The Firefly 2 vaporizer

[b0]

On another note, does anyone know if the app update will address the issue of my batteries not lasting as long as they are supposed to? Having a functioning meter will be incredible, but it would be way better if this somehow addressed their tendency to die out, usually during my second bowl, and without warning. Both batteries, consistently. But while they are working, this thing hits like a beast.

I was having a similar issue, my batteries died just by themselves even if I didn't use the unit in all day and never lasted more than a bowl or a bowl and a half if I was lucky.

My unit is now on the way to firefly and will let you know what they tell me. It's supposed to take around 2 weeks of testing after it arrives, will post as soon as I know something.

 

[jdent3]

I think I had a battery stop working last night. I had my spare battery sitting in the box for a week fully charged and when I pulled it out to use it it was dead. I then tried charging it and it said it was fully charged after 2 minutes on the cradle. I tried using it this morning and it was dead. My other battery appears to be working fine. Has anyone else had this happen? I'm going to play around with it a bit more before sending it to firefly.

 

[malsanti]

Al your other issues, battery meters and weird blinking lights, aint had any of that. This thing does get you in a pretty good state!

 

[RangerDanger]

This vape really has my attention. What's annoying is that this and the Mighty are both on par in their own ways. It's a very tough decision between the two, but I side with the FF2. I really hope this is available on PuffItUp around mid August. I'd much rather order through them than FireFly's website because of that Adult Signature. I guess if it's not there, I'm going with the Mighty. Does anyone have any inside info on the availability of the device possibly?

 

[turk]

...recently changed my app use from iPhone to iPad....since then I haven't experienced any disconnection issue..not sure why...but iPad signal is better.

 

[NoCo970]

Didn't see this posted anywhere yet so I apologize if I have missed it.
Wondering if anyone has been using their original FF1 battery with their FF2 and noticed any difference in battery life? Didn't know if the worn down FF1 batteries maybe last a little bit longer in the FF2 because of what they call "less consumption by the device". My current FF1 battery lasts about 1 full session. Obviously unacceptable but I'm not sure if I want to warranty it or just use it in the FF2 when it comes and deal with it. Only reason is I'm under the pre-assumption that the device needs to be sent in along with the battery or am I confused? Thanks in advance.

On a side note I would like to see an AF (auto flow) option that would say start at 250°F and work its way up to 440°F or even could be adjusted based on personal preference.

 

[Atanyrhate]

I was having a similar issue, my batteries died just by themselves even if I didn't use the unit in all day and never lasted more than a bowl or a bowl and a half if I was lucky.

My unit is now on the way to firefly and will let you know what they tell me. It's supposed to take around 2 weeks of testing after it arrives, will post as soon as I know something.

Thanks! I'm trying to avoid having to send it away.

 

[marcs]

I agree about different strains and differing results. I have taken 2 different strains that were both decent, cloud producing product in other vapes, and have one of them make great clouds/effects in FF2, and the other produce no clouds and minimal effect. Not sure why, doesn't seem to be moisture content, but there are surely differences. I believe this may account for some users having difficulty. Not bad weed necessarily, just weed that for some reason doesn't do well in the FF2. I have some excellent weed right now that will not vape well in the FF2, so I don't try anymore with it.

Interesting bc I have had the ff2 for a month and it doesnt work very well. Once in a while I get a nice cloud , but usually nothing. It gets very hot , I stir it repack it and still nothing

 

[CroZure]

Interesting bc I have had the ff2 for a month and it doesnt work very well. Once in a while I get a nice cloud , but usually nothing. It gets very hot , I stir it repack it and still nothing

It takes a bit of technique. I don't take deep lung hits. Smooth, medium pulls works best for me. Check your mouthpiece. Mine got clogged after a short time when i first started using it. Also, pack it full.

 

[NoCo970]

Interesting bc I have had the ff2 for a month and it doesnt work very well. Once in a while I get a nice cloud , but usually nothing. It gets very hot , I stir it repack it and still nothing

Have you always used the same kind of buds or changed it up?

 

[malsanti]

Well I've changed my tune. I think FF2 is fucking awesome. Blows away the flowermate.

Personally, the most important thing is to pack the bowl tight. And you get solid 4 draws, if not more. Pack it tight. It is very very efficient from my experiences.

At the moment I am loving it.

Seriously, thing this is dope. Pack it tight. And you can take it around tone taking some nice tokes. Good shit. Keep it try and pack it tight. Its kinda what I was looking for. Stealth isn't amazing, but not bad either.

 

[djchexxx]

I wanted to chime in here and say my FF2 has been performing flawlessly. This has given me the best flavor and the vapor is cool. I think the FF2 is the best for solo use, not really sure it would perform great in a group setting. Personally I think the battery life is pretty decent, I like taking a hit or two and setting it down. I'd say the battery lasts 4-5 bowls on medium low and temp stepping to medium high.

