Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer

[RicoPishe]

It is best to always charge battery before it completely dies because if u always wait for it to die every single time u vape that tends to degrade the battery the more u let it die then recharge it's best to recharge before it dies so let's say after u finished one bowl while your emptying it out and refilling your charger should be in while u do it that way u get alot out of your battery.

Thanks for the reply, I have the latest 770 mAh battery....Joy

 

[ChippyMalone]

Well, I'm sending mine back in to Firefly to see if it is defective. It was my first medical vaporizer, and while I did enjoy it initially, it seemed that it just got more and more difficult to get good hits from and at one point this summer, I actually put it aside and started burning bong hits because I couldn't get what I needed.

That's when I bought an E-Nano and put the Firefly aside for good. Now, I really would like to have a portable like this for when I wake up with breakthrough pain and a pre-packed Firefly would be nice on the bedside table, but it's just too frustrating to use and takes forever to get enough light barely warm hits. In the end, I do get toasted AVB, so it is functional to some degree.

What I don't know is if the E-Nano has just spoiled me or if my unit is defective or if it has always been defective? I'm going to send it in this week, and if it doesn't come back easy to use, and I am just spoiled by plug in units, then I'll be putting it up for sale in the classifieds soon. . . . .

The last thing I need when I must get CBD into me right now is to fiddle around and monkey with a device that I just want to work without thinking about it.

 

[ChippyMalone]

Sorry about this post in advance. I have many of the same views on the Firefly. I find like the Air better than the Firefly. I just sold my Firefly and replaced it with a Triihouse Lily and am very happy with the switch.

Thanks @steama . I need a portable that is going to work the first time, every time, without having to resort to various tips and tricks to force it to work.

I might be leaning towards a butane powered device more along the lines of a Lotus or the Vapman that @Enchantre has now used to re-ignite my VAS. Thanks a lot, lady!!! If she keeps this sort of taunting up, I'm going to have to find the place in this forum's custom settings to block and ignore here around here because I cannot afford to keep up with her much longer!

 

[grokit]

I am appreciating my firefly more than ever, as I try and get the hang of my new esv

 

[mitchgo61]

Well, I'm sending mine back in to Firefly to see if it is defective. It was my first medical vaporizer, and while I did enjoy it initially, it seemed that it just got more and more difficult to get good hits from and at one point this summer, I actually put it aside and started burning bong hits because I couldn't get what I needed.

That's when I bought an E-Nano and put the Firefly aside for good. Now, I really would like to have a portable like this for when I wake up with breakthrough pain and a pre-packed Firefly would be nice on the bedside table, but it's just too frustrating to use and takes forever to get enough light barely warm hits.
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Sucks that you can't get what you need, when you need it, from the FF. It can definitely be fickle, even after you think you've mastered it. The new batteries seem to help, IME, but it's also possible your FF isn't getting hot enough. When it returns, my one tip if you're trying to get it hotter faster is pulse the heat button over and over during the hit...it can really raise the heat quickly. Sometimes a little too fast! (A desktop, especially one like the Nano, is always going to be more powerful and reliable than a portable like the FF.)

Hopefully you get some satisfaction from your FF in the near future.

 

[ChippyMalone]

Thanks @mitchgo61. The more I think about it, I'm pretty sure it is either the battery pooped out months before I realized it or that it is no longer getting as hot as it used to. Because I was able to accidentally combust twice in the first weekend I owned it.

I know it can be good, so hopefully they will get it sorted out and I can love it again.

 

[Shit Snacks]

My new FF hasnt been as much fun as my old one, but it does run a bit hotter and need more stirring now (like every hit cuz if a hot spot so its like Elevape), whereas my last firefly didn't need to be stirred at all, and was a lower sub 400ish temp which was nice. I came up with an incredible stir solution though that I will post soon ...

Anyway they're all enjoyable, annoying how every single one is different, but thats the way convection vapes are now I guess. Even my T1 doesn't run as hot and fast as my friend's when hooked IP the same PA. I guess the goal is for the grasshopper to be consistent experiences unit to unit, but we don't know for sure yet.

