Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
if you have lips like mine, where i can't get a good seal w/ out it, then it is priceless
Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.
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friedbanana8
Well-Known Member
my carts whistle when i take a hit, is there something im doing wrong when i fill?
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
nope, just airflow. relax, ur doing fine
friedbanana8
Well-Known Member
nope, just airflow. relax, ur doing fine
im not fond of the whistling. its all good though, because with the hercules i can take amazing stealthy hits just as long as im careful not to over do it and end up coughing up a lung lol
poonman
Well-Known Member
They recommend (in order to avoid leaks/clogs) that you only load .5 into the cart at first. Then when that .5 gets down to .2/.25 left in the cart add another .25 of wax in (.25+.25 = .5 again with .25 left over) then when that next .5 in your cart gets down to .25 again load in the final .25 of wax you have left over .. .50 + .25 + .25 = 1G
Also for the white stopper. Im assuming your talking about the thing that goes on the top of the cart? looks like a tiny white donut ? thats just for storage purposes but i found i still didnt really need it. you put the cap on when your not using the cart and take it off before use.
hope that helped.
OF
Well-Known Member
I just answered that question on the other thread you asked it on.....which you're not supposed to do for that very reason.......
Same answer as k3nd41.
OF
been absent from the forums for a while now. I think that explain how much i love the Persei. unfortunately ran out of the oil in both carts so now i back to the sober lifestyle for a bit.
when my carts ran out i actually took them apart completely to see the insides. One cart when i removed the bottom had oil soaked through that stopped and on the wire. what did i do for this to happen? Also only one side of the wick seemed to have oil on it. The other one on the other hand was fine and i had no problems with it until i ran out of oil ( ended up heating the remains of the cart which was just the metal outside with the inside out already and stuck a blunt in to get the remaining oil out and onto the blunt)
Im really happy with the persei but as of right now i think i may wait for the hercules to come out before i load any more wax. Any idea on a release date yet ? if its relatively soon i will hold off but if not ill just load another cart for the wait.
when my carts ran out i actually took them apart completely to see the insides. One cart when i removed the bottom had oil soaked through that stopped and on the wire. what did i do for this to happen? Also only one side of the wick seemed to have oil on it. The other one on the other hand was fine and i had no problems with it until i ran out of oil ( ended up heating the remains of the cart which was just the metal outside with the inside out already and stuck a blunt in to get the remaining oil out and onto the blunt)
Im really happy with the persei but as of right now i think i may wait for the hercules to come out before i load any more wax. Any idea on a release date yet ? if its relatively soon i will hold off but if not ill just load another cart for the wait.
poonman
Well-Known Member
How do you remove the cart to see the insides...ie the wick ?
well mine were already empty & I had extras so I didn't mind breaking it..
I stuck a paperclip in the bottom hole and gently pulled on it and it eventually popped out (attached to a wire) then I stuck it in the air hole from the top and gently pulled till that whole piece came out.
I don't recommend this though as I'm pretty sure it completely ruins the cart.
Bodhi Diesel
Cannabis Snob
If it's whistling you may be hitting it a tad too hard. Low and slow is where it's at.
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
Fill a couple carts, bro.
PlanetVape lists the 7.4v Herc as being up for release 04/29/13 but what with testing, manufacturing, then getting the new version to original Hercules owners, even when the Herc is done I'm guessing it'll take new buyers another month before they're up for grabs. So that's ball parking it at two months. D9 doesn't have a sure date themselves, so I wouldn't hold my breath.
It's a damn shame, too. I was hoping I'd have a Hercules in hand by 04/20. Guess it's double-barrel 2.4's on 7.4v until then.
Yeah, just hit it a little slower, there's nothing wrong with how you filled it. Chances are the wax is close to the flue shaft, no biggie. And Herc'll be stealthy to a certain point, pretty sure people'll noticed how you're somehow blowing actual clouds. Still can't wait for it either.
