blankrider
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Hey everyone. I currently own a E-nano and love it. I have never used a better vape. But I have heard a few people mention the hi and it's extra long waiting list. Even though I am extremely satisfied with my nano, the hi has sparked a curiosity inside of me.
Can someone who owns both or used both multiple times please give me a comparison of the two. Is the hi worth purchasing? Can it provide something my nano cannot?
Please tag me into your response so I don't miss it. Thanks
Can someone who owns both or used both multiple times please give me a comparison of the two. Is the hi worth purchasing? Can it provide something my nano cannot?
Please tag me into your response so I don't miss it. Thanks
i got a nano after i got my hi but while i was waiting for my vk to arrive!
ultimately they are both top tier performers. the ss core HI is functionally extremely similar to a nano. the glass core HI is quite unique though.
the biggest difference, i would say, is the HI is a very high precision DC vape. you have the benefits of knowing your temperature because DC power is very predictable, clean and precise. the tradeoff is a VVPS is necessary. the HI is very particular about clean power so you can't be sure a 12v wall wart going straight into it will always work, plus, such small variances in voltage as 0.05v~ can make a noticeable difference that you would want to be able to control it anyway.
on the other hand, the nano uses AC power which you wouldn't know the exact temperature or voltage at any given time, but you don't have to deal with a VVPS, instead you have an analog knob that goes from 0-10 and encompasses the entire temperature range of the vape.
i think unless you have a strong opinion about dry vs. water fitered vaping, the decision should come down most to whether you prefer digital precision/knowing your temps exactly or prefer analog control? if you like digital control, i would certainly take a HI over a Underdog as i feel the heater design is superior, alan is constantly upgrading it and it is truly impressive how he is constantly making innovations and making them better.
if you are a fan of dry vaping, i say HI all the way! i feel a dry vaping experience is best on the glass HI, next best on the SS hi, so the HI outshines the nano for dry vape either way. flavor is insanely good at lower temps on the HI but i tend to do higher temps.
alan has a new kind of micro roasting tube which is two small glass tubes connected by a cork piece. it's incredible. he described it to me as a one hitter tube and it is incredible and my favorite. it is usable with the nano if you are super careful but it is very easy with the nano to push it away from the center of the heater but it functions amazingly and makes giant clouds.but if you are getting it to complement a nano, definitely get the HIbrid core! the glass core is what really makes the HI stand out from the competition IMO.
for me my nano is my go-to vape and my HI i prefer for when i want a comfortable "luxury vape" session. especially if i am in the mood to dry vape, can take giant hits with no irritation and it is wonderful. i also prefer the analog control design for its simplicity, small size and i generally just prefer analog stuff even if i don't know exactly what's going on. i feel like it's because i have been repairing analog audio equipment for 20+ years?
so yes, i think the HI can give you something the nano can't. it really comes down to if the difference is what appeals to you, or if what makes the nano different from all the DC logs is what you like in a vape. you can use the turbo tubes with either a nano or a HI. i love the turbo tubes and the hits are crazy thick.
log vapes are my favorite way to vape so i like having both around.
blankrider
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I think the nano is more of a power hitter than the HI but the HI is more refined. That is basically why I said I use the nano more, because most of the time I vape thru water, and sometimes I dry vape out of the nano too - don't want to make it sound like dry nano sucks. But the hits from a nano are considerably rougher from a straight stem.
That said I have been enjoying my bent joda stem with both hi and nano lately
That said I have been enjoying my bent joda stem with both hi and nano lately
mtnbike420
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Hello all first post here. I just picked up a used hi and super stoked to try it out. My current setup is a da Buddha with a d020. What is everyone's favorite water setup? I'd like some recommendations for some cheap glass and adapters please. Thanks!
NickDlow
Log Hog
Check out the cheap glass thread
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cheap-high-quality-bubbler.5255/page-493#post-695883
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/cheap-high-quality-bubbler.5255/page-493#post-695883
EveryDayAmnesiac
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Haven't posted in this thread for a while, so I thought I'd give an update, because I know you're all dying to hear one from me...
My highly figured walnut glass heater cover HI continues to make me absolutely uninterested in any other plug-in vaporizer. The thing is so beautiful, so brilliantly simple, and such a treat to use dry or through water, that no other home unit appeals to me, even though there are plenty of great plug-ins available. For my style of usage, the glass HC HI could not be much more perfect. Ready whenever I need it for my one/two low-temp hits per hour, stem options up the yin-yang, simple as shit to use, low power consumption, fantastic temp control when coupled with a VK, tiny and subtle, and the sexiest little beast I've ever seen - I consider me and my HI to be a Beauty and the Beast sort of relationship. I'm Beauty - get it?
