Been Vapin
Fringe Class
Clean your bowl out completely.
When the bag is filling, straighten out the bag, so it sits completely vertical. If there is a kink in the bag that will cause a leak. Are you using 445°F temp?
The Herbalizer
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Clean your bowl out completely.
When the bag is filling, straighten out the bag, so it sits completely vertical. If there is a kink in the bag that will cause a leak. Are you using 445°F temp?
Ok So I tried everything ... After I cleaned it, and I held the solid valve down, it did leak less.
But I found the only leak free solution ... DONT USE a herbalizer bowl at all. The volcano solid valve filling chamber fits PERFECTLY over the herbie fan.
I am worried about one thing though, the bottom of the volcano filling chamber. It doesn't get very hot, but what if it does heat up a bit? Do you think there would be some bad effects?
I am guessing it gets a little hot when used with the volcano too... I haven't tried
It looks like this
You can fill a bag and walk away now, it works like a volcano but with all of the benefits of a herbie!
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
Can you answer my previous questions about where the leaks occur with the Herbie bags?
John Lewus
Well-Known Member
I am really considering purchasing a Volcano bag solution to use with my Herbie. Is it worth it for those that have it? What other accessories do I need or do I do like what Highland suggested?
My phone only had one percent left in battery and I had to go.. I'll shoot a longer one, but you can see a small leak in this video at the end, hard to see where it comes from
This next video is just the volcano filling chamber and no Herbie bowl at all
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stickstones
Vapor concierge
What about with the Herbie bags? I'm not going to be much help with the Volcano bags.
That second video looked perfect!
That second video looked perfect!
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I feel so lost without my Herbie. I am used to the fast relief it provides, and truly miss it. I don't think I could ever go without owning an Herbie. I love my back up vaporizers, but they don't cut it as my main go to vaporizer, especially when I am severely nauseated. I hope I hear back from Herbalizer early next week.
I've been without my Herbie for 11 days so far, and yes, I am a whiner.
I've been without my Herbie for 11 days so far, and yes, I am a whiner.
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My previous message about using the volcano filling chamber actually doesn't work so well the vapor leaks out from the slits in the valve this is a picture
The best method is the one you guys mentioned before where you just press down with the valve on top of the Herbie bowl
The best method is the one you guys mentioned before where you just press down with the valve on top of the Herbie bowl
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
If you enjoy bags and use them then it is worth buying the solid valve. It offers better taste, cooling, less leaks, stainless airpath vs "the prong", easy to customize, proven build quality, etc. The vapor has a different mouth feel then the SqueezeValve.
All one needs is the mouthpiece and solid valve. The filling chamber is not necessary.
I am done using SqueezeValves. The solid valve is around $100. One member reported going through 16 SqueezeValve s already.
My previous message about using the volcano filling chamber actually doesn't work so well the vapor leaks out from the slits in the valve this is a picture
The best method is the one you guys mentioned before where you just press down with the valve on top of the Herbie bowl
The slits do not go through all the way. They allow the solid valve to flex and be movable. Take a flashlight and look in them.
I can see and tell where your problem is with the solid valve. Your bag/valve connection is not good. I can tell by that oring being visible. Thay oring should be under the plastic clip. Go to Volcano forum, use yoir users manual to educate yourself on the proper way to seal and maintain your solid valve .
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I don't see the o ring in my picture....?
Can you post a picture of what it is supposed to look like?
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
I'm wrong. Mine has an actual k clip. I mistook the top of the updated clip as an oring. Do a bag change or readjust your seal and it should be good. The problem is your bag to valve connection. If you slide off the clip there should be a black oring with the bag folded over it.
I am loving using the volcano filling chamber... I find it fills the bags up with much thicker smoke... Why might this be?
Simply because it can hold more? I'm not sure though, because it really doesn't feel like I'm putting much more.
Or maybe because of the volxano "plunger" pressing down on the load?
Simply because it can hold more? I'm not sure though, because it really doesn't feel like I'm putting much more.
Or maybe because of the volxano "plunger" pressing down on the load?
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I don't know, but that sucks you are getting smoke!
mmafighterthe25
Well-Known Member
Nice think I need get Volcano soild valve set
Modnote: Back to back posts merged.
Just bought soild valve kit from vape world. Com. So hopefully be better
Modnote: Back to back posts merged.
Just bought soild valve kit from vape world. Com. So hopefully be better
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You're gonna love it... I no longer use the Herbie filling chamber... Just the volcano filling chamber,mouthpiece and valve. No leaks at all! Won't fall over because it sits there perfectly. Fills up bags wayyyyyy quicker
No need for a herbie bowl!!
