The WOODEN Vaporizer Thread

Perfect_Speed4069

I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
One of our friends asked to see my Dreamwood vapes. I think this is all of them. ; )
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Fwiw, my most used are the two Birch DLXs and the Plum Punch.
So, DLX vs the 420eng Steamwhistle. How would you compare the two? And where would the Lamart Piro fit in this lineup?
 

coolbreeze

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So, DLX vs the 420eng Steamwhistle. How would you compare the two? And where would the Lamart Piro fit in this lineup?
Lamart Piro's on top, it's so easy to use and control. It's probably the easiest recommendation of the whole genre. It's got a huge range for heating. The only issue at all is that the intake points the wrong way for some--mostly taller--water pipes. Otoh, this is what also makes it perfect for many smaller pipes. A Piro and a DLX will have you covered.

DLX vs the Steamwhistle? The Steamwhistle may be marginally easier for people with less experience, the diffused intake really helps even things out. It really has no shortcomings that stick out for me, tbh, it's an excellent brick-style vape. I don't think it's heads and tails above the DLXs by any means--they're almost as easy to use--but the care and innovation in the design add up to a highly refined brick. It is easy to use, very productive but easily adjustable.

The Kalu Infinity is about as easy to use, it's like an artsy Steamwhistle. If it lacks the precision of the Steamwhistle's design it makes up for it in pure artistry.

Fwiw, the DLX Pros and Switch (as well as the GVB Submarine) are also using a diffused intake which has the same heat-taming abilities as the Steamwhistle or the Infinity.
 

RedZep

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Lamart Piro's on top, it's so easy to use and control. It's probably the easiest recommendation of the whole genre. It's got a huge range for heating. The only issue at all is that the intake points the wrong way for some--mostly taller--water pipes. Otoh, this is what also makes it perfect for many smaller pipes. A Piro and a DLX will have you covered.

DLX vs the Steamwhistle? The Steamwhistle may be marginally easier for people with less experience, the diffused intake really helps even things out. It really has no shortcomings that stick out for me, tbh, it's an excellent brick-style vape. I don't think it's heads and tails above the DLXs by any means--they're almost as easy to use--but the care and innovation in the design add up to a highly refined brick. It is easy to use, very productive but easily adjustable.

The Kalu Infinity is about as easy to use, it's like an artsy Steamwhistle. If it lacks the precision of the Steamwhistle's design it makes up for it in pure artistry.

Fwiw, the DLX Pros and Switch (as well as the GVB Submarine) are also using a diffused intake which has the same heat-taming abilities as the Steamwhistle or the Infinity.
How do you rank your bricks in terms of airflow? Least open to most open, when half filled.

No need for full on experiments. Just reflections from memory would be really useful for me. I know the more open ones can be more unwieldy, yet they confer an advantage in that I can use them more often with my jaw condition.

Sorry if this is asking too much. You have to be one of the only people to have experienced all the bricks in existence. It's a vape type that is increasingly becoming one of my favourite ways to consume flower.
 

coolbreeze

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How do you rank your bricks in terms of airflow? Least open to most open, when half filled.

No need for full on experiments. Just reflections from memory would be really useful for me. I know the more open ones can be more unwieldy, yet they confer an advantage in that I can use them more often with my jaw condition.

Sorry if this is asking too much. You have to be one of the only people to have experienced all the bricks in existence. It's a vape type that is increasingly becoming one of my favourite ways to consume flower.
I think the Retrosteam Diamond is the most restricted (I assume the pipes are as well), Sticky Bricks, esp the Flip, are next (with the Twist probably most open), I'd put the Dreamwoods as pretty unrestricted, the Piro, Steamwhistle, and Infinity seem at least as open maybe slightly more, and Doug's Cosmo is very, very open.

For the SBLs, I think the combo of the bigger bowl and the metal tube work against each other insofar as there's a restricted point and more weed to break down finer and more clog-inducing. I don't find them problematic, just a little different. A courser grind really helps there. Bricks also tend to be injector-friendly for folks concerned about torches.

The SBL Twist and the O'Connell Infinity/Flux Capacitor are torch vapes built on injector bowls (OWW's wooden vapes fit his TKO injector as well).

Hope this helps. Glad to see you enjoying these vapes, they're so fun and effective!
 