Either way you can't go wrong with convection, its fun to try all the new ones popping up. And I enjoy them all, why I dont think I would sell my firefly or Elevape regardless, always rely on my underdog and T1 for heavy home use, have a Lily on the way, preordered the hopper, and will order a Zion as soon as I can too. Convection vas tends to pay off...

 

[Spackeradder]

Hi all,

I'm having trouble with my Firefly but I'm not sure what kind of trouble exactly. See, I bought my FF a few weeks ago, maybe a month and a half ago, and at the start everything was going great guns. I was getting thick huge hits, and once or twice I even combusted by getting greedy and hanging off a hit too long. All in all, I was thoroughly satisfied with my purchase and upgrade from MFLB.

Then that all changed. Getting thick hits became hard. I've spent the last while just scratching my head, trying various draw strengths and techniques, pulsing the button like a motherfucker, but usually the only result I get is lukewarm, thin wisps of vapour. I say usually because sometimes out of the blue I'll suddenly score a huge, hot hit for seemingly no raisin.

Is it possible that I've just lost the knack and don't know how to draw anymore? Or has my FF indeed gone funny? I was really pleased with the device at first, and bought a high quality vaporizer to avoid technical failures and whatnot.

Any ideas? Tips? Anything?

 

[IAmKrazy2]

I have 3 batteries i purchased a few months back, and tried to never let them overcharge. Currently, none of them hold a charge beyond one bowl load, and sometimes i am unable to even finish one load. Is the company doing anything about this concern? Has anyone out there warrantied a battery? Thanks all.

Besides the battery, its a great portable.

 

[Shit Snacks]

I have 3 batteries i purchased a few months back, and tried to never let them overcharge. Currently, none of them hold a charge beyond one bowl load, and sometimes i am unable to even finish one load. Is the company doing anything about this concern? Has anyone out there warrantied a battery? Thanks all.

Besides the battery, its a great portable.

Depending how many, yes. If it can't sustain a charge and it was well taken care of, should be covered if it hasnt been too long. Also they have the newer batteries now as well

 

[IAmKrazy2]

Thanks for the info, i will test them all and contact asap.

 

[mitchgo61]

Hi all,

I'm having trouble with my Firefly but I'm not sure what kind of trouble exactly. See, I bought my FF a few weeks ago, maybe a month and a half ago, and at the start everything was going great guns. I was getting thick huge hits, and once or twice I even combusted by getting greedy and hanging off a hit too long. All in all, I was thoroughly satisfied with my purchase and upgrade from MFLB.

Then that all changed. Getting thick hits became hard. I've spent the last while just scratching my head, trying various draw strengths and techniques, pulsing the button like a motherfucker, but usually the only result I get is lukewarm, thin wisps of vapour. I say usually because sometimes out of the blue I'll suddenly score a huge, hot hit for seemingly no raisin.

Is it possible that I've just lost the knack and don't know how to draw anymore? Or has my FF indeed gone funny? I was really pleased with the device at first, and bought a high quality vaporizer to avoid technical failures and whatnot.

Any ideas? Tips? Anything?

Make sure your battery is fully charged...try packing denser bowls, it might make your vapor thicker. If that doesn't work, try pulsing the button...that usually raises the heat. If nothing works, your FF might have a coil problem, so call FF and see about a replacement. Good luck.... (Also give a quick skim of the Best Of thread if you want more detailed technique tips....)

 

[IAmKrazy2]

The vape works great. The battery just doesn't last long. The batteries are fully charged and i get stellar results until the red light comes on and the battery dies, usually after the first or second hit of my second bowl.

 

[Marctraider]

The vape works great. The battery just doesn't last long. The batteries are fully charged and i get stellar results until the red light comes on and the battery dies, usually after the first or second hit of my second bowl.

Thats bad. I can easily do a few sessions (like 6 bowls at least fully depleated)

I never hit the red light stuff either except when i first used the device when experimenting.

 

[Marctraider]

Hi all,

I'm having trouble with my Firefly but I'm not sure what kind of trouble exactly. See, I bought my FF a few weeks ago, maybe a month and a half ago, and at the start everything was going great guns. I was getting thick huge hits, and once or twice I even combusted by getting greedy and hanging off a hit too long. All in all, I was thoroughly satisfied with my purchase and upgrade from MFLB.