OF
Well-Known Member
I tend to be a little less subtle. I pry or pull the center pin out, cut the wire and poke a bamboo skewer up the hole in the connector (pluck the rubber bits out for more room) and push the yucky stuff out the top of the tube.
Yes, it's terminal on the cart. Once set, the seals are sure to leak if you disturb them even if you fix the electrical connections. It was kinda fun to light up the heater on the table top though.....
And for those concerned with the whistle, I agree you're probably pulling to hard anyway. Experienced guys know why they whistle anyway.......they don't know the words you know.
Transformer hum for the same reason, BTW.
OF
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
friedbanana8
Well-Known Member
later today im going to try to use the hercules with oil and herb. does anybody know the technique to vape both at the same time? i know that if you put the bud on the bottom and the oil on top theres going to be combustion for the oil to vape, but i heard there was a way to vape them both by putting the bud on top. Has anybody tried this yet?
OF
Well-Known Member
Yes, of course guys have tried it. Even after G warned us it doesn't work.
We can, I think, safely assume he made that statement based on experience (meaning he tried too...). For sure it's not a listed feature.
The temperatures and more importantly 'power density' needed are too different. Note the lower powered 3.7 Volt version won't do oil even alone? Clue there.
No reason to to try if you can spare the goods, but I wouldn't hold out much hope. Better to do them serially rather than parallel.
OF
friedbanana8
Well-Known Member
how do you make that work? i just tried it for 3 seconds and it fried my carts. Got one really amazing hit but then nothing. its ok though cause i wasn't really feeling the 2.4ohm carts, after the first day with them. The hits are too weak for me. i decided to try another 5.0ohm cart and i got it tested and filled and its hitting really well. I can really feel these hits. Which cart would be the one that hits 2nd to the 5.0ohm cart?
And is the minimum hit range 400 for the 5.0ohm like the 2.4ohm cart?
im going to give it a try and see what happens. ill report back with my observations
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
You and your tremendous arsenal, ataxian. It's a wonder you find yourself on the forums instead of knocked out on the couch most afternoons.
They were too weak for me as well. If you want to do it right, remember that you have to balance everything out: how long and hard you're drawing to how hot and quick the wire is heating up. So if you have a hotter wire, you'll need to draw at a different rate of suction, and for longer. The trick I did with running 2.4ohm that high is drawing a little faster than you would on 3.7v. You "pulse" the button, meaning you press it multiple times, but never for 3 seconds. I do about a half to a full second button press, then continue drawing for 2-3 seconds without, then repeat until the last hit where, after releasing the button the final time, I draw for an additional 5-10 seconds (no button) to cool down the cart. You get disgustingly fat hits and the flavor isn't so compromised
Also, I'd follow OF's advice, pal. If you already have a Hercules, use it the ways everyone here says they work. They already have a known problem, adding to that list will only give you the level of frustration I am currently enjoying, waiting for the new Hercules to be complete. It is yours to use as you please. Just hoping you don't do something you'll regret.
Lastly, the minimum range is, I believe, lower. That's why people favor 2.4ohm at 3.7v. They last way longer as they're the least volatile. The 5ohm at 7.4v is a little more than double that power, so you might factor around half of a 2.4's lifetime for a 5. Then again it's all about how you treat your carts. If you're feeding them the optimal oil, never overheating them, and generally maintaining them well, you should see a lot of life out of both carts.
They were too weak for me as well. If you want to do it right, remember that you have to balance everything out: how long and hard you're drawing to how hot and quick the wire is heating up. So if you have a hotter wire, you'll need to draw at a different rate of suction, and for longer. The trick I did with running 2.4ohm that high is drawing a little faster than you would on 3.7v. You "pulse" the button, meaning you press it multiple times, but never for 3 seconds. I do about a half to a full second button press, then continue drawing for 2-3 seconds without, then repeat until the last hit where, after releasing the button the final time, I draw for an additional 5-10 seconds (no button) to cool down the cart. You get disgustingly fat hits and the flavor isn't so compromised
Also, I'd follow OF's advice, pal. If you already have a Hercules, use it the ways everyone here says they work. They already have a known problem, adding to that list will only give you the level of frustration I am currently enjoying, waiting for the new Hercules to be complete. It is yours to use as you please. Just hoping you don't do something you'll regret.
