Discontinued The Firefly Vaporizer
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BlueSkyUSA
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Hello TNT
Thanks for the reply. Sorry I didn't explain myself well. My FF is strongly magnetized. I don't need to hold them together, I just found I could change the air flow by tightening pressure on the edge of the lid and body. Applying the pressure and playing with it just seemed to help with the hit on my FF (at least it is tonight!). But if I do look at my FF from the side with the lid on the silver band around the lid isn't flush all the way around even though the lid fits snug and cant be moved once it drops down into it's place.
Thanks for the reply. Sorry I didn't explain myself well. My FF is strongly magnetized. I don't need to hold them together, I just found I could change the air flow by tightening pressure on the edge of the lid and body. Applying the pressure and playing with it just seemed to help with the hit on my FF (at least it is tonight!). But if I do look at my FF from the side with the lid on the silver band around the lid isn't flush all the way around even though the lid fits snug and cant be moved once it drops down into it's place.
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Good news: I got a refund.
Here's the seller's explanation for it:
I don't buy it, but I don't care. As long as I get my refund.
And I will be purchasing the legit one this time. I'm not giving up on it. I could feel something even from the small hits so I'm excited.
hi_there
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Titans321 glad you got a refund. I think the biggest difference or easiest way to tell the clone from the real thing is the heat up time. I believe the clones are slatted at 5 seconds and the real FF is more like 2 seconds. Do you remember the heat time on it? Plus you said no serial number on the box right? If you go to the place they sell the clones you can see a lot of orders put through....will be clones around for a while.
HD Springer
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Bluesky i pretty much do the same thing when im trying to add extra heat while minimizing air inflow.It really increases the heat.Then as soon as you release the grip whamo,like a shotgun effect.I have to really be careful cause with a fresh pack I can combust.
Im with blamejane that is great news.
Im with blamejane that is great news.
The heating process seemed fine to me. The unit itself got really hot at one point, and the red light came on, so I let it cool down.
It would take about a second after I pressed the heat-up button for the chamber to glow orange.
InfiniteGreys
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Hey did anyone see the concentrate mesh pads that were for sell earlier today. They took it off a few hours ago.
Yeah, I saw that too. They were on there this morning and now they're off. Maybe they sold out?
A testament to Firefly's great customer service: I emailed them about the fake unit I received from eBay and they said it wasn't covered with their 5 year warranty since it's fake. However, they gave me a 20% off discount code for my first purchase. I got the Firefly and the extra charger and battery for only $240! Couldn't be happier.
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Great news! Good luck with the new FF!
I know this was a new product they were introducing, so I assume they will be back up soon. Maybe it was a mistake to list them and they aren't quite ready to ship them yet....
Marctraider
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I used to think that too, when i pull on my FF and press the right side the airflow sounds different, but i cannot see any difference in vaping experience myself.
I actually believe mine sucks some air at the battery department, logical as there is no isolation to prevent that from happening. Most air still gets drawn from the 3 sides with the vents though.
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Unlikely. There is isolation as you can tell from these tear-down picks. The battery compartment is surrounded and sealed off by the plate/base combo. Only removing the top plate can allow air to flow over anything other than the coil itself. It's designed that way, obviously for safety reasons.
Unless, of course, there is something wrong with your FF, air will not flow over the battery or electronics.
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/best-of-the-firefly-vaporizer-thread.16628/page-3#post-705773
Marctraider
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I do not agree with that. At least, unless my eyes deceived me last time I opened up my FF.
The air can come through the parts were the coil wires stick out for one, going further inside the battery chamber, is not 100% air tight, neither is the bottom closure plate for the battery.
They do not even use any kind of sealing or basket or anything to prevent tiny bits of air from getting past the metal base plate and the plastic bottom/battery housing.
http://i.imgur.com/frf6bBs.png
On the top of the picture, I drew two red arrows to indicate air can in fact be drawn from there, into the second section with the PCB. After that, air can be sucked mainly from the two aft notches that keep the battery in place. Even with the battery placed there it is not 100% air tight, by far.
And not even mentioning the miniscule air leaks that can be caused by not using any sealant what so ever. Just raw hard plastic on metal, that can never be 100% air tight.
And what about the heater button area? Or the section where you stick in the power plug, all 100% air tight? Doubt it.
Not that it really matters imho. the need to suck this hard on the device most likely indicates a whole other problem. For kicks and what not I did try to seal off any possible area that might cause unwanted air leaks with liquid basket sealant, it didn't make any difference for my experience really. It only made a mess of things and it made my FF taste worse.
Im still happy as a kid with my FF now i used it for 2 months, and totally got the technique under control. After having fixed my own coil problems No more combusting going on. I can easily get 6 good draws with awesome clouds, 7th usually starts to diminish.
Thats pretty awesome. I never pack to tight, and the residue is all pretty equally colored.
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BreeJay
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Vapeworld Blog entry on Firefly concentrate pads.
http://blog.vapeworld.com/firefly-concentrate-pads-available/
http://blog.vapeworld.com/firefly-concentrate-pads-available/
HD Springer
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I guess my biggest question is can the ff get warm enough to even bother w this.
