Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

[ataxian]

thanks for the answer..

the persei ss runs max with 3.7v? if yes what carts would be bestf for 3.7v?

or do you use the persei only with 7.4v setup?

its a little tricky to see through the forest of possible batterie carts combination..

2 x 18350's = 5.0 carts
1 x 18650 = 2.4 carts
Start there.

I have ran the longer tube in the SS kit with 2 x 18350 and 5.0 cart with no problems.

Also a easy one if you have a SS kit is the SHORTY Tube with a single 3.7 or 3.0 battery.

 

[friedbanana8]

thanks for the answer..

the persei ss runs max with 3.7v? if yes what carts would be bestf for 3.7v?

or do you use the persei only with 7.4v setup?

its a little tricky to see through the forest of possible batterie carts combination..

so far ive only tried the 2.4ohm and the 5.0ohm. I also have the hercules, but thats a whole other ball game. with the 3.7v you could use a 1.5ohm cart which is supposedly second best to the 5.0ohm cart. you could use the 2.4ohm cart which i didnt feel were effective in the concentration of the hit. they say you could also use the 3.0ohm cart but that it'll give an even weaker hit than the 2.4ohm. the 2.4 ohm gives some decent clouds, i dunno to me they just werent getting me high.
the next time i order cartridges, my combo pack would most likely look like this:
1X1.5ohm
1X2.4ohm
3x5.0ohm

 

[friedbanana8]

friedbanna8 you being the water path guru have you vaped a 5.0 through water?

Nah never how is that like? im a fairly new convert to the vape life. I was head on combustion: blunts, joints, bongs and pipes until i heard about the trippy stick and i started looking at portable vaporizers. When i came across the persei and that with the hercules attachment i'd have the option of doing herbs or oils or both i decided to get it. And now here I am.

 

[OF]

finally i'm gonna purchase a persei! question about the cartridges. i saw it has 2 5ohm cartridges included. its a big diffenrence about the 5ohm 7.4V and the 2.4ohm 3.7V? i'm not so informed about the batteries..i thougt to buy a 5 pack of 2.4 ohm 3.7v cartridges and a persei ss black. do i need something more to run 2 perseis with the ss?

I'll keep it simple, start with 2.4s and stick with them until you master them. This is based on a LOT of experience from many owners over time.

By the numbers, 5s on 7.4 Volts are twice as powerful (numbers don't lie.....) and can definitely get out of control easier and when they do you burn oil if you're lucky. Otherwise it's a seal and the cart and .2 grams of what's in it are lost.

There's advice here from guys with modest experience, some it seems none at all? How sound is that? Repeats from 'something I read on the web'?

For like a year 2.4s were all there were and guys were happy. Demands for bigger clouds (screw the taste.....) brought us 1.5s. Then came Persei (before that you couldn't drive 5s even if they were made....which they weren't....).

Persei was built for power users demanding more than Omicron. That's why the dual head and high power carts with it. Experienced Omicron users demanding more than 1.5s are giving to support high tolerance.....not new guys.

Like I said, let's keep it simple. The advice for new guys is stick to 2.4s until you master them. Period.

Who disagrees with that.....and why?

OF

 

[hansdampf]

ok..i had the very first omicron when they did the sendyourvape-promotion. i dont know what carts that was. i used two of the carts, the first one had a little bit metall taste..the second was great.. alot of vapor but not so dense. after i dont knwo when the batterie did die, so i didnt use it anymore..

i will go first with one 2.4 till i can handle it..the worst scenario is loosing .2 if the 2.4 is two weak.

for the stealthfactor i thougt to go with the persei ss, for that i need 3.7v carts,right?

thanks alot for your answers, my english is little bit crappy..

 

[ataxian]

ok..i had the very first omicron when they did the sendyourvape-promotion. i dont know what carts that was. i used two of the carts, the first one had a little bit metall taste..the second was great.. alot of vapor but not so dense. after i dont knwo when the batterie did die, so i didnt use it anymore..

i will go first with one 2.4 till i can handle it..the worst scenario is loosing .2 if the 2.4 is two weak.

for the stealthfactor i thougt to go with the persei ss, for that i need 3.7v carts,right?

thanks alot for your answers, my english is little bit crappy..