And @stickstones I meant vapor ! Lol
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John Lewus
Well-Known Member
I am probably going to buy the volcano solid valve as well. How does the herbie blowing balloons compare to the volcano? Maybe I should just buy a volcano.... Just joking... Well kind of.
Things I'm interested in moving include
1. Does herbie bowl blow up balloons as fast?
2. Is taste affected? My arizer eq never tasted as good as herbie due to ceramic heater I think.
3. Is herbie more or less efficient as volcano?
I had a nodded bag setup using arizer eq bowl and a huge bag. It took the herbie 3 fans to blow up that bag and despite a fairly full bowl the herb was quite brown. Also it did not taste as strong although when I finished the whole bag I was pretty Medicated. I think there is a limit to the size of the bags.
I had five people over this weekend and it was hard to have the herbie keep up and then the bag started leaking.
On another note does anyone have any good tips for passing around a whip without spreading germs everywhere? Is there an easy way to change tips or otherwise sanitize the herbie whip?
Things I'm interested in moving include
1. Does herbie bowl blow up balloons as fast?
2. Is taste affected? My arizer eq never tasted as good as herbie due to ceramic heater I think.
3. Is herbie more or less efficient as volcano?
I had a nodded bag setup using arizer eq bowl and a huge bag. It took the herbie 3 fans to blow up that bag and despite a fairly full bowl the herb was quite brown. Also it did not taste as strong although when I finished the whole bag I was pretty Medicated. I think there is a limit to the size of the bags.
I had five people over this weekend and it was hard to have the herbie keep up and then the bag started leaking.
On another note does anyone have any good tips for passing around a whip without spreading germs everywhere? Is there an easy way to change tips or otherwise sanitize the herbie whip?
John Lewus
Well-Known Member
I know the volcano is stronger but I care about how clean and pure the heated air is. The herbalizer with halogen bulb is really smooth for me. The arizer eq is not.
How long does a volcano bag take to fill on a herbie as compared to only 30 seconds on the volcano.
Finally, would the solid valve starter kit be a good way to go or am I buying things I don't need?
45 seconds - 1 minute to fill a bag with a herbalizer using a herbalizer bag.
If you like blowing bags, I'd definitely get the solid valve.
In a group setting, using the volcano filling chamber INSTEAD of the Herbie filling chamber is the way to go... You can blow big or small bags with thick vapor
When using a volcano filling chamber (no herbie bowl at all) I find that it holds more, and blows thicker vapor, and fills a bag more quickly (maybe because the herbie filling chamber is more restricted)
I'd get a herbie (if you asked me a week ago I would have traded my herbie for a volcano) the solid valve changed my experience completely
If you like blowing bags, I'd definitely get the solid valve.
In a group setting, using the volcano filling chamber INSTEAD of the Herbie filling chamber is the way to go... You can blow big or small bags with thick vapor
When using a volcano filling chamber (no herbie bowl at all) I find that it holds more, and blows thicker vapor, and fills a bag more quickly (maybe because the herbie filling chamber is more restricted)
I'd get a herbie (if you asked me a week ago I would have traded my herbie for a volcano) the solid valve changed my experience completely
Yes more produc equals more vapor
That's why I said, in a group setting, use the volcano filling chamber ...
It holds more
Produces thicker bags... Faster
When I'm alone at home, I just use the herbalizer filling chamber with the solid valve
mmafighterthe25
Well-Known Member
I also find silver surfer tubing over the bowl is a way better whip. Massive hits compared to that thin silicon tube.
mixchu69
Well-Known Member
I forgot which thread I read this on but the member stated that he likes the herbie better than enails and the evo for concentrate use. Is it because of instant spee to your temperature? It is hard for me to imagine How it can be better than an enail for concentrates.
rogerrabbit
Active Member
I am posting this for my buddy Mikero since he's on vacation and I had to edit his video that goes with this post >(.
Hello all,
It's been awhile since I last posted. When I first got my herbie I was extremely underwhelmed, if you remember my posts. I was very annoyed at the fact I had to constantly clean the top screen(which is extremely annoying for the price we paid), and that my clouds were weak, super weak. Due to advice from people like @stickstones who said to clean the top scren each time, and make sure the bud is super dry. I tried airing out my bud but it still stuck a lot, due to it being sticky in nature; however it stuck less so I felt it was working better. I was originally using bags, and I never had used bags before as my main. I had an Extreme 3, and I used the whip, as that was what I was used to as I had used a Vapor Bros with my roomates(one of theirs) for the semester. The Herbie whip was good, but I had cut the whip in half to use with glass, but the glass' vapor production was pretty bad.. As I believe stickstones also mentioned I should "adjust my expectation."