Lastly, the minimum range is, I believe, lower. That's why people favor 2.4ohm at 3.7v. They last way longer as they're the least volatile. The 5ohm at 7.4v is a little more than double that power, so you might factor around half of a 2.4's lifetime for a 5. Then again it's all about how you treat your carts. If you're feeding them the optimal oil, never overheating them, and generally maintaining them well, you should see a lot of life out of both carts.
OF
Well-Known Member
Of course not. Bigger hits need more oil, this is not magic.
"The lamp that burns twice as bright burns half as long". Good advice in Jesus' day (even well before.....), still good now.
And of course you will, good luck, please do let us know?
TIA
OF
friedbanana8
Well-Known Member
ill have to give the double barrow 2.4ohms at 7.4v another try when i order more cartridges. i got an amazing hit with it and was stoked until i drew nothing when i tried again.
im looking for a cart that well give me a hit less harsh than the 5.0ohm though or volatage setting in combination with a cart. im talking about the 5.0ohm car at 7.4v. would the 2.4ohm cart possible give a stronger hit with a 4.2v battery? can i buy a 4.2v and use it in my persei?
i was convinced that it wouldn't hurt to try but you make it sound like it could damage the hercules. if thats the case then i wont try to vape herb and oil at the same time. its safe to combust herb and vape oils at the same time though right?
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
Yeah it hits very well, getting it to keep doing so is the real trick. You were just a bit too heavy on the button; just give it a couple more weeks and I'm sure you'll find what you're looking for.
Now if you want less harsh, you might consider 1.5ohm @ 3.7v. It's a little less strong than 5 @7.4v. If you want to make your 2.4 hit harder, I've been using a buddies variable voltage e-cig w/ adapter. It runs to 4.8 and you get some pretty quick, fairly thick hits.
For your given equipment, definitely try the lower ohm 1.5. If it's still harsh, buy an VV e-cig batt and adapter. If you want the best experience possible, though, buy a NibblerX. This is the bubbler that fits on the cart. You get way smooth hits because of the water filtration, and it's all packaged to fit conveniently on what you already have.
Bob Loblaw
Astralnaut
NOOO! at the very least a 4 ohm cart for 7.4. and that'd better be shatter.
look at planetvape.ca on the persei page for ohm to volt ratios
you have been warned, lol
OF
Well-Known Member
You're a good man, Bob. Keep it up. Tell 'em the truth, not what they want to hear and you'll sleep better at night.
A few of us are gratified to see it. Bully!
OF
Atomsk
Floating In My Tin Can
Sure if you're one of those people who's big on "safety".
Just kiddin', Bob
It's good advice, though, and good practice to give such safe advice to new people. I use the bar graph on PlanetVape pretty frequently. But, as is the attitude in this thread more often than not, if it works for you, then go for it.
I know 2.4ohm @ 7.4v is definitely not recommended. I only tried it cause I was on my final cart and it just wasn't hitting anymore. Two weeks from that day, that cart is hitting better than when I only used 3.7v. I'm not saying this is always going to be repeatable, or that it's the best way, but it's the way that works best for me. It's a suicidal set-up for someone new to a Persei, prone to burning out far more than a 5ohm cart @ 7.4v. But if you know what you're doing and the cart isn't overheating, constantly clogging or leaking (neither whatsoever), then what would the problem be?
I certainly don't know all I could about the system yet, how exactly the carts work, and what, electrically, might be compromised by pairing ohms to voltages they weren't meant for. So if there's something inherently negative about my current set up, please let me know!