alex91
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I already have the Stinger mouthpiece and I plan on using with the Blackwood instead of the Vortex I already have. Do you think it would be much worse than a Revolve 2 + Tempest wood sleeve?
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I already have the Stinger mouthpiece and I plan on using with the Blackwood instead of the Vortex I already have. Do you think it would be much worse than a Revolve 2 + Tempest wood sleeve?
General Disaster
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Sadly I'm poorly qualified to say with any accuracy, the Revolve is my main stem experience, so I can mostly just wax lyrical about how impressed I was to get a gob-full of what felt like cold vapour!
Not to mention the endless reviews at Madheaters (and elsewhere) extolling it's virtues, and those from people with more experience of other stems I reckon.
I'd imagine from what I (don't
) know about the Stinger, if your Stinger stem can cope with the Stinger, I'd expect the TA to be in a similar range of heat capacitance and be ok too.Besides, if you already have that stem, what harm trying it out before spending your hard earned/stolen readies?
emily
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I have had a Simrell MVS and I have a Tempest wood stem. The tempest stem has a similar design to the Revolve 2.
I was surprised to find that the Tempest stem cools the vapor considerably more than the Simrell. I don't know how Mad Heaters does it, but it cools the TA3 to the point where I wonder if I got any vapor, and then I blow out a giant cloud.
General Disaster
A Total disMember
But according to Chaos Theory, it could be that just that little bit extra butane you use tips the whole planetary weather system into total chaos and unpredictability! The vape session to end all vape sessions, literally! And we'll all know who's fault it was!
kegstandman420
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this is my ta3 on a simrell vortex and a simrell wpa. I actually ordered his new brass stinger that just came out to make a full stem with the wpa. Both stems stay surprisingly cool with the ta3. I will say when I put the ta3 on my tempest with wooden sleeve that the mouthpiece was pretty hot by the end. The cooling unit definitely was doing it's job!
TedJones
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I threw mine back on the Dovetail stem after it was in need of a good cleaning and set aside during a lot of wpa activity. This time left out the inter-cooler that was sliding around and wow, what a difference. Around 6-7 nice & easier pulls on a full bowl. 
Unfortunately chipped the MP with a fingernail & the wrong size o-ring when reassembling 
Unfortunately chipped the MP with a fingernail & the wrong size o-ring when reassembling 
BushRanger
Hit It & Quit It
Been practicing a little, switching to zirc balls...starting to enjoy it more.
Radwin Bodnic
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Hey all,
I recently bought a new stem for my TA :
This is a fixed condenser all glass stem.
Previously I used a very simple glass one hitter as a stem. I quite liked it because it was easy to clean, flavorful, fully open and made of thick glass. But the stem could get real hot if chaining bowls at the point that I had to hold it by the first inch to be comfortable.
This is why I bought the new stem. And indeed the vapor only traveling through the inner condenser, the outer wall remains cool. And the mouthpiece is very comfortable. still not perfect though...
First, it has a noticeable restriction.
Then if I don't close the carb I get almost no vapor. Most of the air is coming from the carb, and yes the TA airflow disc is fully open.
Therefore I have to maintain my thumb or index on the carb as I hit, missing the double flow function. And this is not my favorite way to hold it (better with the thumb over the carb actually).
It's the first stem with a carb hole that I use. Do I miss something ?
The gap between the part of the TA bowl that goes inside the stem and the condenser is quite big (almost a centimeter).
Would shortening this gap (by shortening the stem) allows to adjust the vapor/air ratio (considering I don't want to close the carb) ?
Or is this thing just poorly designed ?
Thanks for the help.
I recently bought a new stem for my TA :
This is a fixed condenser all glass stem.
Previously I used a very simple glass one hitter as a stem. I quite liked it because it was easy to clean, flavorful, fully open and made of thick glass. But the stem could get real hot if chaining bowls at the point that I had to hold it by the first inch to be comfortable.
This is why I bought the new stem. And indeed the vapor only traveling through the inner condenser, the outer wall remains cool. And the mouthpiece is very comfortable. still not perfect though...
First, it has a noticeable restriction.
Then if I don't close the carb I get almost no vapor. Most of the air is coming from the carb, and yes the TA airflow disc is fully open.
