The Herbalizer
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lazylightning
It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
Personally I'd go with the Herbie before the EVO. I bought my EVO because I wanted clouds using my glass, but I find that I get even better clouds from the MV than the EVO. Using the MV capless and inverted on a water piece is a lot like using a smaller and lighter EVO. The glass nails work okay for concentrates in the EVO but not great IME and I actually end up using Herbie for concentrates more than the EVO.
I use the EVO now mostly so I won't feel bad about having spent the $$ on it. Herbie gets plenty of use alongside my MV though. No waiting for heat up is really nice, as is the ability to dial in temps more precisely. I also very much enjoy the bag option, especially when paired with an adapter and water piece.
AspenPeeks
Vape Like a Goddess™
Hi, what does that mean/what is that for? Are you sending it back to the manufacturer?
EDIT: nvm, read back a few pages
I'm curious, has anyone had to rma their Herbie yet? If so, how was the process for you?
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AspenPeeks
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SecureSwede
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I owned an evo and will say although it CAN do concentrates it doesnt mean its great at doing them. I just did not like the whole method of the vapexhale nail and prefer a real dab or using my muad'dib. Personally I havnt used the herbie but it looks very nice. I wish they put more money into the casing of the unit so it didnt have as much plastic.
Hey,
One more question...
From what I understand, I just need the valve that connects to the bag, and the mouthpiece right?
You said one COULD use the filling chamber, if you want the bags to fill themselves (without pressing down).
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
Correct. All you need is a solid valve and a mouth piece. I have only used the Volcano filling chamber a few sessioms since that technique was discovered. All that hard Volcano plastic sitting by itself is a recipe for disaster, but it does work.
Solid valve still leaks for me, I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
I used it with the bag that came attached to it, so there couldn't be an user error in setting up the bag.
I can easily smoke bongs etc, but now my roommates can smell it again. Starting to hate this device! (Sorry)
The original whip is awful, the original bags are awful, the bowls are awful ...
Going to put mine up for sale!
I used it with the bag that came attached to it, so there couldn't be an user error in setting up the bag.
I can easily smoke bongs etc, but now my roommates can smell it again. Starting to hate this device! (Sorry)
The original whip is awful, the original bags are awful, the bowls are awful ...
Going to put mine up for sale!
stickstones
Vapor concierge
@Highland7 -- have you been using the defunk to make the room smell good when you are done?
FaceDownScutUp
Well-Known Member
@Highland7 -- Maybe look into a way to adapt your herbie to one of your glass pieces. I didn't quite fall in love with mine until I did. Might be something to try before you finish selling it.
Mulehead
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May I suggest cleaning your bowl and taking the top half to your LHS and have them help you convert to a gong, before selling it? I have a high temp silicone grommet (red in color) around the top of the output on the bowl, then an 18 mm female to 18 mm female gong snugly on that. From there I can convert to whatever I need. For bag setup, I use a 10 mm male and have never had any leakage. For whip and WT I use an 18 mm male to whip 90. Makes herbie so much more enjoyable, just watch to make sure the bowl doesn't unscrew itself.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Are you getting leaks from the bags after they are full or are you getting leaks while the bags are filling?
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
Take a LED flashlight, shine it on the solid valve when its filling and observe where it leaks from. Report back. The Volcano bag should not be leaking while filling or full.
Alright I am gonna bust out the camera and do a write up for Herbalizer bag change, but first some more bags
Got all set up to do it and can't find the proper batteries. Going to have to wait another day.
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Only while filling ... I already know the leak is coming from me pressing down on the herbalizer bowl with the solid valve... I'm even sitting when I do it, but you have to keep your hand perfectly still and it still doesn't work...
Also , it was mentioned that with the filling chamber you can fill balloons hands free ... When I did this so much smoke poured out it was unbelievable... Maybe we have different filling chambers because mine has like slits in it, the smoke came out of there.
lazylightning
It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
I second that suggestion. Below is the method and parts I used to put a GonG joint on my Herbie bowl. This also works MUCH better than out of the box for filling balloons hands-free!
@Fine Grind's post about Herbie bags inspired me to take a few photos of my setup. I really enjoy using Herbie bags with scientific glass too but I've similar troubles with the valves on the Herbie bags leaking and having to hold the bag onto the bowl while it fills.
This felt like a lot of effort to repeat over and over. I also really wanted a good way to use my HT with Herbie. I read about other user's experiments creating a GonG connection for the Herbie bowl and tried a few of my own. I finally found something that worked really well.
I took some SSV whip tubing and cut a 1/4" slice of it off. I ran the slice of tubing under hot water and stretched and forced it over the Herbie bowl.
Then I slid a 18mm to 14mm reducer over the top of the bowl, using the SSV whip slice as a gasket for a tight seal. I just twist the adapter tightly onto the bowl.