I just vaped some LOUIS IV BRITTLE WAX very BLONDE in a 2.4 cart and it was smooth and powerful.
I really don't understand for medical reasons why you need more?
The 5.0's are crazy powerful and I think they are mainley recreational. (Nothing wrong with that)!
Just saying!

Here is a SHORTY 2.4
A SS Standard tube with 2 x 18350's 2 x 5.0 carts
even a standard PERSEI Tube with a 2.4 cart + 18650

Why the RED SS KIT?
I was planning on a RED PERSEI KIT.
Maybe a black SSL kit?

 

[friedbanana8]

ok..i had the very first omicron when they did the sendyourvape-promotion. i dont know what carts that was. i used two of the carts, the first one had a little bit metall taste..the second was great.. alot of vapor but not so dense. after i dont knwo when the batterie did die, so i didnt use it anymore..

i will go first with one 2.4 till i can handle it..the worst scenario is loosing .2 if the 2.4 is two weak.

for the stealthfactor i thougt to go with the persei ss, for that i need 3.7v carts,right?

thanks alot for your answers, my english is little bit crappy..

yes, for the ss kit you would need a 3.7v, although ataxian says he has it set up with a 3.0v battery.

 

[TommydCat]

Just got off the phone with D9 and they're sending me a new hammer piece, another Ego-W (somehow arrived destroyed?) some new o-rings for the Nibbler X (fits really loose, but should be a no-brainer fix), and a CE4 to "try out" (since I'm new to e-juice as well).

Nice enough guy I was talking with (though a bit abrupt when answering), and it looks like they want to keep me happy. I want to keep happy. Let's make this work!

Edit so as not to double post:

FWIW, when energy is converted into a radiant form (light, heat, sound), it takes FOUR times the energy to get DOUBLE the output at the same point away from the source (you don't measure the source directly).

Also - for those using the 2xCR123A 6.0V setup, do you put a band or something around the cells to keep them from rattling around inside the Persei body, or just throw 'em in as-is? Didn't realize they were smaller, but doesn't seem to be causing trouble so far..

 

[hansdampf]

I just vaped some LOUIS IV BRITTLE WAX very BLONDE in a 2.4 cart and it was smooth and powerful.
I really don't understand for medical reasons why you need more?
The 5.0's are crazy powerful and I think they are mainley recreational. (Nothing wrong with that)!
Just saying!

Here is a SHORTY 2.4
A SS Standard tube with 2 x 18350's 2 x 5.0 carts
even a standard PERSEI Tube with a 2.4 cart + 18650

Why the RED SS KIT?
I was planning on a RED PERSEI KIT.
Maybe a black SSL kit?

thanks for the foto..they look all great..

the plan now is: persei, black ss kit, 2x 5ohm included,one 2.4 cart, one 1.5 cart, and maybe ohter 5ohm carts..
what do i have to look about the batteries.. 18350 AW IMR 700mAh High Drain or 18350 IMR 800mAh High Drain...whats the difference?

and buying a second 18650 AW IMR 2000mAh High Drain is that neccessairy?

http://www.delta9vapes.com/products.php?product=18650-AW-IMR-2000mAh-High-Drain

 

[OF]

i will go first with one 2.4 till i can handle it..the worst scenario is loosing .2 if the 2.4 is two weak.

for the stealthfactor i thougt to go with the persei ss, for that i need 3.7v carts,right?

thanks alot for your answers, my english is little bit crappy..

IMO a good call, you won't be disappointed. Don't expect it to be too weak, it's not really, some guys just like to say 'I need bigger clouds' in public I guess. Folks with reasonable tolerance levels were very happy with them for a long time, most of us still are IMO.

Yes, the SS is a 3.7 Volt (or 3.0 with RCR123As).

