Sorry if I'm being a pain in the ass to everyone while I get used to the Tempest!
It's my first externally heated vape so I'm just getting used to it, could someone help me troubleshoot to see what is I'm doing wrong.
As it is I'm getting basically no vapor so I'm trying to understand what's going wrong.
I've been following people instructions but i can't seem to nail it down.
- So I'm loading a bowl, filling it up that it's nice and full but I'm not patting it down in anyway. It's full but not wedged with bud.
- Once it's loaded I'm holding it upright, with the mouthpiece at the bottom and cap at the top. I use a flame torch and have tried lower and slower power and I've tried it a bit higher powered.
- I heat it up with the flame about 1CM away from the device as instructed. I let it get to the 3rd dot on the visual indicator. This usually takes probably 40 seconds or a minute maybe perhaps.
- I inhale, no noticeable vapor. I've tried it after waiting a few seconds to let the balls heat up as suggested on here. I've tried slowly sipping it to heat it up but still no noticeable vapor other than occasionally. The only thing that seems to provide strong vapor is if I hold my finger over the adjustable air hole as I inhale, but it gets dangerously close to combustion and I'm not sure if that's how the vape is supposed to be used.
- When I empty the bowl to clean the device, the weed is cooked a bit but still has more life in it.
Can anyone notice what I might be doing wrong? Could the quality of the flame torch I'm using may not be good enough? This is the torch I use below.
Is there any steps I'm missing?
When the weed is loaded should it be closer to the balls in the cap or still closer to the bowl part?
I certainly don't seem to be doing anything too different than this video here:
The only thing I could think of is the quality of my torch isn't good enough?
If i had to guess, and remembering I'm not one hell of a lot more experienced than yourself, I'd start looking at how you've set up the stem. Maybe I was just a bit dumb, but couldn't find all the details on that, until I checked out the MH manual for the Revolve G2 on their site.
If it's not set up right, or you're not closing the carb hole (depending on how stem is setup), or you don't have the heater vents open enough and aren't drawing enough of the hot air through the bowl, this could be preventing your getting a proper pull.
Unless you indicator is not calibrated correctly, it sounds like you're putting the required heat into your balls (fnarr fnaar!
), and 40 to 60 seconds sounds in the right ball park (power of torch and distance depending).
Something I didn't understand fully was the 1cm thing, and my guess is it's meant to be 1cm from the inner brighter blue cone of the flame, not the actual tip (which is hard to see anyway), but again, i don't think that's your problem.
Sounds much more like airflow.
Other factors I've found are things like if you set it up for maximum cooling and close the carb too, a massive amount of heat is draw out the head and into the stem. I find the stem after one big hottish draw, can be almost too hot to touch nearer the bowl end, showing the vapour is coming through and depositing it's heat on it's way. Are you noticing this at all or does the stem stay pretty cool? That could also show you have the required heat but that hot air isn't getting through the weed in the bowl. Be careful of over filling/packing (I know you say it wasn't). I've found using the bowls capacity works less well than quite loosely packed allowing the air through easily - this gives a bigger hit in one or two draws, leaving much less in there. More packed and it takes maybe four or five draws, and the first couple aren't especially large.
Hello ,
I just Pop My Tempest in my wand at 320 Celsius Till it times out than i get big Clouds the Indicator is Right After the 2nd indicator (just a Little Bit)
Interesting, I go to 590 (nearly the same, except wanky old
brits gits use Fahrenheit just to be awkward!) but my wand only takes about 30/35 secs from cold (~18℃) to push the the VI up to almost exactly on the third line (third strike and I'm out?
), and it rips nicely, but not the most, and then a ~10 second heat up after that and it's pumping so much vapour I keep thinking I've combusted! (I have such poor olfactory sense I can't always taste or smell when I get a combust!).
I use the Wand on it's side with the MD stand on back to front (stops it rolling to the side, the other side rests against anything that stops it rolling backwards (to the left) and the recharge socket faces me, coil furthest away) then balance the pest horizontally with heater end in the hole (coil) of the Wand, and the pests mouthpiece resting on the upside down funnel comes with the reload, but anything to prop it on that's about an inch high or less works. The pest isn't upside down but perfectly horizontal (to within a few degrees), the weed in the loose packed bowl stays in place, the head sits perfectly against the glass backstop within the coil so has constant positioning unless I change the glass adapter position.
So far this seems to be giving fairly repeatable bowls. Obviously still many other variables which is why I try to lock down those I can (temp, head position in heater, etc etc). So far I'm learning about how heat gets into the bowl (like finding that 10 second reheat that gets so much more out of an already medium toasted avb).
P.S. I look for the higher temp hits, FYI. Can't taste the flavours much and like the sedative effect later in the day than the buzz for the mornings that lets me work (sort of! My boss may argue that point, if he knew!
).
Oh yeah - caveat to reheating, the only real combust I've done on the pest yet, was third time using the wand, and experimenting -did a normal heat up plus two tokes, then put back in for a reheat, and tried waiting for the cut-off for the wand temp. This does not work! Not. One. Bit!!
However the wand detects temp, it doesn't work in the same way when already pretty hot as when heated from rtp. I found giving it about 5 secs then removing to check the VI, then another until VI is set, is far more effective and accurate - ping! No more combusts!
Also giving it maybe 10/20 seconds for the heat to distribute more evenly in the head, before pulling on it, seems to help too.
