, it's better to just inhale as fast as you would like but not as slow because you wouldn't intake most of the vapor thats producing from the white wafer down under the bowl. Man and I can tell you one thing before the Blue Jack was put in, I tried some budder in here and it seems to me that you can now truly figure out if someone purged their oils or waxes right or not. I love this about it because now you have a quality product that can spot the difference between varieties of waxes and other essential oils. The mouthpiece from the inside will get sticky a bit but again nothing ISO does the trick once you decide to wipe it off. If you ever stop by a Walmart or Target go get some 91% bottles if you could.

I like the fact that this product works well at first hand. Even with some of it's disadvantages, it is definitely a sacrifice so I would say that this product is truly for those who want a real vaping experience without the hassle of spending more money on rebuilding carts or maintenance. I wish that T.E.T would somewhere along the line create an instructions booklet so that their customers would have an easier understanding of properly using the device. I would still like to point out that you don't want to get batteries that are not safely recommended because this product does get HOT rather quickly and can burn or hurt others if not handled properly. Another thing that boggles my mind is that T.E.T said batteries were short (at the time I assumed they have some nice special batteries coming through) but turns out to be from orbtronics and this is what I found.

http://www.orbtronic.com/batteries-...li-ion-battery-button-top-panasonic-orbtronic

I mean you could get two for the price you paid at T.E.T. just saying!

I would like to also mention that 2250 batteries will definitely be a nice addition to LL cart users because they have a faster warm-up time than that of the 2900 batteries that T.E.T. provides. That is if you're willing to sacrifice battery life over warm-up time. EO cart users will surely benefit from both so it doesn't matter. If there is any advice I'd give out before I end my review is to stay put because you're waiting for a nice treat just as I did! I know that there will be some modifications to the safety pin which has already been done but I want to see a flushed up/down switch than can also act as a thermal sleeve as well. I do think a latching switch is vital to have with any of the carts because nobody wants to stick their fingers through the bottom. It's just not comfortable to do so everytime but I guess you'll forget once you're stoned but that also brings up my awareness about the battery still having connections to the cart even if not used the mouthpiece and body above the 3 pinholes will get hot on its own because of direct contact with the cart. The safety pins has its advantages though. It can help save battery time so you wouldn't have to charge too often. But definitely not appealing to unscrew the bottom every time you want to stick the pin back in. Now I'm off to start another session and let's see how we do on my second try. Be back later!
If the buttons not pushed in your not using the battery.
 
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CG420

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If the buttons not pushed in your not using the battery.

Yeah my mistake, I just found that out right now. I tested to see if it would still be hot without the safety pin and it wasn't hot at all. Sorry about that I just thought that at the time of using it. Gonna re-edit my review right now.
 

xclarryx

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WTF? my cera went thru processing at the colombus, OH facility TWICE?! just tracked the package, it says it processed thru sort facility on the 23rd at 12AM, departed the facility, then got processed thru the exact same sort facility again at 6pm??
 
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WTF? my cera went thru processing at the colombus, OH facility TWICE?! just tracked the package, it says it processed thru sort facility on the 23rd at 12AM, departed the facility, then got processed thru the exact same sort facility again at 6pm??
Its probably just an error or was supposed to be sent out and missed the truck.
 

xclarryx

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i think cera takes winner for the longest wait ive ever had for something that i ordered online. and ive ordered a LOT of junk online these past 5 or 6 years hahah
 

Sonics420

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Holy crap...combusted with the cera. I found a way for direct air flow.
I put a screen on top of a packed cera bowl. Thermal condom over MP cover only with a glass straw. Sitting directly on the screen.. my friend went for a huge hit and combusted lol.. i know the limits now but if u r a cloud chaser the LL works for that too, with mods.


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I ended up using my dbv wand on top of the screen with thermal condom. Smooth hits and clouds.

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I used an even smaller stem that with a domed screen and stuck it on the ceramic heater, held in place with thermal condom.
The cera just turned into a solo LOL
 

YeeeBuddy

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A few words of advice for new LL users, i have been getting ALOT better results with a almost powder fine grind that is nice and dry, literally i tried to vape some freshly ground herb and was getting little whispy clouds and the bowl was taking forever to vape, left the herb container open on my desk for 4 hours while i was at work and the difference is night and day, serious hits, nice and evenly brown abv. I have just been using the stock cera cap and mouthpiece with great results, vapor is cool and doesnt irritate my tounge or throat, still makes me cough but i take that as the sign of a good hit lol. This thing really medicates too, i was combusting around 2 grams a day taking huge bong/bubbler rips and since i got cera last monday I havnt burned once. Trust me if this thing wasnt getting the job done I would still be combusting. I have cut my flower bill in half should be saving around 75-100$ a week( yea i was combusting alot with no regard to conserving) I initally bought cera for the EO cart and added the LL as an afterthought but i am really falling in love lol. The EO cart is awesome as well but their is something about medicating with LL that i dont get from the EO even though it has way more THC per hit, I'm not really sure how to explain this, this isnt really a cera problem just my opinion of EO i think, I use it at work and on the go because its obviously a hell of alot better than not medicating at all. Once i get home its LL all the way .

cg420 i dunno how much you load but i havnt had any problems laying it horizontally after a sesh, also have left it in my hotass car, maybe overfilled the wax thats not melted into the ceramic would get hot and run around, this is what my EO cart looks like freshly loaded with .3-.4 of some nice wax, its weighing 42.50g's ( was 42.12 dry ) This is about the max i load mine if i dont want it getting real messy.
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AirDru

