The Herbalizer

[goatgobaahh]

I've had the plastic around my magnetic bowl crack within 7 months.

I've also heard of magnets becoming loose. I currently have to send my unit in due to the first issue. The magnet is becoming loose too.

Also the oil broke my aroma therapy pad holding area. So I'm kind fucked there. Everywhere else the unit has been hands down the best vape I've ever had.

I recently got an evo, while I love it too. I can safely say the herbie keeps the crown. Idk but to me hitting the herbie at 445 and hitting a heat soaked Evo the herbie makes me cough less and delivers a better quality vapor.

It's all opinion though just keep that in mind.

 

[eddiezheadiez]

I've had the plastic around my magnetic bowl crack within 7 months.

I've also heard of magnets becoming loose. I currently have to send my unit in due to the first issue. The magnet is becoming loose too.

Also the oil broke my aroma therapy pad holding area. So I'm kind fucked there. Everywhere else the unit has been hands down the best vape I've ever had.

I recently got an evo, while I love it too. I can safely say the herbie keeps the crown. Idk but to me hitting the herbie at 445 and hitting a heat soaked Evo the herbie makes me cough less and delivers a better quality vapor.

It's all opinion though just keep that in mind.

I totally agree. I sold my Evo to get an herbie. I can get MASSIVE hits with fan assist. Sometimes me and my girlfriend will just take two big hits each and be done for a while. It's insane how quick an herbie sesh can be.

edit: my herbie just told me to "grab life by the herbs"

 

[goatgobaahh]

Preheat the bowl with the fan
Use the fan+Brush to keep the screens clean
I actually put an additional screen over the load.(keeps the top screen cleaner)
and blast off.

Thing makes clouds equal to the Evo if not greater. It's all about how you're hitting it. I also found that a bowl lasts a long longer and puts out more vapor than an Evo. Evo is 1-4 hits.

Herbie is easily 3-15+. Two bowls has always taken care of me. Gets me in the right zone.

 

[A1FBG]

Preheat the bowl with the fan
Use the fan+Brush to keep the screens clean
I actually put an additional screen over the load.(keeps the top screen cleaner)
and blast off.

Thing makes clouds equal to the Evo if not greater. It's all about how you're hitting it. I also found that a bowl lasts a long longer and puts out more vapor than an Evo. Evo is 1-4 hits.

Herbie is easily 3-15+. Two bowls has always taken care of me. Gets me in the right zone.

Damn .. this makes me so sad i sold mine

 

[Vicki]

Damn .. this makes me so sad i sold mine

You could always just buy another one.

 

[stickstones]

my herbie just told me to "grab life by the herbs"

Priceless quote! fuck yeah!

You could always just buy another one.

I couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[Winegums]

I'm more than happy with my Herbie. It's still cranking out vapour like the day I received it.

I recently brought it over to a friend's place for our weekly gaming night and they loved it. Most were surprised how wrecked it got them haha. They didn't realize that vapour hits harder than smoking.

 

[A1FBG]

You could always just buy another one.

Im 99% sure I'm going with the Sublimator next. Its super quick extraction and potent hits are just a few of the things that persuade me towards it. Feels like those things fit my needs more as my high tolerance is an issue for me almost everyday..

I love the temp control of the herbalizer. But the whip+bag options just don't do it justice, you can't take those fat vapor rips. The herbalizer seems like more of a true medical device tho. Heats up almost instantly, and exact temp control for different effects/needs at certain times is A+. The whip and bags are very comfortable but like i said just not the best delivery method. Its fan assist is a plus also.

If theres anyone that can persuade me to buy another herbie instead tho go right ahead

 

[goatgobaahh]

It looks like you have your mind all made up! Just be careful with all the nick knacks and doo dads that could burn your house down.

I mean I get the milkiest of hits from my Herbie.

