Discontinued The Persei Vaporizer for herbs and concentrates.

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DrRishi

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stimp_420 said:
@DrRishi have you seen my rebuild explanation?, its not the greatest but I use the rebuild kit supplies by w9, I am going to make a video once and for all since I have time off work for a bit now that will make the crappy explantion make perfect sense haha

Edit: it was waaay back on page 1043
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Thanks. I was using a wooden skewer but I was twisting the wire around it which is not good so its a great tip to turn the skewer and not the wire. I will give it a try.
If you have the time a video would be great!. I a worried I will run out of the gold clamps since you only get 10 per rebuild kit. I may try reusing .
 
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SamuraiSam

SamuraiSam

Extraction Technician
Best thing for me is measure the length of the Ti wire you need based on the old wire. Stretch it out and add a few cm for leeway. Then I cut this off the spool. At the suggestion of another FC'er I found a drill bit that's sized just smaller than the black wick in the rebuild kit. About 1/16" smaller. I cleaned it well of all oils with degreaser and then final clean with acetone before using it to wrap Ti.

I use the round end of it, the part that would go in the chuck to form the wire around. I take a finger and lay it on top of the wire and the rod underneath and spin the rod to wind the Ti around the drill bit. This keeps the Ti wire from twisting up at all and wraps very nicely. It won't "fix" in place you must use are while wrapping the wire. Making the coil tighter means you'll need to gently hold the coil and "spin" the wick into it. What this does it keeps the heating wire tightly in contact with the wick and this causes the wick to heat more efficiently than a loose coil which will tend to vaporize oils in contact with the wire only.

I've messed up a few gold crimps, Make sure you crimp the bead not just the center.
 
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itschad

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Could having a bad fuse or having a short from the button cause my 8 to not heat up as quickly as my other top? I feel like the button ISNT an issue from how far i've got it screwed in, but those are the only things i can really think of that would be causing this


and where can i buy a new fuse if so
 
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lonelyhero

lonelyhero

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itschad said:
Could having a bad fuse or having a short from the button cause my 8 to not heat up as quickly as my other top? I feel like the button ISNT an issue from how far i've got it screwed in, but those are the only things i can really think of that would be causing this


and where can i buy a new fuse if so
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if your button is screwed in too much it may have a short does your button get warm/hot after you take a hit? if it does id be willing to bet its adjusted too far in

the best way to adjust the 8 in my experience

1. remove top cap and top pin

2. push button all the way in to check contact with the bottom pin

3a. if the bottom pin is being pushed back adjust the button screw back 1/8th turn at a time until the bottom pin makes contact but doesn't move

3b. if its not making contact adjust the button screw in 1/8th turn at a time

4. once the button makes contact with the bottom pin without moving it replace the top pin adjust the gold nuts up a little higher than usual

5. screw cart into top and slowly screw top cap onto the 8 until you feel resistance from the gold nuts

6. adjust gold nuts as needed to make good contact without a gap under the top cap

i apologize if this is a bit long or anyone has a hard time understanding what i mean i don't always know the best way to explain my methods
 
lonelyhero

lonelyhero

the lost soul
Company Rep
StormyPinkness said:
Wait, so is this a mod to mod thread adapter?
http://www.w9tech.com/adapter-tower-style/

I want to order something in 510 and I like mod better than ego. I guess half an inch of gold adapter is going to look funny though.
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That would be what you'd want and if you want to hide the adapter you can get a small peice of pipe the same size as the cart cut to cover the adapter or a pipe end cap and drill a hole the size of the adapter to keep it in place
 
elmoe420

elmoe420

Well-Known Member
StormyPinkness said:
Wait, so is this a mod to mod thread adapter?
http://www.w9tech.com/adapter-tower-style/

I want to order something in 510 and I like mod better than ego. I guess half an inch of gold adapter is going to look funny though.
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It works but really does look terrible. I got the same adapter awhile back for testing some 601 W9 carts and a 510 temp control mod. Worked well enough for my testing but hideous to look at hah.
 
Fredster951

Fredster951

Well-Known Member
elmoe420 said:
It works but really does look terrible. I got the same adapter awhile back for testing some 601 W9 carts and a 510 temp control mod. Worked well enough for my testing but hideous to look at hah.
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What is your conclusion for
W9 carts on a TC mod? If u don't mind me asking. Thanks

I sure wish w9 had a TC mod. Maybe that's what the Iris 2 will be? A dual 18650 box would be nice. Especially with the UP tech logo. With Ti wire mode for accurate temp. And special modes for ceramic like the Sr HERC heating rod and 1701.
 
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THC SCIENTIFIC

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To Boldly Go Where No One Has Gone Before
Manufacturer
DaNi_DuB said:
Lol this question is rhetorical, but why the fuck is my v4 Persei obsolete? I invested in in the upgrade because I thought I was preventing this.
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Calm down the Persei is not obsolete.

We do have to always make things better don't we? The Persei will run the gen 3 carts at 3.7v 18650 and 99.9% of the time at 7.4v

Now if you do not wish to purchase the Gen 3 kiss carts then don't, the Hercules and gen 2 kiss carts are available. I don't think that is considered obsolete when the Persei does what it's designed to do and that is run the Hercules.
 
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PPN

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Hi, I tried my hammer rod as a herb iron and can't get any vapor, only a nice taste....

Is it possible to use it like that?

