paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
Improved lighting, only 2 bags but Im sure I could do 4 or more.
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FlyingLow
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@paytonpenn ~ nice setup! Glad to see you pull it together, would you share what hardware and connectors you are using?
Having only used the Hammer the last week while traveling, I was very satisfied and was able to avoid combustion during a bachelor party of smokers... may think I have converted one or two in the process as well.
Unfortunately the rubber locking seal broke on day 1, but we managed to use it anyway. I can tell the performance difference was difficult to master without a seal, and lots of butane flavor was obtained. I am thrilled to try again with the seal (now that I am home) and am pleased it is as good as before.
In spite of the setback, we got to vape all weekend!
It cannot be said enough, but my biggest and possibly only real gripe is that the stock stems look exactly like crack pipes. They really make an awful and horrible first impression on the "uninitiated." But hell, they also get the same exact reaction even when presented to seasoned and lifelong smokers.
I threw my Hammer crack pipe away this this trip and likely will only be using this device with Ed's moving forward.
Having only used the Hammer the last week while traveling, I was very satisfied and was able to avoid combustion during a bachelor party of smokers... may think I have converted one or two in the process as well.
Unfortunately the rubber locking seal broke on day 1, but we managed to use it anyway. I can tell the performance difference was difficult to master without a seal, and lots of butane flavor was obtained. I am thrilled to try again with the seal (now that I am home) and am pleased it is as good as before.
In spite of the setback, we got to vape all weekend!
It cannot be said enough, but my biggest and possibly only real gripe is that the stock stems look exactly like crack pipes. They really make an awful and horrible first impression on the "uninitiated." But hell, they also get the same exact reaction even when presented to seasoned and lifelong smokers.
I threw my Hammer crack pipe away this this trip and likely will only be using this device with Ed's moving forward.
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LuckySeed777
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The bag and hammer would be a fun thing to pass around at a kickback! Wish this was an option for hammer users. I'll have to try and make one! Thanks paytonpenn for the vids.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
Flame lock concept
Herbalizer SqueezeValve bags, I would much prefer to use the 14mm gong for the Hammer but mine broke recently.
Herbalaire HO Pump, 5/16" ID x 7/16" OD Silcon Tubing, 1/4" ID x 3/8" OD Silcon Tubing, Underdog thin tubing.
I used my Infinity base as a stand with a paperclip to hold it in place. Also a screen inside the Hammer as a just in case.
The only thing we really need is a stand, if only @Ratchett also had a Hammer.
Herbalizer SqueezeValve bags, I would much prefer to use the 14mm gong for the Hammer but mine broke recently.
Herbalaire HO Pump, 5/16" ID x 7/16" OD Silcon Tubing, 1/4" ID x 3/8" OD Silcon Tubing, Underdog thin tubing.
I used my Infinity base as a stand with a paperclip to hold it in place. Also a screen inside the Hammer as a just in case.
The only thing we really need is a stand, if only @Ratchett also had a Hammer.
@paytonpenn , you rang? ha ha (I love tagging)
If someone can sketch a basic design or show how they'd like their hammer to sit, I'm sure I could come up with a stand - it doesn't look like it'd be too hard to make a something basic (I already have a few ideas in my head)...
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
various127
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If I have the hammer, should I even be looking at logs? I feel it'd be easier, plus I hear desktops are that great. I mean the hammer's definitely doing it, but I keep looking into the logs.
I saw paytonpenns comparison video too.
I saw paytonpenns comparison video too.
FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
I find my Nano to be a bit more effective on the same amount of material; for me it provides larger but fewer pulls than my Hammer.
Temp is always right on with the log, Hammer is more of a dance to maintain the right temps, like with the lotus you balance your pull with the amount of flame, and there are more variables at play.
Temp is always right on with the log, Hammer is more of a dance to maintain the right temps, like with the lotus you balance your pull with the amount of flame, and there are more variables at play.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
I don't think logs are going to do it any more than the Hammer is, desktops are nice and convenient but aren't going to introduce something you haven't seen with Hammer except "precise" temperature control.