Glass and Milkshot Video Thread

I thought I combusted in the video keep in mind that's a 16 inch piece on a bub the vapor becomes more dense.(IMO smaller space)

 

[John Lewus]

I love my Herbalizer. Even after a year I figured out a new trick to even out the hit consistency and to keep the vapor super smooth on my lungs. I have found that somewhere between 365 and 385 for herb is the highest temp for me for producing that slightly blue vapor that dissipates quickly. It depends on the herb dryness and type of herb for picking the temp. If I go higher I think there are small amounts of combustion (not catch on fire combustion) because rather than dissipating quickly like vapor it would kind of hang around a bit longer like smoke. These are the clouds that other people (not me) chase and are also what makes me cough harder.

I have found when I blow balloons that it takes awhile for the vapor to really get going. My new trick which seems sooooo obvious in hindsight is to start at 420 or higher blowing up the balloon and then after a few seconds or a bit more start backing the temperature down and eventually end at 375. I noticed that even at high temps the first hit is still very smooth but high temps on later hits with dryer herb produce a more smokey hit that is harder on me.

I do the same trick with a whip or hydratube. I start up with a higher temp and then back it down. It has been an interesting experiment to get super smooth hits throughout my session. This technique is not for cloud chasers. It is for people like me with sensitive lungs who want to have an even consistent hit even as the herb gets dryer and dryer (more smokey) after each hit.

This is a technique that I only think can work with a herbalizer. I can't imagine any other vape that can back down the temperature as quickly as the herbie can.

 

[Winegums]

I love my Herbalizer. Even after a year I figured out a new trick to even out the hit consistency and to keep the vapor super smooth on my lungs. I have found that somewhere between 365 and 385 for herb is the highest temp for me for producing that slightly blue vapor that dissipates quickly. It depends on the herb dryness and type of herb for picking the temp. If I go higher I think there are small amounts of combustion (not catch on fire combustion) because rather than dissipating quickly like vapor it would kind of hang around a bit longer like smoke. These are the clouds that other people (not me) chase and are also what makes me cough harder.

I have found when I blow balloons that it takes awhile for the vapor to really get going. My new trick which seems sooooo obvious in hindsight is to start at 420 or higher blowing up the balloon and then after a few seconds or a bit more start backing the temperature down and eventually end at 375. I noticed that even at high temps the first hit is still very smooth but high temps on later hits with dryer herb produce a more smokey hit that is harder on me.

I do the same trick with a whip or hydratube. I start up with a higher temp and then back it down. It has been an interesting experiment to get super smooth hits throughout my session. This technique is not for cloud chasers. It is for people like me with sensitive lungs who want to have an even consistent hit even as the herb gets dryer and dryer (more smokey) after each hit.

This is a technique that I only think can work with a herbalizer. I can't imagine any other vape that can back down the temperature as quickly as the herbie can.

It would be really nice to be able to program a heat cycle for a balloon so you didn't have to manually adjust.

It wouldn't be terribly hard to do considering the Herbie already has everything needed on board.

 

[John Lewus]

It would be really nice to be able to program a heat cycle for a balloon so you didn't have to manually adjust.

It wouldn't be terribly hard to do considering the Herbie already has everything needed on board.

I wish there was a lot more control over aspects of the Herbalizer. I would like at least a remote control for a second version. I would want to customize the heat cycle as well. Start temp.. Stop temp.. drop down rate... Your herb will always have different moisture content.

 

[virtualpurple]

I would just like to be able to do calibration for the machine at home.

 

[stickstones]

It would be really nice to be able to program a heat cycle for a balloon so you didn't have to manually adjust.

It wouldn't be terribly hard to do considering the Herbie already has everything needed on board.

That would be sweet...it could be as complicated as cooking brown rice. Imagine the different discoveries...

 

[CrazyCannuck]

Ok, just finished reading the entire thread(although I did skip most of the bag talk, not my cup of tea and yes I have tried them). I did give up and purchase a Herbie about a week ago(was at Page 150 or so) but I thought I should continue till the end

As most have stated this device is terrific! This is my very first desktop device and I could not be more pleased. I am still experimenting with different temps and techniques but I am always amazed with how fast you can start and complete a session.