I put my rod on my sr-74 insulator connected to the hammer on the core at 8.4v, the rod was placed in a cyclone bowl and the weed was in a FW capsule placed on the top of the rod(with ssshield) and I draw with a glass mp connected to this setup (àla bender...except the herb is around it and not only on the top), it was airproof cause I placed a silicone joint between the cyclone bowl and the insulator (with a hole for airflow).

Any help appreciated!
 
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bdmonkeyj3w

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THC SCIENTIFIC said:
Calm down the Persei is not obsolete.

We do have to always make things better don't we? The Persei will run the gen 3 carts at 3.7v 18650 and 99.9% of the time at 7.4v

Now if you do not wish to purchase the Gen 3 kiss carts then don't, the Hercules and gen 2 kiss carts are available. I don't think that is considered obsolete when the Persei does what it's designed to do and that is run the Hercules.
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V4 perseis run the gen 3 99.9% of the time? Im not trying to play gotcha G, but i have 2 gen 3 dual coils, neither work at 7.4 and work at 3.7 after i force it while holding the button to screw on the cart. Once they get warm they seem alright at 3.7 as far as not giving red lights, but 7.4 is still a fantasy for my v4 at this point.
 
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THC SCIENTIFIC

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bdmonkeyj3w said:
V4 perseis run the gen 3 99.9% of the time? Im not trying to play gotcha G, but i have 2 gen 3 dual coils, neither work at 7.4 and work at 3.7 after i force it while holding the button to screw on the cart. Once they get warm they seem alright at 3.7 as far as not giving red lights, but 7.4 is still a fantasy for my v4 at this point.
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that could be a fluke and we will fix it if a ticket is submitted.

Nothing about playing gotcha at all. This is why i hate wire coils. Tolerances are to wide and taken many things into account it could very well be the top or the coil.

submit a ticket and all we can do is fix your issues and try to rework the Persei tops again.
 
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ragnorokk

ragnorokk

DERP
THC SCIENTIFIC said:
that could be a fluke and we will fix it if a ticket is submitted.

Nothing about playing gotcha at all. This is why i hate wire coils. Tolerances are to wide and taken many things into account it could very well be the top or the coil.

submit a ticket and all we can do is fix your issues and try to rework the Persei tops again.
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Why not make the voltage safety tolerances a smigeon more lenient, since you already require AW IMR cells be used for your vapes. I guess that may already be what you're doing, just thinking publicly.

@bdmonkeyj3w
I don't think the chips they use can be flashed w/ new programming :( it sure would be super rad if the programming could be updated though, right? "Top won't fire gen3? Here, try this fw fix"
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I can dream
 
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bdmonkeyj3w

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THC SCIENTIFIC said:
that could be a fluke and we will fix it if a ticket is submitted.

Nothing about playing gotcha at all. This is why i hate wire coils. Tolerances are to wide and taken many things into account it could very well be the top or the coil.

submit a ticket and all we can do is fix your issues and try to rework the Persei tops again.
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Cool, i understand the tolerances for the carts and how sensitive the new circuitry is, i do have my roomies v2 to fire on. The gen 3s are nice to hand to the impatient friends, and have saved my herc from the abusers. Is this something you guys can just crack open and reprogram for individual units or is it more complicated than that?
 
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DaNi_DuB

DaNi_DuB

Vapor Enthusiast
THC SCIENTIFIC said:
Calm down the Persei is not obsolete.

We do have to always make things better don't we? The Persei will run the gen 3 carts at 3.7v 18650 and 99.9% of the time at 7.4v

Now if you do not wish to purchase the Gen 3 kiss carts then don't, the Hercules and gen 2 kiss carts are available. I don't think that is considered obsolete when the Persei does what it's designed to do and that is run the Hercules.
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Lol I asked if you were making any new carts for the Persei & you response was that you were working on a new unit. I was under the (possibly imagined) impression that the Persei & 8 were designed to be the only vapes guaranteed to run all of your carts, not just the Hercules. Now that I know that my core is nothing but a $100 power adapter for my $130 battery (Persei) that is only meant to run my $100 cart (SR74x), I doubt I'll be throwing anymore money at you unless it's to keep my Herc going. Thanks for the great products but I'll pass.

PS those prices don't include all of the upgrade fees that I've paid.
 
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DaNi_DuB said:
Lol I asked if you were making any new carts for the Persei & you response was that you were working on a new unit. I was under the (possibly imagined) impression that the Persei & 8 were designed to be the only vapes guaranteed to run all of your carts, not just the Hercules. Now that I know that my core is nothing but a $100 power adapter for my $130 battery (Persei) that is only meant to run my $100 cart (SR74x), I doubt I'll be throwing anymore money at you unless it's to keep my Herc going. Thanks for the great products but I'll pass.

PS those prices don't include all of the upgrade fees that I've paid.
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ok let's answer your question.

You assumed the 8 can run all our carts at the time of its release.

Yes it can.

You assumed the Persei can run all our carts at the time of its release.

Yes it can

You assumed the Core can run all our carts at the time of its release

Yes it can


Lets get one thing straight.


The Persei and 8 are designed to run all the carts that we have in stock when they are released.
Not future carts.

The Touch button was developed and released before the Kiss Gen 3 was even a possibility.


For us to not develop anything new is out of the question and thats your issue that you need learn to live with it. Thousands of customers are happy because they are enjoying their kiss Gen 3's

that is all im going to say on this subject in fact because it seems you do not understand

because i specifically said the 8 can run the Kiss Gen 3 at full potential and you still went on to comment about the 8 not being able to run all our carts.

I specifically said the Persei can run the Kiss Gen 3 with a small exception to the out of variance carts and once again you went on to comment that it wont.

Please read before you post.
 
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