Hey guys!
Been using my EQ for about a year now, and I love it. I am ready to upgrade to an all glass air path though. I have seen some pictures of people's set ups on their own EQs, but all the lingo about adapters and what not has me confused.
Could anyone point me in the right direction in simple terms? I am looking to completely eliminate any tubing. The Hydratubes from VapeXhale look fun. Any way to mount those to an EQ?
If it's impossible I will bite the bullet and save up some cash to get a Cloud.
Thanks!
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This is exactly what I want! Please help me build this exact setup!
http://glass.nuggetry.com/add/a1381628136/
Been using my EQ for about a year now, and I love it. I am ready to upgrade to an all glass air path though. I have seen some pictures of people's set ups on their own EQs, but all the lingo about adapters and what not has me confused.
Could anyone point me in the right direction in simple terms? I am looking to completely eliminate any tubing. The Hydratubes from VapeXhale look fun. Any way to mount those to an EQ?
If it's impossible I will bite the bullet and save up some cash to get a Cloud.
Thanks!
EDIT:
This is exactly what I want! Please help me build this exact setup!
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YetAnotherUsername
Youngster vaporist
The link is broken?
Re: elbows
I found a german vape store with some nic vaping glass. Also a few glass only options.
http://verdampftnochmal.de/products...er-adapter/glass-adapter-for-whip-188-mm.html
Re: elbows
I found a german vape store with some nic vaping glass. Also a few glass only options.
http://verdampftnochmal.de/products...er-adapter/glass-adapter-for-whip-188-mm.html
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SavageCore
Well-Known Member
Hey guys!
Been using my EQ for about a year now, and I love it. I am ready to upgrade to an all glass air path though. I have seen some pictures of people's set ups on their own EQs, but all the lingo about adapters and what not has me confused.
Could anyone point me in the right direction in simple terms? I am looking to completely eliminate any tubing. The Hydratubes from VapeXhale look fun. Any way to mount those to an EQ?
If it's impossible I will bite the bullet and save up some cash to get a Cloud.
Thanks!
EDIT:
This is exactly what I want! Please help me build this exact setup!
http://glass.nuggetry.com/add/a1381628136/
What you'll want is 18.8mm male to male adaptor which will fit between the cyclone bowl and swagger or whatever glass piece you want to attach.
So this is what I am looking for?
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/alt-18-mm-male-to-18-mm-male-90-adapter.html
Google didn't come up with anything 18.8mm
Also, what is the connection type on the bottom of the Hydratubes? If there are cheaper alternatives I would probably go for those, I just thought that VapeXhale had a patent on that design maybe.
Thanks!
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/alt-18-mm-male-to-18-mm-male-90-adapter.html
Google didn't come up with anything 18.8mm
Also, what is the connection type on the bottom of the Hydratubes? If there are cheaper alternatives I would probably go for those, I just thought that VapeXhale had a patent on that design maybe.
Thanks!
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SavageCore
Well-Known Member
Yes that is what I was thinking. Double check the hydratube is a 18.8 joint size.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
All HT's use the standard 18/19mm joint.
@MOTORHEAD, using a male/male adapter allows you to attach an HT, but you still have to work out how you want to do the bowl. On the Cloud for which the HT is designed, the bowl is a screen cylinder enclosure ("ELB") which fits inside the Cloud's male GonG joint. If you use an ELB/HT combination that way with the above male adapter which is set into the Cyclone, the ELB will be too far from the heater.
An alternative is to fit the ELB inside the bottom section of the male/male adapter that sets into the Cyclone. Extending the ELB about half way out of the adapter puts your herb at the same middle point in the Cyclone, so closer to the heater. This works even better using the @DDave female/female adapter in place of the Cyclone.
Or a simpler version of this with your stock accessories is to use the regular Cyclone/center screen and then put your Q elbow-screen into the bottom of the male adapter; the downside of this method is that you'll be doing more stirring and it's just not as easy to use overall as is the "Easy Load Bowl". But it does save a few bucks.
On that Nuggetry link you posted, I can't tell for sure how @mvapes (who is very creative) is doing his bowl. I suspect that just below where you see the Cyclone black protector, you can see a top cap section of an ELB protruding from the adapter into the bowl, as described above.