I really have no complaints at all, the lid not closing does not bother me. Really the only quibble I have is with the whip. I used it about 7 or 8 times, both with and without water and man does this whip ever start to smell fast. Even after numerous cleanings(ISO and hot water/soap) it still stinks, not as bad but still pretty stinky. I have put it away in some sealed up freezer bags. Now I did read a few posts about smell, perhaps it may be the whip and storing it with the device causing this? Anyway I am now using some of the SSV tubing that many users recommended along with the little trick that @lazylathe came up with using the 14/8 reducer and a small piece of tubing.

I think it is time for a little Herbie action! Happy Sunday all

 

[MinnBobber]

? Anyway I am now using some of the SSV tubing that many users recommended along with the little trick that @lazylathe came up with using the 14/8 reducer and a small piece of tubing.

I cannot seem to find this post, what page/ post# please?
Thanks

 

[CrazyCannuck]

I could not find the exact post but I found a reference to it here about halfway down the page
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-herbalizer.9116/page-227#post-740860

I also made a mistake in my post, it was @lazylightning with the wonderful suggestion, my bad.

From what @lazylightning said. I cut a small piece of silicone tubing I had laying around, believe it was 5/16 high temp stuff from PV. You only need about 1/4 inch or so. Slide that over the top of the Herbie bowl where the whip goes and then jam a 18/14 reducer over top of this and twist. I get a great seal and can use any WT I like.

 

[mixchu69]

I like the idea. Has anyone created a glass adapter for the herbie bowl for hydratubes? I know ratchet made the silicone but want something sturdier. I asked Oregon glass on this site and he needs measurements of the herbie bowl. Do you think it is a good idea?

 

[John Lewus]

I like the idea. Has anyone created a glass adapter for the herbie bowl for hydratubes? I know ratchet made the silicone but want something sturdier. I asked Oregon glass on this site and he needs measurements of the herbie bowl. Do you think it is a good idea?

I have. I use this Magic flight adapter and some fun tac to hold it on. It works surprisingly well. I also have Ratchet's adapter because it is easier to get on and off but it is not as sturdy as the glass. I would not trust letting a hydratube sit on top but with the magic flight adapter I do all the time.

Here is a pic of my setup with the magic flight adapter. It is a bit hard to see because I have another adapter on it which also happens to be custom made by Mike from Oregon Glass Blower. I would love to see whatever Mike can come up with if you order something custom from him.

EDIT: Link to magic flight http://www.puffitup.com/Magic-Flight-14mm-to-18mm-Adapter-p/magicflight14m18mmadapter.htm

 

[Vapodudule]

More simple is a 18/14 reducer and a bit of silicone tube squeezed in between. Sturdy and simple as f*ck.

Anyway #69 is still rocking on a 220V/50hz current supply through a 800W stepper.

 

[mixchu69]

I have. I use this Magic flight adapter and some fun tac to hold it on. It works surprisingly well. I also have Ratchet's adapter because it is easier to get on and off but it is not as sturdy as the glass. I would not trust letting a hydratube sit on top but with the magic flight adapter I do all the time.

Here is a pic of my setup with the magic flight adapter. It is a bit hard to see because I have another adapter on it which also happens to be custom made by Mike from Oregon Glass Blower. I would love to see whatever Mike can come up with if you order something custom from him.

EDIT: Link to magic flight http://www.puffitup.com/Magic-Flight-14mm-to-18mm-Adapter-p/magicflight14m18mmadapter.htm

Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[MinnBobber]

Thanks for the suggestion.

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I don't like leaning over this setup. I want the mouthpiece to "come to me".

Here's a temp version I sent to @Ratchett to craft a silicon stopper which would fit in the top of the HT and have an 18 mm male nipple.
Then you'd attach an @Oregonglassblower glass mouthpiece like pictured below, to make it much more user freindly.

Anyone else want their hydratube to have a real mouthpiece???

 

[nigel]

Can you use ISO to clean the whip? I don't have a Herbie but I have the whip that I'm using with another vaporizer.

This has partially been answered (although there might be a difference in materials if you are using another model), but be aware that the whip is semi-permiable to ISO and you really want to ensure it is more than dry. From the look on Sheila's face when tried to use a freshly clean (but looked dry) whip, it is not a pleasant taste...

It would be really nice to be able to program a heat cycle for a balloon so you didn't have to manually adjust.