Well, I decided that I could accept that, or I could try to make the bowl better, to suit my needs, and help out everyone adjust their bowl to the same experience. Guess which one I took?
Well ladies and gents, I have found a new method to not only create super thick, tasty clouds at a far range of temps, but I also ELIMINATE THE NEED TO CLEAN the top screen, as well as GET RID OF THE TOP SCREEN (**For Advanced Users, will explain below).
Basically attached is a video I took for my first session of the day, which shows a few things.
1. A tiny packed bud bowl at 390 (I believe this was my 3rd hit, but maybe not), which you can see is nice and thick.
2. I show how to pack the bowl, as well as me adding some hash oil to the mix (NO MORE STUPID AROMA PAD)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. Bud+Oil at 420 = super clouds.
So what exactly am I doing to make my bowl so amazing?
Well basically I figured that the reason the top screen is getting filled with bud is because it's spinning like a dryer; however, the air from this "dryer" is being sucked up, and all of the "lint" is being caught in the screen where the air passing through. In our case it's basically a bunch of tiny bud particles, kief, plant matter, etc, clogging it up, followed by a bunch of bud. At the end of our bowl it's just the former, without the bud. WE have to clean that crap, and TBH I was torching my screen once or twice a day, it was very annoying, again, for what we paid.
So I came across this method after doing some oil with the oil screen and it getting my bowl and screens all dirty. I started sandwhiching the bud in between 2 screens. This way we don't have the "dryer effect" going on, and instead we have all of our bud in one place, with air passing through all of it, without ANY of it getting clogged up. When I started doing it, I would just try to put the screen down, and have it stick to what was most likely the oil still in the bowl; however sometimes the screen would not stay down, and would pop open, thus causing the dryer effect and instantly my hit would dwindle, and I would get mad
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HOWEVER, at one point I realize that I was always having the screen stuck in part of the bowl, but the other part was not, thus it would popped. I realized at this point, that I could sandwhich both screen within the slot meant for the bottom screen, thus having the screen completely in place. I learned the first techique out after about 2 weeks of owning the Herbie, and it took about another week to figure out this fully secure method, which at this point which was probably 2-3 weeks ago. Now for the last 3 weeks or so I have been able to vape without having the screen pop, and I have been able to remove the top screen fully because I feel it's secure enough. I waited about 2 weeks before I thought it was okay to remove the screen, but I've had the screen out for a few weeks, so somewhere my timeline is messed up, but whatever. 1 week here, 2 weeks there, blah blah blah, you get the point.
**The reason I said to wait until you know what you're doing to remove the top screen is so you don't get blowbacks, as I said before I waited awhile before I was sure that it wouldn't blow back on me.
To be perfectly honest, I had a blowback the other night because I was rushing to pack the bowl in because my dog was bugging out to go for a walk, so I wanted to get a hit in first. I got a hit, felt it blow, and bud went everywhere. It wasn't that bad. The top area(which you can see in the video) has all stem-hash so it caught tons of bud. You can actually see part of the ring area has stem-hash, but some doesn't. Some was removed with bud. Other parts of the bud made it into the tube and through the tubing. TBH it was my rookie move because I didn't stop right away. I had a feeling it popped, but waited about a second, but that's a lot of sucking time... Also, I did an EXTREMELY rookie mistake and I was excited to take hits with a buddy on skype, packed my bowl, packed it with oil... then put the top on and took a hit. I felt something was off but I got a monster hit quick... I opened up my bowl and there was just tons of bud stuck to the top LOLOL..... The oil got stuck and made a barrier to protect the bud from going in...(THANK GOD LOL).... YEAH IT WAS BAD, I can't believe I did that... This was 2 days ago.... The blowback was 4-5, so yeah, even after 3 weeks+ I still fucked up SO BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!
Anyways now you can not only do bud, but also oil, extremely easy. I just have to laugh at how amazing 380 hash oil hits are LOL....... It sucks because my buddy tried his enail at 450 and just said it was no bueno, carb cap and all.... It's great having an enclosure to hold the vapor in. @mixchu69 just wanted to make sure you read this since you asked about it.
