Discontinued The Extreme Vaporizer Thread Part II
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LOL, thanks vtac. But yea i like the purple days vape a lot too, id probably get it if i didnt buy the extreme. I really think arizer wouldnt lie about what material they use in the heater and such, but what do i know...Could be just wishful thinking...hahaha 
But i admit i was very excited when i wrote about the extreme so of course its gonna be chocolate coated. I didn't know anyone was going to take it that seriously, im not a very serious person
. I hope to try more vapes to see what you mean about hitting differently.
Well i say fuck it and lets stop splitting hairs and comparing apples to oranges. Right now im just about to whip out the extreme and throw some special herb in there see how it goes and when i talk about how it is ill be sure to say IMO. Peace
But i admit i was very excited when i wrote about the extreme so of course its gonna be chocolate coated. I didn't know anyone was going to take it that seriously, im not a very serious person
. I hope to try more vapes to see what you mean about hitting differently.Well i say fuck it and lets stop splitting hairs and comparing apples to oranges. Right now im just about to whip out the extreme and throw some special herb in there see how it goes and when i talk about how it is ill be sure to say IMO. Peace
Oh shit!!!
But yea i just put good herb in here and filled a bag, im already pretty good. The vapor from the bag is honest to gosh perfect, i don't know if its the grass but the vapor is just amazing, tastes great and slighty visible on exhale. Which IMO is a perfect vapor hit. My hearbs are all stil very green and i only filled it less than an eighth of a full bowl. Been running 230 C and it looks good! Not to mention vapor shooters are the shit. damn pretty
But yea i just put good herb in here and filled a bag, im already pretty good. The vapor from the bag is honest to gosh perfect, i don't know if its the grass but the vapor is just amazing, tastes great and slighty visible on exhale. Which IMO is a perfect vapor hit. My hearbs are all stil very green and i only filled it less than an eighth of a full bowl. Been running 230 C and it looks good! Not to mention vapor shooters are the shit. damn pretty
Cannabudz
apprentice shaman
I have to say it,Arizer R the Ducks Nut's, I'm nicely shitfaced now by the way thanx to the Extreme, However i've been having hassle's with it freaking out with the alarm and digi readout etc. so i emailed Steve, Nice bloke, and a new one is on it's way(no questions asked) with no cost to me Xpress, I still love the product and man the remote,sick shit. i stand by evrything iv'e said to dateYea i was gone last night, i woke up at 6 am still inebriated as hell and i smoked at like 12.
I did find one flaw with the extreme though... The base is not stable enough for a stoner, it wobbles. It blows up a full balloon at #3 fan speed in about 3 min, so its decently fast. Oh and always put it on a true surface, never on your couch, the intake air will get blocked and get hot. It vapes kief nicely too. One nice feature it needs is to be able to shut the fan off automatically when the balloon is full, but not a big deal. I really love the cyclone bowl and the vertical position of it, it feels natural if you know what i mean. You can see your herbs change color with the upright cyclone bowl and you can see the herbs spin around while pulling at the whip or blowing balloon, which is really cool and mixes up your herbs for you, i bet you don't even need to stir it if your always hitting hard or blowing the balloon because it mixes itself up.
I have to say balloon and bong is the best way to bake. They made the mouth piece for the balloon fit perfectly in a bong, the glass ridge on the end even seals it, glass on glass. They seriously did think of everything. But also bong and whip is awesome as well, gives you amzing vapor and if you want thicker vapor just use the short whip on the bong. Just take the mouthpiece of the whip and slide it in the female adaptor. The whip tubing fits perfectly in my female on my bong, just slides in there nice and tightly sealed. ANother thing i noticed is you can't pull too hard unless you want ur herbs up in your whip screen but just tap the whip end with the screen or blow hard into the whip before pulling it out and they will fall back in the bowl. Last night i would forget to tap or blow the whip before pullin it out of the bowl and set it on my table and all the herbs that stuck on the whips screen would fall out on the table making a big mess. But that really only happens if you pull really fast and hard, pulling slow and deep is better anyway. Ive had no burning at all, and vaped it on 250C most the time, the herbs are still greenish brown(perfect color). With my old box vape they would char and get really dark brown. With the duff from this i can revape and get good and cooked or i can make some food with it. I can;t wait to save enough for brownies or for my own leary biscuit recipe.