Marctraider
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Guess someone has to try it out
I still have tons of liquids from my old E-cig but i disliked all of them. But it could be because of the cartomizer i used to use. Unfortunately this stuff will probably not be available here and I couldnt be bothered to order some experimental stuff from outside my country
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
I do not agree with that. At least, unless my eyes deceived me last time I opened up my FF.
The air can come through the parts were the coil wires stick out for one, going further inside the battery chamber, is not 100% air tight, neither is the bottom closure plate for the battery.
They do not even use any kind of sealing or basket or anything to prevent tiny bits of air from getting past the metal base plate and the plastic bottom/battery housing.
Not that it really matters imho.
Your assumptions about where the air flows are incorrect, if I'm understanding your point. Air gets putlled through the mouthpiece, through the tiny slot in the plate, and then directly over the top of the metal plate, through the channels built into the lid. It isn't being pulled from the inside of the front part of the FF, at all.
The air from the channels pulls air up through the three vents and directly over the heater coil, and then over the bowl and back through the vapor channels in the lid. It comes in from the three vents and goes up and over the plate. Never through the FF except the bowl area. It doesn't need sealant, part of the elegance of the design...the little plastic rectangle in front of the mouthpiece, in between the two bottom arrows you drew, forms a tight natural seal with the top steel plate when it's properly installed (and if there were no seal made by that contact, you'd know it...you would never get a decent hit from the FF). no air ever pulls from inside that part of the FF, just through the slot and back over the lid.
And yes, it very much does matter...some people get very upset if they think air is being pulled over the electronics, even though in this case it's unheated air (or would be, if it were happening, which it isn't....unless, again, there's a defect somewhere...)
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Marctraider
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Really, suck hard enough on the FF and the 3 vents get restricted enough for the FF to pull air from around the battery casing. Sure its minimal or even absent if you pull normally.
seal off the 3 vents with tape to test it out.
Mike M
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They sent me two new ones for the two that stopped working, no questions asked.
MrStrickland
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they also offered me a new one and I didn't have to send in my old one, they're pretty good it seems.
Legal in Washington State
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Been lurking for awhile...first time poster. In fact, I don't post on any forums, but, this one has been so helpful I felt compelled to contribute. Or maybe legally vaping weed is my only compelling interest. 
To the point.... Thank you to those who posted about the new battery not being shipped with the new Firefly unit. I received my new Firefly today direct from thefirefly.com along with a replacement battery/charger bundle (a good deal at $30). The replacement battery was the new one (770 mah) while the one in the Firefly box was the old type (750 mah).
I called Firefly and the very helpful representative indicated that I should have received the newer battery with the unit but that some older batteries were still being shipped. Without my having to ask, he stated that a new battery would be shipped free of charge. Interestingly, he stated that I should discard the older battery because of potential problems interchanging the newer and older batteries. Given my experience with so many recalcitrant businesses these days, I expected a debate. I was pleasantly surprised by the great customer service.
Although I'm willing to give Firefly the benefit of the doubt that older style batteries are mistakenly being shipped with new units, if I hadn't read this forum, I wouldn't have known about this problem. Certainly, consumers have some responsibility to be informed. However, businesses ought to be more proactive in informing consumers about known problems and ultimately take corrective measures. I hope Firefly communicates to customers about the possibility that an older battery might have been mistakenly shipped. It would be simple enough to post something on their website and/or send an email using the address included with an order.
Meanwhile, I've yet to use my new Firefly. If the preponderance of reviews are accurate, I should be in for a fantastic vaping experience!
Thanks again to the fuckcombustion community for very useful discussions! I actually think it speaks volumes about the weed-using community (I know, not everybody vapes weed).
To the point.... Thank you to those who posted about the new battery not being shipped with the new Firefly unit. I received my new Firefly today direct from thefirefly.com along with a replacement battery/charger bundle (a good deal at $30). The replacement battery was the new one (770 mah) while the one in the Firefly box was the old type (750 mah).
I called Firefly and the very helpful representative indicated that I should have received the newer battery with the unit but that some older batteries were still being shipped. Without my having to ask, he stated that a new battery would be shipped free of charge. Interestingly, he stated that I should discard the older battery because of potential problems interchanging the newer and older batteries. Given my experience with so many recalcitrant businesses these days, I expected a debate. I was pleasantly surprised by the great customer service.
Although I'm willing to give Firefly the benefit of the doubt that older style batteries are mistakenly being shipped with new units, if I hadn't read this forum, I wouldn't have known about this problem. Certainly, consumers have some responsibility to be informed. However, businesses ought to be more proactive in informing consumers about known problems and ultimately take corrective measures. I hope Firefly communicates to customers about the possibility that an older battery might have been mistakenly shipped. It would be simple enough to post something on their website and/or send an email using the address included with an order.
Meanwhile, I've yet to use my new Firefly. If the preponderance of reviews are accurate, I should be in for a fantastic vaping experience!
Thanks again to the fuckcombustion community for very useful discussions! I actually think it speaks volumes about the weed-using community (I know, not everybody vapes weed).
mitchgo61
I go where the thrills are
Welcome to FC! There is definitely much useful info in this thread, and the "Best of FF" thread, which has a higher signal-noise ratio. Enjoy the FF and let us know how you get on with it...I'm sure you'll find it's a complex relationship.
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