The Magic-Flight Box

[chloe]

maybe a green led to let the user know the unit is working as in producing vape...

I've been toying with the idea of putting a LED in one of my Boxes, but I haven't given it enough thought to try experimenting yet. I would, no doubt, destroy at least one Box in my efforts to figure out some way to construct it as elegantly as the Box itself.

It would need to be defeatable for those times when a light turning on would be counter productive to the stealth mode. It would have to run on 1.0 to 1.2 volts but circuit placement would be critical because the voltage across the copper rods is no doubt different on one side of the screen from the other (there's 10 amps running through the screen and the battery doesn't have zero internal impedance). It would have to be blue (just kidding).

my last thing I'd say for things to improve on, but I'm not sure how this would be possible is a way to remove hot batteries easier....

This one is easy, and I suggested it eons ago, maybe in the beta thread. Still, it's my fault for not uploading a picture, which I promised to do, but never did...

You wrap a single layer of one inch (preferably) white cloth tape around the circumference of the battery at the bottom. This allows you to easily grip even snug batteries, even when they're hot, and even when your fingers are sweaty. It also allows you to label your batteries, so you can keep track of which is which, and it allows you to easily feather the battery in and out, one handed, with two fingers. It's great when holding the Box in your left hand with your hand over the box; use your thumb from underneath and your middle finger from above to just slide the battery out a few centimeters. The tape also acts as a great visual indicator as to whether the battery is in the working or extracted position. When the battery is fully inserted, there is (essentially) no visible battery sticking out, just the part with the white tape. When you partially withdraw the battery, you can see a bit of bare metal between the Box and the tape. You do want to make sure the tape itself does not impede full insertion of the battery, but if you use one inch wide tape, you'll find it the perfect size. And no battery charger I've used cares about the tape being there, as the bottom of the battery is still totally uncovered by the tape.

Haywood

great post!...thank you

 

[reece]

Got my warranty replacement Box Friday. There is a definite difference in functionality. I feel much more heat as I draw. The herbs get nicely toasted.I believe I was doing alright with the first Box. It just took a very long time to finish a trench. Wow.

Thanks again magicflight. It really annoys me, to say the least, that customer service has fallen by the wayside with far too many businesses. To see a company provide excellent customer service gives me hope. Yeah you right!

 

[magicflight]

Hi,

In regards to the LED, one of our engineers researched that already. When the Box is in operation, the voltage on the rods is fairly low -- too low to turn on a LED (less than a volt). The alternative is a low voltage incandescent light -- which when tested works reasonably well. Unfortunately, there are no companies (of which we are aware) that are still manufacturing those. If someone knows of a company that is not simply selling off their remainder stock, we would be interested to know.

-- Magic-flight

 

[magicflight]

...a design mod where I won't touch the copper coil...
...more consistency with battery contact...

This is getting looked into. There are a couple of other related issues that we are also trying to solve.

... some sorta battery detection would be cool to notify user of how much juice is left in the battery ...

One trick to use is to put the battery in with the Box open and empty. Bring the Box near to the face with the open side towards/near the lips so that you can feel the heat. With a little experience, you will be able to tell immediately how "fresh" the battery charge is.

An AC adapter would be AWESOME

Agreed. We have a design for one and are attempting to find a means by which we can produce it without it being excessively expensive.

-- Magic-flight

 

[reece]

Got my warranty replacement Box Friday. There is a definite difference in functionality. I feel much more heat as I draw. The herbs get nicely toasted.I believe I was doing alright with the first Box. It just took a very long time to finish a trench. Wow.

I must have been spacing out because I didn't finish my thought. I was going to say, wow now I understand why everyone raves about the Launch Box.

 

[chloe]

...a design mod where I won't touch the copper coil...
...more consistency with battery contact...

This is getting looked into. There are a couple of other related issues that we are also trying to solve.

... some sorta battery detection would be cool to notify user of how much juice is left in the battery ...

One trick to use is to put the battery in with the Box open and empty. Bring the Box near to the face with the open side towards/near the lips so that you can feel the heat. With a little experience, you will be able to tell immediately how "fresh" the battery charge is.

An AC adapter would be AWESOME

Agreed. We have a design for one and are attempting to find a means by which we can produce it without it being excessively expensive.

-- Magic-flight

Thanks for the tips...and can't wait for the next version

 

[kingcrimson]

...a design mod where I won't touch the copper coil...
...more consistency with battery contact...

This is getting looked into. There are a couple of other related issues that we are also trying to solve.