Ive thought of one way to improve the cyclone bowl. In the bowl where the screen sits there are ridges so the screen stays put, but this restricts air from flowing on the edges. Thats why stirring it helps. It isn't a big deal im just thinking of ways to improve it. It would do good just to make the hole bigger where the screen sits, as long as there is still a small ridge the screen will stay on. just an idea
I did find one flaw with the extreme though... The base is not stable enough for a stoner, it wobbles. It blows up a full balloon at #3 fan speed in about 3 min, so its decently fast. Oh and always put it on a true surface, never on your couch, the intake air will get blocked and get hot. It vapes kief nicely too. One nice feature it needs is to be able to shut the fan off automatically when the balloon is full, but not a big deal. I really love the cyclone bowl and the vertical position of it, it feels natural if you know what i mean. You can see your herbs change color with the upright cyclone bowl and you can see the herbs spin around while pulling at the whip or blowing balloon, which is really cool and mixes up your herbs for you, i bet you don't even need to stir it if your always hitting hard or blowing the balloon because it mixes itself up.
I have to say balloon and bong is the best way to bake. They made the mouth piece for the balloon fit perfectly in a bong, the glass ridge on the end even seals it, glass on glass. They seriously did think of everything. But also bong and whip is awesome as well, gives you amzing vapor and if you want thicker vapor just use the short whip on the bong. Just take the mouthpiece of the whip and slide it in the female adaptor. The whip tubing fits perfectly in my female on my bong, just slides in there nice and tightly sealed. ANother thing i noticed is you can't pull too hard unless you want ur herbs up in your whip screen but just tap the whip end with the screen or blow hard into the whip before pulling it out and they will fall back in the bowl. Last night i would forget to tap or blow the whip before pullin it out of the bowl and set it on my table and all the herbs that stuck on the whips screen would fall out on the table making a big mess. But that really only happens if you pull really fast and hard, pulling slow and deep is better anyway. Ive had no burning at all, and vaped it on 250C most the time, the herbs are still greenish brown(perfect color). With my old box vape they would char and get really dark brown. With the duff from this i can revape and get good and cooked or i can make some food with it. I can;t wait to save enough for brownies or for my own leary biscuit recipe.
Ive thought of one way to improve the cyclone bowl. In the bowl where the screen sits there are ridges so the screen stays put, but this restricts air from flowing on the edges. Thats why stirring it helps. It isn't a big deal im just thinking of ways to improve it. It would do good just to make the hole bigger where the screen sits, as long as there is still a small ridge the screen will stay on. just an idea
max
Out to lunch
Yep. I will confess that I can't let inaccurate (or even vague) posts go unchallenged. There is too much bad info out there, and like rumors, it just spreads and gets worse if left alone. I was reading on another forum last week and a Volcano owner posted that you can't get toxins from vapor because cannabis is toxin free.
He vapes at the 9 setting (226 C, 440 F) and wishes he could to 11 (about 460 F). I explained that high temps produce toxins and combustion (which he would get before he reached 460) produces more, and posted a study link. I don't know whether it made any impression or not. http://www.canorml.org/healthfacts/vaporizerstudy1.html
On the safe parts issue-
Glass can't be beat (except for condensation), but Teflon is, I'm convinced, safe in the temp range used with vapor (especially since it's above the bowl), as is stainless steel and aluminum. What some of us are wondering about, since Tom has pointed out that lead free electrical components are available but at a higher cost, is how many vape makers are using these ROHS compliant parts in the vapor path, and if they're not, is lead safe when used in components in this temp range?