Perfect_Speed4069

I am the beetle in a box that only you can see
Hope this helps.
Have you ever considered yourself to be a world-class expert in these matters? I don't think it's immodest to accept this honorific, certainly as far as FC is concerned. Anyway, thankyou for sharing your knowledge so generously and so frequently. And for wearing your knowledge so lightly
 

coolbreeze

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Have you ever considered yourself to be a world-class expert in these matters? I don't think it's immodest to accept this honorific, certainly as far as FC is concerned. Anyway, thankyou for sharing your knowledge so generously and so frequently. And for wearing your knowledge so lightly
Thank you for your kindness. I'm just having fun getting high with you all. ❤️
 

DgN'R

I'm No Superman!
It's a vape type that is increasingly becoming one of my favourite ways to consume flower.

Glad to see you enjoying these vapes, they're so fun and effective!

One of the interesting things about all these direct inhalation brands is the addition of a turbulence hole (which must never be covered) between the flame intake and the bowl. The addition of ambient air before reaching the bowl (and after flame intake) is probably the best thing about this design. This agitates and cleans butane compounds still present from the heated air via the intake. So, there's less risk of combustion and more homogeneous heating (with fewer harmful particles or parasitic tastes (depending on the type of butane used)). The carb hole after the bowl is optional and depends on your preferences (this one can be closed completely with a carb cork but personally I like to play with it). It seems to me that only Triihouse, Sticky Brick Labs and Dreamwood add this turbulence to their designs?

Personally, for about two years now, I've been using Clipper brand (Flamagas, Barcelona, Spain) 100% premium I(SO)-Butane (Clipper Pure, refined 12x that ensures clean/complete combustion is residue-free, 98% I-Butane, 1.60% Propane, 0.38% N-Butane and 0.02% others..) and I've never tasted butane or gotten a parasitic taste (and yet I'm very sensitive). I personally find it purer than the Colibri (Unitask NV, Antwerp, Belgium) because I think this one smells really bad (54% N-Butane, 24% I-Butane and 22% Propane). However, in comparison, it seems to have a slightly lower calorific value (heating power) due to the very low Propane content, but this does not seem to be a problem for our usage with bricks (quite the contrary). My torch lighters are in excellent condition working. To date I've only tried Colibri and Clipper Pure.

In the USA, many options are apparently available? such as Puretane (99.9998% N-Butane and 0.0002% I-Butane) triple refined by through fractional distillation, 11X filtered (to remove every last possible impurity), seamless aluminum cans (eliminates all toxic manufacturing lubricants typically required for welding seams) in a food grade canister (BPA free plastic lining, protects against corrosion on the interior of the can), clean, colorless and odorless.. but here in Europe the choices are very limited..

The only disadvantage of bricks for me is that you need good eyesight (especially outdoors or on a very sunny day) and no trembling (and also that you need both hands to play properly). You must be relaxed and accept the ritual.. It's not a vape to be used at alcoholic parties either.. Instant draw flame vape is something magical :nod:


 

RedZep

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One of the interesting things about all these direct inhalation brands is the addition of a turbulence hole (which must never be covered) between the flame intake and the bowl. The addition of ambient air before reaching the bowl (and after flame intake) is probably the best thing about this design. This agitates and cleans butane compounds still present from the heated air via the intake. So, there's less risk of combustion and more homogeneous heating (with fewer harmful particles or parasitic tastes (depending on the type of butane used)). The carb hole after the bowl is optional and depends on your preferences (this one can be closed completely with a carb cork but personally I like to play with it). It seems to me that only Triihouse, Sticky Brick Labs and Dreamwood add this turbulence to their designs?

Personally, for about two years now, I've been using Clipper brand (Flamagas, Barcelona, Spain) 100% premium I(SO)-Butane (Clipper Pure, refined 12x that ensures clean/complete combustion is residue-free, 98% I-Butane, 1.60% Propane, 0.38% N-Butane and 0.02% others..) and I've never tasted butane or gotten a parasitic taste (and yet I'm very sensitive). I personally find it purer than the Colibri (Unitask NV, Antwerp, Belgium) because I think this one smells really bad (54% N-Butane, 24% I-Butane and 22% Propane). However, in comparison, it seems to have a slightly lower calorific value (heating power) due to the very low Propane content, but this does not seem to be a problem for our usage with bricks (quite the contrary). My torch lighters are in excellent condition working. To date I've only tried Colibri and Clipper Pure.

In the USA, many options are apparently available? such as Puretane (99.9998% N-Butane and 0.0002% I-Butane) triple refined by through fractional distillation, 11X filtered (to remove every last possible impurity), seamless aluminum cans (eliminates all toxic manufacturing lubricants typically required for welding seams) in a food grade canister (BPA free plastic lining, protects against corrosion on the interior of the can), clean, colorless and odorless.. but here in Europe the choices are very limited..