EDIT: It is also conceivable that a female/male adapter would work in place of the Cyclone. You would then put an ELB inside the male section. I encountered 2 problems trying this: First, my ALT f/m adapter didn't provide sufficient height for the HT to cleanly sit on it (the Q's joint is recessed below the casing bezel too far) and my ELB's would not fit inside the male section of this adapter even though it fits fine in the m/m adapter above (which reminds that the ID of these adapters vary). Arguably this is the best solution given fewest pieces and shortest path, and makes the Q works most naturally with the HT design. Finding an adapter that will work however is the fly in the ointment.
Hope that helps.
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vaporist30
Member
I also find that my ceramic heating element has cracks on top ( heating element cover is not cracked at all only small cracks on top of my ceramic heating element ). My question is if my extreme q vaporizer is safe to use with cracked ceramic heating element? What about lifetime warranty for ceramic heating element? Thank you very much for your help.
Greetings from Slovenia!
That helps a ton OBG!
I was thinking along the same lines as your edit there, with a few tweaks.
EQ heating element > 18mm male/18mm female adapter > ELB inside male > VapeXhale Glass Mouthpiece
My only concern is that the ELB wouldn't fit to plug the male end of the adapter. Do you think that this would be the case with the adapter I linked to below?
In terms of the Hydratube not clearing the bonnet of the EQ, I think that using just the Glass Mouthpiece will solve that issue. I also am hesitant to use water diffusion with vapor. Seems redundant. So this was an easy call.
Here is a link to the Male-Female adapter: http://www.ebay.com/itm/18mm-Male-t...333?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a81f9dbd
EDIT: Another Male/Female: http://aqualabtechnologies.com/glas...-90-18-mm-female-to-18-mm-male-adapter-2.html
Thanks for all the help! I hope to order the parts in the next few days and see what I come up with.
I was thinking along the same lines as your edit there, with a few tweaks.
EQ heating element > 18mm male/18mm female adapter > ELB inside male > VapeXhale Glass Mouthpiece
My only concern is that the ELB wouldn't fit to plug the male end of the adapter. Do you think that this would be the case with the adapter I linked to below?
In terms of the Hydratube not clearing the bonnet of the EQ, I think that using just the Glass Mouthpiece will solve that issue. I also am hesitant to use water diffusion with vapor. Seems redundant. So this was an easy call.
Here is a link to the Male-Female adapter: http://www.ebay.com/itm/18mm-Male-t...333?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58a81f9dbd
EDIT: Another Male/Female: http://aqualabtechnologies.com/glas...-90-18-mm-female-to-18-mm-male-adapter-2.html
Thanks for all the help! I hope to order the parts in the next few days and see what I come up with.
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
You're on the right track, just one challenge . . .
First, yes, by using a VapeXhale mouthpiece that should eliminate the bezel, er, bonnet problem. I was wondering about your using an HT w/o water, which of course works but is mighty expensive compared to just using a dry piece.
Second, yes, the challenge is fitting the ELB into the ID of the adapter. I have the ALT adapter you linked, and while the ELB fits into the male/male version, it does not fit into the male section of the linked male/female piece. I have an ALT 45 degree adapter which also doesn't fit, yet I suspect that there is a generally accepted tolerance range where the ID varies by material and blower; to meet spec it is only the OD that must be able to form a seal.
But I think I may have a solution, although if you are not in the U.S. ("bonnet"), this might be a hassle. The eBay link is for "oregonglassblower". He also sells his wares on iOffer, and @DDave here (of the DDave adapter fame) has contacted him re making his female/female adapter. The guy has a good rep. If you send him an ELB he could either confirm his piece will work or make you one that will, then return your ELB along with the adapter. My only other suggestions are to take an ELB to a LHS, or to locate a local blower.
Good luck and be sure to let us know how it goes.
EDIT: I thought of yet another configuration. More cash, not as clean, but what the hell fwiw . . . you could use a male/male adapter fit into a female/female adapter that sits on the Q heater. You wouldn't need the DDave "ledge" style adapter, any 18/19mm f/f should work as long as it doesn't have a handle on it like the ALT version does (too wide for the bonnet hole) - oregonglassblower's f/f should work, btw. You would put the ELB in the bottom male section of the m/m, so cap facing down. The m/m piece that I got from ALT does fit the ELB, it's even a tad loose. Personally, I would pursue the single female/male adapter solution above, but this could be a backup.
http://aqualabtechnologies.com/glas.../alt-18-mm-male-to-18-mm-male-90-adapter.html
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Newcastle
Stoned!
So do we have a new source for the 18/18 f/f or are we still gambling on ebay. I have been standing at the mail box the last two days and mine is not here yet. It was due the 7-13th.