Vaporizers aren't regulated. It's pretty much an underground industry especially since nobody believes that more than a tiny fraction of them are purchased for vaporizing legal herbs or tobacco. Most manufacturers aren't going to make their vapes any safer than buyers demand. Since a lot of us are vaping because it's healthier than smoking, it's up to us to let the manufacturers know that we care about the design and safety of their vapes. We should applaud Tom for using safe parts, and Steve of 7th Floor for designing his vapes so that they have a clean, heater cover only vapor path. As for Steve of arizer, we know he's sensitive to feedback. He's changed his Extreme design once already. So if you want to know if he's using lead free components, ask him. If enough people express concern, he may address the issue if he hasn't. He sure doesn't hesitate to point his finger at other vape makers on the safety issue. Some makers are going to say it doesn't matter because of the temps used, or components aren't in the vapor path (which you don't know unless you take it apart, like Tom did with the Vapezilla). All I know is that at least for now, it's up to us users to demand safe vaporizers.
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nonconformist
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Hey Deep Vaporist,
Just a reminder that the new Extremes are designed to run 190 - 250 c, unlike the older ones. I just got mine in June and it confused me to read all this 350c etc. until I read the blog about the new temp. setting. :/
Just a reminder that the new Extremes are designed to run 190 - 250 c, unlike the older ones. I just got mine in June and it confused me to read all this 350c etc. until I read the blog about the new temp. setting. :/
Thanks I got my vaporizer and I have to say at first I was dissapointed/confused probably because I was so accustomed to using the vapir 4.0.
At first I tried just using a small amount of herb (very good quality) and I couldn't get any vaporization. It looked like the fan was just blowing the small amount to the side and wasn't changing color at all. This amount of herb would have work in the vapir
So finally I just filled the thing (not to tightly). and cranked it to 240 or 245C and got ripped and the color didn't change much at all. Then I used the same weed a couple more times at 240 and 250 and got more vapor. But it still just looks like there is more in it. Its still pretty green.
My question is there anything wrong with my heater?
Is it possible to use a small amount (.1-.2g) vs packing the thing .5g Because most of the time I use this will be by myself and I don't want to always pack a whole thing (obviously I can hit the same bowl multi times but I am wondering if its possible to just do all of .2g at once.
Also is there a way to keep the screen from falling around for so much
Thanks
Ill write more later but Im late for work now
At first I tried just using a small amount of herb (very good quality) and I couldn't get any vaporization. It looked like the fan was just blowing the small amount to the side and wasn't changing color at all. This amount of herb would have work in the vapir
So finally I just filled the thing (not to tightly). and cranked it to 240 or 245C and got ripped and the color didn't change much at all. Then I used the same weed a couple more times at 240 and 250 and got more vapor. But it still just looks like there is more in it. Its still pretty green.
My question is there anything wrong with my heater?
Is it possible to use a small amount (.1-.2g) vs packing the thing .5g Because most of the time I use this will be by myself and I don't want to always pack a whole thing (obviously I can hit the same bowl multi times but I am wondering if its possible to just do all of .2g at once.
Also is there a way to keep the screen from falling around for so much
Thanks
Ill write more later but Im late for work now
I would not use a small amount if you want a lot of thick vapor.. It just won't happen. I think if a bwl is full it will get the herbs warmer because there is no room for it to cool. This is what i do: i grind up a certain amount maybe about .5 g, then i fill the bowl almost all the way full with the herbs (lower than the black insulator) then i put it on 250c. Once im done hitting i keep the herbs in the bowl and keep the bowl in the extreme turn it off and put it away. Then the next day or w/e i will get out the extreme plug it up and put on the whip and continue to hit off the same bwl and it will still have really thick vapors, good taste, and it still won't be done, so then i can keep hitting on it throughout the week until i don't get anymore vapor or till the color of the herbs turns a perfect greenish brown. I love the fact that there is no way i can burn my herbs w/e i do. Burning is the worst thing that could happen. Just can't use small amount or it won't get hot enough, do what i do and you won't complain, works great and the spent herb at the end is perfect in color, can't revape but you can cook with great results.... I am still high from a teaspoon of perfect spent herbs i ate on my version of a leary biscuit. Ironically i also like to smoke my spent herbs as well because they sometimes still have a greenish hue they still make for a great smoke and its like you get 2 for the price of 1, because your using the herb twice. But i don't smoke very often, that would defeat the purpose of the extreme.
