The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

General Disaster

Schrödinger's rat!
thinking about making the bowl golden as well
🎵 "Golden brown texture like sun
Lays me down with my mind she runs
Throughout the night, no need to fight
Never a frown with golden brown" 🎶

And very pretty it looks too!

[Edit:]
I'm thinking about suing @Brenyo...!
- for loss of earnings since receiving my Tempest 2!
The primary thrust of my argument is 😤😬🤯🤪🥴😵😴😴😴 ...
I've given it the benefit of the doubt, even trying a second time to ensure I wasn't being impulsive, but that, and subsequent tests (just to be sure I'm sure) haven't deviated from this exceptional behaviour. I'd also considered suing if I were a grower, as the Tempest 2's remarkable efficiency could well see a drop in sales! I have a seed currently trying to germinate on the off-chance I can call myself a grower and screw even more money off our favourite vape designer/maker/seller/lover!

Obviously I'd need permission of the court to ensure the jury fully appreciate what using a T2 is like to experience!

So I'm looking for advice here to help me attack poor old, long suffering, yet always delivering, Brenyo (whom has brought so much joy to us all) by suggesting how many full-bowl-sized back-to-back blasts each jury member should be mandated to consume, before being considered fit to start that days session in court?

Riding on the back of a possible amoral, despicable and petty win with this, is the introduction of a whole new area of legal defence (patent pending) which as the founding farter I should stand to profiteer handsomely from. 🤑

And as an added bonus I'd expect many orders from the juror's for more of the same for the evenings to help them contemplate the evidence presented that day, not to mention requests for larger supplies when the case is over! How can I lose?

Y'know, this T2 is great for generating idea's! Far better than ChatBS!

[... and just in case 😱 - yes, of course it's a joke 😈]
 
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van Blitzen

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i colored the bowl as well :) i like how it matches with the cooling fins on the stem in contrast to the blue.

🎵 "Golden brown texture like sun
Lays me down with my mind she runs
Throughout the night, no need to fight
Never a frown with golden brown" 🎶

And very pretty it looks too!
now i cant get the song out of my head :D
 
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Darkiori

New Member
Hey ppl, I just received my Tempest V2 and I have some "not nice things" with it:
1st: The heatshield is scratched. On the widest part of it. Not one, but at least 4 scratches. Not really a problem, at least is the problem I care less but feels weird being a 250€ device. Yes, I know that titanium is prone to scratch, but it's a brand new unused device.
2nd: Can't use the reload magnet to open it handsfree anymore, it just spins and spins. Seems that the screw touches directly on the magnet instead the whole head and it can't be further screwed in.
3rd: The VI marks on the housing seem unpolished and quite rought, not at the point to be able to cut myself with it, but I'm quite sure it can scratch things.
4th: For god's sake, I can't open the ball chamber, seems totally stuck. Using reload's debowler and a proper screwdriver
I noticed all of this (in that order xD) while I was trying to do the first cleanup. Everything was properly packed btw.
Annd now I am here overusing the V1 with rubies dreaming about the V2 with Rubies
(won't risk using it and then not being able to clean it properly till I talk with customer support on EU shop in case I have to send back the whole device)

Damn, the wait is real xD
 
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Brenyo

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Manufacturer
Hey ppl, I just received my Tempest V2 and I have some "not nice things" with it:
1st: The heatshield is scratched. On the widest part of it. Not one, but at least 4 scratches. Not really a problem, at least is the problem I care less but feels weird being a 250€ device. Yes, I know that titanium is prone to scratch, but it's a brand new unused device.
2nd: Can't use the reload magnet to open it handsfree anymore, it just spins and spins. Seems that the screw touches directly on the magnet instead the whole head and it can't be further screwed in.
3rd: The VI marks on the housing seem unpolished and quite rought, not at the point to be able to cut myself with it, but I'm quite sure it can scratch things.
4th: For god's sake, I can't open the ball chamber, seems totally stuck. Using reload's debowler and a proper screwdriver
I noticed all of this (in that order xD) while I was trying to do the first cleanup. Everything was properly packed btw.
Annd now I am here overusing the V1 with rubies dreaming about the V2 with Rubies
(won't risk using it and then not being able to clean it properly till I talk with customer support on EU shop in case I have to send back the whole device)

Damn, the wait is real xD
Sorry for the trouble, you can start using it, I’ll sort it out for you from the UK. I’m aware of these issues now and improved the QC, these shouldn’t happen anymore with the US orders.