Still saving all my pennies and dimes and nickels to try to afford my next wave. Considering the ridiculously gigantic blocks of wood purchased from @Snappo (at a pretty ridiculously low price), I'm thinking it's going to be 2 HI's, 2 TT's, plenty of roasting tubes, and more... maybe a GTV by then? Considering the cost of the wood, and the extra VK, and all of Alan's work, I wouldn't be surprised if I surpass the $1,000 dollar mark, next time around. Maybe I really am fucking crazy...
For me, the waiting list is actually a good thing...
Me + HI + SSFG Gridded Inline = Heaven. I think inlines naturally pair well with the glass HI's, since they both tend to prefer a slow, lazy hit. Nice thing about my SSFG GI is that there's plenty of glass/time for the vapor to cool, every bit of water is actually used (as opposed to glass pieces where the perc is way high up and all the water underneath isn't being used), but yet flavor retention is phenomenal. I fucking love it. Probably the best (only good) part of my day is this combination.
Back in the day, I believe BigDaddyVapor made a couple videos of this pairing, though he had an SS one. Maybe I should update this "marriage" with a new video for our FC newcomers?
My highly figured walnut glass heater cover HI continues to make me absolutely uninterested in any other plug-in vaporizer. The thing is so beautiful, so brilliantly simple, and such a treat to use dry or through water, that no other home unit appeals to me, even though there are plenty of great plug-ins available. For my style of usage, the glass HC HI could not be much more perfect. Ready whenever I need it for my one/two low-temp hits per hour, stem options up the yin-yang, simple as shit to use, low power consumption, fantastic temp control when coupled with a VK, tiny and subtle, and the sexiest little beast I've ever seen - I consider me and my HI to be a Beauty and the Beast sort of relationship. I'm Beauty - get it?
Still saving all my pennies and dimes and nickels to try to afford my next wave. Considering the ridiculously gigantic blocks of wood purchased from @Snappo (at a pretty ridiculously low price), I'm thinking it's going to be 2 HI's, 2 TT's, plenty of roasting tubes, and more... maybe a GTV by then? Considering the cost of the wood, and the extra VK, and all of Alan's work, I wouldn't be surprised if I surpass the $1,000 dollar mark, next time around. Maybe I really am fucking crazy...
For me, the waiting list is actually a good thing...
Me + HI + SSFG Gridded Inline = Heaven. I think inlines naturally pair well with the glass HI's, since they both tend to prefer a slow, lazy hit. Nice thing about my SSFG GI is that there's plenty of glass/time for the vapor to cool, every bit of water is actually used (as opposed to glass pieces where the perc is way high up and all the water underneath isn't being used), but yet flavor retention is phenomenal. I fucking love it. Probably the best (only good) part of my day is this combination.
Back in the day, I believe BigDaddyVapor made a couple videos of this pairing, though he had an SS one. Maybe I should update this "marriage" with a new video for our FC newcomers?
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chimpybits
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I too am curious as to opinions on what type of piece pairs particularly well with the HI. Though this is idle curiosity for me as I'm still w/o HI.
My initial instinct is a tall, narrow dewaar jointed piece with modest water volume - like this:
EDIT. I found on YT BDV's HI+Soulshine Family Glass (SSFG) Gridded Inline Bubbler w/ Mini Inline AC/Perc:
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EveryDayAmnesiac
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Nice quoting! I had forgotten about BDV's love of his Dirty Rico. Sure do miss that guy around here. If you got the coinage, it looks as though that piece would be perfect for either style of HI cores.
Although cheap China glass seems to be all the rage.... I would still only buy American glass. In fact, I haven't bought any non-North Carolina glass in a long time.... keep it local, right?
Good post, sir.
EDIT: Although I should point out that my gridded inline is the full piece, not the bubbler style shown in the video. Still looks pretty perfect, though.
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Chicken Charlie
MicroDose Cognoscente
I couldn't agree more. Thank-you for your reflection. The glass core concurrent with any of Snappo's inventory is both a beautiful and precision instrument. A question (if I may)...What are your preferences with roasting tubes?Haven't posted in this thread for a while, so I thought I'd give an update, because I know you're all dying to hear one from me...