Then that all changed. Getting thick hits became hard. I've spent the last while just scratching my head, trying various draw strengths and techniques, pulsing the button like a motherfucker, but usually the only result I get is lukewarm, thin wisps of vapour. I say usually because sometimes out of the blue I'll suddenly score a huge, hot hit for seemingly no raisin.

Is it possible that I've just lost the knack and don't know how to draw anymore? Or has my FF indeed gone funny? I was really pleased with the device at first, and bought a high quality vaporizer to avoid technical failures and whatnot.

Any ideas? Tips? Anything?

Honestly a properly aligned FF should barely if never combust even if your material is dry.

I think what you are experiencing is combust vs vape and who knows you might have combused all the time in your first few weeks. You definately not want that cuz vapour is way better quality than smoke

Vapour has thinner but more tasteful clouds where smoke has big clouds but aweful taste.


My FF used to combust, after manually realigning the coil (Voids warranty) i got it all fixed, no more combustion evah!

I might even be under the assumption you're FF is not entirely working because you really dont need to overheat the device to get the last bit of stuff out of your bowl.

My FF had air leakage when i got it at the mouth piece, fixed it with some liquid gasket stuff they use for cars and motorcycles etc.

Inspect your FF properly guys, because fabrication errors or coil alignment issues can happen.

 

[Spackeradder]

Make sure your battery is fully charged...try packing denser bowls, it might make your vapor thicker. If that doesn't work, try pulsing the button...that usually raises the heat. If nothing works, your FF might have a coil problem, so call FF and see about a replacement. Good luck.... (Also give a quick skim of the Best Of thread if you want more detailed technique tips....)

Thanks for the reply.
After posting me message, I did some reading, and realised I had no once cleaned out the chamber of the FF. After giving it a thorough cleaning, my device seems to be working better, but still not like it was before. Also, while cleaning, I noticed that he mesh screen moves around at the bottom of the chamber. It's got a fair it of wriggle room down there, is it meant to be firmly in place? Thought maybe this might be my problem?

EDIT: Lots of talk about coil alignments and such. Could anyone please fill me in on what exactly the heating coil is exactly? Is it something I can see and inspect for myself?

 

[Shit Snacks]

So my second firefly has been hitting harsher and hotter than my last, with a hotspot so more stirring required as well. As such I began experimenting, and now i think ive come up with anibteresting solution to avoid overcooking or scorching spots and preserve flavor better.

I removed my screen and noticed a lot of herb trapped underneath, likely from using the whole nugs method, as I broke them up with a color stay (see below) in the bowl sometimes. They were also in the area between the glass bowl and steel plate, like in the sides. This had me thinking about something I did in my Imag+ Ceramic...

I took a fine Indica screen and molded it around an Underdog stem (non gong end of gong stem) then trimmed the excess for a wide shallow (maybe cm? less?) basket screen. I then put the basket screen in the FF bowl upside down (concave part facing up) and pushed it in. Now there is some space above the steel plate of the bowl, making sure no herb is stuck in the sides of the bowl or under the screen thanks to the basket edges covering them.

This also makes the bowl a little smaller some I'm conserving herb (bowl is still decent size though) but not missing out on effects! Getting like 3 hits, flip and stir, 3 more, flip and stir, 3 to kill it. Milk chocolatey avb, no scorched spots like before thanks to the shallower bowl, and a little more space between it and the heater.

(This may even work for those who combust, but I dono, this FF did do that once on me, with its hotspot, but it was bc I overpacked the bowl too tight and it was light combustion even if that makes sense.... So I can't speak much on that and I digress?)

Anyway as mentioned above, I also have this steel collar stay as a tool tjat j got from someone (have a few) and its a perfect Firefly stirrer/flipper/scooper. It magnetizes to the lid strongly, so strong you could even turn it so the pointy end sticks out, and then use the lid as your stirrer handle (though its easier to do it separately). It sits secure and completely flush on the lid for storage, even looks kinda cool:

I'm sure they can be found online somewhere for those interested, I highly recommend it

 

[EveryDayAmnesiac]

The vape works great. The battery just doesn't last long. The batteries are fully charged and i get stellar results until the red light comes on and the battery dies, usually after the first or second hit of my second bowl.