I made my own mouthpiece screen and its a lot better than the stock one. I would always get some snacks in my mouth with the stock one. With the new mouthpiece it has improved airflow and no more snacks! I just used the stock mouthpiece screen as a template and cut around it on a 5/8in screen. You can cut out two mouthpiece screens from the one screen. I think that the mouthpiece screen is the biggest downfall in the FF2. I dont think it takes too much work to make a press and cut from a big piece of mesh screen. I actually just sold my camera yesterday so a crappy camera phone pic will have to do.

This vape needs some technique to use, beginners may have a problem learning to use it but here are some tips that I have had success with:

Make sure that the lid is seated properly, it's pretty obvious when it's not because the air flow is too open.
Use a fine grind. A two piece grinder works the best.
Stir the bowl every 2-3 hits.
Draw as slowly as possible, like I said above imagine that youre sipping a thick milkshake through a straw.
Mouthpiece mod for slightly improved air flow and no more snacks.
Temp step to get the most out of your bud.

Hope this helps some people out!

 

[jay87]

So I've been practicing using a water attachment with my FF2 and the potential is there but my results have been inconsistent. Generally I don't feel the need to use a water attachment at all with the FF2 as it usually just makes the taste worse, but with the advent of increased heating power incoming I want to get my water option up and running.

It is a bit harder for me to find the right draw using a water piece as the draw resistance is completely different, it's extremely light when using a water attachment.

I did manage to get an absolutely massive cloud when I took an extra long draw using the water attachment. This cloud was truly massive, easily rivaling large dabs taken from a nail.



I'm still getting better at using the water attachment but it is a bit finicky because there is no official water attachment tool.

So far I have 2 major issues using tubing to attach a water piece:

Issue 1: The tubing can pull the mouthpiece out of the FF2.

Unless you are extremely careful in handling the water piece and the tubing and the FF2 it is very easy to have your mouthpiece come loose or be pulled completely out while stuck in the tubing. This is difficult as it seems like you'd need 3 hands to hold the ff2, the tubing, and the water piece. Otherwise your only option is to use an extremely long piece of tubing which leads to my next issue.

Issue 2: The vapor path is extremely long.

The vapor path in the FF2 is already very wide and relatively long, but when you add tubing and a water piece on top the vapor path's length becomes ridiculous. I think this leads to more difficulty in learning the correct draw as well as it leads to less concentrated vapor as there's more room for air to get in the mix.


Even with those 2 issues and my ghetto-rigged setup I can still achieve massive clouds with the FF2 through water, even though the learning curve is even higher than using the FF2 dry.


Here's my FF2 Wishlist:

1. Water mouthpiece attachment
2. Glass concentrate pads
3. New Lid: no window, reduces heating chamber volume, possibly built-in stir tool

 

[djchexxx]

So I've been practicing using a water attachment with my FF2 and the potential is there but my results have been inconsistent. Generally I don't feel the need to use a water attachment at all with the FF2 as it usually just makes the taste worse, but with the advent of increased heating power incoming I want to get my water option up and running.

It is a bit harder for me to find the right draw using a water piece as the draw resistance is completely different, it's extremely light when using a water attachment.

I did manage to get an absolutely massive cloud when I took an extra long draw using the water attachment. This cloud was truly massive, easily rivaling large dabs taken from a nail.



I'm still getting better at using the water attachment but it is a bit finicky because there is no official water attachment tool.

So far I have 2 major issues using tubing to attach a water piece:

Issue 1: The tubing can pull the mouthpiece out of the FF2.

Unless you are extremely careful in handling the water piece and the tubing and the FF2 it is very easy to have your mouthpiece come loose or be pulled completely out while stuck in the tubing. This is difficult as it seems like you'd need 3 hands to hold the ff2, the tubing, and the water piece. Otherwise your only option is to use an extremely long piece of tubing which leads to my next issue.

Issue 2: The vapor path is extremely long.

The vapor path in the FF2 is already very wide and relatively long, but when you add tubing and a water piece on top the vapor path's length becomes ridiculous. I think this leads to more difficulty in learning the correct draw as well as it leads to less concentrated vapor as there's more room for air to get in the mix.


Even with those 2 issues and my ghetto-rigged setup I can still achieve massive clouds with the FF2 through water, even though the learning curve is even higher than using the FF2 dry.


Here's my FF2 Wishlist:

1. Water mouthpiece attachment
2. Glass concentrate pads
3. New Lid: no window, reduces heating chamber volume, possibly built-in stir tool

What size tubing are you using?

 

[smoking2long]

Found one at Tony's in Beaverton. They just got 6 or 7 of them in. It's charging now and I'm reading owners manual and downloading app.

Update on Portland purchase: There is a learning curve. The video's linked are very helpful. And the continued updates, for example new software to tweak the heating settings. I think this would be great. My previous Descent seemed easier to make clouds. But I'm still in training mode. The concentrate pads work great as I had read this and probably made me pull the trigger while stuck in Portland with a broke Hammer.

 

[jay87]

What size tubing are you using?