Also i have still been wondering if anybody has had any successful attempts vaping kief or hash in the extreme? Once i get some more kief im gonna try putting the kief below on the heater's screen to get it hotter, someone commented about that.
I have concluded that the glass bowls are pretty strong, i dropped the cyclone bowl from about 3 feet onto my wood floor and it didn't break, where any slide ive ever owned would have broke indefinitely from the fall.
Also i have still been wondering if anybody has had any successful attempts vaping kief or hash in the extreme? Once i get some more kief im gonna try putting the kief below on the heater's screen to get it hotter, someone commented about that.
I have concluded that the glass bowls are pretty strong, i dropped the cyclone bowl from about 3 feet onto my wood floor and it didn't break, where any slide ive ever owned would have broke indefinitely from the fall.
vaporcloud
lurking kiwi
.5 of a gram is not much especially if your a daily user.
vaporcloud
lurking kiwi
120F to 210F. My vape has a digital temp gauge that thinks its a fucking radio tuner that can't decide what station to tune into 
I'm over digi readouts. bring on the P-D
No I don't own an Extreme
I'm over digi readouts. bring on the P-D No I don't own an Extreme
AM or FM? 
marcuss
above the clouds
nsxtacy....you know....after a while ppl just prefer to take a big hit than talk about temps!NSXTACY said:deep keep it on 250c if u want thick vapor, u wont burn it trust me.
Damn i just noticed theres more ppl that don't own an extreme posting on here than there are that do have an extreme.
Obviously new extreme user are two time baked...one for the plant ....one for the extreme itself!
Anyway you don't need to put hash down the screen...just leave it on a small amount of green and if your stuff is full melt
you'll see it bubbling 'till it will completly disappear!!Higher grade vapor!
marcuss
above the clouds
full melt come from a good ice extraction....obviously all depends on the quality of the material you put in the bag but maybe i'm lucky and i get some good full melt almost everytime!!
full melt could means no vegetal debrids....just pure resin...that full melt!
I do the next question for you...
Ehy Clear_Dome what does means your strange nik-name?
full melt could means no vegetal debrids....just pure resin...that full melt!
I do the next question for you...
Ehy Clear_Dome what does means your strange nik-name?
LOL at the begining ,I think bubbleman or skunkman (cant remember realy who) arrive with this idea that more the fullmelt hash is pure more it will produce big transparent bubble (73u to 92u head most of the time) so ...when your full melt bubble hash is pure as hell you can call it clear dome hash or full melt clear dome (FMCD)
that's what I mean :
image is better than words ....this image come from homegrown on fullmeltbubble.com this is not mine
AND THIS IS NOT BHO !!!OR ANY TYPE OF OIL THIS PURE RESIN HEADS
that's what I mean :
image is better than words ....this image come from homegrown on fullmeltbubble.com this is not mine
AND THIS IS NOT BHO !!!OR ANY TYPE OF OIL THIS PURE RESIN HEADS
Hmmm very intresting, can you get full melt from doing the alcohol trick. Heres a link: http://forum.grasscity.com/recreati...uides-homemade-hash-step-step-pictorials.html
I hope that makes full melt hash because it looks easy to do. Thanks
I hope that makes full melt hash because it looks easy to do. Thanks
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