The Tempest by Mad Heaters & Phatpiggie

delta hotel

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Order P977x Shipping out today to CA as of today. Shipping was surprisingly free! I even asked for the $100+ shipping quite a few times. Brenyo apparently thought eff that. Lol. I say, If it's free, it's for me 😉
Super happy to get the emails confirming the package should be on its way home. Hopefully MH will start shipping out all USA orders here asap.
🤞
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The Mrs and I are mad excited! @Brenyo


I've got 978#, so I'm hoping for good news soon!
 

Caliban

Member
Hello everyone,

I was lucky enough to get my Tempest 2 on Saturday and have been really enjoying it so far. I've had a range of different devices over the years, from Dynavaps to a Jaxel’s-art vapbong, but the Tempest 2 is the first that’s made me want to stop smoking. It feels like I’ve finally found my holy grail after a long and expensive journey.

The new head is such an improvement over the Tempest 1. Straight out of the box (or tube), I've been able to get consistent, well-extracted hits first time, every time. The flavour is on par with the T1, and the vapour production is on a whole other plane. If anything, it's too good. I haven’t been able to experiment with it as much as I'd like because it's absolutely blasting me!

I'm not proud to say I've smoked for a long time and have a high tolerance. This has resulted in "issues" with other devices in the past. Either they take too long to get me where a joint would, are a faff to use, or just don't get me stoned the same way no matter how much I use them. Over the years, I’ve had various forays into trying to ditch the joints, but I always kept going back.

The T2 feels different, and I can't quite put into words why. It just leaves me feeling thoroughly cained every time, and it's so easy to use. I don't think it's the placebo effect, because it’s been the same every evening since Saturday.

On Saturday afternoon, once I'd given the T2 a good clean and finished all the exciting housework. I made the dreadful mistake of having two of the "full-sized" bowls in quick succession. This resulted in me needing to lie down for about 30 minutes...

Before the T2, I could happily smoke many (dread to think how many) decently sized joints throughout the course of a Saturday and still be functional. So the fact that the T2 turned me into a sweaty mess after two 0.2g bowls is a testament to its ferocity and a mistake I won't make again 😂.

I cannot recommend the Tempest 2 enough or find the words to describe the many ways it just works. Brenyo is a true artisan and I can't wait to see what he comes up with next.

I do have a couple of questions -
1, I'm currently just using a 3 flame jet lighter, does a Wand or IH for the Tempest 1 or 2 make a big difference?
I feel like I'm able to get such consistently good results at the moment, I'm questioning if it would even be worth investing in an IH? Might be worth noting that I have an YLL IH I use for my Dynavaps so am aware of the consistency and convenience they offer. I just don't feel like I need it with the T2?

2, Are any of you finding the T2 is smellier than the T1? Seems like a question I know...
I've never smoked in the house, but I do vape. None of the other vapes I own have caused issues with smells like the T2 has. It absolutely reeks! I'm using the T2 natively or through a ceramic piece (the best IMO) and both result in a room that reeks of skunk for ages! I'm definitely not combusting and I'm not even using it much because I don't want to end up a quivering wreck again!
As a result I've been banished to the shed by Mrs Caliban. And she happily put up with the T1 and Jaxel's vapbong being used in the house before.

3, Am I being a bit dense, or is it not possible to adjust the air intakes located just under the visual indicator like you could on the T1? Any clarification would be welcome.

Sorry about the long first post!
TL:DR - The Tempest 2 melted my face, made my house smell and I loved it.
 

Falconflys

Well-Known Member
Order P977x Shipping out today to CA as of today. Shipping was surprisingly free! I even asked for the $100+ shipping quite a few times. Brenyo apparently thought eff that. Lol. I say, If it's free, it's for me 😉
Super happy to get the emails confirming the package should be on its way home. Hopefully MH will start shipping out all USA orders here asap.
🤞
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The Mrs and I are mad excited! @Brenyo


Refreshing Email like crazy now!!
 

Wylie

Too weird to live, too rare to die.
My Tempest 2 was delivered today, looks and feels nice. It feels like an upgrade from my Tempest 1. I like it.
I have had a couple of bowls and am impressed with the whole experience. I enjoyed plenty of flavourful tokes, bowl fully extracted leaving an even dark golden abv, left me wasted and happy. I love it.
 

General Disaster

Stationary momentum!
3, Am I being a bit dense, or is it not possible to adjust the air intakes located just under the visual indicator like you could on the T1? Any clarification would be welcome.
Yeah, same here, I read someone else posting about this. Just loosen the screw at the top a little and that allows the sleeve to move, put it where you want and gently tighten the screw up again - sorted!
 