I ordered mine from Ddaves information on his signature, I hope its the right one. The LHS has a DDave adapter for 38 bucks!
They might be the one laughing if I get the wrong one in the mail.
I ordered mine from Ddaves information on his signature, I hope its the right one. The LHS has a DDave adapter for 38 bucks! They might be the one laughing if I get the wrong one in the mail.billmcdougal
New Member
Hello, FC community...
I'm hoping someone can help me. A couple weeks ago, my extreme q fell off of a table, landing upside down. The elbow and cyclone were broken and very jammed, so i had to take the extreme q apart to get the cyclone bowl off of the heating cylinder thing.
Today, my cat knocked the thing over and broke the elbow. I can't get the elbow out, but also can't get the cyclone bowl off of the heating cylinder, even after taking the unit apart. It's just stuck really well.
I got some mouthpiece lube and dripped a little in the space between the bowl and cylinder, and it seeped maybe 2/3 down and then stops.
Maybe you guys have run in to similar problems and come up with some tips I haven't thought of?
I'm hoping someone can help me. A couple weeks ago, my extreme q fell off of a table, landing upside down. The elbow and cyclone were broken and very jammed, so i had to take the extreme q apart to get the cyclone bowl off of the heating cylinder thing.
Today, my cat knocked the thing over and broke the elbow. I can't get the elbow out, but also can't get the cyclone bowl off of the heating cylinder, even after taking the unit apart. It's just stuck really well.
I got some mouthpiece lube and dripped a little in the space between the bowl and cylinder, and it seeped maybe 2/3 down and then stops.
Maybe you guys have run in to similar problems and come up with some tips I haven't thought of?
That looks nice Justpassedu! How do you feel about the long whip fitting? I dunno know why but I'd still rather have a shorter, barbed fitting for peace of mind. Do the eq screens fit as good as in the stock elbow? By the way, the screens for the ddave work great, I could ALMOST dome one to fit without wrinkles,but ended up trimming them to about 1.125"
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Billmcdougal, never been in your situation,but this link may be of some help.
http://www.ilpi.com/glassblowing/frozenglass.html
http://www.ilpi.com/inorganic/glassware/glassblowing.html#stuck
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MOTORHEAD, the stock elbow measures about approx 12mm ID, lots of 18mm male adaptors will be 13mm, the screen can be made to fit but its not optimal,so I'd def look for a 12mm ID. Of course the hardest part of shopping for weed smoking accessories is getting someone to give you NUMBERS! Send some emails, and if they dont answer back they dont need your business
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CrappyHamper
New Member
Hello, I recently gave my Extreme Q to a cancer patient and bought another for myself and aside from feeling this unit doesnt perform nearly as well as the one I just had (dome screen packs are black on one half and green on the other and cyclone bowls have tasted horrible so far) I have an odd problem. The unit builds up a static charge, and shocks me, very frequently. The shock isnt too bothersome but it causes the display to shut off almost every time.. The vaporizer still works fine (except for the burnt hair and sulfur smell trying to get the whole load vaped) and the blue backlight remains on, but no LCDs or icons. The displays comes back on when I turn off and repower the vape, but this and the unfamiliar nasty smell are making me wish I had my old EQ back. How can I tell if this thing is fake? It looks identical to my old one and came with all the same stuff,but the top plastic cap house bulges around the outside where it meets the metal.. I took off the bottom plate to have a look and everything seems normal there.. My doorknob hasnt shocked me in weeks so its not me causing the static shock.
Has anyone ran into this problem, or have any idea what the cause could be?
The more I think about the smell, the more it bothers me. I am using a fresh silicone whip and cant get the burnt smell out of it.. I never went over 415F. It could be the herb my friend brought over, it did have some shake mixed in. Its like a really bad version of the smell you get when a load is done but you crank it up higher for a final hit and get that nasty taste, but really,really strong,like sulfur or burnt electronics are mixed in.. I'm afraid to experiment anymore after only using it this one time..
I had my old vape for a couple of years and I feel like I must be losing my mind to have ever loved an Extreme Q. Its such a weird feeling to know you made the right choice based on 2 years experience and still be so disappointed.. The screens dont even detent into place in the cyclone bowls like they did on my other Extreme.. (which could be why I'm getting that burnt hair taste?)
This is just how my luck goes and thats one of the reasons I vape in the first place (when I can)
Has anyone ran into this problem, or have any idea what the cause could be?