Nothing wrong with your English, you get through just fine. Better than some of the products of our schools who think they're using English well......

Good luck with your new unit. Pay strict attention to the quality and loading of your concentrate.

FWIW, when energy is converted into a radiant form (light, heat, sound), it takes FOUR times the energy to get DOUBLE the output at the same point away from the source (you don't measure the source directly).

Also - for those using the 2xCR123A 6.0V setup, do you put a band or something around the cells to keep them from rattling around inside the Persei body, or just throw 'em in as-is? Didn't realize they were smaller, but doesn't seem to be causing trouble so far..

While true, I'm not sure how the 'square law' for radiant energy relates to D9 products all of which are conduction except Bender where you can't change the distance or power?

When I ran RCR123As in mine I wrapped some paper around the batteries to keep the rattle under control, but I'm not sure it's necessary.

thanks for the foto..they look all great..

the plan now is: persei, black ss kit, 2x 5ohm included,one 2.4 cart, one 1.5 cart, and maybe ohter 5ohm carts..
what do i have to look about the batteries.. 18350 AW IMR 700mAh High Drain or 18350 IMR 800mAh High Drain...whats the difference?

and buying a second 18650 AW IMR 2000mAh High Drain is that neccessairy?

By all means stick with the AWs, if you want performance, they're superior.....which is why we pay more for 'worse mAh'. I still think not getting more 2.4s is a big mistake (and for sure buying more 5.0s before you've tried the first doesn't make much sense to me), but it's your money and goods. Yes, I think a charged backup battery is very important. Not only will it keep you going when the one in use dies unexpectedly (and it will) but when things get weak you want to test the battery being low before you mess with adding more goods.

OF

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Also - for those using the 2xCR123A 6.0V setup, do you put a band or something around the cells to keep them from rattling around inside the Persei body, or just throw 'em in as-is? Didn't realize they were smaller, but doesn't seem to be causing trouble so far..

they are fine as is, unless you are playing football or mountain biking i am pretty sure you'll be fine

 

[hansdampf]

more 5.0s doesnt really make sense..instead i will take view 2.4s more.. and when the new hercules comes out i'm ready with my persei..thanks OF

 

[OF]

more 5.0s doesnt really make sense..instead i will take view 2.4s more.. and when the new hercules comes out i'm ready with my persei..thanks OF

You're welcome my friend. Good luck with it.

IMO it's pretty hard to go too far wrong if you start with gear like this and keep your wits about you.

OF

 

[ataxian]

Just got off the phone with D9 and they're sending me a new hammer piece, another Ego-W (somehow arrived destroyed?) some new o-rings for the Nibbler X (fits really loose, but should be a no-brainer fix), and a CE4 to "try out" (since I'm new to e-juice as well).

Nice enough guy I was talking with (though a bit abrupt when answering), and it looks like they want to keep me happy. I want to keep happy. Let's make this work!

Edit so as not to double post:

FWIW, when energy is converted into a radiant form (light, heat, sound), it takes FOUR times the energy to get DOUBLE the output at the same point away from the source (you don't measure the source directly).

Also - for those using the 2xCR123A 6.0V setup, do you put a band or something around the cells to keep them from rattling around inside the Persei body, or just throw 'em in as-is? Didn't realize they were smaller, but doesn't seem to be causing trouble so far..

You can wedge something if you like however I haven't had any issues in that regards.
I use PURE GOLD with the CARTIMIZER WITH NO PROBLEM NOW IF i RECOMMEND IT TO SOMEONE AND IT DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM IT'S NOT MY FAULT!
I'm loving my PERSEI configurations.
Works for me!

Here's some of my setups. (PURE GOLD) I like wax better however sometime this is all I can do!

When you start your battery collection buy AW's.
They seem to perform superior to the other brands.