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So i got my cera back from TET and she is performing amazingly. I bought the cera with the EO in mind but i cant tell you how impressed i am the LL core. I have been vaping some very "cheesy/musky" super silver haze. it tastes amazing through the cera! those first few hits taste unreal. im also really impressed with how medicated i get from one bowl out of the LL core.

notice the even browning with no combustion.

no complaints with the LL here.
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CG420

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TBH, I like the LL cart because of it's efficiency to produce nice vapors. The EO cart rips well though so long as you make sure you have a clean and correctly purged wax or whatever oils you may want to use. I feel like you need to get the inhale technique down and that matters a lot because if you're pulling too fast you'll get nothing but pulling too slow will give you nothing as well. I'm only one day in on breaking in my Cera but it looks pretty good. An advice I'd give out is to not use those black O-rings that came with the package to put on your EO carts. I found it extremely difficult to unscrew the cartridge and even burned the skin between my index and thumb finger trying to unscrew it (thought the 3rd lower ring melted but that wasn't the case, it was just making it a lot harder to unscrew.) Also, one of the black O rings snapped off when I tried to screw in the MP as well. Just stick to the orange O rings if you trust me on this you will save yourself the trouble of being scared that you can't unscrew it out. I had to use a hand clamp to unscrew it out and it worked but man those black O rings are not worth putting on. I even dirtied the inside of my MP for trying so hard to twist it in (you can't really just push it down, you gotta turn it as you push to get the MP on.) Try to keep your desk or hands clean because the ceramic body can catch dark marks quite easily. It helps to go buy a rag or something to wipe it down as you will notice how the heat can make you sweat your hands a bit.. that's if you hold the whole body most of the time. Tried some PR Skywalker OG in the LL cart yesterday and man that knocked me out for a couple hours. I can say you get the OG fuel and lemony bliss altogether and that does a ton for me as I'm a fan of flavors not just the high.
 
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3serieSensi

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Any problems so far with this pin thing?

As to grinders, good herb really doesn't need to be ground, or more precisely it can be ground with fingers. i understand instances where grinding with a machine is advantageous (like for smell on fingers) and when herb is just too csticky i guess? usually well cured herb is okay with a finger smash, and then a restir later if it's particularly globular while vaping

[grinders] SA, surface area, s u r f a c e a r e a . I know; but at what cost?

Decided to drop in with a new picture of the family.
I bet there are a few people this was posted to classified though. :brow:

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Hey can you give a description of what those parts are? I got batteries and cap, whip...

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3serieSensi,

Quetzalcoatl

DEADY GUERRERO/DIRT COBAIN/GEORGE KUSH
I spy a T1, Evolution, Cera, and an Apex Ultra with a DART. The cartridges are a DART, then a DART with the moisturizing tip (Smooth Flo? I forget the name), a Revolution, and what I think is an AVA (e-cig cart.) Then a couple of mouthpieces, and the LL and EO carts/cores.

Also re: the aluminum and Alzheimer's, as far as I'm aware there is no direct correlation between aluminum and Alzheimer's, other than people with Alzheimer's have aluminum build-up. They're not sure if it's because of the aluminum building up, or if the disease enables aluminum to build up. I think a grinder isn't much of a concern when you have food and drinks in such packaging, you cook food with Reynolds Wrap, there's aluminum-based chemicals in your deodorant, etc. A grinder isn't high on my list, especially since this one doesn't flake/break slivers off.
 

Soflo

Only birdshit and fools
So I finally bit the bullet and ordered a ti Cera Eo.
after following this thread since december of last year I
realized it was time to put down the atmos and get to business.
I started with an omicron, moved to hvd, didn't care for either,
went to atmos raw and dealt with it for waay too long.
So now I will be playing with the big boys with the cool toys,
can't wait for my date with Cera!
 

nickzzzx

Well-Known Member
So I finally bit the bullet and ordered a ti Cera Eo.
after following this thread since december of last year I
realized it was time to put down the atmos and get to business.
I started with an omicron, moved to hvd, didn't care for either,
went to atmos raw and dealt with it for waay too long.
So now I will be playing with the big boys with the cool toys,
can't wait for my date with Cera!
You're gonna love it. I can tell you right now that it will probably become your daily driver for oil. I love mine. It's become my favorite piece. I have the SS EO cart and it's the best device and method I've ever used to vape oils. I'm not even exaggerating, it's that good. The thing is, it's just so simple in design, which makes it very easy to use. It works exactly as advertised.
The vapor I get out of it is more diffuse than the vapor I get from water percolation. It's noticeably smoother on my throat than other cartridge vapes I've tried.
The flavor is pure, it tastes just like the concentrate you put in. I had problems getting a pure flavor out of my omicron carts (not to mention the limited life span and clogs/leaks), so it's nice to have have clean untainted vapor. That's how it should be imo. The materials of the cera allow the vapor to be untainted, but still dense. It can be conservative and produce just a little bit of vapor if you want or it can produce a bunch of vapor and make you cough your lungs out. Micro dabs to full size dabs depending on how long you hold the button.
Loading it is too easy. No more funnels! Just give it some heat, melt the concentrate in, give it some more heat and wait for it to soak into the porous ceramic. Put the mouth piece back on, hold the button, and you're vaping. I haven't had to clean it yet other than wiping the condensed vapor off the deflector of the mouthpiece with my finger. Super easy. Deep cleaning with isopropyl alcohol is possible after many grams have been through the cartridge, cool, it's reusable!
Hooking it up to a bong is too easy. Just put the o-ring around the mouthpiece and put it into your glass on glass downstem. I've even done it without an o-ring and it worked fine. Mmmm, vapor milk.
I'm very satisfied with my cera. I feel like this is the vape I've been looking for all this time.
 
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