My highly figured walnut glass heater cover HI continues to make me absolutely uninterested in any other plug-in vaporizer. The thing is so beautiful, so brilliantly simple, and such a treat to use dry or through water, that no other home unit appeals to me, even though there are plenty of great plug-ins available. For my style of usage, the glass HC HI could not be much more perfect. Ready whenever I need it for my one/two low-temp hits per hour, stem options up the yin-yang, simple as shit to use, low power consumption, fantastic temp control when coupled with a VK, tiny and subtle, and the sexiest little beast I've ever seen - I consider me and my HI to be a Beauty and the Beast sort of relationship. I'm Beauty - get it?
Still saving all my pennies and dimes and nickels to try to afford my next wave. Considering the ridiculously gigantic blocks of wood purchased from @Snappo (at a pretty ridiculously low price), I'm thinking it's going to be 2 HI's, 2 TT's, plenty of roasting tubes, and more... maybe a GTV by then? Considering the cost of the wood, and the extra VK, and all of Alan's work, I wouldn't be surprised if I surpass the $1,000 dollar mark, next time around. Maybe I really am fucking crazy...
For me, the waiting list is actually a good thing...
Me + HI + SSFG Gridded Inline = Heaven. I think inlines naturally pair well with the glass HI's, since they both tend to prefer a slow, lazy hit. Nice thing about my SSFG GI is that there's plenty of glass/time for the vapor to cool, every bit of water is actually used (as opposed to glass pieces where the perc is way high up and all the water underneath isn't being used), but yet flavor retention is phenomenal. I fucking love it. Probably the best (only good) part of my day is this combination.
Back in the day, I believe BigDaddyVapor made a couple videos of this pairing, though he had an SS one. Maybe I should update this "marriage" with a new video for our FC newcomers?
Thanks
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mtnbike420
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Thanks for the link, thats a really nice setup. Is that the u adapter he is using from hi?
I broke a really nice jerome baker mothership in the late nineties and I swore then ill never buy expensive glass again. I'm going to pick up a sidecar gb-187 when its released next week.
I broke a really nice jerome baker mothership in the late nineties and I swore then ill never buy expensive glass again. I'm going to pick up a sidecar gb-187 when its released next week.
EveryDayAmnesiac
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I'm a glass-or-wood only sort of guy, so my favorite is actually the simple 14mm GonG with my SSFG GI, or their travel tube, or their small recycler. After that, of my 8 all-wooden roasting tubes, I'd say the Osage Orange is my favorite. To my taste buds, it has a very light, almost fruity but not really, flavor to it. IME, the lighter the color of the wood, the lighter the flavor it imparts. The WCT works great for dry hits.
Nugg
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Just sittin over here waiting my turn like a dog waiting for his owner to come home
Only like left 3-4 months i think. Should fly right by. Yeah right.
I feel ya bro! Every time I think I might be up some one else who has waited longer than me pops up and says something.
I know how excited my dog gets when I get home. I'll be waggin my tail and stamping my paws just like her when my HI comes lol
Vapor Loop
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10 months down here. I know I'm going for the hybrid not % 100 on the wood tho, I'm really leaning towards york gum burl, does anyone here have one in that wood? If so does it wear quicker or get hotter than say cocobolo or bocote?
chimpybits
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u bwade wunner
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Yes,Second from left in the pic
York gum burl is one of my favourite pieces,I got mine shipped from here,prompt service if you are after natives without paying mail fee from here and customs.I recommend YGBurl as a wood.choice.Its dense like coco bolo & holds it shine and needs little attention.Have a look at forum regular @Snappo s wood too.sublime stuff.Youre log wood does not wear at all .it just acts as a heat shield for the heater and because of the density York gum or cocobolo is less likely to dent if dropped.its got a plastic out of a mold feel to it that I like.
I also have some amboyna burl with paler shades and that doesn't t hold its shine so well.its nicely figured but looks like a broom handle.
My piece of York gum looks rich.wood will darken with heat over time.the current versions crack less than the older HIs,aroma zaps and purple days because Mr.Toasty has left more air space around the heater,which means far less stress on the wood.I think one of the early issues with the first version of the HI was it got too hot for some folks.never an issue here.I use my red heart HI body as a hot massage roller on sore tired muscles when needed.Works well and then Plug her back in and thank the big chief.
best of luck
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u bwade wunner
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I've just been writing about cracking.
Where is it cracked?.....at the bottom?
Any pics?
Scott A
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Nah more in the middle and at the top. Ill try to get some pics some time. They arnt deep enough that you can see day light through or anything yet.
Scott A
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Yeah about once a month I user underbutter on it.