MegaChip

Active Member
My Tempest 2 was delivered today, looks and feels nice. It feels like an upgrade from my Tempest 1. I like it.
I have had a couple of bowls and am impressed with the whole experience. I enjoyed plenty of flavourful tokes, bowl fully extracted leaving an even dark golden abv, left me wasted and happy. I love it.
Can you go more in depth on the differences?
 
MegaChip,

scotcan

New Member
I’ve just realised that the two scored bits by the screw thread in the mouthpiece side are at exactly the half and full bowl points when inserted in the bowl to position your screen. That’s a nice touch. Still interested what the small slotted 3d printed disc is for though and the tiny dot on the body near the head
 

VapinBassist

New Member
Order P977x Shipping out today to CA as of today. Shipping was surprisingly free! I even asked for the $100+ shipping quite a few times. Brenyo apparently thought eff that. Lol. I say, If it's free, it's for me 😉
Super happy to get the emails confirming the package should be on its way home. Hopefully MH will start shipping out all USA orders here asap.
🤞
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The Mrs and I are mad excited! @Brenyo


Oh shoot!! I was braced for having to cancel the order. I'm quite a few orders past yours, but now there's hope, maybe?
 

wedge

Well-Known Member
I’ve just realised that the two scored bits by the screw thread in the mouthpiece side are at exactly the half and full bowl points when inserted in the bowl to position your screen. That’s a nice touch. Still interested what the small slotted 3d printed disc is for though and the tiny dot on the body near the head

I'm guessing the tiny dot helps you line up the hole on the stem to the hole on the heat shield when you put it back together.
 

Feyd2blak

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I’ve just realised that the two scored bits by the screw thread in the mouthpiece side are at exactly the half and full bowl points when inserted in the bowl to position your screen. That’s a nice touch. Still interested what the small slotted 3d printed disc is for though and the tiny dot on the body near the head
The tiny dot lines up with the carb hole. Curious about this little disc, someone else mentioned it but I don't seem to have one. Unless it's the new wand insert/stand? Edit is it the screw part of the new wand adapter, maybe a spare?
Whether it's deliberate or not I don't know, but this was a minor bugbear on my beta-tempest1 where the sleeve was rather loose and I have to be careful to check it's correctly set as it can move so easily. As I tend to stick to fully open anyway, I'm grateful for the ability to lock in place.
So is everyones V2 the same, the induction sleeve can't be moved without loosening the screw? I did like the ability to change it on the fly experimenting but one was so loose it could move if you weren't careful, preferring being able to lock it tbh.
Itching to see the full manual!
 
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ahm123

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The tiny dot lines up with the carb hole. Curious about this little disc, someone else mentioned it but I don't seem to have one. Unless it's the new wand insert/stand? Edit is it the screw part of the new wand adapter, maybe a spare?

So is everyones V2 the same, the induction sleeve can't be moved without loosening the screw? I did like the ability to change it on the fly experimenting but one was so loose it could move if you weren't careful, preferring being able to lock it tbh.
Itching to see the full manual!
i would imagine maybe just don’t tighten the screw so much so you have the option? i personally can’t wait for that feature because my v1 free spins from use over time even after fully tightening the screw. the cleaning process bumps it out of place if i’m not careful and will sometimes forget to realign before use :razz:
 
ahm123,

Brenyo

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Manufacturer
So is everyones V2 the same, the induction sleeve can't be moved without loosening the screw? I did like the ability to change it on the fly experimenting but one was so loose it could move if you weren't careful, preferring being able to lock it tbh.
The new induction sleeve is much thicker, so it can’t be pressed into an oval shape (like how the DV caps work) to be adjustable without loosening the screw.
On the V1, after a long while, it can loosen, but you just need to take it off and press it together a little to make it more oval, and it will be tight again.
 

RedZep

Well-Known Member
Alright here are my early thoughts after 5 days heavy use. The V1 Tempest has been my most used portable since beta release. I'll reference it a couple of times if relevant. I'll break it down into segments to make sure I cover everything that has had an impression on me so far.

Aesthetics/Ergonomics/Quality of Life

Some people love the look. I've seen many prefer the V1 looks however. I like it. It also looks much better in person. I honestly think the main reason some people don't like it is the in built WPA. I like the WPA MP function, but I would be interested in alternative MP's to change the Aesthetics. The device has an overall highly functional, futuristic, flowing look to it. I'm particularly fond of the cog like section where the tip plugs into.

