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Atomsk

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Can you weigh out the coils please?

Then take the whole Hercules apart. Including the mouth piece retainer nut.

I'm trying to figure how it vaporized 1 gram of oil without getting any vapor.

Please do, G, this stuff is too expensive for some of us to be wasting. I normally appropriate wax purchases by the paycheck, and I just burned through two weeks of wax without two weeks of effect.
 

kindbeats

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Can you weigh out the coils please?

Then take the whole Hercules apart. Including the mouth piece retainer nut.

I'm trying to figure how it vaporized 1 gram of oil without getting any vapor.

I just weighed all three of my coils. The two unused coils weighed 1.6g and the coil I've been using is 2.05g, so there is definitely some oil in the coil but it doesn't give off vapor. Can you post a pic showing what the coil looks like when properly seated around the heating rod?
 
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That would be ideal.

@kindbeats that means u have less than the .5g buffer amount in ur coil. May be underloaded.

Yes, but I put .6 in today. That's on top of the other .5 to 1g I previously tried to run through it. So essentially, I should be past the .5 buffer by now but I still haven't gotten any successful hits.
 
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Yes, but I put .6 in today. That's on top of the other .5 to 1g I previously tried to run through it. So essentially, I should be past the .5 buffer by now but I still haven't gotten any successful hits.

That is what in trying to say the oil just does not disappear. Take apart the whole Hercules including the mouth piece the oil is there some where.
 

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That is what in trying to say the oil just does not disappear. Take apart the whole Hercules including the mouth piece the oil is there some where.

I took apart and cleaned my Hercules before you asked me and I didn't find much oil. It was much less messier than the v1 Herc. I definitely didn't see anything close to the amount that I've put into this thing.

UPDATE: I just put another .1 or so in and nada. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but apparently a lot of others are doing the same thing. Even if I was to try and troubleshoot with G via skype, I can't afford to put more wax in. Oil isn't $25 a gram here, it's $60. As much as I want to get this thing up and running, I literally can't afford to troubleshoot the problem. I was under the impression that this cart could do everything from holding a gram to acting as a load as you go device. So far, I wish I could get my old Hercules back. Is there any chance of that being a possibility?
 
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I took apart and cleaned my Hercules before you asked me and I didn't find much oil. It was much less messier than the v1 Herc. I definitely didn't see anything close to the amount that I've put into this thing.

Ok can you please take apart the mouth piece and check in there.
 
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Ok can you please take apart the mouth piece and check in there.

I already did and iso'd the whole thing before we started speaking. There was some on the stainless steel top but that's about it.

Ok can you please take apart the mouth piece and check in there.

I know I already asked this, but can you please post a picture of what the coil should look like when properly seated around the heating rod? The only thing I can think of is that the coil isn't seated fully around the rod but I have nothing to compare it to.

Edit: Sorry for the back to back posts but I don't think G is seeing all of my updates/edits. Want to make sure he sees this.

mod note: Please avoid back-to-back posts, use Edit instead. Two posts merged.
 
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friedbanana8

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I just weighed all three of my coils. The two unused coils weighed 1.6g and the coil I've been using is 2.05g, so there is definitely some oil in the coil but it doesn't give off vapor. Can you post a pic showing what the coil looks like when properly seated around the heating rod?

i think you should weigh out all your parts, put in some more oil and try to run it. If no go then you should take it apart and weight out all your parts again and find out where your oil went, giving you a clue to what the problem might be?

I take out the coil or tanks to use hash or pollen pellets.

awesome bro, will do!
herbs still green guys. taken about 20 hits today. Im starting to be a little more daring with the button, but damn this thing goes on and on and on and...
cant wait for the core to have it on always
 
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Caligula

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Maybe it worked too well and he forgot? Heh.

Also where is good oil only $25/g? I'm paying 50-60. Usually 60. :(
 
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i think you should weigh out all your parts, put in some more oil and try to run it. If no go then you should take it apart and weight out all your parts again and find out where your oil went, giving you a clue to what the problem might be?

I wish I could afford to do that but I don't have enough oil right now. I don't use flower at all and rely on my concentrates. Unfortunately, oil is $60 where I am and I just don't have the option of hitting up the store for more. I need to make sure what I still have left lasts me until I can grab or make more. Hopefully someone else who has a bit more oil to burn (no pun intended...ah fuck it, yes it was) can figure this problem out as I know I'm not the only one having it.
 
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Maybe it worked too well and he forgot? Heh.

Also where is good oil only $25/g? I'm paying 50-60. Usually 60. :(

anaheim used to have some dope prices and some good oil. but now theres only delivery over there last i heard. this one place had 3g's for $60 of some pretty good puregold honeycomb wax
 

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Maybe it worked too well and he forgot? Heh.

Also where is good oil only $25/g? I'm paying 50-60. Usually 60. :(

I was just visiting my friend in Colorado and prices varied from $25 - $30 for waxes and shatters. Only things that cost more were nectars and Top Shelf Extracts shatter which cost $40.

