The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

General Disaster

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Personally I say if it ain't broke, don't try to fix it! 😊
Just soaking the top of the head in some iso, with an occasional few taps, and moving the indicator to make sure the iso get's everywhere, I would imagine it'll remove 95% of any reclaim in there, and in the end, if it works, then that's the bottom line?

But maybe @Brenyo can say more if I'm wrong?
 

NinneDDu

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My indicator is working perfectly as far as I can tell, but I cannot unscrew the top screw... I'm scared of using too much force, but already used what I believe should be enough to unscrew the tiny screw...
Could it be stuck somehow? Would heating/cooling the head make it easier? Trying at normal room temp and it feels stuck and unscrewable.

Any advice? I don't really have to dissassemble it, only want to see if it needs cleaning, theoretically the vapour can get in so wanted to check...
Should I just drop it and continue using it ? :D
I have the same problem…I discovered it last night while I was cleaning it, I also wanted to open the indicators because I have never done it but I couldn't
 
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I have the same problem…I discovered it last night while I was cleaning it, I also wanted to open the indicators because I have never done it but I couldn't
Lemme know if you manage with more force or something :D
 
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Just a thought but have you tried applying a small amount of heat to the outer edge of the VI housing to try and expand the screw's threaded 'hole' and free the screw a little? I guess you'd need a small jet flame or some similar way to apply it with precision, but that may help?
 
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Wylie

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I dropped my hot Tempest and it landed in my oversized hoody which melted onto the visual indicator housing and head. Nightmare!
What would be the best way to try and clean it all off? Any advice gratefully received.
 
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cybrguy

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I dropped my hot Tempest and it landed in my oversized hoody which melted onto the visual indicator housing and head. Nightmare!
What would become best way to try and clean it all off? Any advice gratefully received.
I'm sure it is possible to clean all the parts, especially with a torch or powerful torch lighter. I have had to burn off carpet fiber from my zirconium balls when I have accidentally spilled them on the carpet while cleaning them with a torch. A little stinky but it went okay. In your case, all of the parts that have gunk on them are metal and should be able to withstand whatever heat you use to burn them clean.
The easiest alternative, however, is to buy a new head from MadHeaters. That, of course, is just if you don't want to bother with the cleanup.
 

Wylie

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I'm sure it is possible to clean all the parts, especially with a torch or powerful torch lighter.
I guess I will need to remove the click discs and indicator spring before torching? I will give it a go and see what happens. Thanks for the tips, appreciated.
 
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cybrguy

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If the plastic material from your hoodie didn't actually liquefy from the heat it may not have gotten inside the visual indicator and you may not have to fully disassemble the VI to clean it, but if you are comfortable doing so you can be more confident you got it all with a disassembly.

Added: Definately take @Brenyo 's suggestion over mine. He's the man...
 
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Sorry but can't remember what setting I used when last doing concentrate on vaping-rayon, other than to say I found it works best at a higher temp than just flower. It doesn't have the same surface area effect that ground flower has, making it harder to fully vaporise out of the rayon/cotton (not tried hemp). Or if at same temp it'll take longer to finish a bowl than with flower.

With the rayon I used (nicotine vape wicking rayon) it has a higher combustion temperature than flower, allowing a higher temp to be used without combusting. I have no idea about using hemp cloth instead, but it would seem reasonable to assume it'd combust at a similar temperature as ground flower would. Maybe the density would mediate this though - if it's harder to draw through when inhaling, it shouldn't get quite so hot? But not having tried hemp cloth I couldn't say really.
 

BushRanger

Hit It & Quit It
Well I tried 570f till timeout and liked the results, with very small waste it seemed. Could try higher temps, just don't wanna combust, so said I'll ask :)
Do believe it will be better low and slow than 740f or higher till blinking stops on Wand?
Might as well just test :D

edit: think I should try SiC balls...
 
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Minsc_NBoo

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edit: think I should try SiC balls...

I switched to Sic balls about a month ago, and I'm really liking them. They heat up faster than the zirc ones and are a little more punchy, which is great for native DTL or bong use

They do cool more quickly though, so zirc is better for a longer MTL session

I briefly tried Boro glass..... Too toasty for me 🥵
 

General Disaster

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Well I tried 570f till timeout and liked the results, with very small waste it seemed. Could try higher temps, just don't wanna combust, so said I'll ask :)
Do believe it will be better low and slow than 740f or higher till blinking stops on Wand?
Might as well just test :D

edit: think I should try SiC balls...

I'm running two 'pests, one with sic and one with the original Zirc. I set my Wand @ 590℉ and run both 'pests to complete timeout.
I'm extremely insensitive to taste and odour not to mention other, um, oddities in internal perceptions, so what works for me may not for others (or visa versa) in terms of the experience, but basically (as I interpret it) the SiC stores more calories but both pests are running the line on combusting, and take careful breath control to avoid fully combusting (It may be better @ ~580℉?) . I usually fill the bowl full and pack fairly lightly to get good airflow, which also runs higher temperatures (so breath control more important).

But although these settings are running just a little high for ground dry flower, it's much nearer the correct mark when I use vape-cotton (the wicking rayon) with some concentrate, and usually clears most of the bowl although a reheat is often best to 'wring it's neck' so to speak!

I prefer to run lower and slower, so to speak. If it heats up too fast, then even after the timeout (or up to the end of flashing period) that heat is still shifting around to reach an equilibrium of sorts, which may suit some people, but makes a repeatable experience harder to achieve if it's changing as you use it (above and beyond the changes from drawing the heat out of it when drawing on it).

Never tried hemp as a base other than putting concentrate on a bed of ground flower, which in the end I found less satisfactory than either on it's own. I'd guess it's more sensitive to combustion than vape-cotton, but probably the density may well effect that as with dry flower - the higher the airflow, the hotter it can get if drawing too fast or for too long.
 
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