Have you tried "jigglin the wires," aka toggling the unit off and on 3 or 4 times? Sometimes I'll get a false red light on some of my older (non 770) batts.

Hell, sometimes it doesn't even take but one toggle...

 

[BreeJay]

Have you tried "jigglin the wires," aka toggling the unit off and on 3 or 4 times? Sometimes I'll get a false red light on some of my older (non 770) batts.

Hell, sometimes it doesn't even take but one toggle...

Thats why I love this forum. I can almost always find info I am after fast. Usually not this fast. I had a false blinking red light on a unit I received today and was a bit concerned. Now I know the cause. I do indeed have a 750, despite the reseller assuring me I was getting a 770.

I have a couple of quick questions..............
1) When I charge the battery to full and unplug, if I wait ten minutes and plug it in again, it seems to think it need a bit more charging. Normal?

2) I find it very easy to char my herb. Also easy to detect when the charring begins by taste. I take it this is a normal occurrence? A technique issue maybe? I have tried stirring the bowl, and not.

Thanks in advance.

 

[JiggyJack]

I love my FireFly. So fast and strong. It's my "coffee table" vape.

 

[mitchgo61]

Thanks for the reply.
After posting me message, I did some reading, and realised I had no once cleaned out the chamber of the FF. After giving it a thorough cleaning, my device seems to be working better, but still not like it was before. Also, while cleaning, I noticed that he mesh screen moves around at the bottom of the chamber. It's got a fair it of wriggle room down there, is it meant to be firmly in place? Thought maybe this might be my problem?

EDIT: Lots of talk about coil alignments and such. Could anyone please fill me in on what exactly the heating coil is exactly? Is it something I can see and inspect for myself?

The bottom screen is a teeny bit too small to stay underneath the edge of the bowl, and hence can move a little. It's not really a big deal, though debris will get under it and you should clean it out every so often. The more play you have in it, the more likely you are to get stuff under the screen. However, it's pretty unlikely to have caused your issues with the FF.

The coil is not user-accessible, technically. The heating coil is just that...the metal alloy coil that generates the heat. It seems to have razor-thin tolerances in placement, and thus not all FFs are the same.

Here's a post with pics of the inside workings of the FF. Keep in mind opening the steel plate can void your warranty if something goes wrong after you've opened it. You should also take a spin through the Best Of FF thread...it's not long and will answer all your questions.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/best-of-the-firefly-vaporizer-thread.16628/page-3#post-705773

I have a couple of quick questions..............
1) When I charge the battery to full and unplug, if I wait ten minutes and plug it in again, it seems to think it need a bit more charging. Normal?

2) I find it very easy to char my herb. Also easy to detect when the charring begins by taste. I take it this is a normal occurrence? A technique issue maybe? I have tried stirring the bowl, and not.

Thanks in advance.

1. Normal. The batteries seem to lose a little charge almost immediately. Especially the 750s.

2. Also normal with a convection vape...if you pack densely you can easily char, and in any event you need to stir often with the FF to evenly cook the material. Pretty standard convection behavior. (Go easier on the button, stir more often...)

 

[hi_there]

Looks like china just copied this one too....[link removed]
I wonder if anyone ever successfully sues these guys?

mod note: Link removed.

 

[hafalump]

Wow, look to see them at my local head shop
Seriously folks, order direct from FF web site.

 

[hi_there]

They could be actual Fireflies. Sometimes there are disputes between the Chinese manufacturer and the American product owner/distributor where the Chinese company will dump or sell product very cheaply. I have experienced this with other products. No way to know from a simple image.

Ya, they show the battery compartment area and it looks pretty real.

 

[BreeJay]

1. Normal. The batteries seem to lose a little charge almost immediately. Especially the 750s.

2. Also normal with a convection vape...if you pack densely you can easily char, and in any event you need to stir often with the FF to evenly cook the material. Pretty standard convection behavior. (Go easier on the button, stir more often...)

Thank you muchly.

Indeed, the charring occurred on a tightly packed bowl. Will go easier on the packing density.........and the button.