A shop called Gaia sells Top Shelf Extracts shatter. The deal is buy 3 grams at $40 each and get a fourth gram for one penny. I live in the wrong fucking state. :bang:
 

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I wish I could afford to do that but I don't have enough oil right now. I don't use flower at all and rely on my concentrates. Unfortunately, oil is $60 where I am and I just don't have the option of hitting up the store for more. I need to make sure what I still have left lasts me until I can grab or make more. Hopefully someone else who has a bit more oil to burn (no pun intended...ah fuck it, yes it was) can figure this problem out as I know I'm not the only one having it.

well then you should have been a little more hesitant to wash out your herc before finding out where you're oil went, dont you think? i mean being as conservative as you claim to be, seems like something that should have triggered when you went to clean your herc.
 
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Yea it's all delivery here. Most oil wax or shatter is 55-60 a gram for top shelf. Plus I usually tip the driver. Blew threw almost 3g of co2 honey oil this weekend with my Hercules. Mostly not in a fun way.
 
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I was just visiting my friend in Colorado and prices varied from $25 - $30 for waxes and shatters. Only things that cost more were nectars and Top Shelf Extracts shatter which cost $40.


Do this for me, take the ptfe shell out and just run it with out that. Place the stainless top cap on the Hercules and then place the mouth piece on. Press the button and see what it does.
 

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well then you should have been a little more hesitant to wash out your herc before finding out where you're oil went, dont you think? i mean being as conservative as you claim to be, seems like something that should have triggered when you went to clean your herc.

No, I don't think I should have been more hesitant to wash out my Herc and yes, you could have worded that to sound a bit less condescending. The fact of the matter is that I opened up my Herc, looked at it and came to the conclusion that the walls had nowhere close to the amount of oil that I have run through the unit. I'm not exactly conservative with my oil but I sure as shit don't have .5 at a time to keep throwing in hoping the thing starts to function the way it is supposed to. Call me crazy, but I'm one of those people that doesn't want to have to troubleshoot a product multiple times. I don't have an interest in taking things apart and figuring out what's wrong with them. We pay a price named by a company so that they can worry about those things and we can enjoy the product hassle free.

Do this for me, take the ptfe shell out and just run it with out that. Place the stainless top cap on the Hercules and then place the mouth piece on. Press the button and see what it does.

Nothing really happens. I can get some small inconsistent puffs of vapor and the cart is hot enough to hear bubbling. There is also a good amount of oil in the stainless steel top now.
 
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Nothing really happens. I can get some small inconsistent puffs of vapor and the cart is hot enough to hear bubbling. There is also a good amount of oil in the stainless steel top now.

That happened to me as well while i was troubleshooting my leaking issue. I think it was either overfilled or overheated and the oil was getting splashed up into the SS hat and filter. That seemed to happen more than once, but typically after a fresh fill.

Only ever did get a few "good" (made me cough) rips.
 

kindbeats

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Good oil or wax is $90/gram and fewer places carry good wax.
Beach Cities of the OC.

Time to rebel!

Make it yourself and double purge.

Dude, I just checked out the prices of some shops in your area and there is tons of good wax and shatter for $40 and $50 a gram. Have you tried using weedmaps?

EDIT: Yikes! Besides the good prices that I mentioned, I just found this horror story on weedmaps. TopShelfMeds.com charges $140 for a gram of wax!? :o
 
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This is typically where I shop. I'm a big fan of the Organalabs Honey Oil syringes that they stock (if you find those, buy you some), as well as their house shatters/oils.

edit: looks like they are low on stock, they usually have a few different shatters and oils on the menu as well. In any case, those go for $55-60/g too.

https://weedmaps.com/dispensaries/california/south-bay-sd/communitygreen?c=search

The prices you see are pretty much uniform for my area. There is one place, though, selling barometric (?) extracted nectar for $80/g. I didn't really care for the taste of it when I tried it. Both times.
 
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friedbanana8

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No, I don't think I should have been more hesitant to wash out my Herc and yes, you could have worded that to sound a bit less condescending. The fact of the matter is that I opened up my Herc, looked at it and came to the conclusion that the walls had nowhere close to the amount of oil that I have run through the unit. I'm not exactly conservative with my oil but I sure as shit don't have .5 at a time to keep throwing in hoping the thing starts to function the way it is supposed to. Call me crazy, but I'm one of those people that doesn't want to have to troubleshoot a product multiple times. I don't have an interest in taking things apart and figuring out what's wrong with them. We pay a price named by a company so that they can worry about those things and we can enjoy the product hassle free.



Nothing really happens. I can get some small inconsistent puffs of vapor and the cart is hot enough to hear bubbling. There is also a good amount of oil in the stainless steel top now.

i was just pointing out this idea you've presented earlier and have now reuttered "im not exactly... it is supposed." pick a side mate. i hate these goddamn on the fencers. interesting that you bring the question of sanity into the discussion. Am i crazy for thinking that oil cant just disappear out of existence?
Maybe it worked too well and he forgot? Heh.

Also where is good oil only $25/g? I'm paying 50-60. Usually 60. :(
this must be the only other possible conclusion, really...

mod note: You're over the line with your "goddamn on the fencers". If you can't converse without name calling then you shouldn't post.
 
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I know I already asked this, but can you please post a picture of what the coil should look like when properly seated around the heating rod? The only thing I can think of is that the coil isn't seated fully around the rod but I have nothing to compare it to.

Edit: Sorry for the back to back posts but I don't think G is seeing all of my updates/edits. Want to make sure he sees this.

When I load it looks like this. Hope it helps.
http://imgur.com/wAsLe2b
 
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