The more I think about the smell, the more it bothers me. I am using a fresh silicone whip and cant get the burnt smell out of it.. I never went over 415F. It could be the herb my friend brought over, it did have some shake mixed in. Its like a really bad version of the smell you get when a load is done but you crank it up higher for a final hit and get that nasty taste, but really,really strong,like sulfur or burnt electronics are mixed in.. I'm afraid to experiment anymore after only using it this one time..
I had my old vape for a couple of years and I feel like I must be losing my mind to have ever loved an Extreme Q. Its such a weird feeling to know you made the right choice based on 2 years experience and still be so disappointed.. The screens dont even detent into place in the cyclone bowls like they did on my other Extreme.. (which could be why I'm getting that burnt hair taste?)
This is just how my luck goes and thats one of the reasons I vape in the first place (when I can)
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
The warranty coverage on the Q is good. A friend's unit failed and his reseller (puffitup.com) sent him a new machine. So contact your reseller, which hopefully is authorized by Arizer. If he is not, IIRC you can contact Arizer with proof of purchase and serial number to see if the warranty will be honored.
1_gr8_underdog
Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
I think he's gone obg. But that is great advice. 
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
I think he's gone obg. But that is great advice.
I wondered about that. Does the strikethrough in the poster's username indicate a ban or the like?
1_gr8_underdog
Trapped in the Astral Planes Back from the dead
Yes I think so. But they only made one post? IDK. why they would have been banned/ suspended.
Yes. CrappyHamper was a duplicate account made by Zookeeper to evade a temporary ban. That's a stupid thing to do, since results in a permanent ban for both accounts.
Richard2806
New Member
Hi everyone, I've just joined this forum (stumbled across it while researching Extreme Q). Hopefully you guys can help me.
I really want to buy a good vape, and I think the Extreme Q is the best bang for buck. I love the idea of using bags, and I can't afford a Volcano
I was going to buy it from Ebay (I'm in Australia), but there seems to be lots of different versions, and I'm having trouble figuring out which is which, because they're listed as v5.0 and v4.0, with dates between 2013 and 2014, but they all seem to be the same. How many versions of this vape are there, and which is the most recent? How do you tell them apart in the Ebay auctions?
I'm also relatively new to vaping, I bought a Puffit vape last year which is ok, but I don't feel like I get a decent hit out of it, so I still prefer to smoke the herb rather than vape it. My Puffit sits on my desk fully loaded and I only really use it when I want a quick hit when I can't smoke.
I'd really like to move away from smoking alltogether though, because my lungs are starting to feel tight when I'm running and my wife hates the smoke smell anyway.
Is the Extreme Q a good vape for me?
I really want to buy a good vape, and I think the Extreme Q is the best bang for buck. I love the idea of using bags, and I can't afford a Volcano
I was going to buy it from Ebay (I'm in Australia), but there seems to be lots of different versions, and I'm having trouble figuring out which is which, because they're listed as v5.0 and v4.0, with dates between 2013 and 2014, but they all seem to be the same. How many versions of this vape are there, and which is the most recent? How do you tell them apart in the Ebay auctions?
I'm also relatively new to vaping, I bought a Puffit vape last year which is ok, but I don't feel like I get a decent hit out of it, so I still prefer to smoke the herb rather than vape it. My Puffit sits on my desk fully loaded and I only really use it when I want a quick hit when I can't smoke.
I'd really like to move away from smoking alltogether though, because my lungs are starting to feel tight when I'm running and my wife hates the smoke smell anyway.
Is the Extreme Q a good vape for me?
oldiebutgoodie
Apostle, Church of Vaporization
Hi everyone, I've just joined this forum (stumbled across it while researching Extreme Q). Hopefully you guys can help me.
I really want to buy a good vape, and I think the Extreme Q is the best bang for buck. I love the idea of using bags, and I can't afford a Volcano
I was going to buy it from Ebay (I'm in Australia), but there seems to be lots of different versions, and I'm having trouble figuring out which is which, because they're listed as v5.0 and v4.0, with dates between 2013 and 2014, but they all seem to be the same. How many versions of this vape are there, and which is the most recent? How do you tell them apart in the Ebay auctions?
I'm also relatively new to vaping, I bought a Puffit vape last year which is ok, but I don't feel like I get a decent hit out of it, so I still prefer to smoke the herb rather than vape it. My Puffit sits on my desk fully loaded and I only really use it when I want a quick hit when I can't smoke.
I'd really like to move away from smoking alltogether though, because my lungs are starting to feel tight when I'm running and my wife hates the smoke smell anyway.
Is the Extreme Q a good vape for me?