I wouldn't call it a problem but improving connectivity would definately be awesome.

... some sorta battery detection would be cool to notify user of how much juice is left in the battery ...

One trick to use is to put the battery in with the Box open and empty. Bring the Box near to the face with the open side towards/near the lips so that you can feel the heat. With a little experience, you will be able to tell immediately how "fresh" the battery charge is.

great to know, and better than an extra part that costs money or can break

An AC adapter would be AWESOME

Agreed. We have a design for one and are attempting to find a means by which we can produce it without it being excessively expensive.

So badass!!!

-- Magic-flight

Thanks for the tips...and can't wait for the next version

I too am looking forward to the next step. I was going to pop in and say Hi after a while and re-sing the praises of the box, and saw this stuff on the radar, quite exciting despite any length of time that may be involved.

 

[IAmKrazy2]

would love to see any new products from Magic flight. Hell I just used mine while waiting for my E to heat up.... pretty standard after a real long work day without bringing it with me. have to make up for lost time

 

[heapofJeep]

Hello all,

Long time on-looker first time poster. Just wanted to express my joy as the Launch box arrived on my front step last night. Beautiful design sturdy and small. This is what i was looking for to use as a vape for fishing and hiking. I Own the cano digit and the extreme, this will fit perfectly in the rotation. I "tested" it extensively last night, much to the displeasure of the wife and I was feeling great after a .02. Can't ask for more.

 

[pyronym]

I think i may be having that same calibration problem. I can go through 2 batteries on one trench it hits but it takes forever for it to go brown. I think I'm going to give mf a call about it.

 

[chucku]

Has anyone tried using rechargeable lithium-ion batteries in the lb? It seems they may have a longer shelf life and last longer in use.

 

[Costanza]

I've had my Launch Box for a couple of weeks now and it does seem to work.
However, in order to close the current I've got to twist the battery around to try to find the right spot. The Energizer batteries are a looser fit so I've also got to angle the battery up or down, but even with the stock batteries I've got to sort of dial in the temperature and hold it at that spot. And unless I leave the battery in or only pull it out around a centimeter (keeping it aligned) I've got to try to find the sweet spot before every hit.
This makes each load take a long time to finish and also makes it confusing to determine whether or not a battery's dead because it may just not be at that exact angle. I'm not sure how common this is but I didn't read anything about this before I bought the LB.
Besides that the unit appears to be working fine. I'm very happy with how quickly the vapor forms once I've aligned it correctly.

 

[kingcrimson]

I can blacken a full trench on one battery easy, though at times I do feel like I have to twist/tweak/torque the battery slightly. Other times I feel like that and just slide it in to to test and dont hold it and its fine, so sometimes I feel like its in my head, though others its definately an issue.
With the capability to blacken (aka burn/char) I find there is a very fine and discernable line between good still and baked as well.

 

[magicflight]

Hi,

If people are finding that they need to consume more than one battery per loading, we suggest the following test to confirm if the unit is out of calibration and therefore eligible for a warranty replacement:
1) load the Box with some ABV material that is only slightly/lightly brown; 2) with the lid closed, insert a fresh charged battery, and 3) wait 2 minutes (without any drawing), watching for obvious color changes. This procedure should be able to convert the load to a dark brown (or more). Also, be aware that this test can get the battery very warm (perform this test only if absolutely necessary to confirm Box calibration).

If the above procedure does NOT result in a definite and obvious browning, then please contact us directly via email and we will issue a new Box. Otherwise, if this test does result in obvious browning, then we recommend that you significantly slow your draw rate while using the Box. Drawing too fast will have the effect of cooling the screen, even while battery energy continues to be consumed -- slower and more even drawing tends to produce better results.

As always, we remain committed to providing the best user experience with the Box that we can.

-- Magic-flight

PS: Several of our staff are on the road a lot these days (touring) and as such, please understand if our correspondence is occasionally delayed a bit (a day or two at most) while we find our way to the next internet access point.

 

[bluegrass58]

I agree with having to sometimes having to find a "sweet" spot with a battery. The ones that come with the unit fit great, and work real will producing the heat needed. I bought some other batteries, I think they are Energizer, and they are loose fitting, and I sometimes have to move them some to make good contact and produce heat. Is this normal? It seems they sometimes do not make good contact with the negative terminal, and I assume this is the issue. I considered getting some needle nose pliers and adjusting the copper loop, but I am afraid I could screw something up. It is not a big issue, just sometimes a little annoying.