Hello all,
It's been awhile since I last posted. When I first got my herbie I was extremely underwhelmed, if you remember my posts. I was very annoyed at the fact I had to constantly clean the top screen(which is extremely annoying for the price we paid), and that my clouds were weak, super weak. Due to advice from people like @stickstones who said to clean the top scren each time, and make sure the bud is super dry. I tried airing out my bud but it still stuck a lot, due to it being sticky in nature; however it stuck less so I felt it was working better. I was originally using bags, and I never had used bags before as my main. I had an Extreme 3, and I used the whip, as that was what I was used to as I had used a Vapor Bros with my roomates(one of theirs) for the semester. The Herbie whip was good, but I had cut the whip in half to use with glass, but the glass' vapor production was pretty bad.. As I believe stickstones also mentioned I should "adjust my expectation."
Well, I decided that I could accept that, or I could try to make the bowl better, to suit my needs, and help out everyone adjust their bowl to the same experience. Guess which one I took?
Well ladies and gents, I have found a new method to not only create super thick, tasty clouds at a far range of temps, but I also ELIMINATE THE NEED TO CLEAN the top screen, as well as GET RID OF THE TOP SCREEN (**For Advanced Users, will explain below).
Basically attached is a video I took for my first session of the day, which shows a few things.
1. A tiny packed bud bowl at 390 (I believe this was my 3rd hit, but maybe not), which you can see is nice and thick.
2. I show how to pack the bowl, as well as me adding some hash oil to the mix (NO MORE STUPID AROMA PAD)!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
3. Bud+Oil at 420 = super clouds
. So what exactly am I doing to make my bowl so amazing?
Well basically I figured that the reason the top screen is getting filled with bud is because it's spinning like a dryer; however, the air from this "dryer" is being sucked up, and all of the "lint" is being caught in the screen where the air passing through. In our case it's basically a bunch of tiny bud particles, kief, plant matter, etc, clogging it up, followed by a bunch of bud. At the end of our bowl it's just the former, without the bud. WE have to clean that crap, and TBH I was torching my screen once or twice a day, it was very annoying, again, for what we paid.
So I came across this method after doing some oil with the oil screen and it getting my bowl and screens all dirty. I started sandwhiching the bud in between 2 screens. This way we don't have the "dryer effect" going on, and instead we have all of our bud in one place, with air passing through all of it, without ANY of it getting clogged up. When I started doing it, I would just try to put the screen down, and have it stick to what was most likely the oil still in the bowl; however sometimes the screen would not stay down, and would pop open, thus causing the dryer effect and instantly my hit would dwindle, and I would get mad
.HOWEVER, at one point I realize that I was always having the screen stuck in part of the bowl, but the other part was not, thus it would popped. I realized at this point, that I could sandwhich both screen within the slot meant for the bottom screen, thus having the screen completely in place. I learned the first techique out after about 2 weeks of owning the Herbie, and it took about another week to figure out this fully secure method, which at this point which was probably 2-3 weeks ago. Now for the last 3 weeks or so I have been able to vape without having the screen pop, and I have been able to remove the top screen fully because I feel it's secure enough. I waited about 2 weeks before I thought it was okay to remove the screen, but I've had the screen out for a few weeks, so somewhere my timeline is messed up, but whatever. 1 week here, 2 weeks there, blah blah blah, you get the point
.**The reason I said to wait until you know what you're doing to remove the top screen is so you don't get blowbacks, as I said before I waited awhile before I was sure that it wouldn't blow back on me.
To be perfectly honest, I had a blowback the other night because I was rushing to pack the bowl in because my dog was bugging out to go for a walk, so I wanted to get a hit in first. I got a hit, felt it blow, and bud went everywhere. It wasn't that bad. The top area(which you can see in the video) has all stem-hash so it caught tons of bud. You can actually see part of the ring area has stem-hash, but some doesn't. Some was removed with bud. Other parts of the bud made it into the tube and through the tubing. TBH it was my rookie move because I didn't stop right away. I had a feeling it popped, but waited about a second, but that's a lot of sucking time... Also, I did an EXTREMELY rookie mistake and I was excited to take hits with a buddy on skype, packed my bowl, packed it with oil... then put the top on and took a hit. I felt something was off but I got a monster hit quick... I opened up my bowl and there was just tons of bud stuck to the top LOLOL..... The oil got stuck and made a barrier to protect the bud from going in...(THANK GOD LOL).... YEAH IT WAS BAD, I can't believe I did that... This was 2 days ago.... The blowback was 4-5, so yeah, even after 3 weeks+ I still fucked up SO BE CAREFUL!!!!!!!!
Anyways now you can not only do bud, but also oil, extremely easy. I just have to laugh at how amazing 380 hash oil hits are LOL....... It sucks because my buddy tried his enail at 450 and just said it was no bueno, carb cap and all.... It's great having an enclosure to hold the vapor in
. @mixchu69 just wanted to make sure you read this since you asked about it.