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Scott A

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Not sure if I'm looking at it right but that pen clip looks like it doubles as part of the temp control. So the spec is probably much tighter than your ordinary pen clip would have to be.

Makes me wonder how that's going to hold up for people that actually use it as a clip. Looks like a design change candidate for v2 if/when that comes along.
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Good point. Its hard to tell. From looking at that picture and the ones from the latest update im guessing the clip part that attaches to the pen goes under outside casing. Is it the top that is supposed to move or the "middle" ring that the clip is attached to that moves?
 
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Scott A said:
Good point. Its hard to tell. From looking at that picture and the ones from the latest update im guessing the clip part that attaches to the pen goes under outside casing. Is it the top that is supposed to move or the "middle" ring that the clip is attached to that moves?
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That's what I wasnt sure of. But either way you'll need very precise spacing between the clip and the part above it. Needs to be completely round or it won't work/look right. I'm sure when the manufacturer saw this for the first time he didn't under stand its use, blew off the spec,and under quoted the job thinking such tight specs weren't needed for a clip. Throw in language/communication issues and you can see how things like this happen. Which is why they had to go to a completely different manufacturing process to make them right. Just bending a strip of metal like you normally do when making a pen clip isn't going to cut it for this application.
 
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GanjaAroma

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fft said:
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Not sure if I'm looking at it right but that pen clip looks like it doubles as part of the temp control. So the spec is probably much tighter than your ordinary pen clip would have to be.

Makes me wonder how that's going to hold up for people that actually use it as a clip. Looks like a design change candidate for v2 if/when that comes along.
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To me it looks like the clip itself has nothing to do with the temp control. The top piece moves, the line above the clip tells you what position you're at, while the clip itself has no purpose (in regards to temp control). Of course I could be wrong but that's what it looks like to me.
 
Jared

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GanjaAroma said:
To me it looks like the clip itself has nothing to do with the temp control. The top piece moves, the line above the clip tells you what position you're at, while the clip itself has no purpose (in regards to temp control). Of course I could be wrong but that's what it looks like to me.
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That's what I got from looking at it also, unless I'm missing something.
 
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Kaptan said:
The only pen size vapes currently on the market for herbs tend to combust.
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Exactly so. I'd go further and say that the only really successful pen sized herb vape was the TV Evolution. It was (still is....) a bit too big to really call pen size I think, but with the heat shield removed it definitely is in that class size wise. And a true convection vape capable of impressive performance in a very compact package.

However, it is tough to control for most and definitely eats up the batteries big time. GH offers to fix that, an exciting prospect if it comes to pass.

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That's what I got from looking at it also, unless I'm missing something.
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Fun speculation. Under different circumstances 'how was it done on the prototype?' would probably make the whole thing moot.

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OF said:
Exactly so. I'd go further and say that the only really successful pen sized herb vape was the TV Evolution. It was (still is....) a bit too big to really call pen size I think, but with the heat shield removed it definitely is in that class size wise. And a true convection vape capable of impressive performance in a very compact package.

However, it is tough to control for most and definitely eats up the batteries big time. GH offers to fix that, an exciting prospect if it comes to pass.



Fun speculation. Under different circumstances 'how was it done on the prototype?' would probably make the whole thing moot.

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The Ultra + Evolution was the closest I've ever seen to a functional pen-sized vape. Not exactly eGo battery-sized but damn close and pretty pocketable... sadly you and I both know how well battery life fares with that size powering a convection system (anyone that doesn't, I could reliably count on 1 load per battery).
 
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OF said:
Exactly so. I'd go further and say that the only really successful pen sized herb vape was the TV Evolution. It was (still is....) a bit too big to really call pen size I think, but with the heat shield removed it definitely is in that class size wise. And a true convection vape capable of impressive performance in a very compact package.
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so what makes a vape a "pen" vape? ego batteries are "pens" right? and they are larger diameter than most actual pens...

so what makes the imag not a "pen". strictly its diameter? what is it a 1/4" larger than the GH?

im just trying to figure out what makes a vape a "pen" vape. the GH looks to be about the width of a reg sharpie... so it cant be a "pen" either then right?
 
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pakalolo

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2clicker said:
so what makes a vape a "pen" vape? ego batteries are "pens" right? and they are larger diameter than most actual pens...

so what makes the imag not a "pen". strictly its diameter? what is it a 1/4" larger than the GH?

im just trying to figure out what makes a vape a "pen" vape. the GH looks to be about the width of a reg sharpie... so it cant be a "pen" either then right?
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The one thing everyone does agree on is that it must have a long cylindrical shape. The diameter is usually what determines the dividing line, but people disagree on how big it can be. In my experience, anything based on a 510-threaded battery is called a vape pen. These are 14-16 mm in diameter, which is a bit large for a real pen, more like a Sharpie. When you move up to vapes that use 18 mm batteries, some manufacturers or vendors will still call them pens, but people will tend to disagree (again from my experience) since you've moved into Hi-liter territory.

I suppose a length greater than about 16 cm would also disqualify a design.
 
Armerad

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Mid-October update is out, looks like they're hopeful for a December release!

Hey Everyone,

We are here with the mid-October update. The project has been moving smoothly over the last 15 days. Our attention has remained on the manufacturing and testing of several assemblies. As some larger shipments come in, we’ve also been working through the extensive bureaucracy of importing.

As our parts move through the manufacturing process, we’re working to test those that have arrived for longevity and durability. This means ensuring that everything is standing up to the demands of a wide service temperature range and the expansion and contraction that goes with it. Creating, managing and containing the heat within the Grasshopper’s small metal body has been the single biggest design challenge. The results so far are good.

We’ve made one small adjustment to outer ring that holds the Back End together. This ring is the final part of the Back End assembly, and snaps over the clip and dial to hold everything together. Originally, it was machined from 410 Stainless Steel and then heat-treated to give it a spring temper. The spring temper is required to allow the ring to stretch open and return to its original shape after installation. Unfortunately, the heat treatment process caused too much deformation to the ring. To fix this problem, we’ve decided to use Stainless Steel 17-4, which is a specialized alloy that will be strong enough to make heat treatment unnecessary. Stainless 17-4 is widely used in airliner landing gear and other high-stress applications, where the metal needs to flex but not permanently deform.

As we bring in some larger shipments, we’ve had to learn the ins and outs of the import process. This process is much different than the normal shipping process. It involves brokers, ISF forms, container loading and unloading fees, inspections, and customs taxes. The bulk of our packaging arrived by cargo ship earlier this month, and the rest of the Hopper parts will be be arriving by air. We’re using express air shipping on all Grasshopper parts to cut out the extra 15 to 20 days required when shipping by sea.


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Grasshopper packaging shipment.


So far we’re looking good for December, and we’ll be back with another update on November 1st.


The Grasshopper Team.
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Deadshort480

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We're here to fuck shit up.
I am now convinced that this project will not make it into the hands of the contributors until 2015. I'm hoping for at least a first quarter release, but with each "update" my heart sinks a bit more. The term "biting off more than you can chew" is constantly running through my head whenever I think about the Grasshopper. I hope they prove me wrong.
 
HillaryClinton

HillaryClinton

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Probably December the earliest, it really might make the 1 year anniversary....haha, hopefully we have them soon.
 
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invertedisdead

invertedisdead

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The packaging reminds me of when you get an awesome gift only to find they just re-used the box and put socks inside. Thanks, Mom!
 
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