The balanced weight and hand feel are top notch. It feels very premium in hand. It gives the illusory impression somehow of a single piece solid unit, as nothing moves when locked, and the balance and design hide the seams where components are connected to each other. To the eye and hands it seems carved from a single piece. The thicker section connecting the tip to the stem is testament to this effect.

It has many nice little touches. The way the MP and Tip are raised off the table when placed on its side, the way you can feel the carb without looking, the way you can lock your airflow settings with the MP, the way it doesn't roll away on flat surfaces, the small dot on the cog like part near the tip which allows for quick orientation when changing airflow settings. This is a device that has had every minute detail obsessed over by an absolute perfectionist.

The heat shield does an excellent job of staying cool to the touch, owing to minimal contact points (have a good look if you get one, really impressive design here).

The reloading/emptying experience is no different to the V1. Suffice to say that when used with the Reload, it is effortless and fast.

Airflow
The open airflow of the V1 was a big deal for me. I suffer from TMJD, a chronic pain condition that renders me incredibly sensitive to airflow restriction. The T1 had the most open and custimisable airflow in the portable butane space. The T2 improves it. The cooling system has been simplified and is a twisted tape system, seen in Simrell stems and others. What is key is the T2 twisted Ti tape and housing is much larger than what we have seen before. The airpath now is a straight line, unlike the V1 Helix which doubled back on itself. The larger tip now also allows the use of larger balls (3mm, standard with T2 purchase) without sacrificing number of balls. All these changes add up to the device airflow being wide open if you want it to be.

The airflow setting in the tip remains unchanged from the V1. The airflow settings in the stem however are much more elegant and intuitive. I didn't need a manual to understand my cooling settings. I just needed to look and see how much visible space I have open at the carb. Someone who has never used the device before would be able to increase or decrease airflow by appearance intuitively. Compare this to the V1 where even myself after multiple years of everyday use would have to occasionally check the online manual when I forgot which symbols represented which airflow settings.

I really appreciate how even when using the stem as a WPA, you don't have to add lots of restriction to your glass piece. I intend to use the T2 stem as a general use WPA for other vapes on small glass pieces, like the Tornado and Convector XL, due to the extra cooling with no trade off.

When using the stem in WPA mode I suggest closing off the stem airflow completely, and closing the airflow at the tip from 1/2 to 3/4. It will still be relatively unrestricted, but will thicken the vapour nicely. I also advise those skeptical to the in-built WPA to try it. I didn't think I would like it, but it converted me very quickly.

Cooling
Despite the streamlined cooling system, the T2 cools nicely accross all bowl sizes. When in second bowl position (0.15g) the cooling is enough for me to finish the bowl in a single DTL hit, which hits like a desktop ball vape. I suggest everyone try this.

When in full bowl mode I find it more suitable to multiple hits. This feels comfortable. You feel a little heat in the throat, but nothing irritating. Just enough to feel the vapour. I have not coughed yet using the T2. I find the heat levels in full bowl joint mode to be ideal. Enough heat to feel like you are toking on something. Enough cooling to not cough or feel like you need a drink.

Taste
Not a lot to say here. The T1 had amazing taste, and best in class imo for vapes of this type. Something I always liked was how taste was still good when going for deeper roasts, almost like the heat built up in the bowl gives enough time for the terps to release before destruction via higher temps. As far as I can tell the T2 feels the same in this regard. The flavour feels improved over the T1 Helix stem due to more elegance in the cooling path. However it is not night and day. Both taste great and there is not much in it.

The V2 has higher potential for pure flavour chasing hits however due to the larger bowl. Bigger bowl = more terps. I've done some full bowl low temp DTL (direct to lung) hits and it was very enjoyable.

When it comes to portable butane devices in this genre, the Tempests are the kings of flavour.

Extraction
This tip/cap improves on the original. The roast is more complete, and easier to achive. I was someone who got on very well with the T1 owing to my experience with pure convection vapes. However some people had inconsistent extractions. I feel that the T2 will differ in this regard. It feels effortless to get a perfect, complete, consistant roast.

The T2 boasts an increased extraction window over the T1 which was already really impressive. You never feel rushed with this thing. You can be quite leisurely even in full bowl setting. This makes the T2 very fun to use with hash and extracts, giving an extended joint experience. I'll be releasing some videos showing this in the coming days.