Now I have a 18mm male connector attached to the top of both my Herbie bowls and can use GonG connectors for everything. I have an 18mm female whip adapter that fits over the Herbie bowl so I can use it with whip too.
For bags, I use an 18mm female to 14mm female adapter.
Then I take a 14mm whip adapter...
...and pop it right up into the valve of the Herbie bag.
I've had no leaking at all with this method during filling. The combined height of the 3 adapters also lifts the bag so it can rest on the opened top of Herbie while it fills.
I never need to mess with the bag as it fills. I just leave the whip adapter in the Herbie bag and pop it into any of my glass I want. I don't have to hold anything and can walk around with the bag firmly attached to my water piece with no vapor leakage.
Next step is figuring out a way to do away with valves altogether and just seal turkey bags to the 14mm whip adapter.
Been Vapin
Fringe Class
You have lost me. Are you lightly pushing down? Does your setup look like this? I am not the only one to use the Volcano valve successfully as at least one other member has reported about it. Its either user error or an equipment malfunction.
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Been Vapin
Fringe Class
I just went and cleaned out my solid valve as it has been sitting dirty and unused for many months. Filled up a bag at 385F with zero leaks (checked with 200 lumen SureFire flashlight). I could let the valve lift 1/4 an inch upwards before there was a slight leak.
2bd bag went to 445F. Again zero leaks while filling.I took the filled bag, put the mouth piece on it, and gave it a slight squeeze like I was holding a baby. A small side stream came out and only from squeezing the bag. I wouldn't try that with the SquuezeValve.
I am actually going to try to start using this again over the SqueezeValve. The solid valve offers superior cooling, taste and is probably safer than the SqueezeValve.
I am suspect of the Herbalizer bag system after 10 months of heavy testing. Not sure how safe the plastic parts in the SqueezeValve are. Maybe the SqueezeValves have a limited number of uses before they are meant to be thrown away? It almost looks like the plastics internals start to melt and warp with over use?
Take your heaviest used SqueezeValve and pull off the mouthpiece. Look at the top of the plastic teeth. How they look?
Either way I hate that fucking prong in the SqueezeValve
2bd bag went to 445F. Again zero leaks while filling.I took the filled bag, put the mouth piece on it, and gave it a slight squeeze like I was holding a baby. A small side stream came out and only from squeezing the bag. I wouldn't try that with the SquuezeValve.
I am actually going to try to start using this again over the SqueezeValve. The solid valve offers superior cooling, taste and is probably safer than the SqueezeValve.
I am suspect of the Herbalizer bag system after 10 months of heavy testing. Not sure how safe the plastic parts in the SqueezeValve are. Maybe the SqueezeValves have a limited number of uses before they are meant to be thrown away? It almost looks like the plastics internals start to melt and warp with over use?
Take your heaviest used SqueezeValve and pull off the mouthpiece. Look at the top of the plastic teeth. How they look?
Either way I hate that fucking prong in the SqueezeValve
lazylightning
It's an obsession but it's pleasin'
Here's a little video of the GonG Herbie bag filling system I'm using. There's never any leaking of vapor and no need to hold the bag as it fills.
When the bag is full, you can use the 14mm GonG joint sticking out of the bag in your water piece or just pop it out and use the valve as usual.
When the bag is full, you can use the 14mm GonG joint sticking out of the bag in your water piece or just pop it out and use the valve as usual.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
@Highland7 - if you hang in there I'm sure we'll get you going.
I've just tried so many different things...
I do enjoy using the herbie with glass and the ssv whip, nice milky hits for sure
But I haven't gotten bags to not leak. I tried using the ssv whip between the herbie and the bag, no luck after a while.
I've now tried a solid valve, and really I can't beleive you guys say it doesn't leak, I'm dumbfounded
This afternoon I literally smoke FOUR bags back to back to test the solid valve. So frustrating it's not even enjoyable.
My bowl is dirty - but the leaks aren't coming from the sides of the bowl, they are coming from me holding it
Have they changed the solid valver recently... Mine literally has no chance with the filling chamber... Smoke pours out.
Will make videos tomorrow - hopefully I dont get evicted trying to make them
I do enjoy using the herbie with glass and the ssv whip, nice milky hits for sure
But I haven't gotten bags to not leak. I tried using the ssv whip between the herbie and the bag, no luck after a while.
I've now tried a solid valve, and really I can't beleive you guys say it doesn't leak, I'm dumbfounded
This afternoon I literally smoke FOUR bags back to back to test the solid valve. So frustrating it's not even enjoyable.
My bowl is dirty - but the leaks aren't coming from the sides of the bowl, they are coming from me holding it
Have they changed the solid valver recently... Mine literally has no chance with the filling chamber... Smoke pours out.
Will make videos tomorrow - hopefully I dont get evicted trying to make them