1. Please drop me an email through the UK store, I’ll get back to you in a few days.

2. The screw is either not tightened down properly or there is a tiny tiny burr trapped under the screw that needs removing.

3. That’s a first, I’ll replace it ofc.

4. Try to shake the balls away from the middle and force it open. Remove 1 ball and it should work fine.
 

MegaChip

Active Member
Is there any consensus on the different profiles of the balls/Rubie's?

I am currently using the zircs and wonder if they are right for me. I prefer long sessions, sipping from time to time with MTL hits.
 

Vapogz

New Member
Hey ppl, I just received my Tempest V2 and I have some "not nice things" with it:
1st: The heatshield is scratched. On the widest part of it. Not one, but at least 4 scratches. Not really a problem, at least is the problem I care less but feels weird being a 250€ device. Yes, I know that titanium is prone to scratch, but it's a brand new unused device.
2nd: Can't use the reload magnet to open it handsfree anymore, it just spins and spins. Seems that the screw touches directly on the magnet instead the whole head and it can't be further screwed in.
3rd: The VI marks on the housing seem unpolished and quite rought, not at the point to be able to cut myself with it, but I'm quite sure it can scratch things.
4th: For god's sake, I can't open the ball chamber, seems totally stuck. Using reload's debowler and a proper screwdriver
I noticed all of this (in that order xD) while I was trying to do the first cleanup. Everything was properly packed btw.
Annd now I am here overusing the V1 with rubies dreaming about the V2 with Rubies
(won't risk using it and then not being able to clean it properly till I talk with customer support on EU shop in case I have to send back the whole device)

Damn, the wait is real xD
Hello, I also received it from the EU site, mine also arrived with scratches on the shield and head, unfortunately the titanium scratches very quickly and the cardboard packaging does not help, so even if you take another one, it will be scratched, but don't worry even if it is made of striped titanium it is very strong and that's why it was chosen. The grooves of the indicator are as rough as in your photo when I pass my fingers, I feel them on mine, it's a little less pronounced than you, but I see it, so I think it's normal. And for the screw on my part, I had to screw it well, otherwise with the magnet, it tended to unscrew, maybe it could help you. But it's an incredible device @Brenyo did a great job and for that I want to drop the little problems, you wouldn't be disappointed with its performance. For the screen where there are balls, I made a heater, then I managed to remove it because it was blocked
 
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van Blitzen

Member
Is there any consensus on the different profiles of the balls/Rubie's?

I am currently using the zircs and wonder if they are right for me. I prefer long sessions, sipping from time to time with MTL hits.
I'm also curious about how the rubies perform in the V2, but I put them in the V1 when I got them and I absolutely love them! They feel so much better than the 2.5 mm zirconia balls and the open airflow is great. Next time I clean one unit, I will put the 3 mm zirconia balls in the V1 and the rubies in the V2, and I will report back for science!

@Brenyo Can u allready tell us whats included in the upgrade kit for the V1 ? im very interested how the v1 upgraded will perform compared to the v2.
 
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Dns18_05

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2. The screw is either not tightened down properly or there is a tiny tiny burr trapped under the screw that needs removing.
I made mine fairly tight and its still just rotating on the magnet. I can only open it with the inner tool on the reload and the screw is leaving scratches there. I don't see a bur that has to be removed, I think the hole would need to be countersunk a tiny bit more? Unfortunately I don't have a drill for countersinking that's small enough
I uploaded some pictures here
 

Aahyoo

Member
Just completed a full clean down of my V1 and V2. I should caveat the following by saying that I repair watches as a hobby so have appropriate tools and a possibly overactive eye for detail on finishes etc.. YMMV...

The V2 doesn't retain anywhere near as much reclaim as the V1, seemingly due to the reduced surface area of the cooling path. (As discussed already likely contributing to the increased efficiency)

Removal of the bowl screen and cleaning behind it is a must on both devices on every clean. You'll see.

I also had the issue with the burrs on the VI indicator markings and the not so grabby reload magnet, so decided to take bank holiday action..
My screw head was protruding slightly as was evident from the track it's been marking on the reload magnet; so I used 2500 grit to reduce the thickness of the screw head and on the VI housing to reduce burrs and flatten the top to ensure the screw wasn't sitting proud. I also checked the screw length and seat and decided that either the countersink wasn't deep enough or the screw head was too thick or wasn't level to start with.

I also had some light scratches around the heat shield, at it's widest point. I put this down to the cardboard tube and a quick twist with 2500 grit had these removed.