Potency/Signature
I'll keep this short as it's perhaps the most subjective section with many personnal variables like tolerence and strain quality. However I believe there is improved potency compared to the V1 gram per gram. I also dare anyone to hit the full bowl in one DTL hit and not feel it hit you hard.

The Signature is still a really pure convection style signature. Imo the perfect signature to use most of the day.

Heat up/Efficiency
The V2 has increased efficiency due to improved heater/cap housing with increased induction reactivity. Im getting faster heat ups than V1 in the wand, despite increased heat capacity. This means the user can choose to heat a larger bowl, in less time. In general terms a 30ish second wand heat up, to fully extract up to 0.22g bowl with a long heat cycle window, is impressive stuff, and will leave some wandering why they bother leaving their desktop ball vape plugged in all day.

The new wand adaptor contributes to this improved efficiency, owing to not putting extra glass around the tip that soaks up heat. The downside is the adaptor adds more mass to the wand when using outdoors. Some will choose to forego it when travelling, or use the V1 adaptor, or no adaptor. But when using the new adaptor indoors it works perfectly, and is easy to remove for wand use with other vapes. The inability to quickly swap out the adaptor in the V1 was a common complaint.

Closing Thoughts
I was very excited about the Tempest 2. I had high expectations. The T2 delivered on them and then some. Improving not just in ways I hoped, but in ways I didn't even imagine. It is more elegant in function and settings than the V1 while sacrificing nothing in performance. A Swiss army knife of bowl sizes, airflow settings, and WPA sizes, while sacrificing nothing in intuitiveness. Anyone who has used a butane vape in this genre before will not need a user guide.

The Tempest 2 is a labour of love. The flawless second album that perfects everything established in the debut. I can't even imagine how many hours Brenyo has obsessed over this design. Delivering a vape like this, at that price point is frankly absurd. I would recomend this vape to anyone.

All I ask now is for some modular wood heat shields that minimise contact like the metal ones. And if possible a MP to swap out the WPA, to improve aesthetics when using outdoors. Other than that I can't offer any improvements.

Thanks Brenyo. And Bravo 👏
 
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Feyd2blak

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The new induction sleeve is much thicker, so it can’t be pressed into an oval shape (like how the DV caps work) to be adjustable without loosening the screw.
On the V1, after a long while, it can loosen, but you just need to take it off and press it together a little to make it more oval, and it will be tight again.
Excellent thanks for confirming @Brenyo, really enjoying the V2, you were right the look does grow on you. any idea when the manual will be up? my Visual indicator is definitely stuck, won't go past the first notch. Will disassemble and see if can fix it but waiting on the new manual before giving that a go
 
Order P977x Shipping out today to CA as of today. Shipping was surprisingly free! I even asked for the $100+ shipping quite a few times. Brenyo apparently thought eff that. Lol. I say, If it's free, it's for me 😉
Super happy to get the emails confirming the package should be on its way home. Hopefully MH will start shipping out all USA orders here asap.
🤞
Thank you from the bottom of my heart. The Mrs and I are mad excited! @Brenyo



Oh man this gives me so much hope. I didn't want to bring it up again and ruin the conversion lol. I've been checking this thread, refreshing my email, and just scouring the internet in general looking for tariff updates to try and get information. Any idea if he shipped it USPS? That's the best bet right now. Seems like they're not even charging tariffs because they don't have the capability to but the other carriers are charging 145% and sending bills after the packages are delivered
 
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Feyd2blak

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Closing Thoughts
I was very excited about the Tempest 2. I had high expectations. The T2 delivered on them and then some. Improving not just in ways I hoped, but in ways I didn't even imagine. It is more elegant in function and settings than the V1 while sacrificing nothing in performance. A Swiss army knife of bowl sizes, airflow settings, and WPA sizes, while sacrificing nothing in intuitiveness. Anyone who has used a butane vape in this genre before will not need a user guide.

The Tempest 2 is a labour of love. The flawless second album that perfects everything established in the debut. I can't even imagine how many hours Brenyo has obsessed over this design. Delivering a vape like this, at that price point is frankly absurd. I would recomend this vape to anyone.

All I ask now is for some modular wood heat shields that minimise contact like the metal ones. And if possible a MP to swap out the WPA, to improve aesthetics when using outdoors. Other than that I can't offer any improvements.