 

[Atomsk]

Glad to see so much information shared today.
Hoping for some myself:

Does anyone have a recommendation for replacement O-rings that fit the metal mouth pieces? Preferably ones that are non-online order. If there's no local fix, I'm guessing I have to call in to D9 since they're not listed on the website.

personally i'd throw in some 5.0ohm carts as well. I dont think ill be purchasing too many 2.4ohm carts. i got some decent clouds with it but i couldnt feel the hits so much. The 5.0ohm carts are better in my opinion. The OF said the 5.0ohm carts provide a hit thats twice as strong, i personally feel like its 10 times as strong as the 2.4ohm, that is, the 2.4ohm carts really werent getting me high. Be that as it may, the 5.0ohm carts will give you less hits since it gives stronger hits. Earlier somebody said that the 1.5ohm cart hit 2nd best to the 5.0ohm cart if you're looking for something less strong.

Just a thought, but from your earlier posts it seems you've recently switched from combustion. Did you try vaping before the Persei? I only asks because the switch to vaping for medium to heavy smokers can throw you off initially.

In a smoking high you feel different and more immediate effects than a vapor high because your body is actively working against the toxins you just inhaled, so some of the sensation comes from that. This means that the normal "cues" that we're conditioned to look for to tell us we're getting high (coughing, expansion, harshness, etc) may not apply to the vaporizing experience.

With smoking, thicker was always better. Milky bong rips and fat blunt clouds were our ratios. With vaping it's not as simple. Some of my craziest highs were from bags of thin-looking vapor. And when I was new to vapor it was always a creeping high. It actually still is for the most part. So there are some inherent differences to consider.

Just something to think about. Maybe the 2.4ohms didn't seem as effective because you're used to the combustion side of cannabis still? I know it was the case for me a few years ago before I made the switch. I recommend, once you have your fill and draw techniques down pat, you give the 2.4's another chance. The only reason I tend to favor 1.5ohm over them is because I don't have the lung capacity to draw so long on the 2.4ohms. Not because of a good vs. bad tier. Then again, we all have to find whatever fits our particular medicinal needs.

 

[ataxian]

Glad to see so much information shared today.
when I was new to vapor it was always a creeping high. It actually still is for the most part. So there are some inherent differences to consider.

Just something to think about. Maybe the 2.4ohms didn't seem as effective because you're used to the combustion side of cannabis still? I know it was the case for me a few years ago before I made the switch. I recommend, once you have your fill and draw techniques down pat, you give the 2.4's another chance. The only reason I tend to favor 1.5ohm over them is because I don't have the lung capacity to draw so long on the 2.4ohms. Not because of a good vs. bad tier. Then again, we all have to find whatever fits our particular medicinal needs.

Very well said!
I just loaded a brand new 2.4 cart with the wax I just got from my clinic $35/gram blonde just the shake of the TOP SHELF STRAINS no name really.

0.5 grams loaded into a 2.4 cart then on to my CHROME PERSEI with a 18650 3.7V Battery.
I must be doing something wrong?
I'm so medicated.
This is very powerful!
Tonight I will load two 5.0 carts and set up a dually.
Testing out my 6.0V setup or get some 4.0 carts and try it?

 

[OF]

Does anyone have a recommendation for replacement O-rings that fit the metal mouth pieces? Preferably ones that are non-online order. If there's no local fix, I'm guessing I have to call in to D9 since they're not listed on the website.

I think -009 or -105s will work, hopefully the Local Hardware store has them in the plumbing section? If you have one that broke, or just one you pried off for the trip, bringing that with you should cinch the deal.

Perhaps someone who actually knows what they're talking about will pipe up?

OF

 

[kindbeats]

For those who use the Iris and the Bender in unison, have any of you found a voltage that is ideal for flavor without any possibility of combustion?

