The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

[n0tu2]

I found out I can order new "snap disks". I'm going to order two pairs and hope for the best. Seems there's variations in when they cool down

I don't think new ones would be any different..? Something is off with the cooldown calibration..

Initial heat up from cold first click/second click is tuned pretty good for a decent go of 3-5 nice (not roasty) hits assuming you stop right at 2nd loudest click. Then when placed on the Reload magnet 1st (light) cooldown click happens around 2 minutes after.. 2nd louder cooldown click is about 5 minutes after (if you respected the 2nd click exactly) these times are longer if you overheated the Tempest to push it (roasty) first go from cold. If you want to reheat right after the first nice 4 or 5 hits.. use the visual indicator and bring it to about the 2nd mark then hit.

Hopefully he comes out with some updated clickers.. It's my only gripe with the tempest but the indicator is a good workaround for second go in the meantime.

 

[mastamuc]

are there any news when a new batch of tempest are orderable?

 

[Tji89]

Around summer next year, I think Brenyo said.

 

[Brenyo]

Hopefully he comes out with some updated clickers..

I expect to have them around March.
On average, those will click back in 1 minute. If it would be even quicker it would click too early.

are there any news when a new batch of tempest are orderable?

Q2 next year

 

[.d]

Is there a good way to clean the VI without disassembling it? I've seen it disassembled and don't see one. Maybe enough heat and soaking with shaking?
I'm starting to literally hear my indicator while it is moving, making me think that with enough time without cleaning, friction might build from the oils that managed to slip in through the holes.
Am I exaggerating with my conclusion and will friction never be enough to impair the functioning of the VI?
Thanks!

 

[General Disaster]

I'd expect soaking it in iso, and occasionally removing it and manually pushing the indicator to it's limits of movement to allow the iso to work it's way into the areas where the spring may trap accumulated reclaim. Using something like a test tube to soak it in, also allows you to use a mug of boiled water to safely warm the tube which makes it better at dissolving the crud (but watch for pressure build up - release the stopper carefully if there is one). There are better solvents than iso, but nothing as relatively safe as iso, especially in terms of toxicity.

Personally, I never heat my 'pest in a vertical head-down fashion, only horizontally in the Wand (with it on it's side, which the updated Wand stand allows), or upright (head upwards) if torching.
This seems to have avoided any build-up of crap; daily use most days and in 10 months I've not cleaned the head and not needed to either.

(To be fair I'm somewhat fastidious, if not obsessional about how carefully I use the 'pest in terms of avoiding weed coming out of the bowl, and avoiding vapour build-up in the VI housing, etc etc. Others may prefer to be more sloppy and just clean more frequently instead).

 

[BushRanger]

Some cool music besides...

https://imgur.com/a/YTEh8N1

 

[gustavson]

Hello,

I’m looking for my first water bong or bubbler to use with the Tempest.

Do you have any recommendations?

 

[BushRanger]

Hello,

I’m looking for my first water bong or bubbler to use with the Tempest.

Do you have any recommendations?

I'd recommend something like this for water, small and simple:

10mm Female Water Piece

6 inch tall Water piece featuring a 10mm hand made female joint and a 2 hole perc.

highartisan.com

Maybe ask for 14mm if you prefer that.

Or you might as well go dry and save some hassles:

14mm Dry Donut Sidecar #2

Dry Donut J-hook/ sidecar style piece with a pre made 14mm joint at the end. Approximately 6 inch in length. This piece cans it upright on a flat surface.

highartisan.com

Can also pick colored glass if breakage won't hurt much

 

[General Disaster]

I'm not that experienced with bubblers et al, but can highly recommend RecVapS's Chugga-Jug v2.
Very solidly made, hard to knock over, works well with no water, or a large range of water (in quantity), and just generally really well thought out to be as flexible as possible (e.g. the mouthpiece will also take a 19mm whip (or 14mm option)). It sits very steadily on a flat surface but is also well shaped to easily hold in your hand. If the aesthetics appeal (and ordering from UK is not an issue) it's worth reading Matt's notes, as he was very involved in it's design and gives a lot of interesting details. Very much form following function but still looks good:

Chugga-Jug 2.0 Bubbler - 14mm/18mm

For the longest time we searched for a bubbler which was shaped to be comfortably held during use without it accidentally sliding out of our hands. Not only this but it needed to provide great vapor cooling and conditioning... all while having the ability to work with whips and mouthpieces. Then...

recommendedvapesupplies.co.uk

 

[cybrguy]

Hello,

I’m looking for my first water bong or bubbler to use with the Tempest.

Do you have any recommendations?

You'd probably be better off having a look over in one of the glass threads. There will be a lot more options there and descriptions of glass pieces that people like. Since I'm already posting here, I will give you my recommendation. I tend to like pieces that come apart for easy cleaning and this has been a great one to use with many of my vapes. https://www.dhgate.com/product/2015-new-34-5cm-height-glass-bong-with-matrix/255741536.html Personally, I don't have the ash catcher, just the standalone piece.

 

[gustavson]

Thx for the many answers. I will have a look where i can order One from EU.

:-)

 

[MegaChip]

I am interested in using my Tempest as a sipper mainly. I have zero tolerance so there is no need for huge/strong hits anyway.

Anyone got any recommendation for airflow (and maybe wand) settings for that goal?

In general, a comprehensive overview of what changes through the different settings would be great. The manual on the website lists the mechanical changes but doesn't really talk about how these relate to the changes in the vaping experience.