I'd guess about 1/2 inch ID but honestly I couldn't be sure.

I believe the Firefly 2 mouthpiece is about 3/4 inch at the wide end and the tubing can stretch as well.

 

[Reggie Watts]

3. New Lid: no window, reduces heating chamber volume, possibly built-in stir tool

That would be incredible.

 

[RangerDanger]

I have a question about this vape. The FF2 is highly renown for its flavor, but does that also correlate with how intense the high is? Reading around, it seems like the Mighty gets you higher, but the FF2 has much better flavor.

 

[djchexxx]

I have a question about this vape. The FF2 is highly renown for its flavor, but does that also correlate with how intense the high is? Reading around, it seems like the Mighty gets you higher, but the FF2 has much better flavor.

I'd say if people are saying that the Mighty gets you "higher" is because its a session vape and you have to vape all of the bud in one sitting usually. The FF2 you can stagger out your sessions and vape how ever much you want.

edit: I'm not sure on the exact amount but im pretty positive that the mighty bowl is a lot bigger than the FF2. The FF2 only holds about 0.1g max ime

 

[BabaRobDass]

This vape needs some technique to use, beginners may have a problem learning to use it but here are some tips that I have had success with:

Make sure that the lid is seated properly, it's pretty obvious when it's not because the air flow is too open.
Use a fine grind. A two piece grinder works the best.
Stir the bowl every 2-3 hits.
Draw as slowly as possible, like I said above imagine that youre sipping a thick milkshake through a straw.
Mouthpiece mod for slightly improved air flow and no more snacks.
Temp step to get the most out of your bud.

Glad you're having success.
You might find the following to help even more and I believe many on here will agree:

Coarse grind, not fine, and do not pack super tight.

You may find that this will improve your airflow a lot and at the same time no "snacks" in your mouth with the stock screen.

I've never gotten particles in my mouth with this thing.

I truly believe that the FF guys thought this thru pretty well and if you use it like manual suggests, you won't have to make screen or any other kind of mods.

Give it a whirl.

 

[NoCo970]

edit: I'm not sure on the exact amount but im pretty positive that the mighty bowl is a lot bigger than the FF2. The FF2 only holds about 0.1g max ime

The Mighty holds about 75% more or almost twice as much. Very good point too. I can get baked off such a small amount with the Firefly its amazingly effective, one of the best IMO.

 

[BabaRobDass]

I get medicated with my FF2. I pretty much 'just get high' regardless of the vape or the herb. Maybe this is what happens to old stoners.

I'm an oldish stoner too.

 

[mgmarque]

After a wait of a month and a business trip out of town I was united with my FF2 this weekend. Needless to say after reading here much was anticipated, but by today I am questioning the unit.

My green light blinks and turns solid green intermittently so I am not sure if the unit is heating up properly. The green light comes on and shines steady the rest of the time. (most) I do see the bowl heating up, but it is not the same intensity each time. Also even though I am pretty consistent with my draws of 10 seconds, slow and steady I can only get a ok cloud nothing close to the videos I have seen on the FF website and other reviews.

Also I have tried packing it loose but full, tighter but full, and a number of other ways, still unable to achieve the vapor clouds I get with my Arizer Air. So my question is does your green light always blink when you press the activation buttons? Is there a break in period for the unit? Is it possible thermostat in unit is not working properly? Likely going to call FF later today, but would love to hear if anyone else had trouble out of the box.

It just seems to be inconsistent.

 

[jim-bob]

You should try drawing for longer than 10 seconds, at 10s you're just starting to get the good stuff extracted IME. I've had the best luck running it all the way to the 30s timeout on every draw.

The green light only blinks when it's actively heating up, so if it's already at temp or close to temp you'll see fewer blinks if any.

 

[kcmochris]

Also even though I am pretty consistent with my draws of 10 seconds,

Need to go longer than 10 seconds.

So my question is does your green light always blink when you press the activation buttons?

I've noticed that sometimes my fingertips slip or do not activate the buttons unless I make sure to center my fingertips and hold them firmly in place. Keep an eye on the green light while pulling. If it flickers it means you've reset the heating cycle. Another thing, just like when you first activate the device and are warming up for your first hit -- I almost always give the heater about 5 seconds to fully reach desired temp and also consider the material warm-up, as well. The light (which means heater) will stay activated for 30 seconds before auto shut-off. If you're pre-heating for at least 5 seconds in the beginning, that leaves 25 seconds to continue pulling. I hope you know about the heating algorithm that FF2 utilizes--blast of heat at first, maintain temp, and then what feels like a little bit of boost towards the back-end to maintain temp, then auto shut-off.

There is a lot of info about the green light, heating coiling starting from cool (when the light blinks really slow for about 5 sec before going solid green; bowl glows BRIGHT orange) v.s. pre-heated (bowl starts glow up then almost fades dim--it's on), etc...Look back and comb through the forum pages--really important info to help appease your initial uneasiness. I felt similar until I really learned the device.