Therefore I have to maintain my thumb or index on the carb as I hit, missing the double flow function. And this is not my favorite way to hold it (better with the thumb over the carb actually).
It's the first stem with a carb hole that I use. Do I miss something ?
The gap between the part of the TA bowl that goes inside the stem and the condenser is quite big (almost a centimeter).
Would shortening this gap (by shortening the stem) allows to adjust the vapor/air ratio (considering I don't want to close the carb) ?
Or is this thing just poorly designed ?
Thanks for the help.
Alligator427
Well-Known Member
Let you know your feeling. I like my tempest with 3mm zirconia balls and think maybe to change the balls of my TA3.
coolbreeze
Well-Known Member
It's hard to say if it would ever work the way a Dynavap would but with those, the condenser is slightly inside the tip, balanced between drawing from both sources. It might be possible to do as you suggest, cut the outer glass to a better length aimed at balance. To answer your other question, my glass stems with carb can only be used with the hole closed, sort of like a mini steamroller.Hey all,
I recently bought a new stem for my TA :
This is a fixed condenser all glass stem.
Previously I used a very simple glass one hitter as a stem. I quite liked it because it was easy to clean, flavorful, fully open and made of thick glass. But the stem could get real hot if chaining bowls at the point that I had to hold it by the first inch to be comfortable.
This is why I bought the new stem. And indeed the vapor only traveling through the inner condenser, the outer wall remains cool. And the mouthpiece is very comfortable. still not perfect though...
First, it has a noticeable restriction.
Then if I don't close the carb I get almost no vapor. Most of the air is coming from the carb, and yes the TA airflow disc is fully open.
Therefore I have to maintain my thumb or index on the carb as I hit, missing the double flow function. And this is not my favorite way to hold it (better with the thumb over the carb actually).
It's the first stem with a carb hole that I use. Do I miss something ?
The gap between the part of the TA bowl that goes inside the stem and the condenser is quite big (almost a centimeter).
Would shortening this gap (by shortening the stem) allows to adjust the vapor/air ratio (considering I don't want to close the carb) ?
Or is this thing just poorly designed ?
Thanks for the help.
Sour Dream
Blue Dream enthusiast
Reminds me of a Harry Potter wand with how long it is lol it’s dope tho they make great stuffMine is on a @Aezhenn wood and glass stem (it can be short or long like on the pic) and i really enjoy it. The long version have a more restrictive draw but the vapor production is awesome.
TedJones
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That’s how the XL dyna condenser sits in my wooden stem too. Found my Omni condenser and mouthpiece also fit (yea!) and that’s even further away. It’s going to be hard to get anything going without covering the carb (at least initially). A different feeling pull for sure but I’m getting used to it.
Radwin Bodnic
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Thanks for the heads up @coolbreeze.
Could you share examples of these stems ? In a message or another thread if it's off topic.
Your answer makes me wonder if shortening the outer tube will have any impact on the ratio of air passing through the thermal matrix or through the carb...
It might worth a try (this she costs 20€). But I don't even really know how to cut a borosilicate tube that thick. I'm pretty sure just marking the cut line with a file and levering the two parts won't work here...
So you hold the carb anytime ?
TedJones
Well-Known Member
Yea, carb is covered for most of the session. I’ll let a little bit of air in the mix when needed.
coolbreeze
Well-Known Member
Fwiw, I have broken a couple less-expensive glass WPAs so I'm using only thick glass stems now. These are examples that are mostly thick enough, I think:
For the four stems to the right, the first two are carbed, the second two are not. The bluish one, the clear one next, and the green are very thick, and perfect for this I think. The two with marias are my top picks because those really arrest the spread of heat down the stem. My top choice, left, is very thick, has marias, no carb, and looks great! ; ) I think the green Aristocrat stem is probably the easiest to find and it's a thick stem. The carbed ones I tend to use with my Woodscents.
Yeah, I would think it'd be difficult to get it just right. But the internal tube in yours may still have some cooling effect if it lengthens the path for some of the vapor and adds some turbulence, as in the grey OWW Inception stem.
Electrofever
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That would be an idea, but you would have to be super precise, the gap between the small glass condenser and the TA should leave more or less the same quantity of air passe through than what goes through the TA. So it does seem quite difficult to achieve correctly.