The only disadvantage of bricks for me is that you need good eyesight (especially outdoors or on a very sunny day) and no trembling (and also that you need both hands to play properly). You must be relaxed and accept the ritual.. It's not a vape to be used at alcoholic parties either.. Instant draw flame vape is something magical :nod:


I've been pondering the turbulence hole on my Dreamwood, and SBL devices. I've been wandering specifically how a Dougs woodery Nova would function with one added. I'm tempted to get a custom one made to find out. Is there a chance a device could function worse with this addition?
 
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Perfect_Speed4069

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I've been wandering specifically how a Dougs woodery Nova would function with one added. I'm tempted to get a custom one made to find out. Is there a chance a device could function worse with this addition?
It's the kind of thing I'd expect Doug to have a view on.
 

coolbreeze

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The only disadvantage of bricks for me is that you need good eyesight (especially outdoors or on a very sunny day) and no trembling (and also that you need both hands to play properly). You must be relaxed and accept the ritual.. It's not a vape to be used at alcoholic parties either.. Instant draw flame vape is something magical :nod:
I have to use glasses most of the time now, kind of a bummer. But they are magical, so it's a small hindrance.

For people coming to bricks as newbs it's also useful to know that the SBL OG and the bong vapes are easier to learn on because of the visible vapor revealed by the longer glass vapor path. It's the easiest cue to use. Likewise it's often easier to learn the bong vapes on a j-hook first; the direct vapor path is easier to manage than the added restriction of water.

I've been using Clipper brand...
Thanks for this discussion. I've tried a handful of different brands, currently using Neon, and I think you've identified something something I didn't like about Whip It--the lack of propulsion. It's fine for big torches but for pocket torches it's a hindrance.
 

Flotsam

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I've been pondering the turbulence hole on my Dreamwood, and SBL devices. I've been wandering specifically how a Dougs woodery Nova would function with one added. I'm tempted to get a custom one made to find out. Is there a chance a device could function worse with this addition?
it would seem that if a turbulence hole was added, it could be a simple matter if you decided it was not beneficial or even hampered operation you could simply find a properly sized wooden dowel to plug such a hole.
 
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I've been pondering the turbulence hole on my Dreamwood, and SBL devices. I've been wandering specifically how a Dougs woodery Nova would function with one added. I'm tempted to get a custom one made to find out. Is there a chance a device could function worse with this addition?
I think the addition of turbulence hole can only be beneficial for this type of direct inhalation product (dioxygen is your best friend here). You can take inspiration from the SBL Junior to create something similar on the DW NOVA (although it's likely to be more difficult because the design is very different and you need to be very precise to achieve it).

High disturbances are generally signaled by a very loud whistling sound. It's usually on a draw like this that I get the best flavors, high and the biggest clouds. I don't know if this is due to the water vapour created by the complete combustion of the butane, but the draw are always extremely smooth and tasty (in addition to the huge clouds). Of course, the high is very powerful (and the AVB is never blackened with the right settings).

I've noticed that an bent flame intake doesn't provide the same performance and whistling. The signature is very different. I only get this particular whistling sound with my OG Brick and a straight flame intake. I've since replaced my bent flame intake with a straight one on my Runt and things are much better (I don't use a restrictor disc). However, the whistle is not as powerful as on the OG Brick (for me, this is the ultimate brick in terms of power, effect and flavor). The efficiency of this one is remarkable. The long and large mouthpiece probably has something to do with it too.

I don't get whistling sound like this on my NOVA with the bent flame intake and its SS thermal diffuser or on my Cuban and its ceramic flame guard/diffuser (although this one is a SS straight flame intake, but it doesn't offer a turbulence or carb hole). Don't get me wrong, I like my NOVA and my Cuban, and they're still part of my rotation (I'm also thinking of making a few changes to this), even though I use my SBL's most often. I'm also thinking of getting a Dreamwood Punch, but that will have to wait as I'm already spoiled with my SBL's :nod:

The key to a perfect draw (with its distinctive whistle) with a straight flame intake is to keep the flame as straight as possible in line with the flame intake (there is no optimum angle as with a bent intake). Whistling can also help you find your sweet spot. Of course, always keep the flame out of the intake (just need to find the right flame size from your torch lighter and scratch the top of the intake (the flared edge)).




(listen to that whistle, it's a great success from our friend @WakeAndVape :brow:)

(these are definitely my favorite vaporizers!)

