Thekidthatshigh
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Do you guys know how to get the longest lifespan out of you battery. Like charging all the time or just when it's dead. Or do the same rules apply to a generic lithium ion battery.
Do you guys know how to get the longest lifespan out of you battery. Like charging all the time or just when it's dead. Or do the same rules apply to a generic lithium ion battery.
There must be a temp sensor somewhere in the device presuming the instruction manual isn't mistaken (no idea where, but there were a couple chips that I couldn't read, and this isn't my area of expertise). It says that the indicator light will glow amber if the device overheats.Because there is no temp sensor (that I can see), I guess it's what you call an open loop control system -- not like a thermostat. It can only estimate the temp based on how much current it's pulling. It stands to reason that since the device's behavior is set in advance entirely by the firmware, without "knowing" how hot the load is, there will be ways to force it into various states and temps. It would help if the company put up some diagrams with temp readings.
Yes the substances dry out. Yes that makes the job easier. The various parts around the heating coil heat up as you use it, and it's likely that it makes the air that much hotter as it passes through. It adds up. I don't think it matters if that's called pure convection or not.
Thanks that's exactly what I wanted to hear.I beat the piss out of batteries pretty hard. I charge when I'm near a charger and I don't worry about it when I'm not. So far so good with all my other devices. I think that charge "patterns" are less important on current technology than people believe. If my devices are degrading from constant charging and discharging...I can't even notice, so I'm not too worried.
At $30 per battery firefly batteries are fair IMO. I'm still yet to kill the battery on a day out. I rip through 5 cera batteries easily on that thing with herb, but I am happy with battery life so far. So much so that I just ordered the battery, not the external charger. I can charge both to full in under 1.5 hrs. I'll just charge at night and enjoy during the day and always have 2 full batteries per day to work with. Unless the thing stops holding such a good charge/so many bowls, I don't think I'll bother taking both with me most days.
Mines does not seem to be like thatDo you have to press hard on the power button of your unit to make it work properly. On mine I have to push it pretty hard and on a perfect angle, otherwise it not work!!
Just out of curiosity, what is your technique?
Thats weird. I get around 4 bowls off a charge from my cera. And can get 2 cera batteries for $15.I beat the piss out of batteries pretty hard. I charge when I'm near a charger and I don't worry about it when I'm not. So far so good with all my other devices. I think that charge "patterns" are less important on current technology than people believe. If my devices are degrading from constant charging and discharging...I can't even notice, so I'm not too worried.
At $30 per battery firefly batteries are fair IMO. I'm still yet to kill the battery on a day out. I rip through 5 cera batteries easily on that thing with herb, but I am happy with battery life so far. So much so that I just ordered the battery, not the external charger. I can charge both to full in under 1.5 hrs. I'll just charge at night and enjoy during the day and always have 2 full batteries per day to work with. Unless the thing stops holding such a good charge/so many bowls, I don't think I'll bother taking both with me most days.
Load to just above the rim of the bowl, tamp down lightly.
Press button, wait for 3-4 seconds, begin drawing slowly and steadily.
First draw - leave the button depressed until it automatically shuts off. Continue drawing slowly and steadily until no more vapor is felt.
Subsequent draws - leave the button depressed until I start feeling vapor, then release. Continue drawing slowly and steadily until no more vapor is felt.
Tap gently between hits to stir. Open and stir once near the end of the session to get the remaining goodies.
IDK what you mean by automatically shuts off. I just press and continue to hold for the entire duration of my hit. Is that not what everyone else is doing? I might shut it off half way through or 3/4 of the way through my hit, but its just one long press and hold during the hit, not multiple hits.
Another thing I've noticed is that even right after a few hits, I can empty the bowl (ten seconds or so to brush all the material out) and the screen at the bottom is cool to the touch, so definitely not much conduction happening. Most of the retained heat must be below the bowl around the heating coil, and in the aluminium body of the device.
Perhaps if someone else has done a stress test they can chime in with their experience. Takes about ten minutes to drain the battery running it almost continuously, and it gets very very hot. I put mine on a cold surface half way through to cool it down because it was becoming uncomfortable to hold. Didn't actually see the amber light though, so I can't comment on whether or not that line from the manual is accurate.
If it can help some you, Shelby from Firefly live chat gave me that technique on how to properly use the FF!!
Simply hold down the heating button for about 8 – 10 seconds. Around the 8-10 second mark begin to draw. Make sure when you go to draw from the unit you continue to hold the heating button down. When drawing from the Firefly you will want to take a nice long, slow and steady draw.
I have personally found the air flow a little easier if let the heating button go for only a second to allow some cool air to pass through, than immediately press the button again so the material continues to create vapor. This will use up more of your battery, however will produce a great stream of vapor that has superior taste.
IDK what you mean by automatically shuts off. I just press and continue to hold for the entire duration of my hit. Is that not what everyone else is doing? I might shut it off half way through or 3/4 of the way through my hit, but its just one long press and hold during the hit, not multiple hits. .
Do you guys know how to get the longest lifespan out of you battery. Like charging all the time or just when it's dead. Or do the same rules apply to a generic lithium ion battery.
Yup, full charge prior to first use, then don't fully discharge them and don't fully charge them after.Same rules, depleting them all the way is most likely not ideal.
The FF may have a shut off voltage to protect the cells from full discharge, I'm unsure though.
Having a few batteries, I just switch them out after every couple loads.
A shallow cycle will help them to last longer.
Here is a link to Battery University. Great resource! Look at table 2.Is this documented fact?
I have heard so many different things about batteries that I no longer know what to believe. I have heard the exact opposite of what you just said, namely that it is best not to charge them over and over if they don't need it.
I am not saying that what I heard was correct, but it really is hard to know what to believe when nobody offers citations or research or anything of the sort to back up advice on how to treat batteries...
I was hoping that would be the case , for all LI-on batteryI am also assuming, but I believe it probably also has an auto shut-off to stop charging after it reaches a certain voltage.
Not usually. Samsung had an issue recently with one of their newer phones, overheated from charging and popped. The thing is Samsung only wanted to replace the faulty phone if the guy signed NDA's and promised not to tell anyone about it ever, which only made it a bigger deal. It's not something that should happen but it can...which triggered a reaction. that reaction does not simply occur in a cell phone etc during a charge, to the best of my knowledge..