 

[kokolokokolokon]

I am interested in using my Tempest as a sipper mainly. I have zero tolerance so there is no need for huge/strong hits anyway.

Anyone got any recommendation for airflow (and maybe wand) settings for that goal?

In general, a comprehensive overview of what changes through the different settings would be great. The manual on the website lists the mechanical changes but doesn't really talk about how these relate to the changes in the vaping experience.

I would suggest you to heat it until the fisrt line of the VI or between the fisrt and the second one.
And about the airflow (of the head)…it depends on the kind of hit you want, more open or more close. You can start at middle point.
And, for sipping, i recommend a direct airflow on the stem, since you won’t need a lot of cooling

 

[MegaChip]

I would suggest you to heat it until the fisrt line of the VI or between the fisrt and the second one.
And about the airflow (of the head)…it depends on the kind of hit you want, more open or more close. You can start at middle point.

What about the SCU, Helix vs direct tube, open, hybrid or closed?

 

[AndyO]

I am interested in using my Tempest as a sipper mainly. I have zero tolerance so there is no need for huge/strong hits anyway.

Anyone got any recommendation for airflow (and maybe wand) settings for that goal?

In general, a comprehensive overview of what changes through the different settings would be great. The manual on the website lists the mechanical changes but doesn't really talk about how these relate to the changes in the vaping experience.

What balls are you using? That's going to have the biggest impact.

 

[MegaChip]

What balls are you using? That's going to have the biggest impact.

The stock one and I would prefer to keep it that way. I want to be able to switch between sipper mode and other modes of actions more or less quickly and changing out the balls takes some time sadly .
That's why I am interested in the settings

Though it would be interesting to hear about the differences. I think the tempest needs a wiki with all that options!

 

[AndyO]

The stock one and I would prefer to keep it that way. I want to be able to switch between sipper mode and other modes of actions more or less quickly and changing out the balls takes some time sadly .
That's why I am interested in the settings

Though it would be interesting to hear about the differences. I think the tempest needs a wiki with all that options!

You will find differing opinions on this - in my opinion and my experience of the Tempest over a few months, what you're wanting to achieve can't be done. I don't think the stock zircs create for a good sipper or a good ripper. IMO it's been the worst of the ball options, a kind of rubbish halfway house that does everything "ok", but doesn't do anything "great."

Once I put the stainless balls in it, started using the Wand, and used it as a sipper, it found its niche in my collection. I found that it can kind of perform as a ripper with boro - better than with the zircs - but it's still so inferior to the Tornado or Anvil that regard that I don't bother.

Again though, mine is only one of hundreds of opinions here.

 

[MegaChip]

You will find differing opinions on this - in my opinion and my experience of the Tempest over a few months, what you're wanting to achieve can't be done. I don't think the stock zircs create for a good sipper or a good ripper. IMO it's been the worst of the ball options, a kind of rubbish halfway house that does everything "ok", but doesn't do anything "great."

Once I put the stainless balls in it, started using the Wand, and used it as a sipper, it found its niche in my collection. I found that it can kind of perform as a ripper with boro - better than with the zircs - but it's still so inferior to the Tornado or Anvil that regard that I don't bother.

Again though, mine is only one of hundreds of opinions here.

Thanks for your insight. May I ask what your wand and tempest settings are with the SS balls?

 

[Minsc_NBoo]

I don't think the stock zircs create for a good sipper or a good ripper. IMO it's been the worst of the ball options, a kind of rubbish halfway house that does everything "ok", but doesn't do anything "great."

I found zirc are pretty good for mouth to lung. They retain heat for a long time, so I could easily get 10 decent puffs before I need to reheat

You can definitely get some decent rips, but they do take a little longer to start producing vapour. When using a bong it took about 5 seconds to start producing vapour, but then it started to produce some milky clouds. It is tempting to start pulling harder, but if you are patient clouds will come!

I will say I prefer Sic balls. They start to produce clouds more quickly. It's not quite as good for mouth to lung as the temperature drops off more quickly, but it's still very effective

 

[BushRanger]

Beware!

LaCentraleVapeur, sending out 11mm glass sleeves, while citing in product description its 12mm.
Dumping old stock with a nice price margain...

 

[BushRanger]

Realized I actually prefer the more slim and elegant look of 11mm...still this is not how things work

 

[Greenleaf88]

How is the experience when the tip is attached to a 3 party stem and mouth piece, hitting it natively ? Honest question wanna order the tip and attach it with a simrell stem and mouthpiece.

 

[prayerplant]

How is the experience when the tip is attached to a 3 party stem and mouth piece, hitting it natively ? Honest question wanna order the tip and attach it with a simrell stem and mouthpiece.

Hi, I've got a Simrell mvs stem which the Tempest works fine on although the vapour is hotter than on the Tempest stem. Perfectly manageable though

 

[kegstandman420]

How is the experience when the tip is attached to a 3 party stem and mouth piece, hitting it natively ? Honest question wanna order the tip and attach it with a simrell stem and mouthpiece.

https://imgur.com/a/OaaA71X

I've used my tempest head on a simrell blackwood vortex grab bag. This stem provides more airflow than the tempest stem. The vapor is definitely hotter on the simrell which is the trade off. The 1 thing I don't like is the built-in condenser on the vortex. It's hard to clean between the outside of the condenser and the steel liner. I use my ta3 on a simrell grab bag wpa with a brass stinger mp and that's my 2nd favorite 3rd party set up. Tempest stem has still been passing the reach test for me.