Is the Q a good vape for you? I'm afraid only you can evaluate that. My personal opinion is that it is very good value for the money. It's reliable and relatively easy to use. One of its strongest features is its versatility - it provides both bag and direct draw, and with the latter there are fairly inexpensive things you can do to improve that performance. It's probably not the absolute best bag vape in its price class (the Herbalaire blows stronger because it uses a pump), but the Q fan has been upgraded and it gets the job done well enough.
About the "versions", yes, that is a mess. Arizer just calls it the "Extreme Q". There have been improvements over the years but Arizer has not changed the nomenclature. The "4.0" is not used by Arizer. AFAIK that designation was given by someone in Arizer's retail channel as a way to differentiate the most recent improvements, and it became widely used. Arizer claims there are "27 upgrades" and that the unit was "redesigned and reengineered" - I find that a bit of a stretch. There were reliability improvements, but I've never been able to find them documented (most of this was probably in the circuit board). The only specific upgrades I can think of at the moment are the shell color being changed from chrome to black, the remote now changes temp in 1 degree increments rather than 5, there is a stronger fan, and the warranty was extended to 3 years. As far as there being a "5.0", that's new to me; the description on the Arizer site hasn't changed in quite a while.
Since you're in Australia, I will also pass this along . . . a couple years ago there was an inquiry here about units being sold in/from the Far East. I found the website, which was selling retail and in volume, but my Chinese is non-existent and I couldn't determine if the company was kosher. I concluded that either (a) the units were Chinese knock-offs or (b) a Chinese manufacturer had acquiring licensing from Arizer permitting it to build and market units in that region. The (b) alternative is at least plausible as this is a common way that foreign companies use to compete in the Far East markets, and of course (a) happens all the time. It's important who you buy from because if you have a warranty problem, your seller needs to be an "Arizer authorized dealer" to receive a warranty replacement (usually faulty units are just swapped out) or service from Arizer. IME unauthorized sellers shave $20-$30 from the purchase price, which is not a good deal if there is a warranty issue. FC has quite a few recommended dealers, some of whom offer FC discounts, found here:
http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/retailer-discussion-discounts.1802/
Good luck. And welcome to vaporizing - you will undoubtedly fuck combustion once you're into vaping.
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
That looks nice Justpassedu! How do you feel about the long whip fitting? I dunno know why but I'd still rather have a shorter, barbed fitting for peace of mind. Do the eq screens fit as good as in the stock elbow? By the way, the screens for the ddave work great, I could ALMOST dome one to fit without wrinkles,but ended up trimming them to about 1.125"
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Billmcdougal, never been in your situation,but this link may be of some help.
http://www.ilpi.com/glassblowing/frozenglass.html
http://www.ilpi.com/inorganic/glassware/glassblowing.html#stuck
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MOTORHEAD, the stock elbow measures about approx 12mm ID, lots of 18mm male adaptors will be 13mm, the screen can be made to fit but its not optimal,so I'd def look for a 12mm ID. Of course the hardest part of shopping for weed smoking accessories is getting someone to give you NUMBERS! Send some emails, and if they dont answer back they dont need your business
hey Zookeeper , sorry it took a lil to get back. I feel the wip is def the right size , i could cut it shorter but it hits well and i wanted some room for moving around on the couch with it. I think i cut it about same size as stock tubing. As for the elb i got the domed screens do not fit aswell but they fit , it just takes a tiny bit of beding the screen to get in and then bend back once inserted in there. I really like the elb though , its thick and way tougher than stock. Im glad the screens are working after several trys i just couldnt get one in there without cutting or bending the screen to the point were i couldnt get it to bend back once in so i did some cutting but they work well , i actually feel they work way better than stock as they seem thinner and get hotter to me causing me to not have to elbow pack at all. It could be in my head but they are working well and im glad they are for you also. hope all is well
Hey FC members! This is my first post on the forum. I have owned and operated and extreme q for about a month now. I first tried the bag but stopped that quickly because it was just too time consuming. Now I'm an elbows pack whip type of guy. I love it and all that but how many hits should I be getting off a full packed tightly elbow pack? I only get about 3-2 decent hits per pack I start at 375 ºf and go up to 400ºF . Is this the same for you guys? Btw its all stock mothing moded or added.
Thanks guys!!
Thanks guys!!
Justpassedu
Well-Known Member
welcome , if your only getting 2-3 hits that doesnt sound normal to me , i get about 15-20 with a half packed cyclone ddave mod adapter at about 200 deg celcius