 

[josh]

I agree with having to sometimes having to find a "sweet" spot with a battery. The ones that come with the unit fit great, and work real will producing the heat needed. I bought some other batteries, I think they are Energizer, and they are loose fitting, and I sometimes have to move them some to make good contact and produce heat. Is this normal? It seems they sometimes do not make good contact with the negative terminal, and I assume this is the issue. I considered getting some needle nose pliers and adjusting the copper loop, but I am afraid I could screw something up. It is not a big issue, just sometimes a little annoying.

I have some Energizer batteries and they have a loose fit as well. Although if I leave the Box in the sun for a bit the wood swells (I assume) and the batteries fit much more snugly. I find the fineness of the ground bud has a huge effect on the quickness of a full vape. If I put a full trenches worth of essentially dust I get a fairly quick (about 5 minutes time) fully vaped (very dark brown, spots of black) vape off of 1 battery whereas if the bud is not quite as finely ground I can run through multiple batteries before I can get it to the above referenced fully vaped markers. I do have quite a build-up of resin (I assume) on the rods that run length wise along the screen at the top part of the trench so I am not sure if this has any negative effect on temperature or what not. All in all, I like the box for quickness and ease of use. Sometimes I find myself just holding it near my nose and breathing in to get those nose-tingling hits. I get a nice quick head high this way that seems to add to the effect of inhaling the vape though my mouth.

Once i insert a battery I rarely ever take it out until I am done vaping that load. Do most others use this method as well or do you find yourself pulling the battery out after each hit or couple of hits?

 

[kingcrimson]

I agree with having to sometimes having to find a "sweet" spot with a battery. The ones that come with the unit fit great, and work real will producing the heat needed. I bought some other batteries, I think they are Energizer, and they are loose fitting, and I sometimes have to move them some to make good contact and produce heat. Is this normal? It seems they sometimes do not make good contact with the negative terminal, and I assume this is the issue. I considered getting some needle nose pliers and adjusting the copper loop, but I am afraid I could screw something up. It is not a big issue, just sometimes a little annoying.

At times Instead of just pushing in, with my energizers I push laterally a little to gain full contact with the loop.

Once i insert a battery I rarely ever take it out until I am done vaping that load. Do most others use this method as well or do you find yourself pulling the battery out after each hit or couple of hits?

I pull the battery out if I am not drawing air, otherwise this would result in black and burned herb quick. I think you might have some screen issues and its not working right. My first box I used hash and oil with and it seriously decresed the efficiency of the unit, I found myself thinking "what did I like about this device" using several batteries and gerenally unsatisfied in my stone...

and then my replacement arrived.

<3 Launch box I use 1 battery to 1 trench, always.

 

[jklasd]

well im probably going be ordering this guy in september right around school . i read the thread, good pretty good reviews and great customer service. also notice many batteries and chargers type talked bout on multiple pages. is there a thread where a list of the batteries and chargers are named? could be helpful to new owners looking withing having to keep searching in a 19 pages thread. maybe magicflight could edit the first post and include those? not really their job, but just a thought. or create a thread haha.

 

[Steve1208]

magicflight, is the bulb stem supposed to be very fragile? I virtually always use the peg stem, so it doesn't make much difference, but the one time that I tried to use the bulb stem, I could hear the bulb part cracking when I tried to gently push it into the hole.

 

[magicflight]

magicflight, is the bulb stem supposed to be very fragile? I virtually always use the peg stem, so it doesn't make much difference, but the one time that I tried to use the bulb stem, I could hear the bulb part cracking when I tried to gently push it into the hole.

Hi,

Not supposed to be that fragile -- usually they are fairly robust. However, they are hand made and there can be issues. Send us a private email with your address and we will send a replacement.

-- Magic-flight

 

[Steve1208]

I'm actually already receiving a replacement because my unit seems to be incorrectly calibrated, but thank you very much for such a quick response.

 

[vap999]

Can anyone suggest names/explanations for what the Launch Box is, other than its intended use? For example, if your car were being searched and you were asked, "What's this?," what would you say?

 

[wthanna]

Portable, battery operated incense burner/diffuser.

 

[vap999]

Portable, battery operated incense burner/diffuser.

In my view, telling this to a skeptical policeman or other person in authority would be worse than simply saying "I don't know."
Referring to incense and burning should just make someone more suspicious. You would be explicitly admitting that the LB is used for what many or most would consider to be an illicit drug-related use (covering up smells with incense).

 

[Hippie Dickie]

maybe you could distract the PoPo with the bag of bud that's next to the "incense burner".