I personally think its about whether or not you'd actually need their convenience or if you're just being smitten with VAS.
How hot does your Hammer get? @FlyingLow
Have you increased the internal dial. I can't see why the Hammer can't provide the same vapor production besides not being up to temp.
FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
I had increased the dial, and played with the extremes of low and high temp vaping with it... The only thing I have not don't with it is concentrates.
Most of the time, including this last trip, I keep it on the higher end of the heat spectrum. After just 2-3 bowls, the whole top half of the device is HOT to the touch.
Most of the time, including this last trip, I keep it on the higher end of the heat spectrum. After just 2-3 bowls, the whole top half of the device is HOT to the touch.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
How long are your heatups.
Hi guys, i' having a little issue with my hammer, i just got it today ad i only have one butane can, when i put it in the hammer refill hole and press, the butane spread and splash pretty much everywere exept of in the hammer....
Is that normal, am i doing something wrong?
Thx for any help/advices, i only have one full butan can at home and can't use my hammer
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Is that normal, am i doing something wrong?
Thx for any help/advices, i only have one full butan can at home and can't use my hammer
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FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
Heatup times are typically about 15-25 seconds when I start, then after the 2nd bowl I typically back off to a 5+ second heat up.
FWIW, I typically use the stock crack pipe when traveling, and I use Ed's while in-town.
@yomen9 ~ Try taking a pointed tip and press the little nipple where you would ordinarily fill up. Press it in, and all the gasses and butane should purge out of the nozzle. Keep pressing the nipple down until no more gasses escape. Once completely empty, try to fill the Hammer again and see if you have better luck.
FWIW, I typically use the stock crack pipe when traveling, and I use Ed's while in-town.
@yomen9 ~ Try taking a pointed tip and press the little nipple where you would ordinarily fill up. Press it in, and all the gasses and butane should purge out of the nozzle. Keep pressing the nipple down until no more gasses escape. Once completely empty, try to fill the Hammer again and see if you have better luck.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
@yomen9 That happens with my newport can, I have to press quite hard and actually make sure its connected, its less likely to occur when purged (probably due to there not being butane inside already) but I never had the issue with my other lighters.
@FlyingLow Does your Hammer flame sputter out when the dial is too high? How fast do you inhale? How often have you combusted?
@FlyingLow Does your Hammer flame sputter out when the dial is too high? How fast do you inhale? How often have you combusted?
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FlyingLow
Team NO SLEEP!
If I click one more internal notch up, and crank the dial all the way to the top, it will sputter out. But it will not sputter out at the levels I am at and run.
I vary the draw speed depending on how its heating up. It really varies from slow to fast, depending on what kind of feedback I am getting from the heat on my tongue. Most draws are 10-15 seconds long with heat on, then continuing to pull for another few 5+ seconds.
Sure I have combusted a few times, but that is literally out of many hundreds of sessions since this past April. It is a rare occurrence that has probably happened less than 5 times since I really became accustomed to hitting it. Now if I go hard, I can sense it and back off when I am getting a charred top. So I will back down the heat until I find the sweet spot again.
I have combusted far more often with the Lotus
I get sooooo ambitious with the Lotus, but for the most part I cash those bowls in 1-1.5 draws.
I vary the draw speed depending on how its heating up. It really varies from slow to fast, depending on what kind of feedback I am getting from the heat on my tongue. Most draws are 10-15 seconds long with heat on, then continuing to pull for another few 5+ seconds.
Sure I have combusted a few times, but that is literally out of many hundreds of sessions since this past April. It is a rare occurrence that has probably happened less than 5 times since I really became accustomed to hitting it. Now if I go hard, I can sense it and back off when I am getting a charred top. So I will back down the heat until I find the sweet spot again.