Thanks Brenyo. And Bravo 👏
Great review, love those closing thoughts :clap: wildly excited to see what mad heaters and other stem makers can do with wooden heat shields for the T2
 

Brenyo

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Manufacturer
my Visual indicator is definitely stuck, won't go past the first notch. Will disassemble and see if can fix it but waiting on the new manual before giving that a go
Sorry about that, I’m fairly sure that it’s just that the outer end of the spring is below its groove; you should be able to just pull it up into its groove, and that should fix it.

Seems like they're not even charging tariffs because they don't have the capability
There are a few parcels on the way with the possible $100 tariff through USPS to test what happens. If that’s true, then I’ll start shipping them as soon as the rest of the stock arrives.
 

Feyd2blak

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Sorry about that, I’m fairly sure that it’s just that the outer end of the spring is below its groove; you should be able to just pull it up into its groove, and that should fix it.
No worries, so where the spring connects with the cap? Noticed you got rid of the hole from the v1, will have a look and give it a go, cheers
 
Feyd2blak,

Brenyo

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Manufacturer
No worries, so where the spring connects with the cap? Noticed you got rid of the hole from the v1, will have a look and give it a go, cheers
Yes, just remove the indicator housing and you should be able to see where the outer end with the bend should be slotted into, similarly to v1. It might have been pushed too far down
 

add1noob

Well-Known Member
There are a few parcels on the way with the possible $100 tariff through USPS to test what happens. If that’s true, then I’ll start shipping them as soon as the rest of the stock arrives.
How do I volunteer to test that out haha also I was going to ask if the tariffs go through could I combine my order with a friend and still just pay $100?
 

RedZep

Well-Known Member
Hello everyone,

I was lucky enough to get my Tempest 2 on Saturday and have been really enjoying it so far. I've had a range of different devices over the years, from Dynavaps to a Jaxel’s-art vapbong, but the Tempest 2 is the first that’s made me want to stop smoking. It feels like I’ve finally found my holy grail after a long and expensive journey.

The new head is such an improvement over the Tempest 1. Straight out of the box (or tube), I've been able to get consistent, well-extracted hits first time, every time. The flavour is on par with the T1, and the vapour production is on a whole other plane. If anything, it's too good. I haven’t been able to experiment with it as much as I'd like because it's absolutely blasting me!

I'm not proud to say I've smoked for a long time and have a high tolerance. This has resulted in "issues" with other devices in the past. Either they take too long to get me where a joint would, are a faff to use, or just don't get me stoned the same way no matter how much I use them. Over the years, I’ve had various forays into trying to ditch the joints, but I always kept going back.

The T2 feels different, and I can't quite put into words why. It just leaves me feeling thoroughly cained every time, and it's so easy to use. I don't think it's the placebo effect, because it’s been the same every evening since Saturday.

On Saturday afternoon, once I'd given the T2 a good clean and finished all the exciting housework. I made the dreadful mistake of having two of the "full-sized" bowls in quick succession. This resulted in me needing to lie down for about 30 minutes...

Before the T2, I could happily smoke many (dread to think how many) decently sized joints throughout the course of a Saturday and still be functional. So the fact that the T2 turned me into a sweaty mess after two 0.2g bowls is a testament to its ferocity and a mistake I won't make again 😂.

I cannot recommend the Tempest 2 enough or find the words to describe the many ways it just works. Brenyo is a true artisan and I can't wait to see what he comes up with next.

I do have a couple of questions -
1, I'm currently just using a 3 flame jet lighter, does a Wand or IH for the Tempest 1 or 2 make a big difference?
I feel like I'm able to get such consistently good results at the moment, I'm questioning if it would even be worth investing in an IH? Might be worth noting that I have an YLL IH I use for my Dynavaps so am aware of the consistency and convenience they offer. I just don't feel like I need it with the T2?

2, Are any of you finding the T2 is smellier than the T1? Seems like a question I know...
I've never smoked in the house, but I do vape. None of the other vapes I own have caused issues with smells like the T2 has. It absolutely reeks! I'm using the T2 natively or through a ceramic piece (the best IMO) and both result in a room that reeks of skunk for ages! I'm definitely not combusting and I'm not even using it much because I don't want to end up a quivering wreck again!
As a result I've been banished to the shed by Mrs Caliban. And she happily put up with the T1 and Jaxel's vapbong being used in the house before.

3, Am I being a bit dense, or is it not possible to adjust the air intakes located just under the visual indicator like you could on the T1? Any clarification would be welcome.

Sorry about the long first post!
TL:DR - The Tempest 2 melted my face, made my house smell and I loved it.
You absolutely should get a Wand. Tempest 1 & 2 work amazingly with it.
 
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