 

[friedbanana8]

The only reason I tend to favor 1.5ohm over them is because I don't have the lung capacity to draw so long on the 2.4ohms. Not because of a good vs. bad tier. Then again, we all have to find whatever fits our particular medicinal needs.

this is one of the reasons id prefer a 5.0ohm to a 2.4ohm. the 2.4ohm to me was like drinking warm water on a hot ass day, it just doesnt make the thirst go away. im glad they blew up when i set them up to 7.4v. I seriously feel like it was wasting away in the 2.4ohm. I didnt even consider my self a heavy smoker back when i combusted. My intake was at about 1-2 bowls in an 8 inch bong a day. Maybe my tolerance increased in that one weekend i was waiting for my cartridges to arrive and i just had the hercules which is just too amazing

 

[ataxian]

this is one of the reasons id prefer a 5.0ohm to a 2.4ohm. the 2.4ohm to me was like drinking warm water on a hot ass day, it just doesn't make the thirst go away.

My 2.4 carts are powerful and taste amazing?
This is what load into a 2.4 cart.
Taste Great!
MEDICATION Deeply.

Sometime I wonder if the medicine is to blame and not the device?

 

[hansdampf]

will there be a special 420 offer from the d9 for the persei or exists a fc discount code?

no news about the hercules?

i cant wait to order..

 

[friedbanana8]

My 2.4 carts are powerful and taste amazing?
This is what load into a 2.4 cart.
Taste Great!
MEDICATION Deeply.

Sometime I wonder if the medicine is to blame and not the device?

maybe, im new to concentrates so i cant say im confident when it comes to pointing out quality. i picked up from Just Quality Care over in Anaheim. Got 1g of some gucci og wax and and 1g of some girl scout cookie wax and 3g for $60 special for pure gold honeycomb wax. I had the pure gold honeycomb in the 2.4ohm as well as another 2.4ohm cart with some girl scout cookie. I considered them both ineffective.
ill load a picture of this stuff so you can tell me what you think...

 

[TommydCat]

Speaking of medicine quality, has anyone tried a true CO2 extract? We're just starting to see some high quality CO2 concentrates after a long, long wait! Allegedly, the taste is approaching BHO and no longer has the funky aftertaste found in some CO2 extracts - I'm thinking increased stealth factor might be the trick in certain carts, saving a few honeycomb-loaded carts for wide-open areas.

 

[ataxian]

maybe, im new to concentrates so i cant say im confident when it comes to pointing out quality. i picked up from Just Quality Care over in Anaheim. Got 1g of some gucci og wax and and 1g of some girl scout cookie wax and 3g for $60 special for pure gold honeycomb wax. I had the pure gold honeycomb in the 2.4ohm as well as another 2.4ohm cart with some girl scout cookie. I considered them both ineffective.
ill load a picture of this stuff so you can tell me what you think...

Sounds like good wax.
The 5.0 cart work fast and well as long as your set up is dialed in.

Maybe the 5.0's are the better choice in your case?
Interesting to try these same waxes in a 5.0 cart?
Post a picture!

Speaking of medicine quality, has anyone tried a true CO2 extract? We're just starting to see some high quality CO2 concentrates after a long, long wait! Allegedly, the taste is approaching BHO and no longer has the funky aftertaste found in some CO2 extracts - I'm thinking increased stealth factor might be the trick in certain carts, saving a few honeycomb-loaded carts for wide-open areas.

We had a collective in the OC that had great CO2 WAX in a syringe that was smooth and TOP SHELF.
They got shut down!

 

[friedbanana8]

Sounds like good wax.
The 5.0 cart work fast and well as long as your set up is dialed in.

Maybe the 5.0's are the better choice in your case?
Interesting to try these same waxes in a 5.0 cart?
Post a picture!

We had a collective in the OC that had great CO2 WAX in a syringe that was smooth and TOP SHELF.
They got shut down!

i put them up in a edit to the post i made before this one
yeah what i do with the 5.0ohm is start breathing in before even pressing the button then i take a 5 second hit and i keep hitting for another 3-4 seconds sometimes ill do a double hit with a cool down of 3 seconds between hits.
Even though theres combustion, i gotta say that it tastes really good to throw in some good quality bud with your concentrates in the hercules. i might buy a gram of some OG every now and then to throw in. Alot of times i can talk my friends into putting some bud in and they'll get a monster hit or 2 and call it quits and leave me with enough bud for the weekend.