I have combusted far more often with the Lotus
I get sooooo ambitious with the Lotus, but for the most part I cash those bowls in 1-1.5 draws.
paytonpenn
Level 30 Nature/Healer
You should try conduction, but I understand you don't seem to be interested in putting things inside the Hammer.
Don't forget the Hammer is killer with convection and oil.
Don't forget the Hammer is killer with convection and oil.
various127
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Yeah the sale is just so tempting and the wood selection is looking real nice.
I keep my hammer to the same if I move it up it will start blowing itself out, the gas keeps pouring out (still lit) for a second or so before going out after I take my finger off the trigger. I usually keep it all the way now to eat it up, sometimes the head will be super hot, but the vapor I get isn't too thick. I guess I'd have to heat it up longer next hit, but sometimes it'll just be super hot air or the herb will get real dark and have that taste.
My technique is probably still not the best I guess since I go through 3 loads per tank. After three some butane might will probably be left, but it's too low to heat the hammer up and finish the bowl.
Philreal187
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Few weeks ago i broke my pnp water tool so I quickly picks up the d020 since it was 30 dollars shipped and has a lot of good reviews. So I've been using the hammer with it and this is the level I didn't kno the hammer could hit. With the stem facing down there is less chance for any combustion which means I could hit higher temps with longest draws. Once I got it up to temp I was getting huge rips which reminded me of something like the old gbong hits with the 2 liter and bucket haha. I was using the silicon 14mm on the stem which worked out well.
various127
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Isn't the d020 an 18 mm? That's all I see on the site anyway. It also comes out to about $40 with shipping for me, if we're looking at sunshinestore
Philreal187
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Yeah they are I got an adapter to make it 14mm which they have one ebay and I used the dgates site here is link to d020
http://www.dhgate.com/product/d020-bubbler-hand-blown-glass-vase-perc-water/175832535.html
http://www.dhgate.com/product/d020-bubbler-hand-blown-glass-vase-perc-water/175832535.html
various127
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I feel like if I got an adapter the total would come out to around $40.
And I would rather get this
http://www.dhgate.com/product/roor-...-smoking-pipe/184028960.html#cart_view-1-null
You guys think a bong or a bubbler would better suit the hammer? For taste I feel the bong will have less diffusion, but a bub would have a smaller chamber.
And I would rather get this
http://www.dhgate.com/product/roor-...-smoking-pipe/184028960.html#cart_view-1-null
You guys think a bong or a bubbler would better suit the hammer? For taste I feel the bong will have less diffusion, but a bub would have a smaller chamber.
Hey all!
Just an update - I will have the Hammer vaporizer in my hands for a few days to build a custom upright stand for the Hammer. While I have the device, is there any other accessories you guys think you might like to see designed for the vape? (It's easier to design stuff while I have a physical unit in my hands)
Just an update - I will have the Hammer vaporizer in my hands for a few days to build a custom upright stand for the Hammer. While I have the device, is there any other accessories you guys think you might like to see designed for the vape? (It's easier to design stuff while I have a physical unit in my hands)
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I wonder if you could come up with something to make the grip more ergonomic, like @marduk did with sugru:
It seems like it would be difficult though. Might just have to get myself some sugru...Had some Sugru about to expire, so I made my Hammer more ergonomic. It's SO much easier not having to scrunch up your hand to grip the bottom when you're holding down that stiff switch.
Sugru works good. Though I make a home made version called "Oogoo" which is basically 100% clear silicon and corn starch mixed thoroughly (they don't like to mix, it takes a lot of effort) - add linseed oil baised paint (found in the artistic paint section of hobby stores) for color. I suggest you experiment first before trying to apply to your Hammer! (You probably want to add a LOT of corn starch if you want it to be hand moldable). - this is the same material I use for stoppers (sold on my etsy store) - though I use aquarium grade silicon for those plugs so they are 100% non-toxic (regular cheap 100% clear silicon should be sufficient for an ergonomic grip like you want)
I could make a mold and make those silicon grips, but I'll have to look at how complex the base is before I can determine how feasible something like that would be