Cheers! :peace:
 

gmocooties

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Anyone know anything about this Dreamwood model? Is it new? Can't find anything online about anyone trying it. I really like it. I wonder if it cools enough considering no glass.

https://greendream.shop/en/p/vapopipe-dlx-v3-santos-rosewood-dreamwood
I grabbed a Vapopipe recently during the BF sale! One of the Olivewood models - it's absolutely gorgeous and has quickly become a favourite among my Dreamwoods (I've got a few at this point... not quite as many as @coolbreeze though! What a collection! I'm a little jealous haha). I also noticed there was very little online about them, so please shoot if you have any questions!

The vapour can definitely be on the hotter side, as the wooden stem doesn't provide a huge amount of cooling. The stem has an 8mm bore though so it'll fit a condenser or something similar if so desired :) I'll occasionally pop a Revolve CU on the end of mine and it works a treat if I want some cooler vapour.

I prefer the V4 'turbo' straight intake over the bent - I'll typically use a triple flame lighter and feather the top of the intake, although a single flame will work too. Vapes beautifully, and can really hit like a truck.
 

RedZep

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I grabbed a Vapopipe recently during the BF sale! One of the Olivewood models - it's absolutely gorgeous and has quickly become a favourite among my Dreamwoods (I've got a few at this point... not quite as many as @coolbreeze though! What a collection! I'm a little jealous haha). I also noticed there was very little online about them, so please shoot if you have any questions!

The vapour can definitely be on the hotter side, as the wooden stem doesn't provide a huge amount of cooling. The stem has an 8mm bore though so it'll fit a condenser or something similar if so desired :) I'll occasionally pop a Revolve CU on the end of mine and it works a treat if I want some cooler vapour.

I prefer the V4 'turbo' straight intake over the bent - I'll typically use a triple flame lighter and feather the top of the intake, although a single flame will work too. Vapes beautifully, and can really hit like a truck.
Thanks. That's interesting about the 8mm connection. Is the connection secure? How do you find it with the Revolve? I imagine cooling is great, but is it tricky to find the right draw speed sweet spot?

Also how does it look with such a set up? I think the possibility to do this is definitely a positive, and makes me want one more.
 

invertedisdead

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High disturbances are generally signaled by a very loud whistling sound. It's usually on a draw like this that I get the best flavors, high and the biggest clouds.


This was my personal design for a direct butane powered vape 💨 I never did sell these but at one point I thought it could be the perfect vape.

Possibly my favorite for flavor.
 

gmocooties

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Thanks. That's interesting about the 8mm connection. Is the connection secure? How do you find it with the Revolve? I imagine cooling is great, but is it tricky to find the right draw speed sweet spot?

Also how does it look with such a set up? I think the possibility to do this is definitely a positive, and makes me want one more.
The connection is indeed secure - the Revolve CU sits nice and snug with no wiggle whatsoever. I'm assuming the sizing is pretty consistent across the ones he's made, but you can always shoot him (or the Green Dream store - I think it's run by his brother?) a message and double check!

My Vapopipe came with a removable black mouthpiece (which fits DV stems too) and the Revolve parts I'm using are also black, so the aesthetic difference is hardly noticeable. A coloured CU would probably look a title silly though. Because there's no airport, the Revolve CU is really just absorbing some of the heat and providing a very slight amount of draw restriction. I like it with and without the Revolve CU, and I've never really found it difficult to find the right draw speed. It's a pretty forgiving vape.

The 8mm bore also means you can use the pipe's stem as a (very) long Dynavap stem - ooks a bit Cruella DeVille-y but it works lol.

I'm away from home at the moment but I'll try taking a few pics in a day or two 👍
 

RedZep

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The connection is indeed secure - the Revolve CU sits nice and snug with no wiggle whatsoever. I'm assuming the sizing is pretty consistent across the ones he's made, but you can always shoot him (or the Green Dream store - I think it's run by his brother?) a message and double check!

My Vapopipe came with a removable black mouthpiece (which fits DV stems too) and the Revolve parts I'm using are also black, so the aesthetic difference is hardly noticeable. A coloured CU would probably look a title silly though. Because there's no airport, the Revolve CU is really just absorbing some of the heat and providing a very slight amount of draw restriction. I like it with and without the Revolve CU, and I've never really found it difficult to find the right draw speed. It's a pretty forgiving vape.

The 8mm bore also means you can use the pipe's stem as a (very) long Dynavap stem - ooks a bit Cruella DeVille-y but it works lol.

I'm away from home at the moment but I'll try taking a few pics in a day or two 👍
Nice. You say you have other Dreamwoods. Could you say if the cooling on the Vapopipe is similar to that of the Dobby? Would you describe the cooling as inadequate? Does the hot vapour discourage usage from yourself?
 
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