I have a vape that has programable heat on it. Though it was a fantastic idea. After the novelty wore off, I never used it.

Perhaps with a bag, that might make more sense than with draw, but outside of the aforementioned case (which would be a small % of normal uses), are there other conditions where you would want a "multi-temp bag"? My impression is most people fill at their fav temp(s), which might vary throughout the day/needs/whatever, but never really intentionally within the same bag.

I'll pass that idea along though...

I would just like to be able to do calibration for the machine at home.

Hmm.... might be some liability issues there. Plus most people wouldn't have the equipment to accurately test the unit anyway.

Ok, just finished reading the entire thread(although I did skip most of the bag talk, not my cup of tea and yes I have tried them).

Gold star for reading the whole thread before posting.

Did you try specifically the Herbie bags, or did you just try bags randomly over at a friend's house that had them? Reason why I ask is I had only tried bags on other people's units. This, therefore, was somewhat sporadic and no where near exhaustive testing. I wasn't big on the whole bag thing. Then I got my Herbie and used both bag and whip as I was learning it. Now I almost exclusively use bags.

So, it might be worth a second look if you haven't had a lot of chance to play with them.

 

[John Lewus]

This has partially been answered (although there might be a difference in materials if you are using another model), but be aware that the whip is semi-permiable to ISO and you really want to ensure it is more than dry. From the look on Sheila's face when tried to use a freshly clean (but looked dry) whip, it is not a pleasant taste...





I have a vape that has programable heat on it. Though it was a fantastic idea. After the novelty wore off, I never used it.

Perhaps with a bag, that might make more sense than with draw, but outside of the aforementioned case (which would be a small % of normal uses), are there other conditions where you would want a "multi-temp bag"? My impression is most people fill at their fav temp(s), which might vary throughout the day/needs/whatever, but never really intentionally within the same bag.

I'll pass that idea along though...

With a precision controlled device like the Herbalizer you don't get quite the same radiant heat build up and most of the extraction is through convection vs conduction. I have found with the Herbalizer that the first hit or two is never quite as strong as other vapes because you don't have a lot of heat soaked metal or glass providing that initial higher temp first draw. It often takes me until my 3rd hit to start seeing clouds. When using a bag I find that the first 10 seconds or so is a weaker hit until it really starts to extract at your desired temp. I have found that around 375 degrees is where I get my tastiest blue vapor hits that quickly dissipate. However, it takes at least one good hit before the vapor really starts producing at 375. If your herb is a bit moist it takes two good hits before vapor really starts to produce. A lot of people in this forum complain that the Herbalizer often does not produce as big of a cloud as say an EVO and I think that is because your hit is mostly convection so if you start with a cold bowl it does take time to heat up. If I do a second bowl right after the first and my bowl is still hot then that first hit is usually stronger than when starting with a cold bowl. Because of these observations I have found that if I start at a temperature 30 to 4o degrees higher than what I want to vape at then the first 5 to 10 seconds I get a hit that is very tasty yet still strong like a typical 3rd hit at the desired temp. I then back down the temp of my herbalizer to keep consistency in the strength of the hit. Hits over 400 start to quickly get harsh on me but the a first hit at 425 and second hit at 385 is much smoother.

This is why I think having programmable heat over time would be a nice addition to bags. I am still experimenting to figure out what temp to start at and when and at what rate to start lowering the temp as the bag fills to find the optimal experience. Type of herb and moistness all play into this as well.

 

[stickstones]

I've heard enough of this thing not white-walling a bubbler! Here's how I do it, and it's damn near full proof, unless you put cheap herbs in there.

Load a whole nug, and make sure it at least comes up to the flare.
Turn the heat all the way up and hit it two or three times.
Open the bowl, flip the nug and give it another hit.
Then open it out, dump the nugget into your palm and crumble it up with your fingers.
Now put it all back in the bowl. It may fill it all the way up...that's okay.
The first hit will start to white-wall about half way through.
Clear the bubbler, stop choking and hit it a second time.
This will be the money shot.
Depending on your herbs, you can get three to five full on white-wall pulls out of it before it starts to slow down.

Enjoy!