Visually I'm happy with the results on the VI markers; theyre not perfect or as clean as theose on the V1; but no longer feel proud and that's good enough for me for now.

On the 'grabbyness' of the magnet I'd say about a 10% improvement, but still definitely not as strong a hold. This is most noticable and only really an issue when screwing and unscrewing the cap on and off, vs that of the V1. As such the cap doesn't always feel screwed on tight enough when using the reload, and I often have to use the inside of the cap when it's hot just to get enough grip to remove it.

Next step will be to knock up a jig to check the VI housing is flat... but that's for another day now...

FWIW when I twist my V1 on the magnet the cap stays still and there is enough grip to turn the O rings in the stem.
 

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Wubba Lubba dub-dub
I made mine fairly tight and its still just rotating on the magnet. I can only open it with the inner tool on the reload and the screw is leaving scratches there. I don't see a bur that has to be removed, I think the hole would need to be countersunk a tiny bit more? Unfortunately I don't have a drill for countersinking that's small enough
I uploaded some pictures here
same experience
 

empieEast

New Member
Hey everyone, got my Tempest 2 recently and it's been really good!

Maybe a dumb question but what does changing the "open-ness" of the cap-airflow holes actually do? I mean it changes the amount of air coming in but wouldn't you always want it more open for more air, so more vapor? I'm probably misunderstanding the function in some way...
I've set the airflow holes at the cap at around halfway open currently.

Also, instead of putting my finger on the stem-airhole, can I just fully close it or will air still get in that way?
 
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Brenyo

Well-Known Member
Manufacturer
same experience
Anyone experiencing this issue, please send me an email, and I’ll arrange for a replacement part once they arrive in approximately 4-6 weeks. First, please fully remove the screw and clean the countersink with a Q-tip and the bottom of the screw head to make sure that it’s not just a piece of metal. I’ve found a few where only a new screw resolved the issue or where the countersink was not deep enough, though this is very rare.
 

MegaChip

Active Member
Hey everyone, got my Tempest 2 recently and it's been really good!

Maybe a dumb question but what does changing the "open-ness" of the cap-airflow holes actually do? I mean it changes the amount of air coming in but wouldn't you always want it more open for more air, so more vapor? I'm probably misunderstanding the function in some way...
I've set the airflow holes at the cap at around halfway open currently.

Also, instead of putting my finger on the stem-airhole, can I just fully close it or will air still get in that way?
It's for example about draw resistance. More air = better is not always true. If that was the case you would try to breath in really hard, considering that also leads to more air.

Some people prefer airy draws, some prefer tighter, more joint like draws
 
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empieEast

New Member
It's for example about draw resistance. More air = better is not always true. If that was the case you would try to breath in really hard, considering that also leads to more air.

Some people prefer airy draws, some prefer tighter, more joint like draws

aaah, okay I get it. I was actually wondering how to get more of a "joint-like" feel. Will give it a try :D
 
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Family photo, clean and ready for testing :science:
 

MegaChip

Active Member
I'm also curious about how the rubies perform in the V2, but I put them in the V1 when I got them and I absolutely love them! They feel so much better than the 2.5 mm zirconia balls and the open airflow is great. Next time I clean one unit, I will put the 3 mm zirconia balls in the V1 and the rubies in the V2, and I will report back for science!

@Brenyo Can u allready tell us whats included in the upgrade kit for the V1 ? im very interested how the v1 upgraded will perform compared to the v2.
In what way did the rubies feel better than the zirconia balls?.

From what I heard the upgrade kit essentially is a new top part of the head. New induction sleeve, ball retaining screen, indicator and indicator housing
 
MegaChip,

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Wubba Lubba dub-dub
Anyone experiencing this issue, please send me an email, and I’ll arrange for a replacement part once they arrive in approximately 4-6 weeks. First, please fully remove the screw and clean the countersink with a Q-tip and the bottom of the screw head to make sure that it’s not just a piece of metal. I’ve found a few where only a new screw resolved the issue or where the countersink was not deep enough, though this is very rare.
@Brenyo, This fixed my issue - Thanks!

I removed the screw completely this time and cleaned its tip and the hole (countersink) with a Q-tip as you said and a toothpick to go a bit deeper just in case.
It was a bit dirty but nothing special, I didn't notice anything fall out or off... but when I tightened it back together the hold was stronger! and now my tempest 2 doesn't spin anymore, even when hot and debowling, awesome!


edit: i forgot the feeling of screwing in/closing the reload with the tempest, feels goooood
 
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